<!--QuoteBegin-thayilv+Dec 28 2008, 07:36 PM-->QUOTE(thayilv @ Dec 28 2008, 07:36 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->The Bangladeshi forums on the internet openly call for swallowing up Assam and West Bengal.
This mughalstan is also part of their ambitions in the subcontinent.
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<!--QuoteBegin-thayilv+Dec 29 2008, 05:06 AM-->QUOTE(thayilv @ Dec 29 2008, 05:06 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->The Bangladeshi forums on the internet openly call for swallowing up Assam and West Bengal.
This mughalstan is also part of their ambitions in the subcontinent.
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Bangladeshi muslims want to go back to 1730
when orissa, bengal, parts of assam and parts of bihar were under the bengal nawab
Thats why the 2% muslims in Orissa still intiate riots
The bangladeshi army openly has parades where they want to unfurl their flag in fort william, Kolkata
As per Pandyan's request.....
Link
<b>Muslims offered sheets in the name of Kasab!</b>
http://www.hindujagruti.org/news/6045.html
<b>'Jihad' by Anti-Indian Muslims in Bharat! </b>
Shevgaon (Maharashtra): A news regarding, Muslims offering sheets in the name of Pakistani terrorist Kasab at the 'tomb' of Fakir Sonemiya during the Fakir Sonemiya Yatra celebrations at Shevgao, had appeared in a local news paper. (O, Hindus! The Muslims are supporting the terrorists openly now. File cases against these treacherous Muslims and the Congress Government for having pampered them to get rude! â Editor) Slogans like 'Pakistan Zindabad' and 'Islam Zindabad' were given during the procession at night. (O, Hindus! Let there be total boycott at the initial stage on the Muslims for having confidence in the enemy country! â Editor)
See detail news
http://www.hindujagruti.org/news/6045.html
One of the common warnings of the seculars is what if IMs get radicalised
if they are not appeased
The evidence shows that maximum ISI modules in Hyderabad, UP, Assam,
kerala all under secular congress commie rule
Next they claim that even a 100 radicalised IMs can cause havoc
been there, done that
Already 300 kerala jihadists have been killed in JK
The field data suggests that IMs are secular only when islamism is not appeased
prime exhibit being Gujurat
SIMI, has lakhs of members already
Some 'patriotic' comments from Hyderabadi IMs
http://www.nowpublic.com/the_history_of_ma...a_pradesh_india
Syed Anwer Razvi (not verified)
at 13:16 on December 29th, 2008
The Surrender Ceremony
The surrender ceremony was fixed at 4 p.m.
General Chaudhuri spoke gravely: âI have been ordered by Lt. General Maharaj Rajendrasinhji, General Officer Commanding-in-Chief, Southern Command to take the surrender of your armyâ.
âYou have itâ. âYou understand that this surrender is unconditionalâ. âYes, I understandâ.
Chaudhuri smiled and shook hands with Edroos. Then he opened his cigarette case and offered him a cigarette. Edroos proffered a lighter. Chaudhuri's team joined them.
The party drove to the residence of India's Agent General. A jubilant crowd cheered the victorious general there. He waved in return and then sat down to discuss the details with Munshi, Edroos and others.
The above captions unfolded to me about what actually happened than ,during the fall of Deccan..............................A traitor , A Ghaddaar Edroos gave away Deccan to the indians.
WHAT A SHAME !
I hope someday i find the grave of this Ghaddaar and i will open it and burn it as hindus does.
More patriotic article from JNU muslim Colachel
http://www.kashmirwatch.com/showexclusives...news=value1news
Part-53
Kashmir Watch, Jan 2
By Dr. Abdul Ruff Colachal
Long live Kashmir freedom movement!
The 38-year-old Omar Abdullah will head the next government after National Conference (NC) and Congress struck a power sharing deal in New Delhi, Tuesday. Omar Abdullah met Congress chairperson, Sonia Gandhi at 10-Janpath, New Delhi on Tuesday morning and held consultations with her and other Congress leaders on the formation of the coalition government in the State. Later, talking to media persons, Omar said âIt was decided that I will head the coalition government of which Congress will be a part of." Among others who attended the meeting include former Chief Minister Ghulam Nabi Azad, Union Water Resources minister and J&K Congress Chief Saifuddin Soz, AICC general Secretary in charge Prithviraj Chavan and party General Secretary Rahul Gandhi. India is keen the Hindu interests dominated the new regime in Srinagar. Soz said it was a great opportunity for Omar to provide good governance to the state. Sources said, that the two sides have decided to sit together and formulate a Common Minimum Program, which will guide the coalition government
Omar, the NC president, who won elections from Ganderbal, said that he would take oath as the new chief minister only after a meeting with Governor N N Vohra. Omar made it clear that Congress will be a part of the government and would not merely give outside support to the coalition. Omar Abdullah will take oath as chief minister before January 10 while rest of his cabinet would be sworn in after 10th of Muharram.
I
In the run up to his innings as chief minister, Omar Abdullah, said that he had impressed upon the leaders in New Delhi the urgent need to âreduce the pressure of the gunâ on the people in Kashmir. Omar made a strong pitch for peace between India and Pakistan, citing dialogue as the only option, and offered the services of his party to improve relations between the two nuclear-armed neighbors. Omar said India and Pakistan should avoid taking threatening postures as the nature of relations between the two countries had a direct bearing on the people of Jammu and Kashmir. He urged the two countries not to let "bitterness" creep into their ties which directly affect the people of the state.
Since 1947 when the Indian separatists �cum-terrorists managed independence from Britain, many governments both at the centre and in provinces assumed office and no one made any categorical statement about their resolve to take care of Muslims cause and fulfill their genuine interests. Rather they always made appoint only to appease the Hindus and foreign countries in their statements and actions.
