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So the Sinhalese cremated the dead christian Prabhakaran to spite him, did they?
Now why don't we deal with christoislami terrorists the same way?


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http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/05/cau...amils-tell.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Caught in the Middle: Sri Lankan Tamils tell their stories</b>
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190,000+ Tamizhs (mostly Hindus, of course) in the internment camps.
(Here on the news over the weekend, they showed how the people weren't being let out of the camps on the excuse of "an undercover LTTE might get loose".)

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<b>Catholic Church, an ally of Tamil Tiger terrorists</b>
R. Jayakody, M. Gunaratnam & R. Surendran
http://www.honestreports.co.cc/
April 2009

Desperate situations call for desperate measures and desperate measures can leak out material factors that may have begot or moulded certain movements, their hidden agendas and even ultimate intentions. It has been suspected for a long time that the powerful force behind the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) was the Catholic Church continuing with the Catholic Portuguese colonial traditions of atrocities and carnage that was led by this church in Sri Lanka.

This is not strange or peculiar to Sri Lanka. This is what the Catholic Church has been doing in South America, in the Philippines and other countries where murder and mayhem were the methods used for brutal subjugation of people. The fact that the Catholic Church played a major role in the genesis of the Tiger movement under the cover of Tamil liberation is widely known. But this was hardly suspected that it was a powerful force of such magnitude that it has turned out to be and with such overseas clout that Prabhakaran’s role is an utter minimal factor centred on Sri Lanka and perhaps South Asia.

The real power is certainly overseas and signs of it are now leaking out in a major way. The Catholic Bishop of Jaffna, the Rev Father Thomas Soundaranayagam has unashamedly made several false accusations about conditions for Tamils in Sri Lanka with absolutely no conscience whatsoever.

How can a cassocked guy like him and that too a Bishop of the Realms lie wantonly to claim that Tamils in Sri Lanka suffer extreme privations even without water, toilet and food and other essentials? Suddenly one morning, while in Tamilnadu recently, he must have realized he was in Sri Lanka and wondered where the toilets were. What he saw outside his window must have shocked him.

Bishop Soundaranayagam, who has kept his peace all these years, has suddenly roared into the circus arena like a show animal determined to safe the Tigers. He has no concern for the civilians who, it is now known, were persuaded by the Catholic clergy like Father James Pathinathar to become human shields. Is this a last desperate move by him to save the Tigers? How dare he utter such falsehoods in Tamilnadu?

Talking about toilets, surely Bishop Soundaranayagam is aware how well provided people of Sri Lanka are and in contrast, he should have come to know what this situation is like in Tamilnadu. A feature some months ago proposed to Gopalaswamy that he must get involved promoting toilet facilities in Tamilnadu instead of helping the LTTE to promote terrorism in Sri Lanka.

Now that the LTTE is virtually finished in Sri Lanka, Father Soundaranayagam appears to have decided to sow seeds of desolation and despondency in Tamilnadu working around the corrupt politicians there. At a time when politicians like Gopalaswamy and Nedumaran are suspected of being privies to the assassinations of Rajiv Gandhi, Amirthalingam and several others, it is outrageous that the people of Tamilnadu are tolerant towards such people who can create Tiger terrorism in their state and the ones in the neighbourhood like Kerala, Karnataka and Andhra Pradesh.

Tamilnadu is certainly the inevitable option for the Catholic Church to help father this ruthless terrorist force, and for the mini-politicians of Tamilnadu all that matters are the funds that will flow to them. Prabhakaran will be gone but the underworld network he has helped to create will survive and along the southern coasts are settled people from the smuggler village of Valvettiturai who have mastered the art of smuggling over the decades. There is no doubt about the fact that what this movement will opt for is International Terrorism as hired killers for there is lot of money in it. It is to be observed with much concern, the Catholic Church is a dominant factor along the southern coast of Tamilnadu.

Even before the Government of Sri Lanka demands an explanation from the Catholic Church to explain and identify their relationship with the LTTE, it must come out into the open and explain their stand. This should be directly related to the LTTE that has no political ideology whatsoever but only wanted to set up a mafia state and towards which indulged in several killings of Hindu, Buddhist and Muslim political leaders and intellectuals.

When the Muslims were ruthlessly chased away from Jaffna, the Catholic Church remained silent. Most of the Muslim families in Jaffna lived in close proximity to Catholic families. It was the Catholic Church that became the loot keepers of the LTTE especially whatever was heisted from the banks. It was also known that during the early days arms were imported into Jaffna and this was aided by the Catholic Church. It was also suspected church premises were used as torture chambers as well.

Reports meanwhile are fast pouring in from angst-ridden and tortured Wanni residents who have managed to escape from the claws of the Tigers having been forcibly marched and herded as human shields, a major weapon far too often used by this terrorist group. On more than many occasions they were aided in this horrendous act by the clergy of the Catholic Church.

Time and again, the Sri Lanka Guardian has warned that the Catholic Church is heavily involved with the LTTE right from the 1970s. Unfortunately, these warnings were not heeded. Today, desperate moves are being made to save the LTTE and even countries like Mexico and Puerto Rico whose citizens may not have heard of Sri Lanka, are being pressed into service. They are of course Catholic states.

Just before the current crisis erupted in Wanni into a large scale catastrophe, the Rev Father James Pathinathar was actively involved in persuading, even to the level forcing, Wanni residents to flee to Mullaitivu, obviously at the behest of the Tigers to create a massive Human Shield for them. The Tigers knew they would need this as the last hope to achieve a ceasefire. People like Father Pathinathar and the Catholic Church also know that if forced to the ultimate, the Tigers will subject the civilians to slaughter which would give a terrible name to Sri Lanka.

While the Non-Catholic Church remained aloof to this horrendous conspiracy to their honour and credit, there were a couple of foreign-funded fundamentalist protestant priests with massive funds from the US who worked closely with some INGOs and NGOs many of whose representatives have conducted themselves against the Government of Sri Lanka and the people.

One such claiming to represent a phony church appears to have helped Father Pathinathar with the herding of the civilians and also provided certain communication equipment to Pottu Amman. He is also reported to have sought the help of Minister Douglas Devananda on a different matter altogether. Minister Devananda was obviously not aware of his two-timing nature; rather multi-timing activities. He should have checked the antecedents of this priest.

We have confirmed news that on March 27, a group of parents who have escaped from the Tigers reported to the military a horrendous account of their experience focused on a priest who was living with them in the No Fire Zone (NFZ) in Puthumathalan. He forcibly helped the Tigers to recruit more than 550 children and young people.

