Indian political leaders and bureaucrat

[Bodhi]

VP Singh, Ex-PM died an hour back.

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Yes, the arch-pseudosecularist, the original divisive casteist, and the loving nurturer of Islamic terrorism in Kashmir. Next time we go to the bathroom, let's take a deep breath and urinate on his memory.

[Shambhu]

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VP dead
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->VP Singh, Ex-PM died an hour back.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Atleast one good news. <!--emo&:bcow--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/b_cowboy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='b_cowboy.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:bhappy--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/b_woot.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='b_woot.gif' /><!--endemo-->
He started India's downfall. I hope his end will be begining of other morons downfall.
Timeing is so good, he will get least coverage.

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He started India's downfall. I hope his end will be begining of other morons downfall.
Timeing is so good, he will get least coverage.
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Do you know his 'illness' cost the tax payers millions of rupees? We are saved from furter drain!

Any other time the secularists would have shut down the country for a two day mourning. Thank God! this would truly be unceremonious!!

[Husky]

Victory #3. Jai to Yama.

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he has being treated for his kidney problem abroad too
Higher Salaries But let them spend their own money on medical treatment and personal security
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Singh, the eminence grise of the present Government, has just returned from a long sojourn in London where he went for treatment of a kidney ailment. This is something our prime ministers, ministers and ex-ministers do routinely at taxpayers' expense. But what makes the expenditure in the present case even more unacceptable is the fact that we have ended up spending a lot of money under what appear to be medically unnecessary heads. Singh, you see, did not go alone. He and his wife were accompanied by a contingent of eight Special Protection Group (SPG) men. These officers went for little more than a summer holiday since they were obliged to deposit their weapons at Heathrow airport before entering the United Kingdom.

London has highly efficient security guards on hire but the SPG appears to have felt that its own men were more able to deal with potential assassins, even while unarmed. It also wanted to distribute the summer holiday evenly among its staff. So contingents of eight men went back and forth every two weeks and since Singh was staying in a suite at the St James' Court Hotel, naturally had to be put up there. This is one of the Taj group's international five-star hotels in which an ordinary room costs more than Rs 10,000 a day.

Needless to say, taxpayers' money paid for everything from hotel accommodation to healthcare to the limousine that was available to the ex-prime minister 24 hours a day. Calculate this kind of expenditure over three months and we are talking about crores of rupees.
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VP Singh was just a waste. God gave him pain full 15 years with death hanging all the time. He was responsible for death of hundreds of kids, I wish he should have seen suffereing in his own family as hundreds of parents are suffering. This man and his family should be cursed for generations. Child killers of India had easy death.

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Babus don’t bus to work</b>
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There’s no reason why the people should
Bureaucrats who spend their entire working lives travelling in poorly maintained, petrol-guzzling official cars — till recently the ubiquitous white Ambassador — fitted with flashing, screaming claxons symbolising power and authority at taxpayers’ expense, have the tendency to come up with the most bizarre suggestions to control fuel emission on city roads. Late last year, babus in the Government of Delhi decided that the best way to keep the national capital’s air clean and healthy would be to ban diesel vehicles from its roads. It did not strike them that India should move towards low sulphur diesel as has been done by developed countries with better air quality. Of course, they had to back off from implementing their absurd idea after diesel vehicle manufacturers exposed their ignorance and called their bluff. We are now told that the ‘Mission on Sustainable Habitat’, set up to implement the National Action Plan on Climate Change, has come up with equally preposterous and feather-brained measures to control carbon emission and save our planet from doom and destruction. With missionary zeal, the members of this exalted committee have recommended that the ‘all round cost’ of using ‘personal vehicles’ should be made so steep that people stop using their cars to commute to work and families stay home to watch Doordarshan on holidays. Of course, babus and politicians will be exempt from this severe disincentive as they do not use ‘personal vehicles’, nor will the ‘official vehicles’ that are placed at their disposal be withdrawn. The committee has also proposed that ownership of parking space should be made mandatory before people are allowed to buy cars; a heavy congestion charge should be imposed to stop people from driving into city centres; public parking space should be limited (presumably reserved for ‘official vehicles’) and parking fees linked to the cost of land; and, road space for ‘personal vehicles’ should be reduced.

