Destruction Of Hindu Culture From India

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<i>Friends:
The Governor of Karnataka appointed by the Congress Govt. appears to act adversely against the pujaris. Many of them have already left this profession. Thousands of Temples have been closed. But the Govt. continues to harass and intimidate the pujaris in Karnataka. The GHHF has to become active in this area to minimize the suffering of the pujaris. Please deliberate on this matter and bring it to the attention of Sri Subramanya Swamy. Thank you.
Venkata Ramaiah.</i>

<b>Please note that Karnataka State is under President's Rule. </b>


<b>High Court stays GO on archaks assets </b>

DH News Service, Bangalore: Deccan Herald, march 01, 2008

The High Court on Friday stayed the operation of the recent State Governments Order, and subsequent circular which seeks details of income and assets of archaks of all muzrai temples in the State.

Justice K L Manjunath passed an interim order to this effect following a writ petition by M R Neelakanta Dixit, pradhana archak of Sri Someshwara Swamy temple, Bangalore and several other archaks of various temples in Bangalore, Kolar and Mandya districts.

The petitioners impugned the Hindu Religious and Charitable Endowments Commissioner's circular dated January 30, 2008, directing all DCs to collect the assets statements of archaks, assistant archaks, upadikantaras, mantrapushpa archaks or parupattedars working in all muzrai temples.

<b>Validity challenged</b>

They also challenged the validity of the State Government Order dated January 11, 2008.

The petitioning archaks said that archaks have meagre monthly salaries and depend on 'Thattekasu' (offerings) obtained during mangalarathis and archanes, and 'Dakshine' on performing homas, for livelihood. The State government move to seek assets of archaks and their relatives is of no relevance to the muzrai department, but only a way to harass them, they contended.

They said, the GO and Circular seeks details of salary and seva commission, although no minimum pay is fixed for archaks till date and no commission is received by them for their services.

The Court stayed the operation of both the GO and the circular, while ordering notices to Secretary to Revenue Department (Muzrai) and the Endowments Commissioner on the petition.

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Reflections on the Survival of Hindu culture in India – How do we protect our Temples?
President Dr. Abdul Kalam said:
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"In 3000 years of our history, people from all over the world have come and invaded us, captured our lands, conquered our minds. From Alexander onwards, The Greeks, the Portuguese, the British, the French, the Dutch, all of them came and looted us, took over what was ours. Yet we have not done this to any other nation. We have not conquered anyone. We have not grabbed their land, their culture, their history and tried to enforce our way of life on them. Why? Because we respect the freedom of others."
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Dear Friends:

Namaste.


No where in the free, democratic world the religious institutions are managed, maligned and controlled by the government denying the religious freedom of the people of the country. But it is happening to Hindus in India. A number of State governments have passed Endowment Acts and / or Specific Shrine Acts usurping the rights of Hindus from managing their Hindu Temples. Government officials took control of Hindu Temples because they smell money in the Hindu Temples, they recognize the indifference of Hindus, they are aware of the unlimited patience and tolerance of Hindus, they also know that it is not in the blood of Hindus to go to the streets to demonstrate, destroy property, threaten, loot, harm and kill. We do not vote as a block in the elections like the Christians and Moslems. The government has usurped the freedom of Hindus to manage their Temples, denied their human rights and engaged in continued discrimination of Hindus.



Some of the State governments in India are selling thousands and thousands of acres of Temple lands, taking over the Temples lands for a fraction of the market value, diverting Temple funds to Christians and Moslems, misusing the Temple funds (example, sponsoring hockey tournament using Balaji Temple money), demolishing or blowing up the Hindu Temples, allowing encroachment of the Temple lands, imposing 50 percent surcharge on Hindus to go to pilgrimage centers, denying adequate salaries for the priests, and allowing thousands of Temples to be dilapidated. At the same time, Andhra Pradesh government passed Christian Properties Protection Bill guaranteeing the protection of the properties of Christian missionaries, churches and other educational institutions. What hypocrisy?


The same state governments allow Churches and Mosques total, unconditional freedom to run their institutions without any government control. In fact the governments support them financially – allotting crores of rupees for the renovation of churches and mosques, construction of churches and mosques, and salaries for the Imams.