But now look at what the only Muslim chief minister of India, at least wound be, Omar Farooq has said in his very first statement after winning the polls to appease his masters in Delhi. Omar said that it is his commitment to ensure that some Pundits reach the Upper house. Omar said exactly what he has been asked by Indian Hindu leaders in New Delhi whom he med after the polls. Right at the beginning, Omar has shown his Hindu color he did not utter a word about the plight of Kashmiris nor did he bother about the secret graveyards found in Kashmir. He does not want to remember that it was the same Kashmir people who had come to the streets to protest against Indian Hindu designs in Kashmir. He thanked the Kashmiris as a matter of âlast but not the leastâ style.
Omerâs heart bleeds for Hindus while Muslims voted him to power. As a groomed Indian secularist, he now thinks mainly about the Pundits as if he belongs to that community even though he knows they played havoc in the lives of Muslim Kashmir recently. He said that one of the top most priorities would be to ensure return of Kashmiri Pandits to the valley but not restoring the human dignity of Kashmiri Muslims. . It would take time. âI would be visiting various Kashmiri Pundits camps talk to them about it," he said. One cannot expect any thing tangible form this die-hard pro-India who now take every opportunity to use the freedom leaders as bargain chip with India to advance his and his familyâ welfare.
Indian secularism is meant only for Muslims who are expected to obey Hindus and take care only abut their concerns. One cannot in fact find fault with him or other âwinnersâ; if Omer thinks he has become the top person in Jammu Kashmir because of India and its strategists and it has got noting to do with Kashmiris. They have been given opportunity to vote with military protection and by rendering other services including unaccounted cash form India.
II
In his maiden speech after being nominated as Chief Minister of the State, Omar Abdullah on Jan 01 hinted at completing the 6-years-term in office and asked arch rivals India and Pakistan to eschew bitterness for the benefit of peace in the strife-torn Jammu and Kashmir. âThe government that will be formed will not be Omar Abdullahâs or his father Farooq Abdullahâs government. It will be peoplesâ government,â he said. Stating that the road ahead will be tough, Omar said he will need peoplesâ support to face the challenges. âPeople should guide me in case they find any of my decision not going in right direction,â he said. Only the coming days will show how far he is honest.
The chief minister designate promised that during his six-yearâs rule he will provide better road connectivity, clean drinking water and uninterrupted electricity to the people. He also assured that he will provide employment to the unemployed youth.
Earlier, talking to reporters at his Gupkar residence, Omar said the two parties�NC-Congress has yet to discuss the modalities about portfolios. On asked when he would take oath as Chief Minister, he said there are some constitutional bindings but he might assume charge before January 10.
Of course now the main task before the new leadership, then, seems to be making money for depositing in the Swiss and other important global banks because it is only cash and courage , money and muscle that make people vote. It seems he would use BJP and PDP against one another to stay in power comfortably. One ahs see what Omer is going to do in office. Talking about development in Kashmir he said that both Jammu and the Valley claimed that it was the other region that was benefited, so the new government had decided to set up a commission of inquiry under a Supreme Court judge to find out the truth. And he is afraid of saying that Kashmir would be developed as it deserves a lot more.
III
New Delhiâs strategists as well as JK governor would testify now that the freedom aspirations of Kashmiris have not died down in Kashmir with the polls. Protests erupted in the old city against the air strikes being carried out by the Israeli forces in the Palestinian territory since Saturday. According to reports, dozens of people, mainly youth, took to streets at Rajouri Kadal and Gojwara and staged demonstrations. Chanting pro-Islam, pro-Palestine and anti-Israel slogans the protesters marched through the lanes and by lanes of the old city before assembling at Rajouri Kadal and Gojwara Chowk where they staged protests for more than two hours. The protesters later dispersed peacefully.
When Kashmiris have taken up the Palestine cause, amid their own struggle, how can India think they would forget about their own cause?
Post-Script
I am not the ideologue of Kashmir freedom movement, as some Indian agents have perhaps pointed out in a way as to make me get out of the pro-freedom platform of defenseless Kashmiris; I am just a supporter of the freedom movement no matter who leads it and guides the Kashmiris people. I am not even a campaigner for the freedom leaders, because I some times say things they donât consider correct. But I know they are on the right path.
Freedom leaders have done their best to reach out to people to dissuade them from voting for an Indian government in Sri Nagar. Senior freedom leader Syed Geelani was unwell during the poll season and was hospitalized. Indian government constantly declared curfews and detained the leaders. Only Indians and pro- Indians had free life in Jammu Kashmir and all others, especially the pro-freedom leaders were persecuted , rather terrorized by Indian forces occupying there.
Freedom leaders indeed have done their level best to deliver but India has more resources and power to deicide the activities in Jammu Kashmir by keeping them under check and arrest. India now no more thinks by holding a poll in Jammu Kashmir and âappointingâ a government it can put an end to Kashmir problem. They have trued all these tactics for decades and indeed tired of them.
Geelani and other leaders could have aligned with either PDP or ND and won the seats hands down and formed the ministry. But they stood for certain principles that only the freedom minded people alone can rightly comprehend. Geelani clearly said they donât want to participate in the Polls conducted by occupying India by keeping its terror forces in Jammu Kashmir. They struck to their guns. Winning elections and enjoying fruits of power sharing is not their motto. Geelani even said after the independence let Kashmiris contest and win. Freedom leaders spun invaders, killers and terrorists form India.
Kashmirs have lost over a lakh precious lives for regaining sovereignty from India and they have valued the worth of those lives and did not participate in Indian poll. If they had participated they would have made a mockery of freedom struggle itself. Their hearts bled for the Kashmiris: for those who live now and those who died for their homeland.
