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Naresh · 08-13-2008, 12:35 PM

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ISLAMABAD : Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf has finally decided to step down soon after Pakistan Independence Day (August 14), according to Pakistan daily WAQT News here on Tuesday.

Highly placed sources have told WAQT News, Musharraf has been ensured a safe exit after he resigns.

Musharraf is likely to demand an opportunity to address the nation before formally announcing his resignation.

Earlier on Tuesday, Pakistanâs ruling coalition said the impeachment motion against Musharraf will be submitted in parliament next week.

Two of the four provincial assemblies in Pakistan have passed resolutions asking Musharraf to seek a vote of confidence in parliament.

Once the process of the four provincial assemblies passing resolutions asking the President to seek a vote of confidence is completed, the impeachment motion will be moved in the national assembly.

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Naresh · 08-13-2008, 12:51 PM

Gloom sets over Gwadar ?

QUOTEWorrisome reports pour in about sudden stoppage of the port of Gwadar, rendering it un-operational. As a result, the industrialists and others have either deferred or dropped their projects, the only 5-star hotel in Gwadar gives a deserted look while people apprehend loss of billions to investors in commercial and industrial properties/plots. The worst report is about Singapore firm which was awarded the contract to operate the port. The company has reportedly left Gwadar, leaving the port in the lurch. <img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Flush.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='Flush.gif' />

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Naresh · 08-13-2008, 03:57 PM

Karachi Stocks down 61.23 points : KARACHI, Aug 13 : At close of trading, the KSE-100 index was at 9902.35, down 61.23 points. (Bureau Report) (Updated @ 14:15 PST)

Forex update : KARACHI, Aug 13 : The Pakistani Rupee was traded at Rs 76 to the US Dollar in the open market. (Bureau Report) (Updated @ 14:15 PST)

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08-13-2008, 09:55 PM

Now power will move from Muhajir to real Hindu hater Paki Punjabi. Tighten your belts, Indian will see worst of everything now. After Zia now Kiyani.

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Meanwhile back at the Ranch!

Suicide blast in Lahore, 8 killed, scores injured

Updated at : 0205 PST - 0105 IST, Thursday, August 14, 2008

LAHORE: Eight people have been killed including 5 police officials while 20 others have been wounded as a suicide bomber exploded himself at Allama Iqbal town near Dubai roundabout in Lahore amid Independence Day celebrations, police sources said

Bomb disposable squad and rescue teams have arrived on the spot meanwhile the injured people have been shifted to the nearby hospitals.

Suicide bomber was riding motorcycle who having reached near a police station beside Dubai roundabout blew himself up as the independence day celebrations were on progress, eyewitnesses said.

Police and rangers troops have cordoned off the area while the security has beefed up in and around Iqbal Town.

Emergency has been imposed and police and law enforcement agencies have been put on high alert in Lahore.

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Naresh · 08-14-2008, 03:13 AM

The economic charge sheet : Dr Pervez Tahir

QUOTETHE constitutionality, legality and the morality of Musharrafâs impeachment is doubted by few. But many, and this includes some supporters of impeachment, seem to believe that he did turn the economy around. This is patently false.

An illusion of turnaround was created by imposing a wrong strategy of growth, sustained by a series of commando actions to enforce a culture of being economical with the truth. No wonder, when the inevitable meltdown occurred, it was simply unstoppable.

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Naresh · 08-14-2008, 03:42 AM

Musharraf links quitting to failsafe indemnity

QUOTE* Resignation and impeachment on hold until matter is resolved
* US, UK and Saudis back in secret loop
* Army high command standing by

ISLAMABAD : Last ditch efforts behind the scenes to secure an acceptable guarantee of âsafe passageâ and indemnity for President Pervez Musharrafâs are continuing and may delay the announcement of his resignation speech originally planned for August 14 (today), informed sources have told Daily Times.

It is learnt that there is an understanding between the coalition partners and President Musharraf that he will resign before impeachment proceedings can begin in earnest against him.

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08-14-2008, 03:48 AM

Safe passage to Kargil or from Kargil or to Delhi or Turkey or Virginia, USA.
After Mushy safe passage to who knows where, we have to tune ourselves for Kayani.

Naresh · 08-14-2008, 04:08 AM

Pakistan plunges deeper into economic pit

QUOTEISLAMABAD : The free fall of key economic indicators continues unabated as Pak Rupee depreciated by Rs12.4 against US dollar and crossed Rs75, foreign reserves depleted by $3.64 billion and stock market tumbled by 5224 basis points during the tenure of the five month old elected government.

