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Hindu Human Rights
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->British Hindu organisations protest situation of Malaysian Hindus

Hindu Voice UK, August 2007

British Hindu organisations have taken up the challenge of bringing international attention to problems that Hindus face in Malaysia, including the demolition of many Hindu temples and the awkward situation which the Shariah court puts Hindus in, illustrated by the stories of Maniam Moorthy and Revathi Massosai.

A number of organisations, led by the Hindu Human Rights group have arranged a protest outside the Malaysian Embassy in Sloane Square, London, on 31st August 2007, coinciding with Malaysia’s Independence Day. The protest will start at 2pm, and is due to run until 5pm.

Speaking about this issue, Ramesh Kallidai, Secretary General of the Hindu Forum issued the following statement: "The Hindu Forum of Britain is deeply concerned about the blatant discrimination of Hindus in Malaysia on the grounds of their faith. We do not understand how international institutions and world powers can simply watch and wait while scores of Hindu temples are being destroyed and razed to the ground by the Malysian Government. Hindus and other religious minorities of Malyasia are treated as third-class citizens who do not even have basic human rights. The Hindu Forum of Britain fully supports the rally outside the Malaysian embassy on 31st August and calls on the British Government to urgently look at human rights violation in Malaysia."

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Human rights have to be won, because the problem is that there are powerful entities who benefit by denying those rights.

So one has to be willing to fight, or at least to support those who fight. The best battle going on now is that by the CAPEEM against the California and Harvard-IER gang.

Support it, folks! There's little merit in wailing if one does not stand up and fight when the opportunity comes.
<b>Human Rights Congress for Bangladesh Minorities</b>
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From the site

aSvam naiva gajam naiva
vyaaghram naiva cha naiva cha
ajaaputro balim dadyat
devo durbala ghatakah

[ अश्वं नैव गजं नैव व्याघ्रं नैव च नैव च ।
अजापुत्रो बलिं दद्यात् देवो दुर्बलघातकः ॥ ]

Roughly translated it means, ” Not the horse, not the elephant, not the tiger by any means, but it is only the lamb that is led to sacrificial alter. Even god is against the weak.”
I put this up here to serve as a ready reference to anyone wanting to reply to secularists/ mulla-marxist-missionaries..(It is from one of the comments on the blog linked in the post just below this one).