In fact Government of India spends 500-600 crores of rupees each year for Moslems to go to Mecca, and constructed Special Hajj centers in a number of cities. Please remember that none of the 57 Islamic countries give subsidy to their Moslem citizens to go to Mecca. In February 2008, Andhra Pradesh Government even proposed a huge budget for Christians to go to Jerusalem. You may be thinking as to why the same pilgrimage privileges were not given to Hindus to go to Tirupathi, Varanasi, Rameswaram, Ayodhya, Dwaraka, Badarinath etc? It is very SIMPLE, Hindu brothers and sisters are in deep slumber. We are in denial. We are disunited. We are pacifists.

Times have changed. Threat to the survival of Hindu civilization is real. Billions of dollars are pouring into India every year to convert illegally the gullible illiterate. We the Hindus are sitting and watching the demise of our culture. We, Hindus, should not sit quiet. We have to be active. We have to support activities to free the Temples. We should contribute generously to promote our culture. We have to exercise our right to fight for our freedom. We have to express our views loud and clear. It is time for us to wake up and see what is happening to our Hindu culture. The government, communists, media, atheists and other religions are determined to destroy our culture. Government would not allow our children to learn about the atrocities committed by Christians and Moslems. No text book would have any information about Goa Inquisition, and nearly 1000 years of Moslem rule. Many historians have documented these atrocities, many Encyclopedias have narrated them, and most of the Universities in North America and Europe teach them. Why the Indian government would not allow this kind of information to be included in the textbooks? It is simply vote bank politics and minority pacification. How did the secular Indian government pacify the minorities? <b>In 1982, the (NCERT) National Council of Educational Research and Training issued a directive for the rewriting of school texts. It stipulated that the "characterization of the medieval period as a time of conflict between Hindus and Moslems is forbidden." Minority quotas in the fields of education and employment are effectively used to woo the Muslims. Thus denial of history, or negationism, has become India's official educational' policy. </b>

Many of us have not even heard of the history of Hindu Kush Mountains - the mountains where Hindu were taken and were hacked, mutilated, and killed around 1300 AD because they refuse to be converted to Islam. The Hindu blood flowed from the top of the mountain down on to the streets. Hindus have to be equipped with the history of the last 1000 years to know what happened to Hindus. We have to learn our past. We have to teach our children of Hindu genocide. Jewish people have several museums across the globe about the persecution of Jews by Germans during Second World War. They make every effort to remember their history and pass it on to their children. If we do not know the history of our past, we are likely to repeat the same mistakes and we are likely to face the fate of our ancestors. Let us not repeat our past mistakes. George Santayana, a Spanish-born American author of the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, said that "Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it." Studying history is necessary to avoid repeating past mistakes. Hence, every Hindu has an obligation to read and learn the history of our forefathers who were subjected to violence, cruelty, atrocities and carnage.



It is necessary for all the Hindus across the globe to participate in the revival of Hindu heritage, in freeing the Temples from government control; in bringing unity among different sects, sampradayas, and varnas; in preserving and protecting the rights of Hindus in different countries; in restoring our prestige, honor and essence of our Hindu heritage. Out motto should be "Let us protect and preserve our Hindu culture." If Hindus do not preserve their culture, who will preserve it? If Hindus do not protect their culture, who will do it? If Hindus do not promote their culture, who will do it? If Hindus not practice their culture, who will do it? If Hindus do not defend their culture who will do it? Let us all join our hands and pray that we all will serve as guardians and champions of our heritage, so that we will not be condemned again. We should not be railroaded again.



(NOTE: I will send the progress report of our activities regarding the Pada Yatra and Hindu Temples in India in a couple of days.)



Dhanyavad

V. V. Prakasa Rao, PhD

Global Hindu Heritage Foundation
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M.R. VENKATESH

Chennai, April 12: A pope reformed the Christian calendar but priests here are furious at the DMK government’s revision of the Tamil year.

<b>The administration has told government-run temples not to celebrate the traditional Tamil New Year tomorrow, saying the year began three months ago.</b>

<b>Angry priests said they had received an oral order banning the New Year rites — special pujas and readings from the Tamil almanac, Panchangam — on Sunday.</b>

For centuries, priests have read from the almanac every New Year evening to tell large gatherings how the coming year would unfold — to reassure them about good rainfall and bountiful crops, or warn them of war and pestilence.