All this and more adds up to a recipe for unmitigated disaster. More importantly, it betrays a certain mindset which should have gone out of fashion with the end of the pre-liberalisation era when <b>Ministers, babus and businessmen travelled in cars and everybody else either rode a bus or a bicycle to work, and groaned at the thought of taking their families out on Sunday</b>. Obviously, the official green brigade believes that salvation lies in refusing the masses the right to own cars. This is not policy but bureaucratic shortsightedness; the usual official knee-jerk response to a complex problem that results in short-cuts which lead to a blind alley and ultimately leaves a crisis unresolved. It is true that the country faces a huge problem of managing traffic on the roads, especially in urban areas, and reducing fuel emission. But it is equally true that the increasing number of cars on our roads could be contained had there been a viable public transport system. There isn’t, and nobody talks of augmenting public transport facilities or creating additional infrastructure. That would require both expenditure and creative thinking — the Government is reluctant to spend; babus do not have the ability to think out of the box. <b>There is no percentage in berating people for not bussing to work — babus don’t, neither do their political masters</b>. Nor should we expect people to stop using ‘personal vehicles’ — they have the right to do so. What can be done is to create an attractive alternative by way of an expanded, reliable public transport system. Countries that are serious about fuel emission have opted for this alternative. We are clearly not among those countries.
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<b>We need professional governance</b>
Prafull Goradia
<b><i>Despite entrepreneurial genius, governance in India has failed on many occasions. Inducing professionalism in governance may provide the much sought impetus</i></b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Mumbai on 26/11 was another evidence how the Central Government once again added to the already crippled law and order situation in the country. But there had to be a whipping boy, and that was Pakistan. It is not that Pakistan is not to blame for the present crisis erupted after what happened in Mumbai but we will have to introspect, especially when India aspires to be a superpower!

Why do we not admit to ourselves that we do not yet know how to govern effectively. The Indian civilisation has enough to offer in many spheres but not a sense of governance. As Mr J Krishnamurthy said that accepting the fact of a problem is half the solution. His plea was not to indulge in escapism. So true of our ruling class! If China's miraculous progress is pointed out, our excuse is its dictatorship. Korea and Singapore are smaller states. What about the United States? Oh, that's a different continent.

<b>Ancient India allotted the task of governing to the Kshatriyas who were perhaps five to 10 per cent of the people. The rest of the castes stayed away from governance and did not experience the art and craft of ruling. When the Kshatriyas could not cope, aliens came and took over. Even the Muslim rulers lost to a new aggressor almost every time. Dynasty followed dynasty. Ibrahim Lodi with one lakh troops was defeated and killed by Babar and his 13,000 soldiers at the first Battle of Panipat. The Mughal emperors could do little in the face of Nadir Shah as well as Ahmed Shah Abdali. </b>

Defending the state borders is an integral part of governance. When the Mughals, the Marathas and the Sikhs all failed, the East India Company took over. Imagine a commercial enterprise replacing maharajas, nawabs and nizams! Coming to the economic sphere, the entire sub-continent missed the industrial revolution until the British initiated it after 1857. This is despite the entrepreneurial genius of many Indians; evidently it was a systemic failure. Is it that India is perpetually in search of professional rulers because its own people are disinclined to rule themselves?

It is neither practical nor self-respecting to look outside for professional rulers. We need to make a deliberate effort to develop our own professionals. It should be useful to take a fresh look at the system on which is based the country's governance. If we cannot reform it, we need to call for a second republic. Our first republic is based on a Constitution which has been amended 109 times or nearly twice a year since it was installed in 1950. In contrast to our 395 Articles, the US Constitution has only seven Articles and needed to be amended only 26 times in the course of 230 years. The Japanese national document written in 1945 has not been amended even once.

In the course of history other countries also had problems of governance. For example, France since 1958 is the fifth republic. The first had come into being in 1792, the second in 1850, the third in 1870 and the fourth in 1944. The present Germany is the fifth Reich since the Berlin Wall fell and its two halves were reunited. The fourth Reich was inaugurated in 1949, the third by Adolf Hitler in 1934, the second after World War I with the capital at Weimar.

<b>A second republic is recommended for India because the country needs a system which would induce professionalism in governance. At present, MPs and MLAs are elected for the primary purpose of making laws. However, soon after their election they are expected to help forming the ministry or the executive for governing the country. In turn, the executive, represented by the Law Ministry, plays a part in appointing the judges. This results in confusion of powers and the legislator's first priority becomes enjoying the fishes and loaves of executive power, preferably in becoming minister. Law making, for which he is chosen, becomes a non-priority. The laws are drafted by bureaucrats and passed by the legislatures most often in the course of a few minutes without debate. Parliament sessions are called or postponed at the convenience of the executive as it happened in the course of 2008. Many a State Assembly meets only for a few days in the year. Not infrequently, there are Assembly sessions which last for only three days. </b>

In contrast to this confusion of powers, the US Constitution is based on a separation of powers. That is, the legislators make laws; they do not participate in their execution. The executives, headed by the President for the country and the Governor for the State, are elected purely for running the executive Government. The judiciary is independent. The all round progress made by the country is a testimony to the effectiveness of its system.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Politicians With Many Wives</b>
Updated:  12-30-2008 
Indian politicians are a promiscuous lot is a known fact. The Indian voter had never carried any doubt about this in his mind but this is probably the first time that two incidents about their liking for women have come in the public eye.

