US Elections 2008 - 4

10-28-2008, 09:01 AM

Another Senator who was promoting Share wealth, Obama's mission.
Sen. HUEY LONG - Redistrubution of wealth
Roosevelt and Huey Long

**acharya** · 10-28-2008, 10:04 AM

http://www.reuters.com/article/blogBurst/p...2YFzDsa7MJ1CblL

Former Bush speechwriter David Frum predicts McCain loss and GOP meltdown Powered by BlogBurst
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In an opinion piece that appeared in the Sunday edition of the Washington Post, David Frum opines that not only will Senator John McCain lose the presidential election but he will also drag the Republican Party down with him.

Who is David Frum and why would he predict such a gloomy outcome? David is a Neoconservative Canadian import who was a special assistant to President Bush, a Resident Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute (which sold us the wonderful Iraq war) and also one of Bushâs speechwriters. He coined the phrase âaxis of evilâ but when his wife, Danielle Crittenden, boasted of that in an email, Frum became a âformer speechwriterâ for reasons that are unclear. One thing is certain; Frum is still loyal to the cause.

Frum takes the McCain team to task for some strategic missteps that are obvious to anyone who is paying attention. His comments on McCainâs running mate are interesting:

Frum wrote:

So in August, McCain tried a bold new gambit: He would reach out to independents and women with an exciting and unexpected vice presidential choice.

That didn't work out so well either. Gov. Sarah Palin connected with neither independents nor women. She did, however, ignite the Republican base, which has come to support her passionately.

No surprise there, we have seen the ignition of âthe baseâ across our nation and right here on Digital Journal. Plenty of good Americans were praising Sarah before they really knew her position on actual issues. Frum mentions that the downside of picking Palin was that it alienated voters in the middle. If weâre to believe recent polls, more and more voters have serious reservations about Palin and her positions.

What I find most interesting about Frumâs piece is that it telegraphs the real concerns and agenda of the Grand Old Party (GOP). Letâs follow Frum and read between the lines.

McCain's awful campaign is having awful consequences down the ballot. I spoke a little while ago to a senior Republican House member. "There is not a safe Republican seat in the country," he warned. "I don't mean that we're going to lose all of them. But we could lose any of them.

Itâs too true. Representatives like Republican Michelle Bachman are in danger of losing their seats. Fortunately, no one is after (openly gay) Democrat Barney Frankâs seat. Sorry Barney.

In the Senate, things look, if possible, even worse.

The themes and messages that are galvanizing the crowds for Palin are bleeding Sens. John Sununu in New Hampshire, Gordon Smith in Oregon, Norm Coleman in Minnesota and Susan Collins in Maine. The Palin approach might have been expected to work better in more traditionally conservative states such as Virginia, North Carolina and Georgia, but they have not worked well enough to compensate for the weak Republican economic message at a moment of global financial crisis. Result: the certain loss of John Warner's Senate seat in Virginia, the probable loss of Elizabeth Dole's in North Carolina, an unexpectedly tough fight for Saxby Chambliss's in Georgia -- and an apparent GOP surrender in Colorado, where it looks as if the National Republican Senatorial Committee has already pulled its ads from the air.

Oops, now weâre getting somewhere, but letsâ read further.

Every available dollar that can be shifted to a senatorial campaign must be shifted to a senatorial campaign.â

âWe need a message change that frankly acknowledges that the Democrats are probably going to win the White House.

10-29-2008, 12:10 AM

QUOTE(Mudy @ Oct 27 2008, 11:31 PM)Another Senator who was promoting Share wealth, Obama's mission.
Sen. HUEY LONG - Redistrubution of wealth
RooseveltÂ and Huey Long 
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Haven't all US senators / presidents been sharing wealth with rouge nations for decades now?
$10B/month to Iraq, whose wealth is it and who's approved sharing it?
What's the harm in 'sharing' wealth in local communities? There's a saying, think it was Thoreau who said, "I don't mind taxes because with it I buy civilization".
Ponder over it, as there's some truth to it.

QUOTEI hope Barney Frank lose his election but MA liberals will send him back.
At this point, Congress and Senate's gone from blue to bluer. Hopey guy will rule at least for next 2 years without any problem whatsoever.

On Huey Long, watch the Sean Penn movie released last year(?) - "All King's Men". It was decent flick.