<b>Many temples are preparing to defy the ban. “This is needless interference with age-old temple practices,” said a priest at Chennai’s Sundareshwarar temple.</b>

The Tamil year has always begun with the month of Chittirai, in mid-April. But the DMK government got a law passed last February, advancing it to the first day of the month Thai in mid-January.

<b>This was done to pander to Tamil nationalists who claim that the mid-April New Year is a “Sanskritic imposition”.</b>

The mid-January New Year would coincide with Pongal — an “authentic” Tamil festival (though Sankranti is observed around the same time across India).

Also, Tamil saint-poet Thiruvalluvar’s birthday, usually celebrated on January 17, would now virtually kick off the year, which would be logical as the Tamil calendar dates from him, the government said.

“We’ll go ahead with the special pujas for the sake of the devotees,” a priest said.
A priest at the Jambulingeshwarar temple near Tiruchirappalli, however, said his shrine would obey the ban.

The Ramanathaswami temple in Rameshwaram, however, has been spared a difficult choice. Sources said the special pujas would be held since devotees had already paid for them. But the temple’s long-standing custom has been to read the almanac in the month of Aadi (mid-June), so it gets a breather now.

Several Opposition leaders, led by Jayalalithaa and MDMK chief Vaiko, issued New Year’s Eve greetings to the public today, indicating they disagreed with the new calendar law.

A similar reform of the Christian calendar was decreed in 1582 by Pope Gregory XIII, but for astronomical reasons. He dropped 10 days from the Julian version of the calendar to correct a miscalculation about leap years.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

[dhu]

DMK's bogus Tamil New Year
Sandhya Jain

Tamil Nadu's DMK regime could easily win the prize for the most original intellectual initiatives in the country. First it rewrote the history of Indian civilisation. Sri Rama is a figment of the imagination of Aryan Hindus, superimposed upon the Dravidian culture of Tamil Nadu. He never built the Setu erroneously named after him; it is a sandbar created by nature so that cronies of the current regime can make a fortune dredging it.

Tamil Hindus have lived with so much humiliation since the tirades of EV Ramaswamy Naicker that they don't know how to combat continuing insults to ancient reverences and traditions. The arrest of the Kanchi Acharyas on trumped up charges was the most frontal attack on Hindu civilisation since the assassination of Guru Tegh Bahadur four centuries ago.

Now a more insidious assault has begun to break the unity and continuity of Hindu tradition by vivisecting its civilisational concord. Hindus celebrating Baisakhi this year will be astonished to find their Tamil brethren culturally marooned as Chief Minister M Karunanidhi has decreed that the State will no longer observe Baisakhi as the Hindu New Year. Seventy million Tamils in India and Sri Lanka are afflicted by this move, as the forces behind the Indian innovation are trying to scuttle the Tamil New Year holiday in Sri Lanka as well.

Kalaignar was inaugurating a cultural festival organised by his daughter, Rajya Sabha MP Kanimozhi, on January 10, 2008 when he unilaterally announced that the Tamil New Year would henceforth be celebrated on the first day of the Tamil month Thai (Pongal, Makar Sankranti) instead of the first day of the month Chithirai. In a pre-planned move, he piloted a Bill on January 29, 2008 changing the Tamil New Year from April 14 to Pongal (14 January), and had it passed on February 1, 2008.

Baisakhi is observed as the Hindu New Year in Haryana, Punjab, Assam, Tripura, Manipur, West Bengal, Orissa, Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Myanmar, Kampuchea, Nepal, Sri Lanka and Thailand. It marks the first day in the Hindu solar calendar dating back to Aryabhatta and the Surya Siddhanta (fourth century CE). Hindu seers calculated the earth's distance to the moon, sun and other planets at a time when most of the world was unaware of the value of the integer zero; an atheist politician has no locus standi to tamper with tradition. Kalaignar claims to have consulted Tamil scholars and cultural experts before ordering the switch; this suggests a conspiracy against the Tamil-Hindu ethos. The academic credentials of these scholars must be revealed immediately.

Tamils say the 'Karunanidhi New Year' coincides with January 1 in the Julian calendar (January 14 of the Gregorian), and the whole exercise may be an attempt to move closer to the church year. Kalaignar reportedly also proposes to change the names of the Tamil months and weekdays to remove pan-Indic terms; a so-called Tiruvalluvar era commencing in 31 BC has already been introduced.