In order to ensure the safety of their children, some 600 of them were sent to a church just south of Puthumathalan to protect them from the Tigers who were on a ruthless rampage to recruit children. The priest resident in the church, which we presume was Father James Pathinathar, had promised the parents that he would not allow the LTTE to take away their children.

However, when on March 24, a large group of Tiger cadres most of them females arrived, despite the parents informing him about this, the priest allowed them to go into the church. When they ordered the children to go with them, the priest vanished from the scene.

In sheer desperation, several teenagers attacked the Tiger cadres followed by some of the parents. While some fifty children managed to escape, over 500 of them were forced at gun points and taken away in Tiger vehicles. A grandmother told the Daily Mirror that she was able to save her 17-year old grandson after overcoming a female cadre. This youngster, the grandmother who saved him and their entire family have managed to escape to the protection of the armed forces.

The grandmother said: “The life in this area is like living in hell, the priest is openly helping the LTTE to recruit youth. In the night the priest in LTTE uniform used to go with other LTTE cadres to forcibly recruit youth.”

She also said that most other parents are still in the church although they had a chance to escape, hoping the children will come back. It has been well known that the female cadres are the most ruthless of the fighting force having looked up to Prabhakaran as their hero. It is also known that their induction into the force begins with the devastation of the qualities that make women the natural genre of tender loving care. As a result, they become animals.

As horror stories unfold, it is becoming more and more evident that there was a dastardly conspiracy headed by the Catholic Church in which many of the INGO and NGO volunteers were fully involved. The kingpin in this conspiracy appears to be the Catholic Bishop of Manner, Rev Father Joseph Rayappu, who was often the first person consulted by foreign visitors to Wanni and whose fellow workers or volunteers were active there.

One has to also wonder why the Catholic Bishops in other parts of Sri Lanka are silent in this matter of very grave concern. Whoever has the ultimate responsibility and obligation to The Vatican should have taken to task, the Catholic clergy that has given comfort to the brutal Tigers. Since they have not, it would certainly be presumed that either the Catholic Church is an ally of the LTTE or worse, they certainly begot this terrorist movement which means that Vatican has not dispensed with The Inquisition and wants to have the Third World under its thumb at all times.
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    Times London says <b>20,000 tamils killed in the final stages of the war by sri lankan army</b> (http://news.rediff.com/report/2009/may/29/
lanka-thousands-of-tamil-civilians-killed-in-final-war-says-times-newspaper.htm).
    Since these were i assume <b>largely Hindus</b>, the kaangress govt. & their dmk cronies can dismiss them as collateral damage and get on with the more urgent business of demolishing ram setu.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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<b>LTTE: A Failed Christian Conspiracy </b>

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The nearly three-decade-long fight by the LTTE for a separate homeland for Tamils in Sri Lanka has come to end after the death of Tamil Tigers chief Velupillai Prabhakaran. Yet the world in general, and the Tamil community in particular has not understood the true nature of the so-called ‘Tamil struggle’ that Prabhakaran had initiated and was leading for nearly thirty years.

There are many clinching clues which all go to indicate that Prabhakaran’s ways were not in line with any struggle for honour of Sri Lankan Tamils or attempts at securing viable autonomy or independence for them.

First and foremost, Prabhakaran was demanding an independent Tamil state in Sri Lanka right from the beginning of his taking leadership of LTTE. In genuine political struggles, such downright claim for a separate and independent state is indicative of either abysmal lack of wisdom, or ulterior design, unless the reigning government has come to power after an invasion or crooked political moves of foreigners, as was the case with the British in pre-Independence India. The government in Sri Lanka belonged to neither category. It consisted of democratically elected representatives of the people who are native to that country.  The Sri Lankan government was no usurper to political power. Demands for, say, (a) adequate representation for Tamils in government, (b) establishment of a separate Ministry for looking after their welfare, or © reasonable autonomy for Sri Lankan Tamils were some demands that any sensible and responsible leader of a group would have made before resorting to violent means against a government established by law. Prabhakaran has no history of advocating and trying such peaceful and sensible means seriously at any point of time. This casts suspicion on Prabhakaran’s avowed position as the acclaimed leader of the Tamils in Sri Lanka.

Secondly, the ruthless violence and dozens of well-planned murders resorted to by Prabhakaran against the other Tamil politico-social organizations in Sri Lanka sufficiently proved that he had no hesitation in shedding Tamil blood.

Thirdly, the support base of Prabhakaran was sufficient to raise any thoughtful man’s eyebrows. The forces that buttressed and gave aid to him were head-quarted in London and Paris. Has the British or the French government or any of their wealthy four ‘estates’ ever supported any genuine freedom-struggle in Asia or Africa?  History tells about quite the opposite sort of disposition.  We know what ignoble treatment the heroic Swatantrya-veera Vinayak Damodar Savarkar got  at the hands of the French authorities when he swam the sea, escaping from a British ship and landed on French soil, thinking that he would be safe there since the British had no domain over French territory, and especially so since the British and the French were at loggerheads. Alas, the French officials on the shores remanded Savarkar to the British. But Prabhakaran was counting on, and getting support from London and Paris till the last phase of his life! Were from was he getting money for his operations is an open secret.  Doesn’t something smell fishy?  Need I tell you that Prabhakaran was a pawn used cleverly by imperialists in Europe? Even a child with a modicum of intelligence knows that.

Fourthly, LTTE’s discrimination against Tamil Muslims in Sri Lanka gives a clear clue to the fallacy of Prabhakaran’s claim that his movement was aimed at securing freedom for Tamils in Sri Lanka. It has been reported that 33 per cent of the population in Eastern Province of Sri Lanka is Muslim. Given the prolific number of terrorists prompted by jihad, and the enormous presence of Muslims in jails wherever there is a sizable Muslim population in the world, and especially south Asia, there need not be any dearth for Muslims among the LTTE cadres, were the LTTE fighting for the cause of Tamils, as it had been claiming. And Prabhakaran had nothing, and is not supposed to have anything against Islam or Muslims. He was a perfectly secular Tamil leader, wasn’t he?  Not mere segregation or neglect, far beyond that there had been violent clashes between Tamil Muslims and other Tamils in Sri Lanka, and lo! Never did any of us hear this great Tamil champion tell anyone anything like “No fighting, pals, Tamil Muslims too are Tamils.” Why? And Why? It was not because the language of peace was alien to him. The root was somewhere else.

