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Bharath,



I have downloaded the wav files from the 'power tapes' page, as well as



The Raja-Radia Tapes



The Kanimozhi-Radia Tapes



The Vir Sanghvi- Niira Radia Tapes



The Ratan Tata, Barkha Dutt & Other Tapes

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[quote name='dhu' date='19 November 2010 - 08:40 PM' timestamp='1290227566' post='109322']

Bharath,



I have downloaded the wav files from the 'power tapes' page, as well as



The Raja-Radia Tapes



The Kanimozhi-Radia Tapes



The Vir Sanghvi- Niira Radia Tapes



The Ratan Tata, Barkha Dutt & Other Tapes

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thanks a ton Dhu ji. Just now Raghavendra ji in BRF has posted saying all the Kanimozhi tapes have been downloaded. let's start putting them in a central repository. Any ideas on putting them in some common site?

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dhu,

Is it possible to upload them on youtube.

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All recordings



MM is Manoj Modi

Ganu is G. Ganapathy Subramaniam of the ET

MDA: Mukesh Dhirubhai Ambani

The file-names below are as in the CD handed over to the Supreme Court.



Please allow a few seconds to elapse before the recordings begin.



http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?268069

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[quote name='Bharath' date='20 November 2010 - 06:58 AM' timestamp='1290216023' post='109319']

A request for people who undestand QuickTime & downloading nuances. Can anyone download all those tapes in Outlook website to their machine? There is fear in twitter that Sundeep Dougal & Vinod Mehta of Outlook might be pressured to remove them.





Below outlook link has the audio tapes:



[url="http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?268069"]



"http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?268069"

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I am able to download in my Hard drive using Chrome browser. Just right click on red color file name, click on save as link..., it will save.

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Transcript related to Sonia and Rahul

http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?268066

[Capt M Kumar]

देहरादून।। 2 जी स्पेक्ट्रम घोटाले में पीएम को मुश्किलों में घेरने के बात जनता पार्टी के अध्यक्ष सुब्रमण्यम स्वामी ने अब अपने हमले का रुख कांग्रेस अध्यक्ष सोनिया गांधी की ओर मोड़ दिया है। उन्होंने आरोप लगाया कि 1.75 लाख करोड़ रुपये के 2-जी स्पेक्ट्रम घोटाले में 60 हजार करोड़ रुपये रिश्वत बांटी गई, जिसमें चार लोग हिस्सेदार थे। इस घूस में सोनिया गांधी की दो बहनों का हिस्सा 30-30 % है। हालांकि, उन्होंने अपने दावे को पुख्ता करने के लिए कोई दस्तावेज उपलब्ध नहीं करवाया। http://navbharattimes.indiatimes.com/art...963146.cms

min translation: Subramanyan Swamy says that Sonia has taken bribe in 2G thru her sisters!

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Spoke to couple of people, they are saying all related to Sonia, Rahul and Priyank is not released, only jumping jack tapes are out. They are saying, not a big deal , she will saved by Ambanis and Tata.

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Just keep it in mind, home ministry had started this taping, appointed PM of India's son-in-law is in second position in Home Ministry, just below Chiddu. So this will keep check 10 Numberi and her family.

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[url="http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/qa-subramanian-swamy-janata-party-chief/415611/"]Q&A: Subramanian Swamy, Janata Party chief[/url]

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Burkha Dutt calls people of Gujarat as effete, that is why they like Narendra Modi:



http://www.newspostindia.com/2010-11-20-...ple-on-air

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[color="#FF0000"]Looking at some post by some joker Shankk in a off site thread on 2g now devoloved into a general discussion of "corruption"[/color]

People behave only in two situations. Either when they are afraid of law or when they are afraid of God.