A word on Tiruvalluvar is in order. Jains have contributed vastly to the shaping of Tamil history and culture, especially Tamil literature and its most important ethical text, Tirukkural of Tiruvalluvar. The Jain poet-monk Ilankovatikal wrote the classic Silappatikaram (fifth century); the Sivakacintamani was written by Digambara Muni Tiruttakkatevar (ninth century). Important Tamil grammars, dictionaries and technical treatises were written by Jains, such as Pavananti's Nannul (12th century), the standard Tamil grammar; these were all appreciated by Saiv and Vaisnav scholars.

I say this to emphasise the shared nature of our civilisation and reject the new sectarian-racism being injected into the country from various quarters. Regarding the Tiruvalluvar era, there is no evidence he was born in 31 BC. V Pillai (History of Tamil Language and Literature, 1956) felt the internal evidence of Tirukkural suggested Tiruvalluvar lived around 600 AD.

As for the new Tamil month-names, they are simply the signs of the zodiac in Tamil (Capricorn, Aquarius, Aries, etc). But each month of the Indic solar calendar, Aadi (Ashaada), Purataadi (Bhadrapada), Markazhi (Margasirsha) has special rituals and fasts attached to it. Hence people perceive an attempt to erase the entire underpinnings of Hindu observances in rural Tamil Nadu.

A private news channel has reported that the HR&CE department has issued instructions to all temples to prohibit the sacred 'Panchangam Reading' ritual and other New Year celebrations on Baisakhi. This atheist offensive to diminish a living civilisation is consistent with what has long been happening in Tamil Nadu. Temple land and funds are routinely appropriated by the state with impunity; if Hindu society hopes to recover autonomy and self-esteem, it must begin by fighting for the rights and inalienable dignity of the temples. Hindu dharma has survived centuries of iconoclasm only because Hindu warriors and civilians did not shirk encounters, but rushed in thousands to defend their gods and temples to the last drop of blood. Come to north India and count the graves of sadhus at contested religious spaces.

Yet the civilisational challenge remains equally grim in the north. In 1999, Sikhs were asked to disown the ancient Hindu lunar calendar for a new Nanakshahi (crypto-Gregorian) calendar invented in Canada by one Pal Singh Purewal. Traditionally, the Sikh New Year falls on Baisakhi, when Guru Gobind Singh created the Khalsa. Purewal's calendar incorporates Gregorian features such as 365 days, five hours, 48 minutes and 45 seconds with a leap year every four years! It aims at detaching Sikh identity from its pan-Indic roots, a move already quite advanced given Sikh infatuation with minority status.

The Shiromani Gurdwara Prabandhak Committee accepted the Nanakshahi calendar in 2003, but the Akal Takht refused, upset at the arbitrary fixing of birth and death anniversaries of the Gurus. There is no historic evidence that Guru Gobind Singh was born on January 5; likewise with other Gurpurabs. Under a compromise formula, Baisakhi, Diwali, Guru Nanak's Birthday, Holi and Lohri (Makara Sankranti, Pongal) continue according to the Hindu calendar; events like Guru Arjun Singh's birth anniversary and the martyrdom of Guru Tegh Bahadur and Guru Gobind Singh are fixed according to the Nanakshahi calendar. A casual walk through Sikh mohallas shows the growing presence of evangelical churches. Custodians of the Sikh faith must wake up to the reality that loss of Hindu moorings may capsize the tradition itself.

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->but the Akal Takht refused, upset at the arbitrary fixing of birth and death anniversaries of the Gurus. There is no historic evidence that Guru Gobind Singh was born on January 5; likewise with other Gurpurabs. Under a compromise formula, Baisakhi, Diwali, Guru Nanak's Birthday, Holi and Lohri (Makara Sankranti, Pongal) continue according to the Hindu calendar; events like Guru Arjun Singh's birth anniversary and the martyrdom of Guru Tegh Bahadur and Guru Gobind Singh are fixed according to the Nanakshahi calendar.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

If the Akal Takht were upset about the arbitrary fixing of the the Gurus birthdays, why did they end using the Nanakshahi calendar to mark these event?

On a related note, how much of an effect will the DMK ruling have on the state? Politicians don't actually believe that just because they passed some inane law, the people are going to bend to their will do they?