As an outlooker from across the Kashmir border, I must sincerely complement the efforts of freedom leaders to switch their mode of struggle from armed to peaceful and the results, therefore, would also be positive in the long run and the freedom loving Kashmiris would be the sole beneficiaries of their tireless efforts.
I look forward to Omarâs positive role in carrying forward the freedom torch and obtain sovereignty back from New Delhi. His diplomacy would be greatly tested now on. If he succeeds, Kashmiris would be safe and if fails he would also fail the electorate who stood in long queues to elect him as his leader.
The freedom leaders have done what the genuine people fighting for an honest cause could have done. No, their sacrifice will not go waste. Sacrifice of freedom leaders and supporters and those who laid their lives in fight for Kashmir and for kashmiriyat.
Possibly India has realized its folly in keeping Jammu Kashmir under its custody.
Long live Kashmir freedom movement.
(....continued>>)
The author is Delhi based Research Scholar in International Studies and can be reached at
abdulruff_jnu@yahoo.com
Related Links
*A Free Kashmir: Random Thoughts
Part 1-52 [Mar 2008 to Dec 2008]
*Interview: "I Defend Muslims" Dr. Abdul Ruff Colachal , 27 Dec 2008
01-05-2009, 08:24 AM
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<!--QuoteBegin-Pandyan+Jan 5 2009, 08:01 AM-->QUOTE(Pandyan @ Jan 5 2009, 08:01 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Gsub offtopic request - In the Islam thread can you post source for kerala jihadis dying in Kashmir. Thanks.
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http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx...eID=7389&SKIN=K
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>LeT recruited over 300 Kerala youth, admits Faizal</b>
27/10/2008 13:55:30Â Daily Pioneer | Kannur/Kochi
The extent of entrenchment of dreaded Pakistan-based terror gang Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) in Kerala seemed to be of horrifying magnitude with arrested LeT recruiter Faizal admitting to the police on Monday that the outfit had recruited at least 300 persons from various parts of the State. The Kannur police on Monday took into custody two persons, said to be in charge of recruitment under the direct instructions from LeT.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Goes on at link.
http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx...eID=7909&SKIN=C
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>ISI-Lashkar operations with CPM help</b>
29/12/2008 08:48:06Â www.organiser.org
With Kerala yet to recover from the shock of <b>Terror Export of 300-odd Malayali Muslim youth to Kashmir and PoK and their training at Lashkar and Hizbul camps</b>, comes the chilling report of ISI-LeT links with LTTE and their possible next targetsâKerala and Tamil Nadu.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Goes on at link.
http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HkPage.aspx...EID=7503&SKIN=B
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Nomenclature terrorism</b>
09/11/2008 15:12:42Â Courtesy -Shri Rajeev Srinivasans Blog - http://rajeev2007.wordpress.com/
Rajeev Srinivasan on the fuss about âHindu terroristsâ
[...]
Newspaper reports suggest that at least 96 young men from Kerala, who were given military training by SIMI, are at large. 16 of them are in Kashmir, the others in Bangalore or Kerala, according to Intelligence Bureau reports. Apparently there are special instructions in Malayalam in SIMI jungle camps held all over the country, for the poor dears are not so proficient in Urdu/Arabic.
These young men were dispatched to Kashmir with simple instructions: kill Indian soldiers and facilitate infiltration by the Pakistanis. Terrorism has now become just a job. So much so that so-called âspiritual advisersâ (âpaymasterâ may be a more accurate designation) are out there recruiting known gangsters, converting them and sending them off to Kashmir. A particular gang of Christist criminals in Cochin has apparently supplied several converts who made the trek to Kashmir: including one Verghese aka Yasin who took a bullet in his head from the Indian Army and had to be identified from his fingerprints.
All this is ironic: Kerala has long been a supplier of manpower and womanpower â first it was the clerks and petty shopkeepers all over India, as well as a lot of soldiers; then it has been nurses, next construction labor and professionals for the Persian Gulf and America, and most recently, Christist padres and nuns for the conversion industry and as gastarbeiter for the shrinking seminaries of Europe. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Other related links mentioning this sort of thing (but not focussed on it):
http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx...eID=7365&SKIN=C
http://www.haindavakeralam.com/hkpage.aspx...eID=7401&SKIN=K
http://www.zeenews.com/states/2009-01-04...7news.html
Group clash in Langlem, 4 women hurt as police burst tear gas
Imphal, Jan 04: Four women were injured as police burst tear gas shells to quell two clashing communities at Langdum area in Imphal East district of Manipur on Sunday.
Sources said thousands of gun-toting members of a minority community attempted to attack Langdum village, dominated by the majority Meitei community, after the body of a boy of the minority community was found at a place near Langdum some days ago.
As the Meiteis prepared to retaliate, a police force went to the spot, about 10 km south of here, and burst tear gas shells.
Four women were injured in police action.
Police were investigating whether the Muslim boy was killed by one of his relatives, as one of his uncles was missing.
Heavy police and security have been deployed at Langdum to prevent any further flare-up.
Bureau Report
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Muslims are only 7% of Manipur
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Group clash in Langlem, 4 women hurt as police burst tear gas
Imphal, Jan 04: Four women were injured as police burst tear gas shells to quell two clashing communities at Langdum area in Imphal East district of Manipur on Sunday.
Sources said thousands of gun-toting members of a minority community attempted to attack Langdum village, dominated by the majority Meitei community, after the body of a boy of the minority community was found at a place near Langdum some days ago.
As the Meiteis prepared to retaliate, a police force went to the spot, about 10 km south of here, and burst tear gas shells.
Four women were injured in police action.
Police were investigating whether the Muslim boy was killed by one of his relatives, as one of his uncles was missing.
Heavy police and security have been deployed at Langdum to prevent any further flare-up.