[color="#FF0000"]This is the first indication that of a monotheist mindset -- coercion or some other "reason" is the cause of action. as opposed to Gita where all things act as a matter of course.. Furthermore, deviation from the "law" is described as the the cause of disorder.. actually this description is just a restatement of the fact that there is disorder in society, nothing is explained causally but it is just perfect for 'libel' (Cioran) against the society[/color]

Now the problem is people are not uniformly afraid of law. [color="#FF0000"]<uniformity.. another indication of monotheist mindset>>[/color] Only the weaker section is afraid of law and the powerful ones have ways to bend the laws to suit their interests.[color="#FF0000"]<consequence of deviation from the 'law'>[/color] In the hierarchy [color="#FF0000"]<consequence of deviation from the 'law' is named..getting closer to pure monotheism>>[/color] of society as the power increases fear of law decreases. There are various shades of this in between. [color="#FF0000"]<two poles are the true reality and the "in-between" is the detail graciously conceded>[/color]Hence law will not be able to uniformly make people behave. [color="#FF0000"]<failure of the people to conform to 'law'>[/color]It is important to motivate the people to see how beneficial it is for them to get rid of corruption. [color="#FF0000"]<as if people are morons>[/color]Nothing much will happen without the support of masses. [color="#FF0000"]<another gracious concession>[/color]One way to do that is to instill the fear of God. [color="#FF0000"]<jai ho.. enter the savior>[/color]This is where religion as an instrument comes into picture. [color="#FF0000"]<utilitarian explanation>[/color]Unfortunately I have to say that the religion of majority Indians that is Hinduism fails miserably on this front. [color="#FF0000"]<the mask comes off.. from the initial faked stance of inquiry, the discussion quickly turns into libel>[/color]Allow me to explain.[color="#FF0000"]<of course>[/color]



I will start with anecdotal experience of myself and my friends. [color="#FF0000"]<parable alert>[/color]While growing up I did not have business acumen (neither do I have now) but still ventured into selling petty stuff then. All my impression of business was that it is all about corruption and cheating others to make a gain for ourselves. This was picked up from the surrounding, from the perception of older friends or family members etc. I bought some stuff from the market then padded it with paper and sold it to others to make less than five rupees. Now it sounds really really stupid but at that time it was a triumph of doing business or in other words indulging in corruption as that was the idea of business. I was too young (in school at the time), too naive, too stupid then but growing up discussions between friends continued. A friend of mine openly and shamelessly supported corruption and declared that he do not see it as wrong but rather just a necessary evil. Now we all are grown up and recently when he bought a new car we went on a joy ride and at an intersection where other vehicles were stopped he found a small space on the side and brazenly crossed the red light and fled. I was sitting next to him and was aghast. As if that was not enough he turned to me with smile on his face and a sparkle in his eyes and pointed backwards to vehicles stopped at the light and said they are loosers for stopping at the light. I was speechless. All this happened in one of the Indian metros. It taught me that there is no fear of law. This guy is far from being an elite and still sees no reason to behave. [color="#FF0000"]<so this is the ghastly narrative; thankfully no entry by kalawati>[/color]

Now you guys can choose to brush this all aside . [color="#FF0000"]<gracious concession>[/color]saying I was raised in a dysfunctional environment but that is certainly not the case. At least some of you must have experienced similar incidences while growing up. . [color="#FF0000"]<outreach>[/color]Many of the people who may be corrupt in certain cases or certain phases of life are successful in contemporary terms of the word. Being corrupt did not hinder their success instead helped them in certain cases. So what is the harm in corruption? Just use the same trick and more successful you get. . [color="#FF0000"]<struggling to define the problem>[/color]The more powerful you become the more corruption you can afford to do and even more successful you become.