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Karunanidhi bans panchangam in Hindu temples - Commentary on the senile act

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<b>Tamils ignore government fiat, celebrate New Year</b>

Chennai, April 13 (IANS) <b>Even as several major temples “obeyed” the diktat of the Tamil Nadu government and avoided special worship, the laity here celebrated Tamil New Year with usual gaiety Sunday</b>. Just as the biggest Hindu Shiva temple in Mylapore area here allowed people to offer special prayers, the famed Vishnu shrine at Srirangam, 300 km south of Chennai and considered a “heaven on earth”, celebrated the occasion with pomp.

The Meenakshi Amman temple at Madurai, 400 km south of here, steered clear of controversy and avoided any special prayer.

<b>The government early this year declared that from now on, Pongal, the harvest festival falling Jan 14, would herald the Tamil New Year.

It prohibited special prayers on the traditional Tamil New Year day in all government-controlled temples. It also banned the reading of the Tamil almanac on the traditional New Year day in shrines.</b>

Hindus across the state, however, celebrated the occasion regardless of the government’s fiat. <b>Festoons were seen everywhere and feasts were held at almost every home. </b> <!--emo&:rock--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rock.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='rock.gif' /><!--endemo-->

A leading Hindu priest explained why the masses ignored the wishes of the DMK government.

“The year is named ‘Sarvadhari’ after Lord Vishnu, in whom all Hindus believe and the term itself means ‘one who bears all burdens’,” said Shankara Shastri, a priest consulted by many leading business houses here.

“This is as per the Hindu calendar’s 60-year cycle that has been in vogue since the time of the Vedas, of which astrology and astronomy are essential parts. And it is not just the Tamils - several Indian subcultures have a New Year almost at the same time,” Shastri told IANS.

<b>The opposition AIADMK had exhorted its workers to celebrate the occasion and “tell the government that the people do not care for orders against Indian culture and sentiment”.</b>

Several Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) volunteers garlanded an icon of Mother India in Madurai and read the almanacs publicly to register their protest against the government.

“One does not know whether the people of Tamil Nadu will take a cue from the next New Year’s name ‘Virodhi’ and end up believing that the ruling DMK is their enemy, which is what the word means,” said political commentator and satirist Cho S. Ramaswamy.

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Tuesday April 15 2008 11:26 IST
P K Balachandran

COLOMBO: Sri Lankan Tamils, who are known for their orthodoxy, have summarily rejected Tamil Nadu Chief Minister M Karunanidhi’s bid to change the Tamil New Year from Chittirai Thirunaal (April 13) to Thai Pongal (January 14), saying it is unwarranted on astronomical, historical and cultural grounds.

Pro-Tamil Tiger commentators as well as Tamil moderates in the island feel that the change brought about through a resolution of the Tamil Nadu state assembly in February, does not have a justifiable basis even from Karunanidhi’s Tamil nationalist standpoint.

“I have not come across anywhere that Thai Pongal was considered to be the beginning of a New Year,” said Prof. S Pathmanathan, a renowned Sri Lankan Tamil historian and a former head of the history department in Peradeniya University at Kandy.

“In the Sangam era literature, there is no mention of the New Year. Sangam literature was secular and dealt with matters other than the religious. The question of the New Year is essentially a religious one, and politicians should not interfere,” he told this website's newspaper.

Pathmanathan, who has written seminal works on Hindu temples in Sri Lanka and the history of the Jaffna kingdom, said the Tamil New Year was an integral part of Tamil Hinduism and had been part of the Hindu ritual calendar for over a thousand years.

“From the time of the indigenous Tamil kings, the Tamils of India and Sri Lanka have considered Chittirai Thirunaal as the New Year, based on astronomical and religious considerations,” Pathmanathan said.

“The calculation for the commencement of the New Year and the calendar based on it are entirely astronomical,” added a commentator on the pro-LTTE website www.tamilnet.com who goes under the name Ampalam.

There is a combination of solar and stellar perspectives in the calculation of the New Year.

“The entry of the Sun into the first degree of the Fixed Zodiac (Niryana in Sanskrit), i.e. the first degree of the constellation Achchuvini (Ashwini) or the first degree of the zodiacal sign of Aries (Mesha in Sanskrit and Thakar in Tamil) is taken as the beginning of the year,” Ampalam said.