Bureau Report
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Muslims are only 7% of Manipur
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http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/01/tho...ims-attack.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Thousands of gun-toting Muslims attack Manipuri Hindus</b>
http://www.zeenews.com/states/2009-01-04...7news.html
Imphal, Jan 04: Four women were injured as police burst tear gas shells to quell two clashing communities at Langdum area in Imphal East district of Manipur on Sunday.
Sources said thousands of gun-toting members of a minority [Muslim] community attempted to attack Langdum village, dominated by the majority Meitei [Hindu] community, after the body of a boy of the minority community was found at a place near Langdum some days ago.
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01-10-2009, 11:12 AM
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1. http://haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?P...923&SKIN=C
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Aswini - You are Immortal - Video (Malayalam)
01/01/2009 06:39:30Â
Dedicated to <b>Ashwini Kumar Kannur Jilla Boudhik Pramukh of Rashtreeya Swayamsevak Sangh , who was brutally murdered by Jihadi NDF Terrorists in Kannur</b>
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2. About this again:
<!--QuoteBegin-G.Subramaniam+Jan 6 2009, 10:50 PM-->QUOTE(G.Subramaniam @ Jan 6 2009, 10:50 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--> http://www.zeenews.com/states/2009-01-04...7news.html
Group clash in Langlem, 4 women hurt as police burst tear gas
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Sources said thousands of gun-toting members of a minority community attempted to attack Langdum village, dominated by the majority Meitei community, after the body of a boy of the minority community was found at a place near Langdum some days ago.
<b>As the Meiteis prepared to retaliate, a police force went to the spot, about 10 km south of here, and burst tear gas shells.</b>
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Police were investigating whether the Muslim boy was killed by one of his relatives, as one of his uncles was missing.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Yes, very likely.
http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/01/tho...ims-attack.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->"mohammedanism is in danger", "let's go kill the hindus" -- all because some mohammedan child is killed probably by his own relatives.
there was a similar incident a few years ago in the tribal belt in central india. two christist tribal children were killed. the ELM immediately blamed the rss and the bjp for it and made a huge fuss. then it turned out the children's (christist) uncle had killed them. the ELM quietly buried the story.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->In case anyone else is as slow as I was in working this abbrev out : ELM=English Language Media.
I am seeing real cowardice of the Ummah
5 mil jews are screwing the Ummah in Gaza and while millions of muslims demonstrate and riot in kafir countries ( including israeli muslims )
None of them despite outnumbering the jews 200:1 has the balls to go head to head against israel
01-10-2009, 04:16 PM
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^ The lesson in it: The moment you stand up to muslims, they initially try to fight. When they know you're serious, they run away. The Jews have learnt that it pays to be serious, with their lives, their future. They know the price of existence, as also the price of doing nothing.
http://haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?P...976&SKIN=B
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Hindu Temples Ransacked and Desecrated in West Bengal</b>
09/01/2009 10:44:35Â http://hindusamhati.blogspot.com/2009/01/h...desecrated.html
<b>Resurgent Hindu Community in Howrah Resists Valiantly</b>
The religious persecution on the Hindu community has been unabated in the Muslim majority nation of Bangladesh, but the same gruesome incidents are happening in West Bengal state of India as well.
In Chak Kashi area of Chengail in Howrah district, a major communal flareup was created by an Islamic activist group. In the Jute Mill area, during the Muslim Muharram procession on 8 January afternoon, these activists attacked Hindu religious places and residential areas, leading to utter chaos and disorder.
The virulent and sinister activist mob desecrated the revered Hindu deities in Shani temple and Hanuman temple. <b>The Hindu community resisted courageously and the Muslim zealots were countered and beaten black and blue.</b>
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<b>Over ten Hindu-owned shops and homes were set on fire by the religious Islamists.</b> The District in charge (DM) is Khalil Ahmed, a Muslim. The situation is tense and curfew has been clampled in the area, and a huge police contingent including <b>Rapid Action Force, a special Indian elite police group, has been deployed in the area to terrorize local Hindus so that they can not protest or publicize this inhumane event.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Oh look. The loser police deployed to terrorise Hindus again. Because they did it so well in Jammu.
India has no Seven Samurai. It only has mercenaries, "psecular soldiers". They get paid with the Jizya collected from Hindus. It's called blood money.
hvk.org
On the Offensive
Author: Monalisa Gogoi
Publication: The Sunday Indian
Date: January 4, 2009
URL: http://www.thesundayindian.com/04012009/st...d=6360&pageno=1
Assam is a case study of illegal Bangladeshi migrants on the warpath, natural when the border with an overpopulated country isn't sealed, says TSI''s Pranab Bora
Sixty-five-year-old Lakhiram Bodo describes every moment of the past three months in the relief camp as 'harrowing'. Despite belonging to the Bodo community - the earliest inhabitants of Assam, and the supposed 'bhumiputras', he and the entire Bodo population of Dalgaon Batabari were thrown out of their homes by Bangladeshi immigrants in a matter of minutes. Today, their existence at the relief camp has been brought down to this: a tin shed, four kgs of rice, 1.1 kg of dal, 250 ml mustard oil and some salt, "per person, per week".
"Fifty years ago, there were hardly a hundred such families here; today there are thousands of families. When they attacked us after the first skirmishes in August this year, we couldn't resist them; our village was burnt and they killed our peopleâ¦" Bodo's voice trails off.