10-29-2008, 02:10 AM

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QUOTEWhat's the harm in 'sharing' wealth in local communities? There's a saying, think it was Thoreau who said, "I don't mind taxes because with it I buy civilization".
Wrong country. Best place is India or Sweden or East Europe.
If you see India, where sharing wealth is all around. It means big government, it means army of Babus, it means corruption, it means give bribe otherwise babus will not move pen, forget about file.
This discourages entrepreneurship, why we were attracted towards USA? It was capitalism. It means less government. I have lived in UK, Switzerland, Singapore, short duration in Malaysia.
Universal Health service is horrible. Nothing works. Too much government is bad. Re-distribution of wealth creates mediocre population.

~~Pandyan~~ · 10-29-2008, 07:44 AM

Palin certainly doesn't mind "sharing the wealth around".

QUOTEJust last month, in an interview with Philip Gourevitch of the New Yorker, Palin explained the windfall profits tax that she imposed on the oil industry in Alaska as a mechanism for ensuring that Alaskans âshare in the wealthâ generated by oil companies:

Â Â And Alaskaâweâre set up, unlike other states in the union, where itâs collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs. â¦ Itâs to maximize benefits for Alaskans, not an individual company, not some multinational somewhere, but for Alaskans.

In fact, Alaskaâs Clear and Equitable Share (ACES) program, which manages the redistribution of oil wealth in Alaska, brings in so much money that the state needs no income or sales tax. In addition, this year ACES will provide every Alaskan with a check for an estimated $3,200. 

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/27/pali...es-wealth/

Its obviously clear what Obama meant by "sharing wealth". Basically middle class is tired of tax breaks for the wealthiest few, its time to share "that wealth around". Like they did during Clinton era, when everything was more prosperous.

10-29-2008, 08:22 AM

QUOTEIts obviously clear what Obama meant by "sharing wealth". Basically middle class is tired of tax breaks for the wealthiest few, its time to share "that wealth around". Like they did during Clinton era, when everything was more prosperous. 
You have to listen his latest audio 2001. He is talking about Black theology. Take money from greedy white and distribute to Blacks. His agenda is Marxism.
From his book " I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists."

Clinton era brought 9/11, dot com bust, HMO, death of manufacturing industry (NAFTA). His era did long term damage.

When I moved to US, lot of stuff we used to get Made in USA. Very good quality. Electronics or clothes or crockery etc. they are still working and in very good shape. By 2000, rarely one can find anything made in USA and quality is horrible. Any electronics I have bought after 2000 , survived only 2-3 years. Difficult to get dress with right size. Shoes those are from Italy or Brazil are good but anything Made in China just horrible.
His tax plan will cost me extra $18K atleast but again one day he says 250K limit, next day 200K and yesterday it was 150K. By 20 jan 2009 it will be 40K.
Don't forget Bush tax cut will expire in 2010. So add that loss also.

10-29-2008, 09:31 AM

Halloween 

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~~Pandyan~~ · 10-29-2008, 09:42 AM

Personally, I don't care about Obama and his policies. I'm glad that he is one of the most liberal candidates to ever run for President. I'm glad that Democrats are close to getting full, filibuster proof majority of both House and Senate. This will make GOP extremely vulnerable, and would be a great thing to happen from Hindu point of view.

All these scumbag EJ crowd (consisting of Palin) will be more engaged in domestic issues than waging evanjihadism on Hindus. That's what matters more to me than supporting anti-Hindu Palin and senile wrinkly McCain who looks like he could croak any minute, giving this stupid dumb bimbo EJ the codes to nukes.

**shamu** · 10-29-2008, 11:15 AM

The risk is leftist liberals in India will be more active.

IMO they are more dangerous than EJs. Without the active support of this gang, EJs will be ineffective in India.

~~Pandyan~~ · 10-29-2008, 07:19 PM

QUOTE(shamu @ Oct 29 2008, 01:45 AM)The risk is leftist liberals in India will be more active.

IMO they are more dangerous than EJs. Without the active support of this gang, EJs will be ineffective in India.
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I don't see what connection Obama has to Indian leftists.

10-29-2008, 08:05 PM

QUOTE(Pandyan @ Oct 29 2008, 07:19 PM)<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(shamu @ Oct 29 2008, 01:45 AM)The risk is leftist liberals in India will be more active.