Coming back to original theme of this post it is all about lack of fear of law or God. . [color="#FF0000"]<notice these are interchangeable>[/color]As I realized that the rot is not limited to elites I started thinking about the reasons of such a case. . [color="#FF0000"]<searching>[/color] What can cause such a problem on such a massive scale? . [color="#FF0000"]<a meta-problem is posed, no consideration that Gandhi era freedom fighters by and large had a completely opposite mentality to that ushered in the secular Indira and Nehru-Gandhi clan >[/color]Answer is, it is either wrong training or the lack of training. . [color="#FF0000"]<another non-explanation, in this case the rubric of behavioralism is used to solve the false dilemma>[/color] At this point it was clear to me that I was part of the second group. <failed by one’s ancestors>My training was limited to what I got in school that too only initial years and training from my parents. Besides this I was like a raw animal left in this world to learn on my own from my experiences. [color="#FF0000"]<yearning for savior who does not tolerate the random>[/color] It takes a lot of courage to be morally uptight. How do one get that courage? It was all left on me to figure out. Later as I witnessed [color="#FF0000"]<witness and affirmation of the false dilemma>[/color]it was the same case with my relatives and friends. Learn yourself and make yourself.

A lot of people face this problem but then they are left to the mercy of their luck. Those fortunate enough to get right associations and experiences turn into good human beings and some unfortunate ones turn into criminals. Majority of people fall between these two extremes. As relevant to this thread, various shades of corruption. [color="#FF0000"]<entire existence is that of corruption, shades of original sin>[/color]In my case after around 7th standard in school it was all about competition, studying maths & science, earning good scores etc. My training was mostly focused on that. Making me a good human being was then left to my parents or on myself. [color="#FF0000"]<formal versus informal, legitimate versus illegitimate>[/color]I wonder how many BRFites got a formal training [color="#FF0000"]<get certification by colonizer agent>[/color]after their school years on not judging people or not being too greedy or how to gain courage to become morally strong. [color="#FF0000"]<moral education as opposed to experience>[/color] Please note the emphasis on formal training and discount the learning by experience. [color="#FF0000"]<disclaimer to show sensitivity, always>[/color]Learning by experience is not inferior but the problem with it is that it is not uniform and produces very uneven results. There is no pattern between people that is required to create a cohesive society. [color="#FF0000"]<the ought is already implemented>[/color]

Now interesting question is "Is this the case everywhere"? Answer I found was "Certainly not". There are better ways of training or polishing the the people mainly younger generation to make them successful without making them think that tedhi ungli is the only way to get ghee. In my pursuit of finding the solution one day had a unique opportunity. [color="#FF0000"]<teenage prophet searching for solution>[/color]Got an invitation to join the Church. [color="#FF0000"]<cold water in face of the onlooker>[/color] I went ahead and joined and found a distinct difference between my experience in Hindu temples and the church. [color="#FF0000"]<of course>[/color]The preacher was very good in explaining the Bible and relating it todays world. There were many lessons I learnt that I wished I had learnt much earlier. To give one quick example he preached about why thoughts should be watched and how thoughts leads to actions, actions lead to habits and habits leads to character. [color="#FF0000"]<virtue ethics>[/color]I had some ideas about it earlier too but nobody had taught that to me formally. [color="#FF0000"]<prodigal child>[/color]There were many such lessons to learn. Also it made a lot difference due to me being well grown up now and have plenty of experience to back me. What I had to learn on my own hard way during my younger years was being repeatedly taught to kids day in and day out.

My apologies for a ridiculously long post, so I will wind up quickly...that church experience lasted for quite a while and then gradually ended. Apart from all the nice teachings, it involved political tones including current day politics which made me very uncomfortable. The final straw was when the preacher supported smuggling Bible in Iraq and urged everybody to get together and support the cause in whatever they can. So all the good training was accompanied with "this" training as well. In short my initial enthusiasm turned into disappointment and also realized that there is no magic in making a society else many countries with a majority following specific ideology [color="#FF0000"]<has accepted subdivision and identification of peoples by “ideology”>[/color]would be flawless but are far from it.

On a side note, as I moved on, I found some Hindu institutions as well that provide formal training about these ideas but unfortunately are not as mainstream as the Church is so they are just an extended version of school or parent training in that it is limited to only those who seek for it as opposed to the active participation sought by the Church.