Dalgaon Batabari - near Rowta in lower Assam - is one of many villages that has borne the wrath of the immigrant Bangladeshi, albeit with citizenship papers available everywhere, thanks to the corrupt babus and an apathetic administration that thrives on the Bangladeshi votebank. On August 14, the Bodos brought out a procession opposing the Assam Bandh called by the Muslim Students' Union of Assam (MUSA) that was protesting against the "harassment of genuine Indian Muslims who were being thrown out of upper Assam districts such as Dibrugarh", as 23-year-old Badrul Islam, MUSA president, says. The total immigrant Muslim population in lower Assam is about seven million. At the time of independence, the Muslim population in Assam stood at 1.9 million. Now, the average growth rate of Muslims in Assam stands at 18 per cent; that of Hindus at 14. Six of Assam's 27 districts now have a Muslim majority population. While in 13 districts, the growth rate of Muslims is less than 30, in seven it is less than 40. In Karbi Anglong, it is as high as 73.6 with the population going from 10,000 to 18,000 in 10 years.
Statements from two state Governors - SK Sinha and Ajai Singh - along with the Gauhati High Court in recent times now buttress what organisations like All Assam Students' Union (AASU), that led the six-year-long anti-foreigners' agitation beginning 1979, have said all along: that the state has been inundated by Bangladeshis who endangered the very existence of local communities. It was the detection of hundreds of Bangladeshis in the voters' rolls in 1979 at Mangaldoi that sparked AASU's anti-foreigners agitation.
Yet, the modus operandi of political groups who speak for the illegal migrant remains the same. MUSA's Islam accepts that census reports show dangerous population growths in these districts, where other indigenous communities showed normal growth. Yet, every time suspected illegal migrants moving to the upper Assam are handed over to the police, the MUSA protests against the "inhuman treatment meted out to them". The August 14 bandh call was one such protest.
The October 30 serial bomb blasts in Assam - the state is now home to a number of Islamic militant groups - that killed 90 and injured hundreds was a culmination of events. The blasts were claimed by the militant group Islamic Security Force (Indian Mujahideen). While the Congress-led government continues to blame the blasts on militant groups like United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA) and the National Democratic Front of Bodoland (NDFB), till date nothing has come out of its so-called investigation.
Sitting in his small "Office of the Muslim Marriage, Divorce, Registration and Kazi" at Dalgaon, Qazi Md Afzal Hussain, an Assamese Muslim says: "During my father's time, this was a place of forests where tigers have killed people." Now, Dalgaon is dominated by immigrants, where Muslims have wiped out tribal belts. As for empowering the Bangladeshi migrant woman - most of them illiterate and some bearing up to 20 children, Hussain says he hasn't heard of the new nikahnamah released by the All India Muslim Women Personal Law Board.
The results are evident. As opposed to the sparsely populated Bodo relief camp at Rowta; the displaced immigrants lodged at camps at Dalgaon lives in squalor, the camps overpacked with unthinkable living conditions. Bashid Ali, one of the inmates, claims their village was attacked by Bodo and Bengali Hindu people, an indication that the Hindu and Muslim Bangladeshis are now at loggerheads in what, all said and done, is a war for land. The rate at which the immigrant Muslim rampages through the districts of Assam is something that local communities have found impossible to resist. At the receiving end is not just the Bodos, Karbis, Assamese or Bengalis but also the original Assamese Muslim (known as goria), a community that has broken away from the so-called Muslim 'minority'. "Expect a Bangladeshi as Chief Minister within the next 20 years in this state," says Nekibur Zaman, Gauhati High Court lawyer, an Assamese Muslim and founder of an organisation 'Khilonjia Muslim Unnayan Parishad.' "They may call themselves minorities but there are 20 Bangladeshi MLAs even now in the state Assembly."
For the "mainstream" politician, all of it is to be shrouded in skewed, convenient statistics. Maulana Fazlul Karim Qasimi, a goria Muslim and the convenor of the Assam United Democratic Front (AUDF), agrees that there is a conspiracy: "For many political parties, keeping the immigrant population an uneducated, proliferating Bangladeshi lot helps their interests, as children born today will vote after 18 years." Its victims are both the immigrants and local communities. The toll in the August-October clashes stood at over 50. Add to that the 855 students killed during the Assam agitation, followed by the thousands who have been killed during the insurgency that was an offshoot of the agitation. And as people here point out - this is what is happening to India in its northeast, thanks to the our calloys and self-thanking politicians.
Chidambaram asks Assamese to accept BD muslims
http://www.rediff.com/news/2009/jan/11inef...chidambaram.htm
Chidambaram said porous borders and illegal immigration were causing "unexpected demographic changes and a lot of angst" among the native population in Assam and West Bengal.
"I am in sympathy with that contention that demographies are changing. But some parts of the history cannot be retraced. So, one has to learn to accept it. Therefore, we will have to swallow something, accept some pain and then make sure that it doesn't continue for the next five or ten years," he said.
<b>RE the cowardice of muslims</b>
Very true, I have seen it myself. They are useless cowards who just know certain things:
1. whine, because the world soes not know what islam is, and continues to treat your whines as genuine, no matter that they really are 99% made up and exaggerated
2. dharmics have forgotten Dharma, and so they will allow crowds to build up; take advantage of that
3. participate in crowd riots/killings, the booty is real and the consequences are not. The psecs, NGOs, ummah, CAIR, waqf or whatever other f will take care negating any consequences.
4. once you are in low numbers, remember the proffit, and disappear
Danielpipes.org
Europe's Stark Options
by Daniel Pipes
National Interest
March-April 2007
http://www.danielpipes.org/article/4323
[Title and text differ from that published, "Eurabian Nights," which can be read at http://www.nationalinterest.org/PrinterFri...y.aspx?id=13710]
Europe's long-term relations with its burgeoning Muslim minority, the continent's most critical issue, will follow one of three paths: harmonious integration, the expulsion of Muslims, or an Islamic takeover. Which of these scenarios will most likely play out?
