Dalits - Real Issues & Discussion

02-19-2007, 11:43 AM

National Dalit meet by Congress 

All India Congress Committee (AICC) secretary Jai Kishan said that all the Dalit social organisations at block and district levels are willing to participate in the National Dalit Sammelan - "Dalit Chale Congress Ki Ore" to be held on Thursday.
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02-19-2007, 11:51 AM

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02-23-2007, 07:12 AM

News report on -
"Dalit Chale Congress Ki Ore"QUOTEAICC secretary and Dalit leader from Delhi Jai Kishan seems to be out of form. The conclave of Dalit workers organised by Kishan on Thursday was not a patch on his earlier efforts. The convention was attended by less than one-fourth of the prominent Congress leaders, whose presence was assured in the invite issued on the occasion. Congress president Sonia Gandhi did not show-up for the show. So did AICC general secretary and Dalit leader Mukul Wasnik, who was to preside over the function. The situation was saved by the presence of Chief Minister Sheila Dikshit and Union Minister Meira Kumar and Kishan's one-time patron Ajit Jogi, the former Chief Minister of Chhattisgarh. Incidentally, the invite had mentioned Jogi's name much after the other Congress leaders. It's another matter that when Jogi was general secretary at AICC he had promoted Kishan and facilitated visit of Congress president Sonia Gandhi to the Dalit rally held at Ramlila Maidan.

Congress is busy appeasing Muslims, they don't have time for Dalits.

03-06-2007, 09:05 PM

http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/mar/06sri.htm

QUOTESri Sri wants to bring Dalits and caste Hindus closer

Spiritual guru and founder of The Art of Living Foundation Sri Sri Ravi Shankar has initiated a process to bring about a reconciliation between the Dalits and caste Hindus.

As part of the initiative, The Art of Living is hosting a conference in Delhi where, for the first time, leaders from both communities will come together to reiterate their commitment towards ending social discrimination. Named 'Truth and Reconciliation', the conference will be held on March 9 at Pragati Maidan, New Delhi.

The conference will see the adoption of a seven-point action plan that aims at spreading the spirit of reconciliation to every corner of India. The action plan will focus on ensuring temple entry for Dalits, organising collective celebrations including community feasts, abolition of the practice of keeping separate utensils for Dalits, empowerment of women from economically weaker sections, providing educational facilities especially to weaker sections, providing spiritual and religious education to Dalit children and ensuring equality and justice for all.

Several organisations and individuals have come forward to support this initiative. They include the Akhil Bharatiya Bhumihar Brahman Samaj, National Valmiki Veer Dal, All India Vaish Federation, Sulabh International, Akhil Bharatiya Brahmin Mahasabha, Akhila Bharatiya Kshatriya Samaja Trust, Arya Vaish Sabha, BRP Bahujan Mahasangh, Karnataka Dalit Progressive Organisations Federation, Karnataka Dalit Sangarsh Samiti, Sarvadeshik Arya Pratinidhi Sabha, Akhil Bhartiya Gujjar Sanskriti Shodh Sansthan, Bandhua Mukti Morcha, Indian Justice Party, Parayar Peravai, Dalit Vidutalai Katchi, Vanniar Sangam, Akhil Bharatiya Koli Maharashtra, Bairwa Mahasabha and Guru Ravidas Committee. Over 5,000 people from at least 25 communities are likely to attend the conference.

Explaining his vision for a casteless India, Ravi Shankar said, "Historically, Dalits were on par with caste Hindus. We need to make the present generation aware of this truth. The only solution to the problem of social discrimination is to educate people and make them realise that caste by birth is not sanctioned by religion."

"The current generation of castes is not exposed to the enormous contribution of the Dalits to Hindu religious literature. The conference will go a long way in clearing many misunderstandings between the communities," he said.

Reiterating his call for an end to the practices that prevent Dalits from entering temples, he said, "Nobody has the right to bar people from entering the House of God."

A special exhibition is also being organised to bring to light many lesser known facts about the caste system in ancient India and showcase social and religious reforms that have taken place in the country. It will also highlight the contributions of the Dalit Maharishis in Hindu literature. Notable examples would be of two epics that are revered by all - the Mahabharata and the Ramayana, which were written by the Dalit Maharishis Vyas and Valmiki respectively.