Finally want to summarize my finding that we are what we are trained to be. All the strengths and weaknesses of "The West" and the "Arabic Peninsula" is due to the training their population got. [color="#FF0000"]<enter bahaviorialism again>[/color]It is up to us to learn from others and pick up and implement good ideas from where ever we get otherwise future generations of BRFites will repeat todays BR spirit "WE ARE LIKE THAT ONLEE".

[color="#FF0000"]End result is that colonial and neocolonial intrigues have been overshadowed by all pervasive societal problem that is "corruption"[/color]

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[url="http://www.hindustantimes.com/Home-Ministry-official-arrested-for-leaking-sensitive-information/H1-Article1-629695.aspx"]Home Ministry official arrested for leaking sensitive information[/url]

Singh was later arrested. A Home Ministry source said Singh was passing sensitive information to commercial firms in connection with security clearance. The officer has been under surveillance for about a month.

When Indian Embassies can help criminals linked with Congress, this Babu is doing his job, looting India.

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Parliament impasse: All-party meet comes a cropper

November 23, 2010 8:00:12 AM [url="http://www.dailypioneer.com/298304/Parliament-impasse-All-party-meet-comes-a-cropper.html"] link[/url]

IANS | New Delhi

Congress leader Pranab Mukherjee's effort to resolve the deadlock over a joint parliamentary committee (JPC) probe into the 2G spectrum allotment scam failed Monday with the opposition rejecting the government's proposal to increase the powers of the public accounts committee (PAC).



"The stalemate continues," Rashtriya Lok Dal (RLD) leader Ajit Singh said after the all-party meeting with Mukherjee.



The logjam persisted as the opposition did not agree to a government proposal to empower the PAC with a multi-disciplinary committee involving representatives from some investigative agencies.



The Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG) has indicted A. Raja, who resigned as communications minister over the scandal, and said his policies could have caused [color="#FF0000"][size="5"]a loss of up to Rs.1.76 lakh crore ($40 billion) to the exchequer[/size].[/color]



Parliament's winter session that began Nov 9 has witnessed repeated adjournments over the opposition's insistence for a JPC probe into the scam, even after Raja, who was at the heart of the controversy, resigned.

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[url="http://www.dailypioneer.com/298454/Doubting-Thomas.html"]Doubting Thomas[/url]

It is increasingly becoming untenable for Mr PJ Thomas to continue in office as the Central Vigilance Commissioner. On Monday, a Bench of the Supreme Court comprising Chief Justice SH Kapadia and Justices KS Radhakrishnan and Swatanter Kumar made scathing comments on the UPA Government’s decision to appoint Mr Thomas as the CVC, virtually raising a big question mark on his suitability for the post. It is common knowledge that Mr Thomas was named as one of the officials and politicians involved in the palm oil import scandal, better known as the palmolein scam. While it is true that the case is still pending in the courts and it would be unfair to declare him guilty in the absence of a judicial verdict, it cannot be wished away that as of now his record as an IAS officer is neither free of blemish nor unimpeachable. The Opposition had pointed out this aspect when the Government had proposed his name, along with the names of two others, for the CVC’s job. But rather than arrive at a decision through proper consultation with the Leader of the Opposition, which is the prescribed norm, the Government chose to force its nominee on the nation. This need not have been so; the other two officers on the panel had far better records to their credit. No less significant is the fact that Mr Thomas, as Telecom Secretary, had sought to ward off a CVC inquiry into the 2G Spectrum scam — in other words, he had tried to keep the scandal and then Telecom Minister A Raja’s shenanigans under wraps. Surely a bureaucrat who saw nothing wrong with the public exchequer being deprived of Rs 1.76 lakh crore cannot be trusted with ensuring probity in Government. Hence, his credentials are not only suspect but entirely unsuitable for the office of CVC; he is undeserving of this honour and is more than likely to fail in his primary responsibility.