Europe's future has vast importance not just for its residents. During a half-millennium, 1450-1950, this 7 percent of the world's landmass drove world history; its creativity and vigor invented modernity. The region may have already lost that critical position sixty years ago, but it remains vitally important in economic, political, and intellectual terms. Which direction it goes in, therefore, has huge implications for the rest of humanity, and especially for its daughter countries, such as the United States, which historically have looked to Europe as a source of ideas, people, and goods.
Here is an assessment about the likelihood of each scenario.
I. Muslims Rule
The late Oriana Fallaci observed that, with the passage of time, "Europe becomes more and more a province of Islam, a colony of Islam." The historian Bat Ye'or has dubbed this colony "Eurabia." Walter Laqueur predicts in his forthcoming Last Days of Europe that Europe as we know it is bound to change. Mark Steyn, in America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It, goes further and argues that much of the Western world "will not survive the twenty-first century, and much of it will effectively disappear within our lifetimes, including many if not most European countries." Three factors â faith, demography, and a sense of heritage â argue for Europe being Islamized.
Faith: An extreme secularism predominates in Europe, especially among its elites, to the point that believing Christians (such as George W. Bush) are seen as mentally unbalanced and unfit for public office. In 2005, Rocco Buttiglione, a distinguished Italian politician and Catholic believer, was denied a position as Italy's European Union commissioner because of his views on such issues as homosexuality. Entrenched secularism also means empty churches: in London, researchers estimate, more Muslims attend mosques on Friday than do Christians churches on Sunday, although the city is home to roughly 7 times more born-Christians than born-Muslims. As Christianity fades, Islam beckons; Prince Charles exemplifies the fascination of many Europeans with Islam. Many conversions could be in Europe's future, for as the saying is ascribed to G.K. Chesterton, "When men stop believing in God they don't believe in nothing; they believe in anything."
Europe's secularism shapes its discourse in ways quite unfamiliar to Americans. Hugh Fitzgerald, formerly vice president of JihadWatch.org, illustrates one dimension of this difference:
The most memorable utterances of American presidents have almost always included recognizable Biblical phrases. ⦠This source of rhetorical strength was on display this past February [2003] when the Columbia shuttle blew up. Had it not been an American but a French shuttle that had blown up, and were Jacques Chirac having to give such a speech, he might well have used the fact that there were seven astronauts, and evoked an image of the Pleiades first named in pagan antiquity. The American President, at a solemn national ceremony that began and ended with Biblical Hebrew, did things differently. He took his text from Isaiah 40:26, which led to a seamless transition from mingled wonder and awe at the heavenly hosts brought forth by the Creator, to consolation for the earthly loss of the crew.
The buoyant faith of Muslims, with its attendant jihadi sensibility and Islamic supremacism, could not differ more from that of lapsed European Christians. This contrast leads many Muslims to see Europe as a continent ripe for conversion and domination. Outrageous supremacist claims result, such as the statement of Omar Bakri Mohammed, "I want Britain to become an Islamic state. I want to see the flag of Islam raised in 10 Downing Street." Or the prediction of a Belgium-based imam: "Soon we will take power in this country. Those who criticize us now, will regret it. They will have to serve us. Prepare, for the hour is near."[1]
Population: Demographic collapse also points to Europe being Islamized. The total fertility rate in Europe today averages about 1.4 per woman, whereas sustaining one's population requires just over two children per couple, or 2.1 children per woman. The existing rate is just two-thirds of what it needs to be; one-third of the requisite population is simply not being born.
To avoid a severe diminution of population, with all the woes that implies â and specifically, an absence of workers to fund generous pension plans â Europe needs immigrants â lots of them. That imported third of the population tends to be Muslim, in part because Muslims are close by â it's only thirteen kilometers from Morocco to Spain, only a couple of hundred to Italy from Albania or Libya; in part because colonial ties continue to bind South Asia to Britain or the Maghrib to France; and in part because of the violence, tyranny, and poverty so prevalent in the Muslim world today, which prompts wave after wave of emigration.
Likewise, the high fertility of Muslims complements the paucity of children among indigenous Christians. Although the Muslim fertility rate is falling, it remains significantly higher than that of Europe's indigenous population. No doubt, the high birth rates have something to do with the premodern circumstances in which many Muslim women of Europe find themselves. In Brussels, "Muhammad" has for some years been the most popular name given to infant boys, while Amsterdam and Rotterdam are on track to be, by about 2015, the first major European cities with majority Muslim populations. The French analyst Michel Gurfinkiel estimates an ethnic street war in France would find the children of indigènes and of immigrants in a roughly one-to-one ratio. Current predictions see a Muslim majority in Russia's army by 2015 and in the country as a whole by about 2050.
Sense of heritage: What often is depicted as Europe's political correctness reflects what I believe is a deeper phenomenon, namely, the alienation of many Europeans from their civilization, a sense that their historic culture is not worth fighting for or even saving. It's striking to note differences within Europe in this regard. Perhaps the country least prone to this alienation is France, where traditional nationalism still holds sway and the French take pride in their identity. Britain is the most alienated country, as symbolized by the plaintive government program, "ICONS - A Portrait of England," that lamely hopes to rekindle patriotism by connecting Britons to their "national treasures," such as Winnie-the-Pooh and the miniskirt.
This diffidence has had direct and adverse implications for Muslim immigrants, as Aatish Taseer explained in Prospect magazine.
Britishness is the most nominal aspect of identity to many young British Pakistanis. ⦠If you denigrate your own culture you face the risk of your newer arrivals looking for one elsewhere. So far afield in this case, that for many second-generation British Pakistanis, the desert culture of the Arabs held more appeal than either British or subcontinental culture. Three times removed from a durable sense of identity, the energised extra-national worldview of radical Islam became one available identity for second-generation Pakistanis.