“For some reasons, the solar New Year found much currency in the southern parts of South Asia. It is associated with the Saalivahana Era, the reckoning of which is found predominantly in the inscriptions of South India and Sri Lanka. The Era begins in 77-78 AD,” he added.

“The Solar New Year in April is also associated with the 60-year cycle that has rendered names for the years. This cycle is based on the calculation of the relative positions of Jupiter and Saturn, the two major planets of the solar system, supposed to be exerting special impact on the climate and natural phenomena in a year, in addition to the usual impact of the Earth’s revolution around the sun. In this cycle, the relative positions of Jupiter and Saturn will repeat after 60 years.”

“Once again, the 60-year cycle is peculiar to Tamil astronomical texts. The names of the years are widely used only the Tamils. The system is essentially a southern innovation despite the names being in Sanskrit,” Ampalam pointed out.

On Chief Minister Karunanidhi’s argument in favour of adopting Thai Pongal as the Tamil New Year, the Sri Lankan commentator said the arguments for regarding this as a step towards a “Tamil revolution” are not clear. Thai Pongal is also determined astronomically. And like the Chittirai Thirunaal, Thai Pongal day (Jan. 14) is observed in various parts of India under various names.

“Whatever pros and cons can be said about the April New Year can also be said about Thai Pongal, which is Makara Sankraanti to the rest of India,” he asserted.

Giving up the April 13 New Year and opting for Thai Pongal day will only dissociate the Tamils from other Dravidian peoples in South India and Sri Lanka, Ampalam said.

Chittirai Thirunaal plays an integrative role by keeping alive relations between the Tamils and other Hindus in India, and also the Sinhalese Buddhists in Sri Lanka, Pathmanathan said. By giving it up, new cleavages and animosities would be created, he warned.

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[Husky]

This is all the work of christoterrorism and its christoterrorist puppets called 'sheep'.

Sandhya Jain is right when she writes the following.
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Sandhya Jain

Kalaignar was inaugurating a cultural festival organised by his daughter, Rajya Sabha MP Kanimozhi, on January 10, 2008 when he unilaterally announced that the Tamil New Year would henceforth be celebrated on the first day of the Tamil month Thai (Pongal, Makar Sankranti) instead of the first day of the month Chithirai. In a pre-planned move, he piloted a Bill on January 29, 2008 <b>changing the Tamil New Year from April 14 to Pongal (14 January)</b>, and had it passed on February 1, 2008.
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<b>Tamils say the 'Karunanidhi New Year' coincides with January 1 in the Julian calendar (January 14 of the Gregorian), and the whole exercise may be an attempt to move closer to the church year. Kalaignar reportedly also proposes to change the names of the Tamil months and weekdays to remove pan-Indic terms; a so-called Tiruvalluvar era commencing in 31 BC has already been introduced. </b>

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The Shiromani Gurdwara Prabandhak Committee accepted the <b>Nanakshahi calendar</b> in 2003, but the Akal Takht refused, upset at the arbitrary fixing of birth and death anniversaries of the Gurus. <b>There is no historic evidence that Guru Gobind Singh was born on January 5;</b> likewise with other Gurpurabs. Under a compromise formula, Baisakhi, Diwali, Guru Nanak's Birthday, Holi and Lohri (Makara Sankranti, Pongal) continue according to the Hindu calendar; events like Guru Arjun Singh's birth anniversary and the martyrdom of Guru Tegh Bahadur and Guru Gobind Singh are fixed according to the <b>Nanakshahi calendar. A casual walk through Sikh mohallas shows the growing presence of evangelical churches.</b> Custodians of the Sikh faith must wake up to the reality that loss of Hindu moorings may capsize the tradition itself.
[right][snapback]80664[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Note also why the loser church in TN tells its flock to celebrate the Hindu Festival of Pongal (Pongal is Very Much Hindu and is centred around Devi, Cows and Surya of course; the appropriating loser christians don't know the first thing about our Hindu religious festival). But part of the reason they're trying to steal it, is because of its timing. (The other reason is that Tamil christians have no culture and understandably feel inadequate. Since they are incapable of creating anything more than mock culture, they steal it just as christianism has done everywhere else.) Hence the terrorists want to appropriate the Hindu Pongal celebration as a christian thing or whatever they imagine it is.