IMO they are more dangerous than EJs. Without the active support of this gang, EJs will be ineffective in India.
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I don't see what connection Obama has to Indian leftists.
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http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4052

10-29-2008, 08:31 PM

QUOTEThis discourages entrepreneurship, why we were attracted towards USA? It was capitalism. It means less government. 
Sounds nice in books or as slogans but only if it can be backed up with data. Size of govt grew the highest during past Dubya 8 years. Defecit grew highest during these Dubya 8 years and Reagan 8 years. Every statistical indicator is contrary to the GOP talking points. The bailout of Wall St was the final slap oon face of the failed ideology.
There's absolutely no denying of the facts here.
economic charts
U.S. Stock Market Performance in Different Presidencies
U.S. Consumer Price Inflation Under Different Presidencies
U.S. Employment Growth During Different Presidencies
Dollar Performance During Different U.S. Presidencies
U.S. GDP Growth Under Different Presidencies

Capitalism/Marxism or this-thatism are all good in theory. We have seen the excess of each when it comes to practical world.
A balanced approach is need for any administration in any country.

QUOTEClinton era brought 9/11, dot com bust, HMO, death of manufacturing industry (NAFTA). His era did long term damage.Â 
9/11 happened on Bush watch when clearly a month before Bush had daily breifings on this and he and Rice overlooked it - refer to the 911 commission records on this. If you want to turn the clock to Clinton era, why not go back a bit more and see who actually funded these people in 80s. On HMOs - they have been in existence prior to '92. Death of manufacturing - happening since 80s, walk into South Carolina and check as to when their textile industry died.

A lot of 90s has to do with globalization which Clinton (or any president) could not have prevented as it was a global phenomenon.

Pandyan,
QUOTE I don't see what connection Obama has to Indian leftists.
I'd qualify it with Indian Leftists in US. They are very active in college campus and have been instrumental in running India/Indians down. They will be emboldended with a Obama-Pelosi-Reid administration.
Might not be a bad to wake up the sleeping majority who's been pretty complacent about their deeds/activities lately. Some here will get what I'm saying.

10-29-2008, 08:33 PM

QUOTEI don't see what connection Obama has to Indian leftists. 
Pandyan,
Wake up.

Black Theology is Marxism promoted by church, as they have done in Latin America and now same they are using in India.
Whether it is North East or Orrisa or AP, they are promoting Marx and revolution against state. Recent Orissa is good example.
In India, state is promoting them, either they are brain dead or they are part of whole plan.

10-29-2008, 08:34 PM

Obama Accepting Untraceable DonationsQUOTESen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign is allowing donors to use largely untraceable prepaid credit cards that could potentially be used to evade limits on how much an individual is legally allowed to give or to mask a contributor's identity, campaign officials confirmed.
Faced with a huge influx of donations over the Internet, the campaign has also chosen not to use basic security measures to prevent potentially illegal or anonymous contributions from flowing into its accounts, aides acknowledged. Instead, the campaign is scrutinizing its books for improper donations after the money has been deposited.

The Obama organization said its extensive review has ensured that the campaign has refunded any improper contributions, and noted that Federal Election Commission rules do not require front-end screening of donations.

.......
When asked whether the campaign takes steps to verify whether a donor's name matches the name on the credit card used to make a payment, Obama's campaign replied in an e-mail: "Name-matching is not a standard check conducted or made available in the credit card processing industry. We believe Visa and MasterCard do not even have the ability to do this.

"Instead, the campaign does a rigorous comprehensive analysis of online contributions on the back end of the transaction to determine whether a contribution is legitimate."
It means they are disabling security check.

10-29-2008, 08:35 PM

QUOTE(Mudy @ Oct 29 2008, 11:03 AM)<div class='quotetop'>QUOTEI don't see what connection Obama has to Indian leftists. 
Pandyan,
Wake up.

Black Theology is Marxism promoted by church, as they have done in Latin America and now same they are using in India.
Whether it is North East or Orrisa or AP, they are promoting Marx and revolution against state. Recent Orissa is good example.
In India, state is promoting them, either they are brain dead or they are part of whole plan.
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Agreed, what has Obama got to do with what's happening in India today? Can we blame Obama or Bush for our own failures?