Immigrant Muslims widely disdain Western civilization, and especially its sexuality (pornography, divorce, homosexuality). Nowhere in Europe are Muslims being assimilated, rarely does intermarriage take place. Here is one colorful example, from Canada: The mother of the notorious Khadr brood, known as the country's first family of terrorism, returned to Canada from Afghanistan and Pakistan in April 2004 with one of her sons. Despite her seeking refuge in Canada, she publicly insisted just a month earlier that Al-Qaeda-sponsored training camps were the best place for her children. "Would you like me to raise my child in Canada to be, by the time he's 12 or 13 years old, to be on drugs or having some homosexual relationship? Is it better?"
(Ironically, in centuries past, as the historian Norman Daniel has documented, Christian Europeans looked down at Muslims with their multiple wives and harems as overly-sexualized, and therefore felt morally superior.)
To sum up: this first argument holds that Europe will be Islamized, quietly submitting to the dhimmi status or converting to Islam, because the yin of Europe and yang of Muslims fit so well: low and high religiosity, low and high fertility, low and high cultural confidence.[2] Europe is an open door through which Muslims are walking.
II. Muslims Rejected
Or will the door be shut in their face? American columnist Ralph Peters dismisses the first scenario: "Far from enjoying the prospect of taking over Europe by having babies, Europe's Muslims are living on borrowed time. ⦠predictions of a Muslim takeover of Europe ⦠ignore history and Europe's ineradicable viciousness." Instead, depicting Europe as the place "that perfected genocide and ethnic cleansing," he predicts its Muslims "will be lucky just to be deported," and not killed. Claire Berlinski, in Menace in Europe: Why the Continent's Crisis Is America's, Too, implicitly agrees, pointing to the "ancient conflicts and patterns ⦠now shambling out of the mists of European history" which could well trigger violence.
This scenario has indigenous Europeans â who do still constitute 95 percent of the continent's population â waking up one day and asserting themselves. "Basta!" they will say, and reclaim their historic order. This is not so remote; a chafing among Europeans, less among elites than the masses, loudly protests changes already underway. Illustrations of that resentment include the anti-hijab legislation in France, irritation over the restrictions of national flags and Christian symbols, and the insistence on serving wine at state dinners. A movement spontaneously developed in several French cities in early 2006 to serve pork soup to the poor, thus intentionally excluding Muslims.
These are minor issues, to be sure, but insurgent anti-immigrant parties have already emerged in many countries and are beginning to demand not just effective control of borders but the expulsion of illegal immigrants. A nativist movement throughout Europe is forming largely unnoticed beneath our eyes. However meager its record so far, it has huge potential. Parties opposed to immigration and Islam generally have neo-fascist backgrounds but are growing more respectable over time, shedding their antisemitic origins and their dubious economic theories, focusing instead on the questions of faith, demography, and identity, and learning about Islam and Muslims. The British National Party and Belgium's Vlaamse Belang offer two examples of such a move toward respectability, which may one day be followed by electability. The presidential race in France in 2002 came down to a contest between Jacques Chirac and the neo-fascist Jean-Marie Le Pen.
Other parties have already tasted power. Jörg Haider and the Freiheitliche Partei Ãsterreichs were briefly in office. The Lega Nord in Italy was for years part of the ruling coalition. They will likely grow stronger because their anti-Islamist and often anti-Islamic messages resonate, and mainstream parties will partially adopt their messages. (Denmark's Conservative Party offers a model; after 72 years in the wilderness, it returned to power in 2001 due basically to anger concerning immigration.) These parties will likely benefit when immigration to Europe surges uncontrollably to ever-higher levels, including perhaps a mass exodus from Africa, as many indications suggest will happen.
Once in power, nationalist parties will reject multiculturalism and try to re-establish traditional values and mores. One can only speculate about their means and about the Muslim reaction, but the French riots of late 2005 give a possible taste of what lies ahead. Peters dwells on the fascistic and violent aspects of some groups and expects an anti-Muslim backlash to take ominous forms. He even sketches a scenario in which "U.S. Navy ships are at anchor and U.S. Marines have gone ashore at Brest, Bremerhaven or Bari to guarantee the safe evacuation of Europe's Muslims."
For years, Muslims have worried about just such incarceration and brutalization, followed by expulsion or even massacres. Already in the late 1980s, the late Kalim Siddiqui, director of London's Muslim Institute, raised the specter of "Hitler-style gas chambers for Muslims." Shabbir Akhtar warned in his 1989 book, Be Careful With Muhammad that "the next time there are gas chambers in Europe, there is no doubt concerning who'll be inside them," meaning Muslims. A character in Hanif Kureishi's 1991 novel, The Buddha of Suburbia, prepares the guerilla war that he expects will follow after "the whites finally turned on the blacks and Asians and tried to force us into gas chambers."
But it is more likely that European efforts at reclamation will be initiated peaceably and legally, with Muslims â in keeping with recent patterns of intimidation and terrorism â being the ones to initiate violence. Multiple polls confirm that about 5 percent of British Muslims endorse the 7/7 bombings, suggesting a general readiness to resort to force.
However it happens, a European reassertion cannot be assumed to take place cooperatively.
III. Muslims Integrated
In the happiest scenario, autochthonous Europeans and Muslim immigrants find a modus vivendi and live together harmoniously. Perhaps the classic statement of this optimistic expectation was a 1991 study, La France, une chance pour l'Islam ("France, an Opportunity for Islam") by Jeanne-Hélène and Pierre Patrick Kaltenbach. "For the first time in history," they wrote, "Islam is offered the chance to waken in a democratic, rich, laic, and peaceable country." That hopefulness lives on. An Economist leader from mid-2006 asserts that "for the moment at least, the prospect of Eurabia looks like scaremongering." Also at that time, Jocelyne Cesari, associate professor of Islamic studies at the Harvard Divinity School, claimed a balance exists: just as "Islam is changing Europe," she said, "Europe is changing Islam." She finds that "Muslims in Europe do not want to change the nature of European states" and expects them to adapt themselves into the European context.