And DMK is very much a christoterrorist group, so this latest move by the DMK twisties comes as no surprise. They supported their beloved christoterrorist British masters' attempts to stay in India. And they actually love English not Tamizh. Their loser mentality is okay for them but not for Tamil Nadu. They should take a one-way trip. Even though the British empire faded back into the dust (whence the speck emerged), they can still move to the Vatican where they can huddle with their Pope - they will be happier for his company and we will be happier for their departure. Win, win.

[shamu]

This needs to be analyzed with other christian attempts to steal local festivals. The standard strategy is to have the christian festival just before the native festival. Over a period of time the importance of native festival will go down since people are tired after a major festival.

[dhu]

Another denigration of Hindu Gods

Thanks to Hindu Munnani the launch of this movie “Vanakkammaa" has been stopped. Police say that it is postponed.

The poster of this movie shows Hindu Gods attending to nature"s call in public place.

This movie is supposed to contain characters posed as Hindu Gods (Rama " Hanuman) will be smoking and drinking alcohol.

Producer Anbu Thenarasan is atheist and close to DK. Director is Seemaan.

Hero Saravanan claims that there is no scene denegrating any God and this movie doesnt affect sentiments of any religion. He also says that a group is protesting against this movie to create problems to this Govt.(nallaatchi)

Questions:

1. Can our CM come forward to ban this movie just as he did for Da Vinci Code?

2. An atheist doesnt beleive in God. Does it mean that they have to denigrate God?

3. Can Rajnikanth voice for this issue?

[Bharatvarsh]

Either these mofos show consistency and allow a movie wid Madmos orgies or they ban this, I am for no ban but then we should be able to make whatever movies we want showing madmo and those police and Muslims who disrupted the Aurangzeb exhibition should be charged with violating a citizens right to freedom of expression.

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This atheist defence is a bunch of baloney. Let this atheist take digs at Mohd or JC like they do with Hindu dieties and they'll be toast. And they know that.
Like that M*F* Hussain

[Bodhi]

<!--QuoteBegin-Bharatvarsh+Apr 22 2008, 03:01 AM-->QUOTE(Bharatvarsh @ Apr 22 2008, 03:01 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Either these mofos show consistency and allow a movie wid Madmos orgies or they ban this, I am for no ban but then we should be able to make whatever movies we want showing madmo and those police and Muslims who disrupted the Aurangzeb exhibition should be charged with violating a citizens right to freedom of expression.
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I whole-heartedly agree. No ban, just equal opportunity to Hindus to do the similar stuff on the other party.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Faith can't be just Islam
Daniel Pipes

There's a contradiction brewing among Muslim political leaders on the question of creating a global law to respect religion.

On the one hand, the Mohammed cartoons and other episodes leave them intent to find a mechanism to suppress public anti-Islamic sentiments. As such laws cannot single out Islam exclusively for protection, they must include respect for religion in general.

Here is one example of this wish, as expressed by Yemen's Prime Minister Ali Mohammed Mujawr who, as reported by the Yemen Observer, has "called for an international law that criminalises religious insults and enforces mutual respect of religions, calling on all rationalists in the West to avoid such negative acts (as printing the Mohammed cartoons)".

In this spirit, Saudi Arabia's Consultative Council (Majlis ash-Shura) considered a resolution calling on the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to "work in coordination with Arab and Islamic groups and others at the United Nations to draft an international pact for respecting religions, their symbols and leaders, and prohibit insulting them in any way."

The council member who introduced the resolution, Mohammad Al Quwaihes, did so in direct reaction to the cartoons: "The provocation to move the resolution was the continuous onslaught on Islam in general and the Prophet Mohammed in particular, say for example, the blasphemous cartoons and films being published in Denmark, the Netherlands, America and the like."

Ah, but there's a problem with this "mutual respect of religions" idea, one which led the council overwhelmingly to vote down the resolution, 77-33. Critics pointed out that such a pact would recognise polytheistic religions, and that "would be unacceptable." One opponent, Khaleel Al Khaleel, explained his vote against on the grounds that it would create a dangerous precedent for Muslims. Another member, Talal Bakri, noted that "if we approve the resolution it will be make it obligatory to recognise some religions and will facilitate establishing places of worship for them in Muslim countries."