Fifthly, it is worthy of notice that a genuine freedom-fighting outfit, even when it is troubled by a hundred problems, never miss a chance to express concern about another similar body of persons struggling against tyranny, and to extent at least moral support to such other bodies. The LTTE leadership has never opened its mouth against the Government-sponsored violations of human rights in Malaysia against Tamilian immigrants there.

For those who are wise and willing enough to pierce the Tamil veil and see the truth, it is amply clear that Prabhakaran’s scheme of things, his political design, and style of functioning were all far removed from the noble Tamil culture, inborn Tamil humanism and the avowed goal of setting up a Tamil Eezham (mispronounced and resultantly mis-spelt as ‘Eelam’).

Prabhakaran, in reality, was a conspirator in, and the chief executor of a large international Christian design for creating an anti-Indian territory to the south of India in Sri Lanka, and for expanding in future such hostile territory to the south Indian state of Tamil Nadu. What else could fuel such a subversion-scheme than fanning Tamil chauvinism? Hence LTTE’s Tamil face as a mask for Christian guns and grenades. Every sincere fighter of the LTTE was being used as a cat’s paw by this crooked leader of Church-sponsored terrorism. Most of the other top leaders of the outfit were also Christians by faith, mainly Protestant, some of them hiding Christian identity with Hindu names, as Prabhakaran himself was doing.  And who were the outfit’s fighters? Almost all of them Hindus, many of young age, good health, and like almost all Hindus, faithful to the core. In short, Prabhakaran was playing a tricky, lethal and long game with Hindu lives. And the LTTE leaders? Prabhakaran himself was a practising Christian. He was trying to escape with his son Charles Anthony when the Sri Lankan soldiers finished the nasty game forever. See, the one who had told young LTTE suicide bombers that valour consisted in sacrificing one’s life for the cause of Tamil pride, was trying to protect his son and himself! What a wide gap between precept and practice! But the rules of righteousness are great. Sheer accident saved the noble life of Thomas Paine and his prison-cell mates from the guillotine. No such thing came to save the artful dodger called Prabhakaran.

One cannot withhold admiration for the Sri Lankan government for taking a firm resolution and its army for executing the same with all vigour. Blessed art thou the land of Vibhishana, not ruled by Gandhian hypocrites, nor populated by native fools with misplaced sympathies and misguided notions of ahimsa, nor controlled by foreign hands. While a dastardly jihadi biped, condemned by successive courts of law to be hanged to death, still breathes free in the land of Shri Rama, the arch-perpetrator of terror despite all his foreign support, has been incapacitated for ever in the land of Vibhishana. They say a people get the government it deserves. How true!

With the killing of Prabhakaran, the nefarious gameplan of Christian schemers and colonialist-subverters, has come to its deserved end. But though the ultimate plan did not succeed, the nearly thirty-year terror record of LTTE has done considerable harm to Hindu community in general and Tamil Hindus in particular, and also causing some substantial damage to Singhalese Buddhists. Chief among the havocs caused are:

·        Loss of tens of thousands of Hindu lives, especially lives of young boys and girls, and heavy loss of Hindu property;

·        Creation of bad blood between citizens of Sri Lanka and India, effectively between Buddhists and Hindus;

·        Incurring bad name for Singhalese Buddhists, especially the Buddhist clergy, picturing them as bigots, human-right violators, and advocates of exclusivism;

·        Incurring bad name for Sri Lankan Tamils as ‘terrorists’, thereby destroying their chances to decent employment and social life in civilized societies. This served another purpose of the Christian schemers namely to ‘prove’ that terrorism is not the sole property of jihadis or Christian goons (as in the north-east of India, which has been amply exposed by upright writers like the noble Stephen Knapp);

·        Cementing of an insular and thoughtless Tamil jingoism in a vast number of Tamils in India, the basic (baseless) proposition of which is that Tamil people are a separate ‘nation’. The design to divide Sri Lanka, and to further divide India on the basis of race, is clearly visible for all those who want to see.

The latest claim of LTTE's ‘International Relations head’ S. Pathmanathan that Prabhakaran is “still alive and safe” might be part of a ploy of the playback schemers to project, in future, some look-alike of the dead man and to carry on terrorist acts and depredation and subversion in the name of Tamilian rights in Sri Lanka. But Sri Lankans are not so weak or foolish to allow senseless violence and bloodbath on their soil any more. The unity of the Sri Lankan people in combating the LTTE menace, is enviable and worthy of emulation. Further, Sri Lankan Prime Minister has not the misfortune to take orders from any foreigner or to appease some overseas powers by singing alien tunes or by telling things that he himself does not believe.  He has no misfortune to tell anyone shamelessly that a particular group of the people of his country has ‘first preference’ over national assets.  And in fortunate countries, if a democratically elected ruler shows the audacity to tell such nonsense and violation of the principle of equality of rights for all, the people of the country shall give a befitting reply to such unbridled show of servility. But in a nation of parabrahmas, such guys sometimes get more support, and the people write off such phenomena as the vikritis of Age Kali.

If Tamil enthusiasts sympathetic to LTTE will learn any rational and sensible lesson from Prabhakaran’s tale, it is well and good for them. The Indian people cannot be too careful against internationally organized faith-borne conspiracies, subversive designs and acts of depredation. Such destructive plans do not cease altogether with the death of Prabhakaran. Given the innate bent of some people to create trouble for peaceful communities, such nefarious designs will appear again in different shapes and at different places. To borrow a phrase from Winston Churchill’s famous short piece on the stealthy ways of Communists, The Anatomy of Revolution, “to be forewarned is to be forearmed.”<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

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<b>Impotent West rages at Lanka</b>
Kanchan Gupta

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->In the early-1990s when gunbattles between terrorists and security forces were a commonplace occurrence in Jammu & Kashmir, a British newspaper ran a bizarre story. If memory serves me right, it was The Independent which, in a ‘special’ despatch, probably filed from Pakistan-occupied Kashmir, reported how Indian Army jawans would drape themselves in white sheets and descend on remote villages after nightfall. Poor, terrified Kashmiris, convinced that they were being attacked by ‘ghosts’, would either die of shock or lose their mental equilibrium. I don’t remember the exact details, but I think there was some mention of the less fortunate being shot dead in cold blood.