1. There are nearly 52 Muslim countries. Show one Muslim country, which provides Haj subsidy.
2. Show one Muslim country where Hindus are extended the special rights that Muslims are accorded in India?
3. Show one Muslim country, which has a Non-Muslim as its President or Prime Minister.
4. Show one country where the 85% majority craves for the indulgence of the 15% minority.
5. Show one Mullah or Maulvi who has declared a ‘fatwa’ against terrorists.
6. Hindu-majority Maharashtra, Bihar, Kerala, Pondicherry, etc. have in the past elected Muslim as CMs; Can you ever imagine a Hindu becoming the CM of Muslim – majority J&K?
7. Today Hindus are 85%. If Hindus are intolerant, how come Masjids and Madrassas are thriving? How come Muslims are offering Namaz on the road? How come Muslims are proclaiming 5 times a day on loudspeakers that there is no God except Allah?
8. When Hindus gave to Muslims 30% of Bharat for a song, why should Hindus now beg for their sacred places at Ayodhya, Mathura and Kashi?
9. Why temple funds are spent for the welfare of Muslims and Christians, when they are free to spend their money in any way they like?
10. When uniform is made compulsory for school children, why there is no Uniform Civil Code for citizens?
11. In what way, J&K is different from Maharashtra, Tamil Nadu or Uttar Pradesh, to have article 370?
12. Why Gandhiji supported Khilafat Movement (nothing to do with our freedom movement) and what in turn he got?
13. Why Ghandiji objected to the decision of the cabinet and insisted that Somnath Temple should be reconstructed out of public fund, not government funds. When in January 1948 he pressurized Nehru and Patel to carry on renovation of the mosques of Delhi at government expenses?
14. If Muslims & Christians are minorities in Maharashtra, UP, Bihar, etc., are Hindus not minorities in J&K, Mizoram, Nagaland, Arunachal Pradesh, Meghalaya etc? Why are Hindus denied minority rights in these states?
15. Do you admit that Hindus have problems that need to be recognized? Or do you think that those who call themselves Hindus are themselves the problem?
16. Why post-Godhra is blown out proportion, when no one talks of the ethnic cleansing of 4 lakh Hindus from Kashmir?
17. In 1947, when India was partitioned, the Hindu population in Pakistan was about 24%. Today it is not even 1%. In 1947, the Hindu population in East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) was 30%. Today it is about 7%. What happened to the missing Hindus? Do Hindus have human rights?
18. In contrast, in India, Muslim population has gone up from 10.4% in 1951 to about 14% today; whereas Hindu population has come down from 87.2% in 1951 to 85% in 1991. Do you still think that Hindus are fundamentalists?
19. Do you consider that – Sanskrit is communal and Urdu is secular, Mandir is Communal and Masjid is Secular, Sadhu is Communal and Iman is Secular, BJP is communal and Muslim league is Secular, Dr. Praveen Bhai Togadia is ANTI-NATIONAL and Bhukari is Secular, Vande Matharam is communal and Allah-O-Akbar is secular, Shriman is communal and Mian is secular, Hinduism is Communal and Islam is Secular, Hindutva is communal and Jihadism is secular, and at last, Bharat is communal and Italy is Secular?
20. When Christian and Muslim schools can teach Bible and Quran, Why Hindus cannot teach Gita or Ramayan?
21. Abdul Rehman Antuley was made a trustee of the famous Siddhi Vinayak Temple in Prabhadevi, Mumbai Can a Hindu – say Mulayam or Laloo – ever become a trustee of a Masjid or Madrassa?
22. Dr. Praveenbhai Togadia has been arrested many time on flimsy grounds, has the Shahi Imam of Jama Masjid, Delhi, Ahmed Bhukari been arrested for claiming to be an ISI agent and advocating further partition of Bharat?
23. When Haj pilgrims are given subsidy, why Hindu pilgrims to Amarnath, Sabarimalai & Kailash Mansarovar are taxed?
24. Afzal Guru,attacker on Parliament,isnot being put to hanging inspite of repeated otders of supreme court?Could he be spared in any muslim or christian country for the same crime? No terrorist has yet been hanged
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From the site

aSvam naiva gajam naiva
vyaaghram naiva cha naiva cha
ajaaputro balim dadyat
devo durbala ghatakah

[ अश्वं नैव गजं नैव व्याघ्रं नैव च नैव च ।
अजापुत्रो बलिं दद्यात् देवो दुर्बलघातकः ॥ ]

Roughly translated it means, ” Not the horse, not the elephant, not the tiger by any means, but it is only the lamb that is led to sacrificial alter. Even god is against the weak.”
What text was that quote extracted from??? Good stuff.
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[ अश्वं नैव गजं नैव व्याघ्रं नैव च नैव च ।
अजापुत्रो बलिं दद्यात् देवो दुर्बलघातकः ॥ ]
What text was that quote extracted from??? Good stuff.

Quoted by Sri MS Golvalkar (Sri Guruji - the second Sara-sangha-chalaka of RSS) in 'Vichar Navaneet' - arguably the foundational work about the ideology of RSS. Which shastra (if any) did he quote from - I don't know.
<!--QuoteBegin-k.ram+Nov 19 2007, 07:26 AM-->QUOTE(k.ram @ Nov 19 2007, 07:26 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>79 Hindu Temples in Malaysia Being Demolished</b>, Relocated Next to
Sewage Tanks, Being Served Notice for Demolishment, or Burnt to the Ground

From 22.2.2006 TO 13.6.2007 (one year and four months), 79 HINDU
TEMPLES in MALAYSIA were faced with:






Over the last 15 years, Hindu temples in Malaysia are being demolished
at the rate of ONE temple in every THREE weeks.

According Mr. P. Waytha Moorthy, Chairman HINDRAF (Hindu Rights Action

# From 22.2.2006 to 13.6.2007 (about one year and four months) HINDRAF
have recorded 79 Hindu temples to have been unlawfully
unconstitutionally and with impunity demolished, given notice to be
demolished, burnt down, relocated next to sewerage tanks deities
removed etc.

# From 22.2.2006 to 26.6.2006, 99 police reports have been lodged in
respect of the said Hindu temple demolishments. Not a single criminal
has been prosecuted as of date.