03-06-2007, 09:20 PM

Rajesh: Sri Sri on Dalits
QUOTERD: A Dalit leader once told me that the caste system is the biggest scam in the history of mankind, that Brahminism is a way of oppressing people at the bottom.Sri Sri: There is nothing wrong with Brahminism. People who accuse Brahminism have not read Adi Shankara. He clearly says Jathi, Nethi, Kula, Gotra durakam. Caste, religionâall this you have to transcend; it is not what you are. Whatever caste a person is, the wise will always be respectedâVidhwan sarvatra pujith. Of course there has been oppression of Dalits [but] there has been oppression in many countries and many cultures. Christians had the Spanish Inquisition, [theyâve] been against science, [but] you canât say that Christianity is bad.

In the Brahminical text it is written that the sudhra is the feet, but it also says that the feet should be worshipped. No part of the body is considered low in the Vedic literature. Throwing [out] all Brahminical wisdom is foolishness.

I think we are blowing out of proportion the Dalit issues. Not all Brahmins have always suppressed Dalits. Even Ambedkarâs mentor was a Brahmin. Basavanna, Adi Shankara, Ramanujacharyaâ[all] worked for Dalits.

We brought out a book called The Heritage of Dalits. In that we said that many of the rishis are from lower castes. Krishna was from a backward class and he is worshipped.

On a recent trip to India, I've searched for this book "The Heritage of Dalits" but haven't had any luck.

03-16-2007, 10:42 PM

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http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/mar/16dalit.htm

QUOTESix policemen were injured in a clash with Dalits over installation of a statue of B R Ambedkar on a disputed plot of land in a village near Ballia, police said on Friday.

The trouble started on Thursday night when a police team went to Patnari village and tried to remove the Ambedkar statue erected by Dalits on a disputed piece of land there, they said.

They said the angry Dalits hurled stones at them, leaving six policemen injured, after police used batons to disperse the mob.

Two persons have been arrested in this connection and the injured admitted to a local hospital, police said adding, that the situation in the village was now under control.

03-29-2007, 08:53 PM

http://www.csw.org.uk/latestnews/article.php?id=609

QUOTECSW is proud to be hosting the launch of "India's hidden slavery: Caste, apartheid and exploitation in the world's largest democracy" 28/03/2007

Christian Solidarity Worldwide (CSW) is pleased to be hosting the launch event of a new documentary film by Michael Lawson. The film, produced in association with Christian Solidarity Worldwide (CSW) and the Dalit Freedom Network (DFN), exposes the plight of the 250 million-strong Dalit (formerly âuntouchableâ) and tribal communities, who form the lowest layer of the Indian caste system.

Speakers at the event include CSW President Jonathan Aitken, film producer Michael Lawson and DFN President Dr Joseph Dâsouza.

This hour-long documentary film, shot in villages and cities across India in late 2006 and early 2007, portrays extraordinary scenes of Dalit exploitation together with first-hand testimony of Dalits facing bonded and coerced labour and sexual exploitation. This is accompanied by expert analysis of the caste system from former Prime Minister, V.P. Singh, Dalit Freedom Network President, Dr Joseph Dâsouza, leading Indian political scientist, Professor Dr Kancha Ilaiah and British MPs with experiences of visiting Dalit communities.

Commenting on the launch, the filmâs producer, Michael Lawson, said: âSome of the individual stories I heard while making this film are heart-breaking. While I have included many testimonies of exploitation, these represent countless people in similar situations throughout India who are victims simply as a result of their birth. These stories must be heard if we are to uncover the slavery that is so rooted in the caste system of Indian society.â

CSWâs Chief Executive, Mervyn Thomas, added: âCSW is honoured to be involved in this powerful film. It provides a vivid reminder that the bonds of slavery still hold many people in their grip today. The exploitation of Dalits has been ignored in much of the talk about modern day slavery, and we hope this film will increase the profile of this community in the public consciousness.â

Dr Joseph Dâsouza, President of the Dalit Freedom Network, is currently visiting the UK and has met with MPs, Peers and religious leaders. He said: âAs Britain is commemorating the bi-centenary of the abolition of the slave trade, it is important to highlight that slavery is not over. We are here to raise the plight of the Dalit community, the main victims of modern forms of slavery in India as a result of their position in the hierarchical Indian caste system. Only by exposing their suffering to the world will we be able to enact change for these broken people.â

03-30-2007, 07:15 AM

QUOTEThis is accompanied by expert analysis of the caste system from former Prime Minister, V.P. Singh, Dalit Freedom Network President, Dr Joseph Dâsouza, leading Indian political scientist, Professor Dr Kancha Ilaiah and British MPs with experiences of visiting Dalit communities
Worst idiot became PM of India. He is still using India's tax money to get treatment in UK.