<b>In those days the Anglo-American media merrily concocted grim stories of human rights violations by the Indian state, </b>many of them fed by a certain Robin Raphel who had been appointed America’s official busybody for South Asia by President Bill Clinton. The terrorists, separatists and assorted Islamists in the Valley hero-worshipped her while human rights organisations tripped over each other to produce gory reports which Ms Raphel would then cite to denigrate India. I recall receiving a glossy report published by Amnesty International on ‘extrajudicial killings’ in the Kashmir Valley by the Indian Army. The cover showed a distraught, dishevelled woman wailing over a grave and the caption said, “A Kashmiri widow grieves for her husband killed by the Indian Army” — or words to that effect. <b>A friend in London alerted me that it was a con job; friends in the Government helped track down the origin of the cover photograph: It had been shot at the grave of a peer in south India, </b>a visit to which is believed to cure lunatics of their lunacy. There was no e-mail those days, so a fax was sent to Amnesty International seeking its comment. There was no response. The Pioneer ran a story pointing out the inaccuracy and raising questions about the contents between the misleading covers. It was subsequently picked up by other newspapers and news services. Amnesty International put out a long statement, insisting that the cover was ‘only illustrative’ and the contents of the report were ‘correct’. But nobody, barring the Anglo-American media, bothered to take note of it.

Years later there was the Chittisinghpora massacre in Anantnag district of Jammu & Kashmir on March 20, 2000. Dressed in Indian Army fatigues, Lashkar-e-Tayyeba terrorists killed 36 Sikhs. One of the killers, Mohammad Suhail Malik of Sialkot in Pakistan, told Barry Bearak of the New York Times that he was ‘directed’ by the LeT to carry out the massacre. Suhail Malik is a nephew of Hafiz Mohammad Saeed, the chief terrorist of LeT who now heads Jamaat-ud-Dawa’h and has just been rewarded by the Lahore High Court for masterminding last November’s fidayeen attack on Mumbai. <b>The overwhelming evidence about the LeT’s involvement in the Chittisinghpora massacre was ignored by the Anglo-American media which insisted the killings were the handiwork of the Indian Army. This absurd claim </b>was bolstered by fifth columnists amidst us, including a travel writer fascinated by something as banal as ‘butter chicken’ (I must shame-facedly admit that it was me who encouraged him to become a writer and gave him his first byline in the Pioneer), who wrote long essays and scathing articles denouncing India in the Anglo-American media while exonerating the LeT and its patrons in Pakistan.

<b>These stories come to mind as I read horrifying accounts of how the Sri Lankan Army ‘killed’ 20,000 or more Tamil civilians in the concluding days of the war </b>it waged against the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam, <b>one of the most dreaded terrorist organisations in the world </b>to which goes the credit of inventing the ‘suicide belt’ and popularising the ‘human bomb’ as a weapon of mass terror. Had it not been for the LTTE and its ruthless chief, Velupillai Prabhakaran, jihad minus suicide bombers would have been less blood-curdlingly spectacular. <b>Ever since its formation in 1976, the LTTE excelled in mindless slaughter and running a Pol Pot-like regime with the help of sophisticated arms and limitless funds. </b>Prabhakaran ran every possible racket — from drug trafficking to human trafficking, from extortion to appropriation — to fund his terrorist enterprise. He deployed women to blow themselves up and kill high profile targets, including Rajiv Gandhi; he forcibly inducted children into his army to be used as cannon fodder. In the end, he got his just desserts. Tamils and Sinhalese are celebrating their liberation from the fear of man-eating Tigers.

<b>The Americans have got nowhere with their three-trillion-dollar war on terror. </b>The Sri Lankans have demonstrated that all it takes is conviction and determination to destroy terror root and branch. <b>The mighty West looks impotent when compared to a tiny island nation which has won a spectacular victory. </b>Is this why the Anglo-American media has unleashed a virulent campaign of calumny against Sri Lanka, accusing its Army of genocide? The Times of London has published a story alleging at least 20,000 civilians have been killed by the Sri Lankan Army. This is thrice the figure claimed by busybodies of the UN. <b>There is a clamour among ‘liberal’ democracies in Europe that the Sri Lankan Government should be tried for ‘war crimes’. The US is strangely silent.</b> Colombo says no more than 3,000 to 5,000 civilians, who were used as a ‘human shield’ by Prabhakaran and his men, have been killed, nearly all of them in LTTE fire. Collateral damage is inevitable in the war on terror, or else Afghan civilians would not die during Nato operations and Pakistanis would not be killed in American drone attacks.

Here are some facts which perhaps explain the rush to shed tears for the LTTE and concoct outlandish stories about the Sri Lankan Army blasting its way through with heavy mortar in a densely-populated area. Over the decades<b> Tamils from Sri Lanka with pronounced LTTE connections have been provided with ‘political asylum’ in countries like Britain, Canada and the US. </b>The Tamil diaspora is now estimated to be 1.2 million strong. The Tamils are financially well-off and have access to politicians whom they fund. In the UK, Germany, Canada, the US and smaller European countries they command a sizeable vote-share (300,000 voters in Canada can swing results in several constituencies). With the LTTE gone, the rackets many of them ran on behalf of Prabhakaran will now be adversely affected. Hence their raucous protest and impressive rallies.

<b>As for the sanctimonious Anglo-American media, any story that paints the former colonies in the bleakest of colours </b>is worth publishing on the front page. <b>The media-generated outrage would suggest that only Whites have the right to wage war on terror. </b>Racism doesn’t exist only in Australia.
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Colonial mindset
Anuradha Dutt

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->‘Liberal’ West weeps over LTTE’s decimation

Some in the British Government seem to believe that the sun has not set over the empire. How does one otherwise view British Foreign Secretary David Miliband’s officious attempt to meddle in the internal affairs of Sri Lanka, an erstwhile colony? Possibly in the same way that his lapse on Kashmir was condemned by Indian foreign office sources after he proclaimed that the Kashmir ‘issue’ needed to be resolved in order to curb Islamist terrorism.

After the Sri Lankan Army’s offensive against the LTTE wiped out its top leadership, and perhaps Tamil insurgency on the island nation after almost three decades, Western powers have been trying to mobilise international opinion against the military action by the Lankan Government. The effort is disguised as a human rights initiative, with concern being expressed for the safety of civilians.

Mr Miliband is most vocal in this respect. He speaks of how the Sri Lankan leadership should behave at this juncture: “This is the moment to show that it governs in the interest of all the people of Sri Lanka, not just some of them.” He also wants the military’s conduct to be scrutinised, as too the armed operation against the LTTE. He favours investigation of “serious and credible reports of war crimes,” though adding that there are charges against both sides, and these should be probed.