On August 13, 2008, Pakistanâs foreign currency reserves fell below $10 billion and touched $9.66 billion against $13.30 billion on March 31, 2008, registering a fall of $3.64 billion or 27.4 per cent in reserves in the last four and half months period of Gilaniâs government.
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The market capitalisation in terms of dollars stood at $73.70 billion on March 31, 2008, which went down to $41.28 billion on August 13, 2008, registering a fall of $32.4 billion or 44 per cent.

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**acharya** · 08-14-2008, 08:16 AM

Being Pakistani âMajed Akhter

This is our country, and for the vast majority of us the only one we have. I, for one, am proud of what we have achieved in 61 years, despite our bumbling political class (in which I include the esteemed military) and despite the opting out of our rich classes

What does it mean to be Pakistani? Itâs not easy to answer this question, or even ask it. In a country fragmented by class, linguistic, ethnic, cultural, and geographical identities, it seems preposterous to search for an essential Pakistani characteristic.

Yet on this day, when we celebrate the formation of Pakistan 61 years ago, no other question weighs as heavily on the mind of the cynical observer of our current state of affairs. I want to draw on my personal experience to reflect about just two aspects of âPakistaninessâ. The first deals with how we see ourselves through the eyes of outsiders, and the second with how we see ourselves through the eyes of others in our own society.

The question of being Pakistani has plagued me since the third grade, when I first heard the word âPakiâ uttered by an Egyptian friend at my international school in Riyadh. He was telling a joke, and was confused by my reluctance to join all the other little third graders in appreciative laughter. It wasnât pride or anger than stopped me from laughing, but the birth pangs of a panicked schizophrenia: was I really a Paki too? âPakiâ, as far as I could make out, referred to: nerdiness, heavily accented English, a lack of sophistication, and perhaps a lack of fashion sense.

My insecurity about others thinking of me as Pakistani was cleansed, predictably, after moving to Lahore for high school. I came to realise that there were many types of Pakistanis, and the stereotypes that whites and Arabs had of us were simply not true. This is not rocket science, but it was news to me at age fifteen. I came to attach less importance to what non-Pakistanis thought of me as a Pakistani.

It is unfortunate that members of our influential diaspora have not had a similar growing up experience. It is befuddling to find the ramifications for âour imageâ as one of the main evaluative criterion for political developments in the country, especially by Pakistanis living abroad or with strong links to other countries. It is this same group of people that applaud military rule and are willing to sacrifice national interest for the sake of our âfriends and alliesâ, whether they be in the Gulf or the West. Arguments that link attracting FDI and tourism to our image are infantile: FDI and portfolio investment that is sensitive to concerns about image is light-footed and not the kind of investment that would help us grows sustainably anyway, and the availability of infrastructure and cheap entertainment is what attracts tourists, not a nod of approval from CNN.

The schizophrenia hatched in a third grade playground has sublimated into uneasiness not about outsiders identifying me as Pakistani, but about ârealâ Pakistanis accepting me as one of their own. Never mind that it is impossible to define a ârealâ Pakistani: what I am referring to is the isolation (and alienation, if they are honest with themselves) the well-off have from the mass of Pakistanâs citizens, on a host of levels: material, spatial, cultural, and linguistic.

While it may be true that every society that doesnât have hunting and gathering as its primary economic activity experiences class segregation, in Pakistan the degree of separation is absurd. Barah Anna, a new Indian film currently being judged at film festivals in Toronto and Venice, explores Indian social dynamics from a âservantâs-eye viewâ, and is meant to be a biting critique of Indian elite culture. I can only cringe when I think of how much worse the rich in Pakistan probably act, given that India at least has democracy.

The imbalances of wealth and opportunity available to members of our society are staggering, and ultimately the only way to restore some semblance of balance is through government. One important area where government should intervene is in the purchasing of goods and services that allow the rich to isolate themselves from the problems of the larger nation. When a rich household purchases a generator, they no longer are terribly concerned about the energy crisis. When they purchase the services of a security firm, they are no longer worried about the law and order situation.

Examples are everywhere: private transport, private education, and high-priced entertainment (like coffee shops and pop concerts) are just a few. I am not arguing for draconian measures to ban these services (although there is arguably precedent â South Korea restricted pleasure travel abroad till the late 80s) â just a recognition that the rich need to be stakeholders in order for some public provisions to improve. The argument is not based solely on ethics; the fabric of the nation as a whole is damaged when the rich opt out.

