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Khap Gotra issues
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[quote name='Amatya Rakshas' date='13 January 2012 - 11:33 PM' timestamp='1326477348' post='114197']

Guru-ji, one query. While we assume that this could be the initial basis for the ban on the same gotra marriages, what could be the possible ways/methods or reasons by which the ancients of the yore observed the above phenomenon (if at all they were basing it on this)? Or did they observed it over generations and concluded thus? To put it in simple words, we did not have any genetic mapping/modelling at that time to come to such conclusions. What then, led to formation of these customs/rules? I hope I've conveyed what I wanted to put across.

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I can trace it back to chimpanzees



Chimps live in tribes of male brothers and male cousins.

When chimp female achieves puberty, she moves to the next tribe and does not mate with her patrilineal brothers or cousins.

But this means for chimps, cross-cousin mating was practised, because the neighboring tribes would keep exchanging females



So this has been the norm for 8 million years.



Chinese and Koreans have a similar gotra system , and marriages within the same last name are discouraged.



South Indians also ban patrilineal cousins.

We can consider South Indians to be the true root-modern humans about 50000 years ago, with modern brain size and new brain gene micro-cephalin

Negros are not true humans because their brains are smaller due to ancient version of micro-cephalin gene

From Chimp to South Indian, there is a ban on patrilineal cousins.





However, for jews, they marry their uncles. Brothers Daughter is often married.

This was common in the Rothschilds.

In Rhode Island , and a few other states, there is a specific jewish exemption to allow marriage with fathers-brother

And muslims who are in fact nothing more than a violent sect of ultra-orthodox jews, do patrilineal first cousin marriage



The primary paternal source for Jats and Brahmins is R1A, ( about 50% ).

And for thousands of years, patrilineal marriage ( within same gotra ) was very common



R1A was associated with dairy farming. And as they bred cattle, they probably noticed defects if cattle were bred within the same cow shed

Gotra means cow shed. And more healthy cattle were born when cattle from different cow sheds were mated. And about 5000 years ago, they started extrapolating this to humans. A very empirical and crudely useful method.



But, beyond 2nd cousin, gotra is meaningless in terms of genetics
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