Such pronouncements have made Mr Miliband even more unpopular in Colombo than after his visit at the end of April when he, along with his French counterpart Bernard Kouchner, tried vainly to pressurise the Lankan Government to call a ceasefire with the Tamil Tiger militants. Sweden’s Foreign Minister Carl Bildt was supposed to have joined this peace mission, but he was denied a visa by Sri Lankan authorities. European Union reacted adversely to this, leading to a diplomatic row.

The British emissary conveyed to Colombo that international calls for a ceasefire were intended to save civilians, not rebels. His visit was followed by a telephone call from British Prime Minister Gordon Brown to Sri Lankan President Mahinda Rajapaksa, reiterating concerns about the plight of civilians but really pressing him to end the offensive. Mr Miliband must qualify as being the most unpopular foreign dignitary to visit the island country, for, even then protestors charged Britain with attempting to protect the militants. A few weeks later, the LTTE was brutally quelled. Celebrations were marked by a burning effigy of the Foreign Secretary being thrown on to the premises of the British High Commission in Colombo. To compound the insult, demonstrators threw rotten eggs and stones into the compound. The placards they carried displayed slogans like “Hands off Sri Lanka, we are not your colony” and “White Tiger”, an obvious allusion to Mr Miliband.

Even the British media’s reporting of the military operation and its aftermath mirrors a colonial, even imperialist bias. To quote from ‘Slaughter in Sri Lanka’, The Times, May 29:

Deeply disappointing was how a human rights group described the vote in the United Nations Human Rights Council, hailing the victory of the Sri Lankan Government. This is a breathtaking understatement. It was an utter disgrace. It was asked by its European members to investigate widespread reports of atrocities and war crimes committed by both Government troops and Tamil Tigers in the final weeks of the conflict. The council chose instead to debate a one-sided, mendacious and self-serving motion put forward by the Sri Lankans. This welcomed the “liberation” of tens of thousands of the island’s citizens, condemned the defeated Tigers, made no mention of the shelling of civilians and kept silent on the desperate need to allow the Red Cross and other humanitarian groups into the camps.

“Support for this deeply flawed resolution came from the usual suspects — China, Russia, India, Pakistan and a clutch of Asian and Islamic nations, determined to prevent the council ever investigating human rights violations in their own country.”

However, an entry on Mr Miliband’s internet site is edifying. Dated April 30, it states: “In the most recent combat operations, the Armed Forces of Sri Lanka have uncovered evidence of UN/NGO complicity with Tamil Tigers — use of equipment, vehicles as well as material and other support. As far as our own BBC complicity with the Tamil Tigers is concerned, it is well-documented and more than evident.”

Another entry states: “Diaspora is worried that if the war is over, they will lose their refugee status. The same diaspora that funded a terrorist outfit.”

The tremendous surge of sympathy in the West for militants who killed former Indian Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi, Sri Lankan and Tamil leaders and thousands of civilians merits an explanation from Mr Miliband and others of his ilk. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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I saw a scientific study,
that per DNA, the sinhalese are 70% tamil, 25% bengali and 5% veddah

and the sri lankan tamils are 85% tamil, 10% bengali and 5 % veddah

and many can pass as one or the other

Also what has been happening since at least 200 BC, is that the sinhalese have been aligning with the Pandyas and intermarrying with them and balancing against the cholas

For the last 1000 years, most sinhalese royalty had a sizeable % of tamil / south Indian blood

The mahavamsa is a toxic document
The sinhalese 'hero' kills in single combat a 70 year old chola king
( some bravery ? )
and in the mahavamsa, the buddhist monk says killing tamils is less sinful than killing animals
The mahavamsa is almost as toxic as the koran, and since it is taught in elementary school, the sinhalese become hard core fanatics


From what I read, every hindu king in Jaffna has been benevolent to the buddhist monks, without any reciprocity

The title of the hindu king of Jaffna was
Arya- Chakravarti

Also within the last 1000 years, several tamil immigrants have been magically transformed into sinhala by converting to buddhism

This also shows the toxic effect of buddhism
For example, Myanmar, Sri lanka and Thailand are semi-democracies / dictatorships

In addition, the buddhist monk celibacy, enstupidates the buddhists
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Interesting.

English translation:

http://lakdiva.org/mahavamsa/
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->When the king, after winning the victory, had slain all the Damilas he went up on the terrace of the palace, and when, in the royal chamber there in the midst of the dancers and ministers, he had sent for Phussadeva's arrow and had set it in the ground with the feathered end uppermost, he covered the dart over and over with kahapanas poured forth upon it, and these he forthwith caused to be given to Phussadeva.

Sitting then on the terrace of the royal palace, adorned, lighted with fragrant lamps and filled with many a perfume, magnificent with nymphs in the guise of dancing-girls, while he rested on his soft and fair couch, covered with costly draperies, he, looking back upon his glorious victory, great though it was, knew no joy, remembering that thereby was wrought the destruction of millions (of beings).

When the arahants in Piyangudipa knew his thought they sent eight arahants to comfort the king. And they, coming in the middle watch of the night, alighted at the palace-gate. Making known that they were come thither through the air they mounted to the terrace of the palace.

The great king greeted them, and when he had invited them to be seated and had done them reverence in many ways he asked the reason of their coming. `We are sent by the brotherhood at Piyangudipa to comfort thee, O lord of men.'

And thereon the king said again to them: `How shall there be any comfort for me, O venerable sirs, since by me was caused the slaughter of a great host numbering millions?'

`From this deed arises no hindrance in thy way to heaven. Only one and a half human beings have been slain here by thee, O lord of men. The one had come unto the (three) refuges, the other had taken on himself the five precepts Unbelievers and men of evil life were the rest, not more to be esteemed than beasts. But as for thee, thou wilt bring glory to the doctrine of the Buddha in manifold ways; therefore cast away care from thy heart, O ruler of men!'