# From 22.2.2006 to 26.6.2006, HINDRAF have written 74 letters and
memorandums to the Attorney-General and the relevant state
authorities, but are yet to receive a single response.

For more details, contact:

P. Waytha Moorthy, Chairman HINDRAF (Hindu Rights Action Force)
No. 135-3-A, Jalan Toman 7,Kemayan Square,70200 Seremban, Negeri
Sembilan. Tel : 06-7672995/6 , Fax: 06-7672997
Email: waytha@hotmail. com



1. The Sri Ayyanar Sathiswary Alayam Temple (more than 65 years) Jalan
Davies was demolished on 22.2.2006 and the statues buried at site.

2. The Malaimel Sri Selva Kaliamman Temple Pantai(more than 100 years)
was demolished on 17.4.2006 by the Kuala Lumpur City Hall.

3. The Vaalmuniswarar Rajaamman Kovil(more than 60 years) at Lady
Templer Hospital demolished on the 3.05.2006 by City Hall Kuala Lumpur.

4. Sri Kaliamman temple at Midlands Estate, Seksyen 7, Shah Alam (more
than 100 years) was demolished by the Shah Alam City Hall on 9.5.2006.

5. The Sri Balakrishan Muniswarer temple in Setapak (more than 60
years) was partly demolished on 11.05.2006 by the Kuala Lumpur City Hall.

6. The Sri Balakrishan Muniswarer temple in Setapak was completely
demolished and deities broken up on 8.6.2006.

7. The demolished Sri Kaliamman temple at Midlands Estate, Seksyen 7,
Shah Alam was demolished for a second time on the 12.06.2006 wherein 3
main Hindu deities were hammered and smashed up to pieces with a
sledge hammer by the Shah Alam City Council enforcement officers.

8. On 1.08.2006 the Om Sri Sakti Nagamma Allaya Hindu Temple in Taman
Sri Manja, PJS 3/30 Petaling Jaya, Selangor was demolished by the
Petaling Jaya City Council.

9. Demolishment of the Sri Subramaniam temple in Country Homes,
Rawang, Selangor, Malaysia on 29.09.2006.

10. On 31.10.2006 Sri Muniswarar Temple (more than a 100 years old)
which was built on private land in Bandar Rinching, Semenyih Selangor
was demolished.

11. The demolishment of the Devi Sri Karumaniamman Hindu Temple,
Petaling Jaya Utara, Section 21, Kampung Taman Aman on 30.11.2006.

12. On 29.12.2006 Sri Muniswarar Temple (more than a 100 years old)
which was built on private land in Bandar Rinching, Semenyih Selangor
was demolished.

13. On 22/2/2007 the Sri Maha Nageswari Hindu Temple in Taman Cahaya
7, Ampang, Selangor Darul Ehsan was demolished.

14. On 15.5.2007, the JKR Sri Muniswarar Hindu Temple, Jalan Kapar,
Klang was demolished.

15. On 13.6.2007 the Sri Kaliaman Hindu temple in Midlands estate Shah
Alam was demolished.


16. The Demolishment of the Sri Maha Sivalingaeswarrar Hindu Temple,
Batu 7,
Gemas Tampin 10/04/2002.

17. The 80 year old Sri Muthumariamman Alayam Hindu Temple in Skudai Johor
Bahru was demolished in August 2006.

18. Statutes from Sungai Wangi Mathurai Veeran Temple (60 years old)
in Sitiawan, Kampung Tirali, 9th Mile Jalan Air Tawar, Sungai Wangi
Estate, Perak were hammered, smashed up and thrown into a drain and
temple demolished on 17.10.2006 by the Manjung District Council.

19. The 55 year old Kaliaman Alayam Hindu Temple in Taman Impiana
in Ipoh was demolished on 27/11/2006.


20. Kuil Hindu Sri Mariaman di Seksyen 11, Shah Alam has been given
notice to the demolished on 26.4.2006 from the Shah Alam Municipal

21. The Sri Maha Mariamman Temple Taman Intan Baiduri Selayang has
been given notice to be demolished recently (Nanban June 2006)

22. The Sri Subramaniam Temple Kg.Jawa Klang(107 years old) has been
given notice to be demolished (June 2006).

23. The Mariamman Temple Jalan Meru Bandar Setia Alam, Shah Alam (101
years old) has been given notice to be demolished (June 2006)

24. The Kg.Jawa Mariamman Temple (more than 120 years) has been given
notice to be demolish (June 2006).

25. The Sri Maha Laxhsmi temple in Sunway has been given notice to be
demolished by the Petalaing Jaya City Council in June 2006.