04-06-2007, 11:09 AM

QUOTE Tirupati lord goes to Dalit homes
Ashok Das
Tirupati, April 4, 2007
For year, Dalits have been treated as less than human, tolerated from a distance. Even God has been out of bounds. But they are waking up to their rights and others too seem to be realising their folly.

Many temples are now opening their doors to Dalit devotees. The presiding deity of the Jagannath temple in Puri comes out once a year so the "untouchables" can have a darshan of the Lord. Now the Tirumala Tirupati Devasthanam (TTD) has decided to carry the Lord to the Dalitwadas or Dalit villages. The temple deities will not only be carried to the villages, a team of priests and veda pundits from the main temple will perform the rituals of the Lord â including Srinivasa Kalyanam, the marriage of the Lord and his divine consort â in a Dalit home. Thereafter, the Lord and his servants will spend the night in the Dalit colony.

The revolutionary step is also a well-calculated move. "Dalits have been discriminated for years. The alienation was leading to religious conversions. We have to make them feel they are not second class citizens and bring them into the religious mainstream," said TTD chairman B Karunakar Reddy.

A few months ago, the TTD did a dry run at a Dalit village in Nellore district where a large number of conversions had taken place. The incident became a talking point among Dalits there. Spurred by the good response, the TTD decided to do the same across the state in a phased manner.

Calling the programme a "revolution of sorts", Reddy said it would be conducted every month. He also urged other Hindu organizations to follow suit to assimilate the Dalits and weaker sections into Hindu society. "Veda is for all. God is for all," he said.

This is great movement. Everyone should support these efforts.

04-06-2007, 04:03 PM

[Prior post removed - consequently edits done here - ADMIN]

Post 249 (Mudy):
QUOTETirupati lord goes to Dalit homesThis is very good news. Isn't it general practise with smaller temples' utsavams (sp?) already? At least, it is in some small villages: the local temple's deities go around all inhabited areas and everyone comes out to catch a glimpse of the auspicious vision.

A question about the HindustanTimes article pasted in #249. It says:
QUOTEto carry the Lord to the Dalitwadas or Dalit villages.This is the pseculars introducing new terminology. 'Dalit' itself is a very new term. I've never heard the term Dalitwada used. Has anyone?
I doubt the pseculars at HindustanTimes have ever seen a Harijan or talked to them (except when they want to make headlines about some controversial issue, of course). Like the psecular media cares about anyone.

QUOTEThe alienation was leading to religious conversions. We have to make them feel they are not second class citizens and bring them into the religious mainstreamThen there's some good that comes of the christoterrorism at least, even if it is only an unintended side-effect of the evangelicals: it's getting the rest of the Hindu populace to act faster to improve things for others, rather than the slower speed we might have adopted without the terrorist ideologies' presence. It's not that Hindus are complacent, but all that's worth doing is worth doing as fast as may be, and one certainly can't be slow when it comes to another person's (quality) of life.

But many Hindus and Hindu organisations started their attempts far earlier, even Kanchi Shankaracharya (although only his latest actions towards this were mentioned in the news). So it's a huge media whitewash when they like to paint all Hindu moves for improvement as due to 'the threat of conversions', because they've been steadily happening (but too slowly and not on a large enough scale) for a very very long time. But the media won't cover those events because there's not even a trace of a 'christian impetus' to insinuate in their cases.

Blow the Indian government, the media, the pseculars, christoislamics and communists. What ought to be done can't be done soon enough. I think Hindus should continue implementing our visions for improving our whole society regardless of how much the others stand in our way or whine about how Hinduism is 'evil' or 'communalist' or whatever. They'll always whine and lie and do their thing. We (Hindus) should continue to do ours. (<- The 'We' is awkward here as I haven't done anything useful towards this, yet.)
And whether the psecular media twists all such good events into 'Hindus are only doing this because of the conversions' or whatever shouldn't matter. There's the bigger issue of the welfare of fellow humans, who are moreover Hindus, at stake. Sincere motivations and actions - regardless of how much they are willfully misconstrued or presented - will nevertheless achieve the objective of ensuring happiness for all Hindus.

04-06-2007, 06:28 PM

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04-06-2007, 09:24 PM

Husky,
In Punjab, HP, Haryana, Kashmir there is no restriction on anyone, anyone can visit temple and perform puja. No one ever asked me my caste while performing puja in any temple. In South, it is very different. Reason may be lot. In North India, after so many invasion and occupation by barbaric people and barbaric religion, North Indians are able to keep or preserve what was left. In South India, they are able to preserve lot and they must have learnt lesson from their brothers in North. Now India or Hindus are facing attack from within. People who call themselves modern/Elite are biggest enemy of themselves. So opening of Temple and rituals to everyone is best way to defeat internal enemies of Hindus.