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[url="http://www.hindustantimes.com/Sex-cash-for-secrets-MHA-mole-held/H1-Article1-630225.aspx"]Sex, cash for secrets: MHA mole held[/url]

The businessman has been trying to fix a "deal" with a telecom company on behalf of Singh for providing security-

related information from the ministry in return for a few crores rupees, a home ministry official said.



The company's application related to security clearance in connection with Mobile Number Portability was pending with the ministry.



Though Singh was not in a position to give security clearance to any company, he could have facilitated such clearance by giving favourable inputs to higher officials, the official said.

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Home Ministry officials said Singh was using five mobile phones -- some of which were found in possession of the arrested businessman - while making conversation. He was also using coded words like 'prasad' and 'laddu' for describing money.



Investigators have found that the officer was not only allegedly seeking money but sexual favour too in return for providing security-related information of corporate houses, the sources said.



Singh was also reportedly using coded words "software" and "hardware" in reference to women and hotel rooms.

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[url="http://www.hindustantimes.com/Agencies-probe-2G-house-loan-scam-link/H1-Article1-631075.aspx"]Agencies probe 2G, house loan scam link[/url]

A key question investigating agencies are examining is whether two of the biggest scams in this season of scams — the R1.76 lakh crore 2G spectrum scam and the housing loan scam, for which top bankers were arrested on Wednesday — are linked. At least nine companies that were awarded telecom licences and 2G spectrum are not-so-well-known property developers, some of whom never had anything to do with telecom before.



Each of these companies furnished bank guarantees worth R1,600 crore in a matter of 45 minutes on January 10, 2008. Some of these real estate companies that got 2G licences neither had the required paid-up capital, nor had they incorporated telecom-related business in their memorandum of association. “If they didn’t have adequate paid-up capital, how could they organise so much money at such short notice,” an official who did not wish to be identified rhetorically asked Hindustan Times.



Did this money come from the housing loan scam unearthed by the CBI on Wednesday, in which officials of public sector banks and home loan companies dished out loans to ineligible real estate firms after allegedly accepting bribes.



The comptroller and auditor general has estimated that 2G spectrum was granted at throwaway prices, robbing the government of R176,000 crore of potential revenue.



These companies also didn’t satisfy the technical and financial eligibility conditions prescribed by the Department of Telecom.



In particular, investigators are examining the transactions of the DB group — a corporate group that investigators believe is promoted by a Maratha strongman — that holds a 45% stake in telecom company Etisalat DB.



DB Realty is among the major housing developers that seem to have received funds from housing finance companies, contravening existing norms.



Sources in the CBI said they are also looking into the possibility that investment firm Money Matters — three of whose executives, including chairman and managing director Rajesh Sharma, were arrested too along with the bankers — may have helped some companies raise money to get into the telecom sector

Another scam.

This government will break world record in scam. Everyday new scam.

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[url="http://www.rediff.com/business/slide-show/slide-show-1-lichf-chief-arrested-in-huge-housing-scam-now/20101124.htm"]A huge housing scam now! LICHF chief arrested[/url]

The Central Bureau of Investigation on Wednesday arrested the chief executive officer of LIC Housing Finance Ramachandran Nair and seven others, including three top officials of public sector banks, in connection with an alleged multi-crore housing finance racket.



Apart from Nair, those arrested are Naresh K Chopra, secretary (investment), LIC; R N Tayal, general manager of Bank of India (Delhi); Maninder Singh Johar, director (chartered accountant) of Central Bank of India; and Venkoba Gujjal, deputy general manager, Punjab National Bank (Delhi).



Rajesh Sharma, chairman and managing director of Mumbai-based firm Money Matters Ltd and two of its employees -- Suresh Gattani and Sanjay Sharma-- were also among those arrested, CBI said. Money Matters was allegedly acting as a middleman for loans.