Such optimism, unfortunately, has little foundation. Europeans could yet rediscover their Christian faith, have more babies, and cherish their own heritage. They could encourage non-Muslim immigration or acculturate the Muslims already among them. But such changes are not now underway, nor are their prospects good. Instead, Muslims are cultivating grievances and ambitions at odds with their indigenous neighbors. Worryingly, each generation appears more alienated than its predecessor. Canadian novelist Hugh MacLennan dubbed his country's English-French split the "Two Solitudes"; one sees something similar, but far more pronounced, developing in Europe. Those polls of British Muslims for example, find that a majority of them perceive a conflict between their British and Muslim identities and want Islamic law instituted.
The possibility of Muslims accepting the confines of historic Europe and smoothly integrating within it can virtually be dismissed from consideration. Even Bassam Tibi, professor at the University of Göttingen, who has often warned that "Either Islam gets Europeanized, or Europe gets Islamized," has personally given up on the continent. Recently, he announced that he is leaving Germany after 44 years' residence there, to move to Cornell University in the United States.
Conclusion
As the American columnist Dennis Prager sums them up, "It is difficult to imagine any other future scenario for Western Europe than its becoming Islamicized or having a civil war." Indeed, these two deeply unattractive alternative paths appear to define Europe's choices, with powerful forces pulling in the contrary directions of Muslims taking over or Muslims rejected, Europe an extension of North Africa or in a state of quasi-civil war.
Which will it be? The decisive events that will resolve this question have yet to take place, so one cannot yet make the call. Decision-time is fast approaching, however. Within the next decade or so, today's flux will end, the Europe-Islam equation will harden, and the continent's future course should become apparent.
Correctly anticipating that course is the more difficult for being historically unprecedented. No large territory has ever shifted from one civilization to another by virtue of a collapsed population, faith, and identity; nor has a people risen on so grand a scale to reclaim its patrimony. The novelty and magnitude of Europe's predicament make it difficult to understand, tempting to overlook, and nearly impossible to predict. Europe marches us all into terra incognita.
Mr. Pipes ( www.DanielPipes.org) is director of the Middle East Forum and visiting professor at Pepperdine University. This article is adapted from a talk for a Woodrow Wilson Center conference on "Euro-Islam: The Dynamics of Effective Integration."
[1] De Morgen, Oct. 5, 1994. Cited in Koenraad Elst, "The Rushdie Rules", Middle East Quarterly, June 1998.
[2] It's striking to note that in these three ways, Europe and the United States were much more similar 25 years ago than today. This suggests that their bifurcation results less from historical patterns going back centuries and more from developments in the 1960s. However deeply that decade affected the United States, it had a far deeper impact on Europe.
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Apr. 12, 2007 update: In two-part essay titled "Is European Civil War Inevitable by 2025?" Paul Weston calls it inevitable that Europe will find itself engaged a civil war so bloody it would make "WWII look like a bun fight." In part I, he makes this argument on the basis of demographic projections. In part II, he focuses on Islamic imperialism and predicts quite specifically when the European reaction will set it: "Somewhere between 2017 and 2030, during a period of heightened tension, Islamists in France, Holland or Britain will blow up one church, train or plane too many. Retaliation will begin and they, in turn will respond."
Apr. 16, 2007 update: In a major review of Philip Jenkins ' new book, God's Continent: Christianity, Islam, and Europe's Religious Crisis,.Richard John Neuhaus writes skeptically of the roseate views of the continent's future. Writing in the May 2007 issue of First Things ("The Much Exaggerated Death of Europe"), Neuhaus concludes the review with this anecdote:
At a recent dinner party with European intellectuals, I put to an influential French archbishop Daniel Pipes' projection: Either assimilation or expulsion or Islamic takeover. That, he said, puts the possibilities much too starkly. "We hope for the first," he said, "while we work at reducing immigration and prepare ourselves for soft Islamization." Soft Islamization. It is a wan expression. Whether soft or hard, the prospect is that, in the not-so-distant future, someone will publish a book titled Allah's Continent.
May 7, 2007 update: The violence predicted by Ségolène Royal, the Socialist candidate for president of France, upon a victory by her opponent, Nicolas Sarkozy, did come to pass, though not very strongly. Both her warning and the reality of the violence take the country another step toward the protracted quasi-civil war scenario sketched out above.
July 1, 2007 update In "Baby Bust," Noah Pollak takes the theme of my footnote 2 and turns it into a short article. He asks why Europeans have so few children and replies:
The current generation of child-bearing Europeans came to view their lives through the cultural revolutions engendered by the generation of 1968, the great mass of young people who, ironically, were products of the postwar European baby boom and ascended to power and influence by virtue of their own demographic weight. The cultural upheaval of '68 was an incongruous synthesis of revolutionary hedonism, political and economic collectivism, and a firm conviction that the West had become or had always been a force for imperialism, warfare, and environmental destruction. To a far greater degree than their counterparts in America, the '68ers achieved real political power and with it a cultural hegemony which dominates much of French and European political and intellectual life to this day.
Sep. 26, 2007 update: Interviewed in "Europe's failure to integrate Muslims called a 'recipe for civil war'," Bassam Tibi expands on his problems in Germany and gives a more balanced view than the headline suggests of why both indigenous Europeans and immigrant Muslims are at fault.
Oct. 6, 2007 update: Interviewed 48 minutes into The Third Jihad documentary, Bernard Lewis joins the predictors of Eurabia: "Europe is already, I think, a lost cause."
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