Husky · (This post was last modified: 04-07-2007, 03:28 AM by Husky.)

Post 252:
Thanks.

QUOTENo one ever asked me my caste while performing puja in any temple.In South Indian temples, visiting people don't perform the Pujas. We are just there to see and be blessed by the Gods. The temple priests peform the Pujas, and everyone partakes of the prasadam. Which in my case is a good thing, since I don't know the particular rites associated with each temple deity and so I wouldn't be very good at doing temple puja...
I will have to visit some North Indian temples some day. It is obviously a must-experience.

I just noticed two things in the following (from post 249) that I didn't notice before:
QUOTE(Mudy @ Apr 6 2007, 11:09 AM)<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE Tirupati lord goes to Dalit homes

TTD chairman B Karunakar Reddy.
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the TTD decided to do the same across the state in a phased manner.
[right][snapback]66560[/snapback][/right]</div>Isn't most of the TTD chairmanship appointed by the State controlled by the christo villain CM Y Samuel Reddy? Is this chairman 'Karunakar Reddy' a temple-appointed Hindu, or is he one of the christo infiltrators who are now in charge? (Even though he is a Reddy, there are nowadays even villains who still feel they have a right to bear this name - like the CM of AP. So the name is no longer an immediate indicator of Hinduness.)

I disapprove of any initiatives that are not taken by Hindus of the temple, because anti-Hindus have no well-meaning intentions in any Hindu affairs. If the Hindu leadership decided on the total processions, then I am glad. But if it was the infiltrators that are enforcing it, then one can be sure that there are ulterior motives at work and nothing they do is sincere or well-intended.

The second problem I have is with
QUOTE"Veda is for all. God is for all," he said.No, the Vedas are not for all.

It should not be restricted based on community background, but open to all Hindu aspirants to truth. But there are Mlechcha minds in all communities and it should be banned to such characters.

Hindus never believed in the very incredibly recent western notion that any education should be free for all. As someone else reminded me recently, all good things come with responsibility, and you should have earned the right for it. The more important it is, the more responsibility that goes with it is, and the more deserving the individual should be who receives it.

Any Hindu who is sincere, who has cultivated good (which are also required) practises like an affinity and respect for Truth and other creatures, and self-control - such a Hindu is automatically deserving of access to the Vedas. Indeed, no other creature could ever be able to keep the Knowledge from such a Person.

But Hindus do need to keep it closed to Mlechchas like the communists and infiltrators and anti-Hindu people (like the DMK party) who only want to enforce universal access to the Vedas because they see the act itself as breaking some 'brahminical stronghold' (or whatever) and don't really care about the Vedas otherwise.

In short: The Vedas are not for all. They are for all deserving Hindus, regardless of community background; but they're not for the villains and anti-Hindus from any community.

Husky · (This post was last modified: 04-07-2007, 03:44 AM by Husky.)

Forgot to ask the actual questions.
Mudy, concerning the news report of post 249, is it known that the matter is in fact a Hindu initiative? (Oh please, may it be.) It's just that with all the meddling the YSR regime is doing with Tirupathi Temple, I get suspicious.

In any case, may it all turn out right and bring great good fortune to all. It could not be otherwise, what with Venkatachalapathi going about the region and showing himself to all his devotees, and so too Sri Alamelumangataayaru (sorry, I am a phonetic speller). It will turn out wonderful, it will, it will.

04-08-2007, 10:28 AM

So the caste is a convertâs nightmare still! Let the prodigals return home
By Sandhya Jain

Over the decades, evangelicals have sought to gain access to the caste-based reservation benefits of Hindu depressed classes. Though they failed to get religion-based reservations in the Constituent Assembly, the first Mandal Commission listed some âMuslim castesâ among the OBCs, and this set off the Christian quest for SC/ST benefits for âDalit Christians.â Dalit Muslims have now joined this bandwagon.

It is now certain that UPA chairperson Sonia Gandhi is going to use the National Commission for Religious and Linguistic Minorities (NCRLM) to procure Scheduled Caste status for Christian and Muslim converts once elections to the Uttar Pradesh Assembly are over. The Congress president has been itching to snatch caste-based quotas from the Hindu community and hand them over to Muslims and Christians for the past two years, and according to available indications, Justice Ranganath Misra is likely to play ball and recommend the delinking of religion from caste while deciding Scheduled Caste status.