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If it is authentic & not a 19th cent interpolation, it certainly explains the production of Angarika Dhammapala & his shishya's in the 19th cent because it could have been spun the way they wanted to.
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Some lessons to take from this

A separatist insurgency can succeed only with the help of a local regional external power
At the very least, the local hegemon must not be alienated

The 1987 deal was an excellent deal for the tamils
For the sinhalese it represented humiliation,
a sinhalese soldier tried to hit Rajiv with his rifle and thousands of
buddhist monks protested against the Indian intervention

Later in 1999, when the LTTE captured elephant pass,
the same monks came and demonstrated in favor of an Indian intervention
to save their sorry ass

The 1987 deal was accepted by all the other tamil political and militant wings
In 1987, that was the best that India could do at that time, given the decline of the USSR and the rise of the unipolar world

In 1987, the LTTE attacked the IPKF and now they want the same Indian army to save their ass
The LTTE attack on IPKF included attacking Indian military hospitals and doctors
Several dozen captured IPKF soldiers were necklaced
What this has ensured is that the Indian army will mutiny if in future asked to intervene in favor of tamils

Next is conducting assassinations on indian soil
This started alienating TN opinion
The icing on the cake was the assassination of Rajiv
The fear grew in Indian political circles that if ever eelam was established
it would send in assassination squads into India

Next, is association with Tamil Separatist groups in India, such as TNLA,
association with naxals, ULFA, Naxals, ISI, all of which turned Indian establishment super hostile and shut down the flow of weapons from India

LTTE websites earlier used to have maps of Greater Ealam, which includes
most of south India, that this further alarmed the Indian establishment

The rise of the UPA was due to a LTTE brokered deal in 2004 wherein the DMK switched from NDA to UPA
With rise of UPA, it lacked common sense to understand that Sonia given and opportunity would screw it

It failed to understand that Dravidianism is dead in TN, what is alive is caste vote banks and corruption
DMK did not give up its ministerships to save LTTE
At the local level, plenty of TN tamils are alienated by aggressive EJ,
and a force with Soosai ( joseph ), Reagan, Lawrence, Charles Anthony,
John Chelvanayagam, is looked on with suspicion

The congress will always be around with 25% of the vote,
and even NDA could not do business with the assassins of Rajiv
The Indian establishment even during NDA rule was heavily congress

What really turned the tide in the last Ealam war is the Indian navy
putting a cordon around sri lanka and preventing weapons inflow to the LTTE

The Sri Lankan establishment by publicly genuflecting to India, for over 15 years, tried to show themselves as more reliable Indian puppets than the uncontrollable LTTE
Sri Lanka was the only state in 1998, to support the Indian nuke test

I read an article about Mrs.IG training tamil militants in 1983
This was done to encourage them to move to India and be under Indian control ( from 1972 - 1983, they were self-training with PLO in lebanon )
Mrs.IG had promised them Indian help to sizeable autonomy,
Even at this stage, Prabhakaran was warning his Indian trained cadre to be prepared to attack Indian army if they blocked ealam
In 1985, there was an interview with Anita Pratap, and VP, told her that he would have to fight India, because he wanted Ealam, not autonomy

The pre 1983, humiliations and discriminations that the sri lankan tamils faced at the hands of the sinhalese were very similar to what the Indian tamils dished out to the TN brahmins ( with less violence in TN )
I dont see why the Jaffna tamils were complaining about marks standardisation ( adding marks to students from sinhalese provinces )
while Indian tamils had 70% reservation

B.Raman writes , that if Jaffna tamils are asked their religion, they say
Saivite, not hindu

The Jaffna tamils considered the Indian tamils of the plantations as low caste and supported the sinhalese in disenfranchising them

The Jaffna tamil mentality in many ways is similar to Indian muslim Ashraf mentality, a sense of entitlement and superiority

As far as the LTTE defeating the IPKF,
first of all unlike the barbarous Sri Lankan army, the IPKF fought with restraints and slowly cornered the LTTE into 30 square miles of Vanni Jungle
Free elections were held and LTTE was a few months away from total defeat
The Jaffna tamils called the IPKF as Innocent people killing force
They dont know how good they had to have the civilised Indian army
unlike the barbarous sinhalese army
In Jaffna tamil websites they called Indian army as racists and rapists
While there are always some bad apples, IMHO, the multicultural Indian army is better behaved than western armies
Now they wanted the same racist and rapist army to save their asses



In 1989, The LTTE took shelter in sinhalese areas and got weapons from Premadasa
The LTTE and Premadasa both wanted the Indians out
Each thought that they could win totally

In war, sometimes you lose, LTTE forgot that
By always going for an all or nothing, they got nothing
Vae victis,

I read an interview with Thondaman, the leader of the Indian tamils
He said that he uses trade unionist methods by raising some issues now and other issues in a few years and gets step by step concessions
whereas the Jaffna tamils think like lawyers and they assemble facts and demand full satisfaction immediately

Finally at the core, this is a buddhist crusade against hindus
This started before LTTE, and VHP etc, must reconsider how they view buddhism
Same has happened to hindus in Myanmar, Bhutan ( Mahayana )
Because buddhism in practise is very political and the gay buddhist monks are as feral as gay catholic monks
The classic Indian history which shows hindus as bad and buddhists as good is clearly wrong.
The bakthi movement against buddhism was a grassroots effort

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<!--QuoteBegin-Bharatvarsh+Jun 7 2009, 06:46 PM-->QUOTE(Bharatvarsh @ Jun 7 2009, 06:46 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-G.Subramaniam+Jun 7 2009, 11:53 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(G.Subramaniam @ Jun 7 2009, 11:53 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->in the mahavamsa, the buddhist monk says killing tamils is less sinful than killing animals[right][snapback]98435[/snapback][/right]
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Interesting.

English translation:

http://lakdiva.org/mahavamsa/
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->When the king, after winning the victory, had slain all the Damilas he went up on the terrace of the palace, and when, in the royal chamber there in the midst of the dancers and ministers, he had sent for Phussadeva's arrow and had set it in the ground with the feathered end uppermost, he covered the dart over and over with kahapanas poured forth upon it, and these he forthwith caused to be given to Phussadeva.

Sitting then on the terrace of the royal palace, adorned, lighted with fragrant lamps and filled with many a perfume, magnificent with nymphs in the guise of dancing-girls, while he rested on his soft and fair couch, covered with costly draperies, he, looking back upon his glorious victory, great though it was, knew no joy, remembering that thereby was wrought the destruction of millions (of beings).

When the arahants in Piyangudipa knew his thought they sent eight arahants to comfort the king. And they, coming in the middle watch of the night, alighted at the palace-gate. Making known that they were come thither through the air they mounted to the terrace of the palace.

The great king greeted them, and when he had invited them to be seated and had done them reverence in many ways he asked the reason of their coming. `We are sent by the brotherhood at Piyangudipa to comfort thee, O lord of men.'

And thereon the king said again to them: `How shall there be any comfort for me, O venerable sirs, since by me was caused the slaughter of a great host numbering millions?'