26. The Sri Angineer Temple in Taman Tun Dr. Ismail, Kuala Lumpur
built on a private land has been given notice to be demolished by the
Kuala Lumpur City Manager(June 2006).

27. Sri Mahamariaman Hindu Temple in Kg Semarak, Old Klang Road has
been threatened with demolishment five (5) times before on TOL
Land-Nanban( 6/7/06) pg. 12

28. Sri Sai Bala Raman Hindu Temple in Klang Jaya is being threatened
with demolishment - Nesan (7/7/06)

29. 101 year old Dewi Sri Karumari Aman Temple in 4 1/2 Mile Jalan
Meru, Klang was ordered closed by Selangor State Government on
10.07.2006 and thereafter the said temple is threatened to be
demolished to make way for housing development.

30. The 101 year old Thevy Sri Karumariamman temple's Bandar Setia
Alam, Shah Alam access road to be closed on 10.7.2006 by the Selangor
State Government and later to be demolished to make way for a private
housing development.

31. Arun Estate Temple in Shah Alam- Nesan (12/7/06) pg. 6

32. In July 2006 the 110 year old Tepi Sungai JKR Mariaman Temple was
given notice to be demolished.

33. In July 2006 the Sri Muniswarar temple in Jalan Air Panas Baru
Setapak was given notice to be demolished.

34. In July 2006, the Sri Jada Muniswarar Hindu Temple in Danau Kota,
Kuala Lumpur was given notice to be demolished.

35. Jedda Manismanar Hindu Temple in Jalan Setapak was informed to
vacate is being threatened with demolishment - Nesan(17/8/06)

36. Sri Maha Megeswari Hindu Temple in Lembah Jaya, Ampang is being
threatened with demolishment -Nesan(20/8/ 06)

37. Muniswarar Hindu Temple in Bandar Baru Ampang is being threatened
with demolishment -Nesan(20/8/ 06)

38. Sri Sakti Vinayar Hindu Temple in Kampung Ampang Indah is being
threatened with demolishment -Nesan(20/8/ 06)

39. Mariaman Hindu Temple in Kg Tasik Permai, Ampang is being
threatened with demolishment -Nesan(20/8/ 06)

40. Siti Subramariam Hindu Temple in Kg Tasik Permai, Ampang is being
threatened with demolishment -Nesan(20/8/ 06)

41. Sri Mariaman Temple (60 years old) in Section 18 given notice to
relocate on 18/10/2006.

42. Sri Kaliaman Temple (80 years old) in Section 18 given notice to
relocate on 18/10/2006.

43. Sri Vinayagar Temple (80 years old) in Section 18 given notice to
relocate on 18/10/2006.

44. Sri Mariaman Temple (109 years old) in Section 19 which has a
sacred 100 year old tree given notice to relocate on 18/10/2006.

45. Sri Mariaman Temple (100 years old) in Section 15 given notice to
relocate on 18/10/2006.

46. Sri Maha Mariaman Hindu Temple in Section 11 given notice to
relocate on 18/10/2006.

47. The 80 year old Sri Athi Muniswara Temple in Jalan Semarak, off
Jalan Gurney in Kuala Lumpur was given notice to be demolished on

48. On 21.11.2006 the Sivaksakthi Linggeswara Hindu Temple in Kampung
Tropikana, Jalan Padang Tembak, Subang Jaya given notice to be demolished.

49. The Sri Kamatchie Amman Telecoms Temple Cheras (more than 100
years) is being threatened with demolishment.

50. Despite receiving recognition from UNESCO, Nageswari Hindu Temple
in Bangsar is being threatened with demolishment.


51. The Sri Muniswarar Aalayam Seremban (150 years) and a 150 year old
Raintree have been threatened with demolishment since March 2006 by
the District and Land Office .