Official leaks suggest that the Commission has already prepared its report. This would have been submitted to the government on March 26, but the announcement of UP election schedule made this inadvisable. Accordingly, the Commission was âadvisedâ to seek an extension till May 15. The sources have revealed that the report is not unanimous on extending SC benefits to non-Indic converts, but this may not deter a regime hell-bent upon damaging Hindu society by promoting conversions.

Historically and civilizationally, caste, the Portuguese term for jati or gotra, has been the organising principle of Hindu society from ancient times, and is integral to Hindu society and in fact, synonymous with it. The varna system provided a framework which integrated the diverse jatis and resolved mutual conflicts on the matrix of an evolving dharma. Both caste and dharma emphasised heredity because ancestry (gotra) was imperative as the spirits of the ancestors had to be invoked in all social sacraments (samskara) to establish the individualâs worthiness to receive the sacrament.

Caste/jati is rooted in the tribal concept of gotra, and gotra is the organising principle of both tribal and caste Hindu social identity. That is why the 1950 government order fixing the Scheduled Caste category was extended only to Hindus; later amendments in 1956 and 1990 extended the facility to Sikhs and Buddhists as part of a common Indic tradition.

Over the decades, evangelicals have sought to gain access to the caste-based reservation benefits of Hindu depressed classes. Though they failed to get religion-based reservations in the Constituent Assembly, the first Mandal Commission listed some âMuslim castesâ among the OBCs, and this set off the Christian quest for SC/ST benefits for âDalit Christians.â Dalit Muslims have now joined this bandwagon. What is more, there is now mounting evidence that SC/ST reservations in educational institutions are being stealthily cornered by non-Hindus.

This raises some fundamental questions. First, should those who have renounced their Hindu identity get the benefits of a caste identity, which is the sine qua non of being Hindu? Second, should individuals who have renounced their Hindu identity be allowed to retain their caste names and thus mislead society?

Political parties with the brand equity of being Hindu-minded parties need to deliberate and articulate their views on the issue of caste within missionary religions. A constitutional challenge to the OBC Muslim quota would be a step in the right direction of creating both Hindu consciousness and a Hindu centric vote bank. Certainly, the sterile approach of fighting for a piece of the minority vote bank should be avoided at all costs.

It bears stressing that Christianity and Islam profess complete worldviews and seek to completely annihilate the old religious and cultural beliefs of converts. Both ruthlessly wiped out the traditional religion and culture in the lands where they spread. The Popeâs pride in Europeâs âChristian rootsâ cannot disguise the truth that the faith is a cruel imposition of just 2000 years, and spread through brutal genocides in North and South America, Australia, and Africa. Islam similarly triumphed by wiping out native communities (including Christian) in lands where it became dominant. Both religions have regularly launched movements against âhereticsâ and resisted the liberalisation of dogma. Islam has the tabligh movement to cleanse Muslim adherents of old practices of their former faith traditions, Christian clergy are engaged in battle with modern âsecularism.â

Caste has no place in the theology of Christianity or Islam. Hence in India, these faiths cannot be allowed to make a political expedient of caste and use it to undermine Hindu society from within. This is a political ruse to not merely permit so-called Dalit Christians and Dalit Muslims to garner reservation benefits, but actively augment the conversion agenda of both groups.

Both Islam and Christianity are transnational religions with enormous numerical, economic and political clout. The Vatican in Rome caters to the interests of Catholics, while the World Council of Churches in Geneva looks after Protestants. The 2.1 billion-strong Christian community constitutes one-third of the world population, and its clout extends beyond national boundaries, as does that of Islam. Adherents of these transnational faiths should not be permitted to cannibalize the legitimate dues of Hindu depressed classes.

Moreover, as Christianity sought converts on the plea that it did not discriminate between believers, a claim later echoed by Islam, both owe an explanation for the persisting discrimination against low-caste believers in their ranks. The Church in India must be asked to explain the creation of separate pews and even cremation grounds for Dalit Christians, and their poor social and economic conditions.

Indeed, the National Human Rights Commission should take suo moto notice of this state of affairs, as this is nothing but a gross and institutionalised violation of human rights and human dignity. The Supreme Court would also do well to consider if such religion-based reservations amount to altering the basic character of the Constitution. It may also like to investigate why most conversion activities in India are focused on strategic areas (like the north-east) and upon clusters which create pockets of minority concentration and inexorably force others out.