One has been the case of the Governor of Andhra Pradesh N D Tiwari where a young man has gone to the courts claiming that the septuagenarian has fathered him illegally through his mother who happens to be a congress worker. The second case is the case of the much married Chandra Mohan the suspended Dy Chief Minister of Haryana who absconded from duties to run away with his lover of 5yrs Anuradha Bali to get married to her. He even converted to Islam to keep both his present and ex wives as per law.

Both these cases show amply that the Politicians in India are as colorful characters as film stars. They are not only promiscuous but also have good taste for women. Well, Karunanidhi has many wives as we all know. The law makers and the rulers are following this polygamy to big extent.

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Mr. Gopalaswami is an able man with a great deal of administrative experience. He is well regarded in the services. But his suo motu act of adventurism, coming towards the end of his tenure as CEC, is constitutionally and democratically out of line. The Manmohan Singh government will no doubt give the CEC’s unasked opinion the quietus it deserves. But its effect will be to stir up political controversy over an institution that has done its job of conducting free, fair, and peaceful elections creditably during Mr. Gopalaswami’s tenure. The impact on the internal workings of the Election Commission of India can well be imagined.

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<b>Chief Election Commissioner N Gopalaswami recommends sacking of commissioner Navin Chawla</b>

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Chief Election Commissioner N Gopalaswami had sent a recommendation to President Pratibha Patil for the removal of other Election Commissioner Navin Chawla.

In his letter he has asked for the removal on the grounds of partisanship.  In 2006, TIMES NOW had reported that Navin Chawla had taken funds in a private trust set up by him from the MPLADS funds. This trust continued to recieve funds even two months prior to Navin Chawla becoming the election commissioner.

Documents in possession of TIMES NOW showed that Chawla’s wife also recieved money for a turst she ran for leprosy patients. The documents also showed a waiver was granted not once but twice to allow four MPs to give a total of 70 lakhs.

However, Chawla had clarified that no financial transactions had been carried out between his trust and politicians.

Gopalaswami himself will retire as CEC on April 20 and Chawla is to succeed him.

The election commission consists of a Chief Election Commissioner and he is assisted by two Deputy Commissioners.

Constitutionally the Chief Election Commisioner can be removed only by an impeachment in the parliament by two third majority voting for the removal.  However the two Deputy Commissioners assisting him, though have equal voting right within the commission, do not have such safeguard and they can be removed at the recommendation of the Chief Election Commissioner.

The new question is:  Is the government bound by the recommendation of the CEC?  Perhaps the Supreme Court might get into the picture if the UPA govt decides to refuse the recommendation.

With the impending general elections, this questions assumes urgency.

But then I suppose the Govt might remove Chawla and give him an Ambassador’s job and appoint another crook in his place.

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Reuters | Singapore
Singapore's civil servants are the most efficient among their Asian peers, a business survey on 12 economies released on Wednesday showed, but they tend to clam up unhelpfully when things go wrong.

India's "suffocating bureaucracy" was ranked the least-efficient by the survey, which said working with the country's civil servants was a "slow and painful" process.

"<b>They are a power centre in their own right at both the national and state levels, and are extremely resistant to reform that affects them or the way they go about their duties,</b>" Hong Kong-based Political & Economic Risk Consultancy said in a 12-page report of Singapore's bureaucracy.

The island-state was ranked first for a third time in a poll of 1,274 expatriates working in 12 North and South Asian nations on the efficiency of bureaucrats in those countries. The poll was last held in 2007.

"During normal times, when the system is not stress-tested, it operates very well," PERC said.

"However, during difficult times - or when mistakes are made that reflect badly on the system - there is a tendency among bureaucrats to circle the wagons in ways that lack transparency and make accountability difficult," the report said.

Thailand, despite four years of on-off street protests and a year of dysfunctional government was ranked third.

"For all the country's troubles -- or perhaps because of them -- respondents to our survey were impressed with the way Thai civil servants have been carrying out their duties," PERC said.

It said state offices associated with corruption presented the most difficulties for Thai citizens and foreigners.

PERC managing director Bob Broadfoot told that the controversy around huge investment losses by Singapore sovereign wealth fund Temasek was a good example of how things could become less transparent in in the island-state.

The Singapore government has come under fire from lawmakers and its citizens over several investment losses, particular its exit from Bank of America which resulted in a loss of over $3 billion, according to calculation.

The survey ranked Hong Kong second. China, which has been campaigning to fight corruption in its bureaucracy and improve efficiency on the civil service, was ranked 9th in the 2009 poll, two places down from 2007.