`From this deed arises no hindrance in thy way to heaven. Only one and a half human beings have been slain here by thee, O lord of men. The one had come unto the (three) refuges, the other had taken on himself the five precepts Unbelievers and men of evil life were the rest, not more to be esteemed than beasts. But as for thee, thou wilt bring glory to the doctrine of the Buddha in manifold ways; therefore cast away care from thy heart, O ruler of men!'

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If it is authentic & not a 19th cent interpolation, it certainly explains the production of Angarika Dhammapala & his shishya's in the 19th cent because it could have been spun the way they wanted to.
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Even the Mahavamsa says that Elara was a just ruler and generous to the buddhist religion
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http://countrystudies.us/sri-lanka/6.htm

Dutthagamani is the outstanding hero of the Mahavamsa, and his war against Elara is sometimes depicted in contemporary accounts as a major racial confrontation between Tamils and Sinhalese. A less biased and more factual interpretation, according to Sri Lankan historian K.M. de Silva, must take into consideration the large reserve of support Elara had among the Sinhalese.

The Tamil threat to the Sinhalese Buddhist kingdoms had become very real in the fifth and sixth centuries A.D. Three Hindu empires in southern India--the Pandya, Pallava, and Chola-- were becoming more assertive. The Sinhalese perception of this threat intensified because in India, Buddhism--vulnerable to pressure and absorption by Hinduism--had already receded. Tamil ethnic and religious consciousness also matured during this period. In terms of culture, language, and religion, the Tamils had identified themselves as Dravidian, Tamil, and Hindu, respectively.

In the seventh century A.D., Tamil influence became firmly embedded in the island's culture when Sinhalese Prince Manavamma seized the throne with Pallava assistance. The dynasty that Manavamma established was heavily indebted to Pallava patronage and continued for almost three centuries. During this time, Pallava influence extended to architecture and sculpture, both of which bear noticeable Hindu motifs.

By the middle of the ninth century, the Pandyans had risen to a position of ascendancy in southern India, invaded northern Sri Lanka, and sacked Anuradhapura. The Pandyans demanded an indemnity as a price for their withdrawal. Shortly after the Pandyan departure, however, the Sinhalese invaded Pandya in support of a rival prince, and the Indian city of Madurai was sacked in the process.

In the tenth century, the Sinhalese again sent an invading army to India, this time to aid the Pandyan king against the Cholas. The Pandyan king was defeated and fled to Sri Lanka, carrying with him the royal insignia. The Chola, initially under Rajaraja the Great (A.D 985-1018), were impatient to recapture the royal insignia; they sacked Anuradhapura in A.D. 993 and annexed Rajarata--the heartland of the Sinhalese kingdom--to the Chola Empire. King Mahinda V, the last of the Sinhalese monarchs to rule from Anuradhapura, fled to Rohana, where he reigned until 1017, when the Chola took him prisoner. He subsequently died in India in 1029.
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Above URL

Parakramabahu's reign was not only a time of Buddhist renaissance but also a period of religious expansionism abroad. Parakramabahu was powerful enough to send a punitive mission against the Burmese for their mistreatment of a Sri Lankan mission in 1164. The Sinhalese monarch also meddled extensively in Indian politics and invaded southern India in several unsuccessful expeditions to aid a Pandyan claimant to the throne.

For the decade following Parakramabahu's death, however, a period of peace and stability ensued during the reign of King Nissankamalla (A.D. 1187-97). During Nissankamalla's rule, the Brahmanic legal system came to regulate the Sinhalese caste system. Henceforth, the highest caste stratum became identified with the cultivator caste, and land ownership conferred high status. Occupational caste became hereditary and regulated dietary and marriage codes. At the bottom of the caste strata was the Chandala, who corresponded roughly to the Indian untouchable. It was during this brief period that it became mandatory for the Sinhalese king to be a Buddhist.
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Sinhalese Migration to the South

After Nissankamalla's death, a series of dynastic disputes hastened the breakup of the kingdom of Polonnaruwa. Domestic instability characterized the ensuing period, and incursions by Chola and Pandyan invaders created greater turbulence, culminating in a devastating campaign by the Kalinga, an eastern Indian dynasty. When Magha, the Kalinga king, died in 1255, another period of instability began, marking the beginning of the abandonment of Polonnaruwa and the Sinhalese migration to the southwest from the northern dry zone.

During the thirteenth century, the declining Sinhalese kingdom faced threats of invasion from India and the expanding Tamil kingdom of northern Sri Lanka. Taking advantage of Sinhalese weakness, the Tamils secured control of the valuable pearl fisheries around Jaffna Peninsula. During this time, the vast stretches of jungle that cover north-central Sri Lanka separated the Tamils and the Sinhalese. This geographical separation had important psychological and cultural implications. The Tamils in the north developed a more distinct and confident culture, backed by a resurgent Hinduism that looked to the traditions of southern India for its inspiration. Conversely, the Sinhalese were increasingly restricted to the southern and central area of the island and were fearful of the more numerous Tamils on the Indian mainland. The fact that the Hindu kingdom at Jaffna was expending most of its military resources resisting the advances of the expansionist Vijayanagara Empire (1336-1565) in India enhanced the Sinhalese ability to resist further Tamil encroachments. Some historians maintain that it was the arrival of the Portuguese in the sixteenth century that prevented the island from being overrun by south Indians.

Portuguese missionaries had also been busily involving themselves in the affairs of the Tamil kingdom at Jaffna, converting almost the entire island of Mannar to Roman Catholicism by 1544. The reaction of Sangily, king of Jaffna, however, was to lead an expedition to Mannar and decapitate the resident priest and about 600 of his congregation. The king of Portugal took this as a personal affront and sent several expeditions against Jaffna. The Portuguese, having disposed of the Tamil king who fled south, installed one of the Tamil princes on the throne, obliging him to pay an annual tribute. In 1619 Lisbon annexed the Kingdom of Jaffna.
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The pre 1983, humiliations and discriminations that the sri lankan tamils faced at the hands of the sinhalese were very similar to what the Indian tamils dished out to the TN brahmins ( with less violence in TN )
I dont see why the Jaffna tamils were complaining about marks standardisation ( adding marks to students from sinhalese provinces )
while Indian tamils had 70% reservation

B.Raman writes , that if Jaffna tamils are asked their religion, they say
Saivite, not hindu

The Jaffna tamils considered the Indian tamils of the plantations as low caste and supported the sinhalese in disenfranchising them<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
True about reservation but the difference is that Jaffna Tamils were not part of India & had nothing to do with reservation politics in TN. Even Tambrams complained about the reservations back in the day, the difference is that they got away with humiliations & random attacks instead of outright massacres as happened in Lanka.