10-29-2008, 08:42 PM

I blame Indian Government who are brain dead or part of whole revolution.
India need another round of Independence or revolution to kick out commies, maoist and Marxist from India.

10-30-2008, 09:49 AM

10-30-2008, 08:12 PM

Wonkette's (a funny/satrical blog) found a wealth-spreader communist too....on GOP Ticket!!
QUOTESARAH THE MARXIST: She takes the oil companiesâ hard-earned money and âredistributesâ it to shiftless Alaskans! â[W]eâre set up, unlike other states in the union, where itâs collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs,â she told the elite socialist rag The New Yorker. That means every Alaskan gets $3,269 a year from the State, just for living and breathing on that lost and frigid tundra, and that is also why she is Americaâs most popular governor. Because she is a Communist

**acharya** · 10-31-2008, 12:19 AM

Indian astrologers predict sweeping Obama win
30 Oct, 2008, 0948 hrs IST, AGENCIES

MUMBAI: Indian astrologers are predicting Barack Obama will win the US presidential election by a comfortable margin, but one warned of potentiall
y life-threatening times ahead for the Democratic candidate.

"Obama is 100 percent in Leo and Leos are not only born leaders but they have a special charm all of their own," well-known Indian astrologer Bejan Daruwalla told AFP.

"(Republican candidate) John McCain has good points but he's nowhere in the picture. He's miles away. He has been outshadowed by the Leo. He might have been very good in his time but this is not the right time."

Fellow Mumbai astrologer Raj Kumar Sharma also forecast a clear Obama victory in the November 4 vote -- mirroring the latest opinion poll data that suggests the 47-year-old Illinois senator is out in front.

"The circumstances and conjunction of stars are very clearly indicating that John McCain is going to lose this election and Barack Obama is going to win, at least by 10 percent," he said.

But he said he was worried about the weak sun moving into Obama's chart from April 2010 to January 2011.

"The month from April 5, 2010 to May 16, 2010 is very dangerous for him. I really pray that everything should be all right," he said.

Asked to elaborate, he added: "I see danger for his life from April 5, 2010. I see the chances of 25 percent of survival. So he should be very careful about his security, about the people working for him."

To counteract the weak sun, Obama should wear a ruby, he said.

Indian Obama fans sent him a small statue of the revered Hindu monkey god Hanuman earlier this year, after hearing he carries a good luck monkey charm with him at all times. Hanuman is said to protect from evil spirits and curses.

Daruwalla, who writes a column in the Times of India newspaper, said the United States was in transition after being ruled by comfort-loving Cancer -- sign of the outgoing President George W. Bush -- and Gemini the communicator.

"America is now ready for a change because America is entering into the age of Aquarius, which means liberal thinking and tolerance. Therefore I think that Obama is the right person in the right place and at the right time," he said.

"He is very liberal in his thinking, clear in his vision and actions. That makes him charming and attractive."

Obama's other traits are typical of someone whose moon sign in Indian or vedic astrology is Taurus -- strength, determination and durability, he said.

Sharma, whose work covers the gamut from financial predictions to travel and marriage prospects, agreed that both Obama and McCain were influenced by Leo, making them strong, dynamic characters with good leadership skills.

But the key influence of luck-giving Jupiter was currently more favourable to Obama and strengthened by its combination with powerful planets Saturn, Venus and Mars in his chart, he added.

Election day is also a more auspicious moon period for Obama, Sharma said, as the Earth's satellite moves from Sagittarius to Saturn's own house of Capricorn, indicating he could become very powerful.

Jupiter has been rising in Obama's horoscope since December 1999 and would remain in the ascendancy until September 2015, making his rise unstoppable, the astrologer said.

On the other hand, the planet's influence on 72-year-old Vietnam War veteran McCain was now on the wane, after strongly helping his rise to public prominence from the mid-1970s to the turn of the century, he said.

That was "the most profitable, most beneficial and most powerful period of his life" but since then he has been "in decline," Sharma said.

**shamu** · 10-31-2008, 12:35 AM

QUOTE(acharya @ Oct 31 2008, 12:19 AM)Indian astrologers predict sweeping Obama win
30 Oct, 2008, 0948 hrs IST, AGENCIES

MUMBAI: Indian astrologers are predicting Barack Obama will win the US presidential election by a comfortable margin, but one warned of potentiall
y life-threatening times ahead for the Democratic candidate.

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