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Indian bureaucracts are chor, lazy pigs and dumb, no need for certificate, they are walking certificates. If you are abroad , check Indian Embassies, if in India, check any ministry. You can rank them from dumb, dumber and dumbest .

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FM loses his cool, twists scribe's ear
Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee on Saturday lost his cool and twisted the ear of a photo-journalist during a melee at a meeting of Pradesh Congress Committee (PCC) in Kolkata.
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Journalist should bring assault case against minister. What a jerk?

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>NCP MP Padamsinh Patil arrested in murder case, remanded</b>
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PTI | Mumbai
Senior NCP leader and <b>Lok Sabha MP Padamsinh Patil was arrested on Sunday </b>by the CBI for his alleged involvement in the 2006 murder of Maharashtra Congress leader Pawanraje Nimbalkar and his driver, following which he was remanded in the agency's custody till June 14 by a court.

Patil "has been booked under section 302 (murder) and section 120 B (criminal conspiracy) of IPC. He has been remanded to our custody till June 14," CBI counsel Ijaz Khan said after the 69-year-old MP was produced in a court in Panvel in Navi Mumbai, 50 kms from here.

Patil was detained last night after two of the arrested accused -- Parasmal Jain and Mohan Shukla -- allegedly named him in the June 3, 2006 case in which Nimbalkar and his driver were shot dead in a car at Kalamboli in Navi Mumbai.

The CBI lawyer told the court that "both Jain and Shukla had named Padamsinh Patil as the one who paid 'Supari' (contract) of Rs 30 lakh and ordered killing of Nimbalkar." The probe agency said Nimbalkar, also a cousin of Patil, was killed due to business rivalry.
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<b>IAS officer caught in ‘act’, accused of sodomy</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--> 33-year-old IAS officer was caught on camera with his pants down and promptly suspended.

The Madhya Pradesh government took this action against the CEO of the Bhopal district panchayat, Dnyaneshwar Patil for allegedly sodomising a panchayat secretary.

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Though <b>Patil, a 2003-batch IAS officer</b>, has been suspended, the police are yet to register an FIR against him.

Bhopal superintendent of police Jaideep Prasad said a case would be registered only after verification of the complaints made by both men. He said Chauksey would be medically examined.
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Yes, now one babu will protect other babu.

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PTI | New Delhi
A demand was made by two members in the Lok Sabha on Friday for sacking of the Union Minister who allegedly tried to “pressurise” a judge of the Madras High Court to sanction anticipatory bail to the accused in a mark-sheet forgery case.

Raising the matter, M Thambidurai (AIADMK) said Prime Minister Manmohan Singh should identify the Minister and remove him from the Council of Ministers immediately.
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Well "Cash for Question" were kicked out from parliament but appointed Prime Minister of India lacks spine, so don't expect anything will happen. Why we call him Moron Singh, another reason?

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Letter to Editor regarding irresponsible statement ……….kargil war is circulated

LETTER TO EDITOR
By
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
IRRESPONSIBLE STATEMENT ……….KARGIL WAR
Dated: 18 Jul 2009
Dear Editor in Chief,

1. <b>Rashid Ali, a congress MP, has made a statement on 15 Jul 2009 out side Parliament that Kargil War was the BJP War and therefore, BJP can celebrate it, Congress is not going to participate in it</b>. It is a shocking statement which reveals a total bankruptcy of a feeling of National pride and what India stands for. 527 soldiers who sacrificed their lives besides 1000 who were seriously injured, did not do so for a particular political party. They did it for the Nation. Such an irresponsible statement from an elected representative of the people tantamounts to denigrating the Defence Forces and the sprit of sacrifice of a soldier for his Nation. Not only the Armed Forces but the Nation as a whole stands humiliated.

2. The erring MP owes an apology to the Nation for making such a damaging statement which carries seeds of nation’s doom. UPA Govt should automatically take it upon itself to reprimand its MP and to assure the nation that there is no such antinational feeling taking roots in its constituents.

3. It is pertinent to mention that in the recent past there have been attempts willfully or otherwise to show the Defence Forces in poor light. It is difficult to fathom the reasons for this unless this is the handiwork of elements inimical to the interest of the country. We appeal to all political parties to refrain from any action or statement which is likely to affect the morale of the Defence Forces and harm National Interest.

<i>(The author is a Former Senior Fellow and Security Analyst of Institute of Defence Studies and Analysis (IDSA), has been examiner PhD thesis in Defence & Security Studies, Ex Commandant Services Selection Centre & President SSB, besides being Instructor at four premier institutions of the Army. Presently he is a Vice Chairman Indian Ex Servicemen Movement (IESM), Tele No -09312404269, 0124-2461416) .</i>

With Kind Regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
Mobile: 9312404269, 0124-4110570
Email : satbirsm@yahoo. com