The idea of an international law banning blasphemy is just awful. How reassuring to know that the Saudi Consultative Council agrees with me, even if for its own parochial reasons.

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Koodalmanikyam Temple Festival- Elephant was provoked by Trouble Makers

Thrissur: Chalakudi DFO’s report on Elephant amok in KoodalmanikyaTemple confirmed that, The Elephant was provoked by trouble makers infiltrated among devotees.

The poor pachyderm was first provoked by throwing stones by miscreants and some one from the crowd tried to hold his tusk without the permission of Mahout.

Instead of accusing Temples and Temple customs, Police, Authorities and Temple festival organising committee members should make sure that such mischief makers should be shown their place.
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<b>Sanyasis seek Governor’s help </b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: A group of sanyasis met Governor R.L. Bhatia here on Tuesday and urged him to direct the government to take action against the attack on ashrams in different parts of the State.

Swami Gangesananda (Vidyadhiraja Ashram, Panmana, Kollam), Swami Bodhi Theertha (Sivagiri Madhom), Swami Brahmapadananda Saraswati (Sree Ramadasa Ashram, Chengottukonam), Garudadwajananda (Theerthapada Ashram, Vazhoor) and Swami Abhayananda Theerthapadar (Kodakarachira, Kottayam) submitted a memorandum to the Governor in this regard. There are attempts to defame members of a particular religion, they said adding the government is trying to protect those taking the law into their own hands.

The statement of Home Minister Kodiyeri Balakrishnan that no sanyasi would escape, Dewaswom Minister G. Sudhakaran’s remark on the character of sanyasis and Law Minister M. Vijayakumar’s statement that a law would be enacted to control ashrams have given leverage to certain youth organisations to take the law into their own hands. No action has been taken against those who attacked ashrams. All ashrams in the State are being monitored by the police.

A sanyasi of the traditional ashram of Chattambi Swamigal was interrogated by the police. Such moves have cast aspersions on those who lead an ascetic life. There is a conspiracy to malign the Amritanandamayi Madhom which has been rendering social service.

The Governor should examine such instances and direct the government to take action against those targeting the ashrams, they said.

Mr. Bhatia said he would take up the issue with the Ministers concerned, the sanyasis said.

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<b>‘Commercial’ renovation or atheistic destruction?</b>

By V. Sundaram

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->We don’t have to go to Kabul or Karachi or Islamabad to see the State-sponsored destruction of non-Muslim heritage structures or objects or places of worship. We can see that happening in Tamilnadu today.

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Talibans in Afghanistan only destroyed non-Muslim structures.  We have a government in Tamilnadu which believes in total obliteration of all Hindu heritage in the name of ‘Periyarism’.  The common people of Tamilnadu have already declared themselves against the anti-Hindu and anti-God philosophy of ‘Periyarism’.  The number of common people visiting temples everyday in every district in Tamilnadu has reached astronomical proportions today.  No popular government believing in the rule of ballot (not bullet!) can afford to ignore this patent fact.

According to Will Durant, ‘As a result of fanaticism, thousands of temples which had
represented the art of India through a millennium were laid in ruins. We can never know, from looking at India today, what grandeur and beauty she once possessed. India before Islam was one of the most advanced civilizations of all time. The Islamic invasion of India was probably the bloodiest story in history’.

It will not be fair to compare anti-Hindu and anti-Rama men like Karunanidhi with Emperors like Aurangazeb.  Aurangazeb was a devout Muslim and true to his faith.  According to historical records, he prayed to the Supreme Allah in Mecca in the thick of a battle in which he was leading the forces against the Uzbeg Chiefs of North Western India.  On the contrary, Karunanidhi has said ‘The word Hindu itself means a Thief’.   Against this background, it is highly amusing to read the infantile statement of K R Periyakaruppan, Tamilnadu Minister for Religious and Charitable Endowments (HR & CE) to the effect: ‘The DMK led government has been more Hindu friendly than earlier regimes’.  The whole world knows today that how very Hindu-friendly Karunanidhi and his DMK Government are, mainly on account of their total commitment to the wholesale destruction of Rama Sethu.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Where did Karunanidihi get this "The word Hindu itself means a Thief"?

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Hindu is used for thief in persian. It is quite common Islamic rhetoric. usually the argument goes: Muslims gave Hindus their name and Hindu means thief.