Uneasiness about being Pakistani is the closest thing to an essential Pakistani trait there is. Whether you resent Pakistani society for being too Islamic, or not Islamic enough, too domineering or too dithering, of robbing you of your provincial and linguistic identity or not giving you a solid enough identity to hang on to, the feeling is near universal. Although this doesnât at first glance seem like the best thing to have in common, it does augur one thing: we all want a different Pakistan.

It is now a matter of communication and of power: how do we tell each other and reach a compromise on what we want (without blowing each other up), and how do we ensure our nationâs not insignificant energies are focused on implementing that solution? It is undoubtedly a complex issue, but it is a way forward, and that is what we must focus on.

This is our country, and for the vast majority of us the only one we have. I, for one, am proud of what we have achieved in 61 years, despite our bumbling political class (in which I include the esteemed military) and despite the opting out of our rich classes. If we get our act together, and search for ways to bind the fragments of our polity instead of shattering even further the bits that exist, the next 61 years will be something we can look forward to.

Majed Akhter is an economist in Karachi. He can be reached at majed.akhter@gmail.com

Shambhu · 08-14-2008, 08:49 AM

QUOTEUneasiness about being Pakistani is the closest thing to an essential Pakistani trait there is. Whether you resent Pakistani society for being too Islamic, or not Islamic enough, too domineering or too dithering, of robbing you of your provincial and linguistic identity or not giving you a solid enough identity to hang on to, the feeling is near universal. Although this doesnât at first glance seem like the best thing to have in common, it does augur one thing: we all want a different Pakistan.

Majed Akhter is an economist in Karachi. He can be reached at majed.akhter@gmail.com
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**acharya** · 08-14-2008, 08:54 AM

Editorial: Thinking of the post-Musharraf era

Everybody thinks President Pervez Musharraf has no way to go but resign from office. Some think he is going to announce his decision to bow out on Thursday (today). Newspapers are reporting on the advice being offered to him: most of it is in favour of resigning. Then there are variations on the theme. One advice is that he should apologise to the nation for sacking the judges and reinstate them before he leaves, probably as a way of seeking âsafe passageâ. Another is that he should restore the judges and then abide by their verdict on the legitimacy of his office.

The political parties heretofore reluctant to condemn the president are now thinking of joining the impeachers simply because they have to think of the post-Musharraf period and their own political survival. One such is the Pakistan Peopleâs Party (Sherpao) or PPPS which has thrown in the towel after a period of staying aloof from the impeachment move. The PMLQ is verbally manning the presidentâs barricade but is split down the middle as more and more âforward blocsâ emerge in the provinces, all politicians, thinking of their post-Musharraf âadjustmentsâ.

The impeaching parties are praising the army, and if the army detects in it a whiff of hypocrisy, one canât blame the army. After the army signalled it was going to stand aside from the bruising fracas, it became clear to everyone that the president wonât be able to sack the government and the parliament. Even the presidentâs own PMLQ thereafter took a stance against the use of Article 58-2(b). The others began issuing statements in favour of the praiseworthy role of the army. The noise of impeachment went up a few decibels and some people began to add Article 6 to the impeachment, meaning that he could be tried for treason and hanged.

There is no doubt that President Musharraf has to go and it is better if he stands down himself. We have said this many times before. Unfortunately the option of resigning is being used by the impeachers too: âif you resign on your own you can get a safe passage from usâ. Everyone feels that the Musharraf era is over. But no one is actually in the mood to see what it is going to be like to be in the post-Musharraf era. One glimpse of it came on Tuesday when the Taliban announced that they had killed 13 innocent people in Peshawar by blowing up a Pakistan Air Force bus. The message was that the army should retreat from Bajaur if it wants to avoid further targeting of its personnel.

The charge-sheet issued against President Musharraf by Al Qaeda contained many items that the new order after him may be forced to favour under media pressure. For instance, the demands of the Lal Masjid vigilantes may be increasingly conceded by the parties that will take over from President Musharraf. The government and its allies will also be faced with an anti-American backlash in the case of Dr Aafia Siddiqi. As the politicians retreat in the face of âour Taliban brothersâ, and the army becomes increasingly the only entity fighting them, Pakistanâs post-Musharraf era will become more threatening. And, in contrast, the Musharraf era will start looking good.