The CBI has asked for a 15-day remand for those arrested in the case.



The officials allegedly colluded with the firm to sanction large scale corporate loans, overriding mandatory conditions for such approvals along with other irregularities.



The Union finance ministry, meanwhile, said it would explore the possibility of instituting a departmental inquiry into the housing finance racket that led to arrest of senior officials of the LIC Housing Finance and public sector bank

Housing scam involves Rs 42,750 cr

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LATEST INDIAN SCAMS WITH THEIR WORTH OR PRICE



india can be appropriately renamed as 'scamia'.



01. 2G spectrum worth 1.69 lakh crores

02. CWG games fiasco in thousands crores

03. Madhu Koda CM jharkhand scam worth 8000 crores

04. IPL ghotala worth lakhs of crores

05. National games continuous delay worth crores

06. Satyam fiasco worth crores

07. ULIP insurance scam

08. Bofors weapons sabottage

09. Dairy animal chaaraa ghotaala

10. Stamp papers scams

11. Urea Scam

12. Kargil and Coffin Scam

13. Emaar Scam

14. Prostition and Sex Racket Scam

15. Kashmir Sex Racket Scam

16. Babri and Ram Mandir Scam

17. Land Acquistion Scams on name of dubious industries

18. Profident Fund Scam -> Current judges

19. Animal Fodder Scam

20. Ketan Parek Scam

21. Bansali Scam

22. Shoes Scam by Rafique Tejani and Daya

23. Nagarjuna Finance Scam

24. Dalmia Scam

25. UTI Scam

26. Uday Goyal Scam

27. Sanjay Agrawal Scam

28. LIC insurance scam

29. Kargil and Coffin Scam

30. Urea Scam

31. Adarsh society,

32. Harshad Mehta Scam

33.SuflamSujlam scam

34.Nano land of sanad scam.

35.Extortion racket of Gujart.

36.Advani Hawala...

37.Bangaroo laxman collecting funds for bjp..

38.KabutarBaji scam by Babubhai katara.

39.sanjay Joshi... Cd kand..

40.swiss bank account scam

41. Global Trust bank scam

42. Charminar Bank scam

43. Vasavi Bank scam.

44. Reddy brother's bellary mining scam

45. YSR land purchase in CA

46. Tirupati manuscript sale to US buyer by Babus/politician in AP

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[url="http://www.dailypioneer.com/299308/Something-rotten-in-Allahabad-High-Court-SC.html"]Something rotten in Allahabad High Court: SC[/url]

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"Something is rotten in the State of Denmark, said Shakespeare in Hamlet, and it can similarly be said that something is rotten in the Allahabad High Court," said a bench of justices Markandey Katju and Gyan Sudha Mishra, adding the high court "really needs some house cleaning".



The bench also asked the chief justice of the high court to take some strong measures, including recommending "transfers of the incorrigibles".



It made the observation in a 12-page order, while making the insinuation that several judges of the high court suffer from 'uncle judge' syndrome, which refers to judges passing favourable orders for parties represented by lawyers known to them.



The bench flew into a rage while scrapping a single- judge bench order of the Allahabad High Court which had asked a Bahraich-based Waqf Board to temporarily allot a portion of its land in May-June this year to the proprietors of a circus for its show during an annual fair.



"The faith of the common man in the country is shaken to the core by such shocking and outrageous orders," said justices Katju and Mishra.



"We are sorry to say but a lot of complaints are coming against certain judges of the Allahabad High Court relating to their integrity," said the bench, without disclosing the contents of complaints.



Referring to the rampant 'uncle judge' syndrome allegedly plaguing the high court, the apex court bench said, "Some judges have their kith and kin practising in the same court.



[color="#FF0000"]"And within a few years of starting practice, the sons or relations of the judge become multi-millionaires, have huge bank balances, luxurious cars, huge houses and are enjoying a luxurious life.[/color] .

When top is looting country, why this branch should left behind?