Such concentration makes sedition and partition possible. 1947 happened because of the Cold War strategic needs of the West. More recently, East Timor happened after conversions by Western missionaries delinked Indonesiaâs oil-rich portion. This has impoverished the native people of âindependentâ East Timor, while their oil wealth is being exploited by White fellow Christians of Australia! It would be interesting to examine if conversion to Christianity has benefitted any non-White people anywhere in the world.

The bottom-line is that if Christians and Muslims practice caste discrimination, the conversion process among them should be legally declared incomplete. They should be designated as non-Christians and non-Muslims and asked to complete the transformation to the new faith, or return to the Hindu fold. There can be no half-way house in this matter.

I suspect that the UPAâs real objective is backdoor political reservations for Dalit Christians by providing an opportunity to âstealâ the existing quota for Hindu Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes. Hindu society should rise to the occasion before it is too late.

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04-08-2007, 11:59 AM

QUOTE(Sandhya Jain Smile

It would be interesting to examine if conversion to Christianity has benefitted any non-White people anywhere in the world.This is such an important question. Wish recent converts all over the world would ask themselves this. But then, they're already sold on jeebus and his 'water-into-wine' miracle - oh wait, the Roman church just admitted that was all made up...
Anyway, Hindus should learn to ask this whenever some convert on jeebus' mission comes calling.

04-13-2007, 08:23 AM

Post 249 again:
http://www.crusadewatch.org/index.php?opti...d=463&Itemid=95
QUOTEFact Sheet: New TTD chairman has Christian leanings?
Tuesday, 29 August 2006
source: Great Andhra, August 28, 2006

The newly-appointed trust board chairman of Tirumala Tirupati Devasthanams Bhuman Karunakar Reddy is likely to trigger controversy in the coming days.

For, his family is learnt to have Christian leanings, at least going by the strong rumours in the political circles. Karunakar Reddy is also said to be distantly related to Chief Minister Dr Y S Rajasekhar Reddy, hence the Christian affiliations. One of the trusted lieutenants of the Chief Minister, Karunakar Reddy was made the chairman of Tirupati Urban Development Authority, before being elevated to the TTD Trust Board.

He also reportedly has dealings with the controversial Special Economic Zone coming up in Satyavedu constituency in Chittoor district. All said and done, Karunakar Reddy has become the first person hailing from Tirupathi to be with the coveted post of TTD chairmanBet this guy is a christian, only holding onto his Hindu name because the christo higher-ups wanted him to become TTD chairman.
So many Hindu Reddys who could have been TTD chairman. But of course nepotist christo YSR chose his relative - he doesn't want Hindus on the board, because he wants to destroy Tirupathi. YSR and his family should relinquish Hindu name of Reddy. They forfeited it upon conversion.

04-19-2007, 07:59 PM

A group of women farmer- filmmakers from a remote Dalit-dominated village of Andhra Pradesh has won the prestigious UGC-CEC National Award for "Best Educational Video Film"

04-27-2007, 03:59 AM

QUOTEDalit as Delhi Cong chief
The inroads made by BSP in the Capital may have come as a blessing in disguise for a few Dalit leaders of the Congress. An argument is being advanced that if the Delhi Congress would have a Dalit as the president, the Dalits could come back to the Congress. And whenever it's the question of making a Dalit president, Chaudhary Prem Singh emerges as the front-runner. But this time his monopoly over the Dalit mantle could be under threat. A counter argument says that since the Jatavs would anyway go with Mayawati, it would be worthwhile to have a non-Jatav Dalit as party president. Prem Singh is a Jatav and could lose out on this count. The first person to throw the towel in the ring is AICC secretary Jai Kishan. A valmiki, Jai Kishan has been consistent in claiming his servility to 10 Janpath.

Hahaha !!! now Congress had to find sub-sub caste among Dalit to attract votes. Let start another quota scheme for sub sub caste among dalits.

05-05-2007, 11:00 AM

QUOTE"Dr. Madhukar Ambekar" < drmnambekar@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
I am a Medical doctor. I am only for making more and more money. How can I become a "True Hindu"? I do not have qualifications to Lead or even to behave like one. My aim in life is to make money , money and money, Why should I bother for Hindu Cause.

On 5/4/07, Dr. Madhukar Ambekar <drmnambekar@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
My money is not meant for those who use it for "Hindu cause". I want to lead my life in Luxury not begging like other Hindus. I am the most mean (money )minded Hindu, if you have not realized until now.

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