Countries which felt âbetrayedâ by President Musharraf are being cautious because they can guess that the future is not good. The United States felt short-changed by him when it discovered that he was clandestinely supporting the Taliban; India went into the ânormalisationâ process in 2004 but soon discovered that President Musharraf was not ready to go all the way. So now a kind of proxy war of explosions and blasts is going on with India, and American missiles are increasingly targeting Pakistani territory. However, India has warned that âMusharrafâs exit may give the militants more freedomâ. So the irony in the situation is obvious: as we welcome the post-Musharraf era, the outside world is getting jittery by the day.

Nor is the economy going to get better just because we are rid of Musharraf. In fact problems may arise if, to please the masses, the government tries to change the external political alliances that had pepped up the economy. President Musharraf had aligned the country in such a way after 9/11 that, at the risk of infuriating the people, he had brought in external assistance to kick-start an economy sunk by the grand national gesture of testing the nuclear device in 1998. The fear is that in the coming days, our obsession with ânational honourâ â which we think we lost under President Musharraf â might satisfy itself by destroying an already troubled economy.

The ecstasy produced by the ritual of immolating President Musharraf is going to wear off pretty quickly in the post-Musharraf era. At this juncture, we should pause to ask whether we are not all becoming a collection of angry posses with single-item agendas. It is dangerous that, at the end of our âstruggleâ, there is the lone figure of Pervez Musharraf tied to a stake. Tunnel vision is no vision. *

Second Editorial: Freedom for the media

The information minister, Sherry Rehman, should be complimented for not losing much time before fulfilling her pledge to change the Press, Newspapers, News Agencies, and Books Registration law and restore the freedom it had taken away from the countryâs media last year. The law was clamped as a curb on November 7, 2007, to prevent the expression of dissent and negative reporting on President Musharraf. What the 2007 amendment took away were many of the freedoms granted in 2002 through an ordinance.

Broadcasting and publishing are two crucial ingredients of a dynamic society. Any fetters placed on them damage the prospects of a people moving forward. However, at the same time, broadcasters and publishers should respond positively to the governmentâs intent to restore the freedoms earlier taken away. To write cynically, showing distrust and contempt, is not the right response. There is no doubt that Ms Rehmanâs initiative is a positive step and we should all welcome it. Additionally we should ask all journalists â electronic and print both â to show professionalism and watch their language when they feel themselves going over-board. *

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**acharya** · 08-15-2008, 01:40 AM

US, UK seek graceful exit for Musharraf: reports

Islamabad-London (PTI): Last ditch efforts are on to secure a "safe passage" and indemnity for Pervez Musharraf with US and British diplomats pressing the government not to impeach the President as it will further harm crisis-racked Pakistan.

However, several preconditions put forth by Musharraf with army's backing including his demand that he be allowed to stay in the country were dragging the behind the scene negotiations and delaying the announcement of his resignation, sources told the Pakistani newspaper Daily Times.

There was speculation that the 65-year-old former General will annouce his decision to bow out during a speech last night, but Musharraf refused to reveal his cards and instead harped on political reconciliation. "There is an understanding between the Pakistan People's Party-led coalition and Musharraf on the President resigning before impeachment proceedings begin in earnest against him," the Times said.

However, Musharraf is refusing to take "safe passage" to mean going into exile outside the country immediately after his resignation. He is insisting on two conditions -- that he will be entitled to stay in his house at Chak Shahzad on the outskirts of Islamabad and be provided full security and privileges as allowed under law to all ex-presidents.

He is also demanding that the "cast-iron guarantees of indemnity" will be provided from any action against him following his resignation, preferably through an act of parliament, the sources said.

British and US diplomats have, meanwhile, covertly come to Musharraf's rescue seeking a "graceful exit" for him, British daily The Guardian reported.

Noting that it was clear that the ruling coalition now has the two-thirds majority needed to impeach Musharraf, it said western diplomats have sought to convince the coalition government that impeachment would further undermine the security and political situation in crisis-racked Pakistan, and that he should instead be offered a "graceful exit".

"We are being told (by western envoys) that it's not going to bring more stability to have a long trial.? And that it is in the interests of stability for him to exit," the report quoted a senior coalition politician. Sir Mark Lyall Grant, director of political affairs at the British Foreign Office, currently in Pakistan, is said to spearheading the message of caution.

Lyall Grant met Asif Ali Zardari, leader of the ruling Pakistan People's Party, on Tuesday night at the British High Commission. He held a separate meeting with Information Minister Sherry Rehman and also met Musharraf, the FCO confirmed. Grant, a former British High Commissioner to Pakistan, was intimately involved in western mediated negotiations last year between Musharraf and former prime minister Benazir Bhutto, which presaged her return to Pakistan and the holding of elections. On the US side, the Deputy US Ambassador Peter Bodde is understood to have met Zardari in the last couple of days. American Ambassador Anne Patterson saw Nisar Ali Khan, a senior member of Nawaz Sharif's party, the Pakistan Muslim League-N, the other main group in the coalition.' Her message was: "Give Musharraf safe passage."