The moron B. Raman writes a lot of things including constantly blaming Babri demolition as some excuse for bombings & riots so he is not exactly a reliable source.

The last seems to be correct, wasn't it Ponnambalam who supported the disenfranchisement?

As for the Indian army, i am not so sure after I saw what happened in Jammu where so many Hindus were shot dead by this "multicultural" army which only finds fault with tilaks & rakhis but not pagris among sikhs or other religious symbols.

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<!--QuoteBegin-Bharatvarsh+Jun 7 2009, 10:31 PM-->QUOTE(Bharatvarsh @ Jun 7 2009, 10:31 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The pre 1983, humiliations and discriminations that the sri lankan tamils faced at the hands of the sinhalese were very similar to what the Indian tamils dished out to the TN brahmins ( with less violence in TN )
I dont see why the Jaffna tamils were complaining about marks standardisation ( adding marks to students from sinhalese provinces )
while Indian tamils had 70% reservation

B.Raman writes , that if Jaffna tamils are asked their religion, they say
Saivite, not hindu

The Jaffna tamils considered the Indian tamils of the plantations as low caste and supported the sinhalese in disenfranchising them<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
True about reservation but the difference is that Jaffna Tamils were not part of India & had nothing to do with reservation politics in TN. Even Tambrams complained about the reservations back in the day, the difference is that they got away with humiliations & random attacks instead of outright massacres as happened in Lanka.

The moron B. Raman writes a lot of things including constantly blaming Babri demolition as some excuse for bombings & riots so he is not exactly a reliable source.

The last seems to be correct, wasn't it Ponnambalam who supported the disenfranchisement?

As for the Indian army, i am not so sure after I saw what happened in Jammu where so many Hindus were shot dead by this "multicultural" army which only finds fault with tilaks & rakhis but not pagris among sikhs or other religious symbols.
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The sinhalese wanted to disenfranchise the Indian tamils and Ponnambalam supported them since he despised as low caste, the Indian tamils

Per my understanding, ( Jamwal in BRF ) almost no hindus in Jammu were shot by Indian army, since they were raising pro-army slogans

Incidentally, the DMK and John Chelvanayagam had very close ties

Incidentally, the economy of Sri Lanka is screwed,
they have 25% inflation

In addition to dissuade any future Indian intervention, Rajapakse is raising army strength from 2 lakh to 3 lakh ( out of 12 mil sinhalese )

60% of their exports is textiles to EU and USA
I expect the west to squeeze this

Even with peace, it cant have BPO etc,
since as part of the anti-tamil drive, back in 1956, english was removed as medium of instruction ( tamils were more fluent in english )
In addition, they have driven away the higher IQ Jaffna tamils and the sinhalese buddhists are dumb as stone, thanks to the dysgenic effects of buddhism

The correct way to defuse this is to hollow out buddhism
In the last 20 years, hindu temples are coming up in sinhalese areas
and lots of sinhalese now visit hindu temples
and much of the sinhalese political leadership is followers of Sai baba, Sri Sri etc



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In 1986, Jayawardene asked Deng to invade India to reduce pressure
and Deng refused

( John Garver )
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WIKI

The Nayaks of Kandy (a.k.a. Nayakar Dynasty) were the rulers of Sri Lanka with Kandy as their capital from 1739 to 1815. They were also the last dynasty to rule Sri Lanka. They were from the royal family of the Madurai Nayak dynasty, who were of Telugu origin and were members of the the Balija caste/(Kapu Caste/Telaga. There were four kings of this lineage and the last king was exiled by the British to Vellore Fort in India. They assumed the Kandy throne through marriage alliances with the much prevailing Marumakkathayam law. These kings were Hindus later converted to Buddhism


The Mahanuwara dynasty that preceded the Kandy Nayaks always married brides from royal family of Madurai Nayaks and Tanjore Nayaks. The Nayaks of South India started of as governors of Vijayanagara Dynasty during 14 and 15th centuries who ruled parts of Tamil Nadu. After the Vijayanagara Empire collapsed in mid 16th century these governors declared independence, establishing their own kingdoms in Gingee, Tanjore, Madurai and Chandragiri. They were of Telugu origins, one of the reasons for a large set of Telugu population in Western parts of Tamil Nadu.

When the last king of Mahanuwara dynasty died without an heir, his queens brother from Madurai was chosen to throne as they followed the Marumakkathayam law. And successive kings were from the same kin from Madurai.

The Nayaks of South India also had military relations in 17th century when Karaiyar generals of Jaffna sought the support of the Nayaks of Tanjavur in 1620 to fight against the Portuguese.

These branches of Madurai Nayaks were reportedly headed by Bangaru Thirumalai whose son was adopted by the last Nayak Queen Meenakshi. Bangaru Thirumalai was a direct descendant of Thirumalai Nayaks younger Brother and was a Military governor in Tirunelveli and Madurai provinces.

The last king of Kandy of Mahanuwara dynasty was Vira Narendra Sinha who ruled from 1707 to 1739. This King ascended the throne in 1707 when he was seventeen and was considered to be a very pious and scholarly. In 1708 the king married a bride from Madurai Royal family, the daughter of Pitti Nayakkar. Again, in 1710, he married another bride from Madurai. He had no children by either of the queens. He also had a Kandyan wife from noble family of Matale. She bore him a son, the king also had a concubine from a high caste, who bore him a son named Unambuwe, and did survive. The bar to his succession was the lack of royal status in the mother.

Thus, the king nominated, as his successor, the brother of his first queen who had remained at the court ever since his sister married him. According to the law of succession that prevailed in Ceylon, the throne passed almost always from father to son, born of a mahesi or from brother to brother. Marumakkathayam literarily means inheritance by sister's children (as opposed to sons and daughters).
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http://www.buddhachannel.tv/portail/spip...rticle5355

Summary: Joint Committee of Buddhist Organizations says Inter Religious Council a farce
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From BRF

excerpt from Mahavamsa

I use the word racism in a simplistic sense. Racism has been used in terms of colour bar based racism and even those elements are there. I grew up with and romanticised Duttagemunu for example. I’m a history romantic. And I grew up to love reading Dennis Clark’s Golden Island, which is a children’s book about Duttagemunu. I would still love my children to read that, although you can see the racism there. The Tamils were dark or black skinned and the Sinhalese were the golden-skinned race. I remember, as a boy Duttagemunu refused to think of himself as betrothed to the daughter of the Tamil king. Why? Because she was black!
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