The Saudis, perceived as close to Musharraf, have also reportedly jumped into action to ensure a safe exit for Musharraf ahead of the proposed imepachment motion next week.

According to the report, spokesmen for both the British and US mission denied that they were seeking to interfere.

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Naresh · (This post was last modified: 08-15-2008, 04:01 AM by Naresh.)

[center]Deal is done[/center]

* Coalition offers president safe passage, security cover if he resigns * Nawaz ready to show flexibility
* President to decide about his future in next few days
* Drop scene expected in few days
* PML-N now less interested in drafting charge sheet

ISLAMABAD : The coalition government has offered indemnity and security to President Pervez Musharraf if he resigns, sources privy to the developments said on Thursday.

Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) leader Nawaz Sharif has agreed to change his rigid stance against the president, who is likely to finalise a decision in the next few days. The drop scene is likely in a few days, the sources said.

Charge sheet : A meeting to continue the drafting of a charge sheet against Musharraf could not proceed on Thursday after the PML-N lost interest in the activity, sources said. PML-N leader Ishaq Dar said he could not attend the meeting because he was preoccupied with Independence Day celebrations. Dar â who was a finance minister in the coalition government before all ministers from his party resigned following disagreement on the framework for the restoration of judges sacked by Musharraf on November 3, 2007 â said he would begin attending the meeting when the impeachment proceedings begin.

They said the United States, the United Kingdom and Arab rulers had been pressuring the government for a safe exit for Musharraf, who seized power in a bloodless coup against Nawaz in 1999 and has been a US ally in the international war on terror since September 2001. American and British diplomats reportedly discussed the matter directly with Nawaz Sharif after other parties in the ruling coalition told them Nawaz was not willing to show flexibility.

Pakistan Peopleâs Party (PPP) Co-chairman Asif Ali Zardari â the widower of slain two-time prime minister Benazir Bhutto â and Awami National Party chief Asfandyar Wali said they gave more importance to the moral aspects than the legal ones, according to the sources. Wali told Aaj Kal the outcome of impeachment would be no different from those of previous military rulers, but did not elaborate the statement.

Three of the four provincial assemblies have already passed no-confidence resolutions against the president, demanding that he take a vote of confidence from his electoral college or resign, failing which the coalition government should impeach him under Article 47 of the Constitution.

Musharrafâs allies lost the general elections held on February 18, 2008 to the PPP and the PML-N, who are part of the four-party ruling coalition that also includes the ANP and Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam-Fazl.

The two major partners in the coalition announced they would restore the sacked judges after negotiations in Murree, but could not agree on a framework. In more recent âmake-or-breakâ negotiations, the two parties agreed on impeaching President Musharraf before restoring the judges. aaj kal report

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08-15-2008, 06:47 AM

QUOTEDIRTY PAKISTANI MUSLIM LEAGUE (QAID E AZAM) RATS 
These rats run towards India where Moron Singh will give them first right on India's resources.

08-15-2008, 06:51 AM

Done deal
Mushy is saying he will not leave Pakistan. My suggestion, return back to your mother land India. His job is done in Pakistan. We can send back Moron Singh to his mother land, Pakistan.

Titbit -
Mushy and I are born in same hospital in Delhi.

Naresh · 08-15-2008, 01:03 PM

Dollar against rupee spirals to a new high at Rs77

QUOTEKARACHI : The value of rupee against US dollar in the inter-bank market came crashing to its new low at Rs77.

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Naresh · (This post was last modified: 08-15-2008, 03:52 PM by Naresh.)

QUOTE(Mudy @ Aug 15 2008, 06:51 AM)Done deal
Mushy is saying he will not leave Pakistan. My suggestion, return back to your mother land India. His job is done in Pakistan. We can send back Moron Singh to his mother land, Pakistan.

Titbit -
Mushy and I are born in same hospital in Delhi.
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Mudy Ji :

Bravo - Utkrush!

Why is this âservileâ wish to have Mush come to India - the land he has so earnestly tried to Conquer and Islamize?

Let him âStew in his own Morning Evacuationâ, I say, or any other of his Evacuation at any Other Time of the Day or Night!

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