52. On 26.6.2006 the 110 year old the Sri Chinna Karuppan Temple in
Masai Johor was given notice to be demolished.

53. The 60 year old Saiva Muniswarar Temple Temple in Sg.Petani Kedah
given notice to be demolished (Nanban 29.6.2006 pg 4)

54. Sri Muthumariaman Aman Skudai Hindu Temple (70 years old) in
Lindon Estate risks being demolished- Nesan (3/7/06) pg. 7

55. Sri Muniswarar Temple in Slim River- Nesan (14/7/06)

56. On 15.7.2006 the Muniswarar Temple in Sitiawan was given notice to
be demolished- Nanban(15/7/ 06)

57. Hindu Temple is being threatened with demolishment - Nesan
(19/7/06) pg. 6

58. Sri Nageswari Amman Alayam Hindu Temple is being threatened with
demolishment - Nesan (19/7/06) pg. 6

59. Muniswarar Hindu Temple is being threatened with demolishment -
Nesan (19/7/06) pg. 6

60. Sri Sakti Viyanayagar Hindu Temple is being threatened with
demolishment - Nesan (19/7/06) pg. 6

61. Sri Maha Mariaman Hindu Temple is being threatened with
demolishment - Nesan (19/7/06) pg. 6

62. Sri Subramaniam Hindu Temple is being threatened with demolishment
-Nesan (19/7/06) pg. 6

63. Muthu Mariaman Hindu Temple in Liutan Estate Skudai threatened to
be demolished on 13.08.06.

64. Sri Subramaniam Hindu Temple in Kampar is being threatened with
demolishment -Nesan(21/8/ 06)

65. Bangi Mariaman Hindu Temple is being threatened with demolishment
-Nesan(23/8/ 06)

66. Taman U Hindu Temple in Skudai, Johor Bahru was on the verge of
being demolished when about 600 Hindu devotees protested on 23.08.06.

67. Sri Mathuraimeeran Hindu Temple in Kampar Taman, Sri Wangi is
being threatened with demolishment -Nanban(25/8/ 06).


68. The Ganggai Muthu Karumariaman temple in PMR Batu Buntung Estate
Kedah on 15.5.2006 was torched by unknown / mysterious criminals.

69. The Sri Kalikambul Kamadeswarar temple in Ebor Estate Batu Tiga,
Shah Alam Selangor.

70. The Sri Kalkattha Kaliamman temple in Kampung Sungai Kayu Ara,
47400 Petaling Jaya.


71. The Sri Muneeswarar JKR Temple, Batu 5/12, Jalan Kapar, 42100
Klang, Selangor (73 years old) was given notice to be demolished
forced to be relocated next to a severage tank (June 2006). (Hindraf)

72. Sri Kumaravel Hindu Temple in Kampung Medan, Petaling Jaya,
Selangor was forcibly relocated next to a sewarage tank, electric
station (TNB) and high voltage cable on 14.07.2006 . (Makkal Osai 15.7.06)

73. Mariaman Hindu Temple in Bukit Beonang, Taman Bukit Melaka forced
to relocate next to sewerage tank.(Nanban 25/8/2006)

74. Sri Raja Rajeswarar Hindu Temple in Taman Tunku Jaafar, Senawang,
Seremban. (Hindraf)

75. Mariaman and Perumal Hindu Temple in Puchong Perdana, Selangor.
(DAP sources)

76. Mariaman Temple in Desa Mewah, Sunway Semenyih forcibly relocated
next to a septic tank. (Bandar Rincing, Semenyih Temple Chairman)


77. Statues from 73 year old JKR Sri Muniswarar Temple, Jalan Kapar
Klang Temple was forcibly removed and taken away under mysterious
circumstances in July 2006.

78. Deities from the Devi Sri Karumariaman Hindu Temple, Petaling Jaya
Utara, Section 21, Kampung Taman Aman forcibly removed and left in a
construction site.

79. Kaliamman Hindu Temple, Jalan Matin Batu 5 Seremban (more than 28
years) deities and temple bell was removed. (Nanban - 3.9.2006)

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Indian protest rocks Malaysia ahead of polls

KUALA LUMPUR (Reuters) - Malaysia's ethnic Indian community staged its biggest anti-government street protest on Sunday when more than 10,000 protesters defied tear gas and water cannon to voice complaints of racial discrimination.

The sheer size of the protest, called by a Hindu rights group, represents a political challenge for the government as it heads toward possible early elections in the next few months.

Ethnic Indians from around the country swarmed into Kuala Lumpur for the rally, despite a virtual lock-down of the capital over the previous three days and warnings from police and the government that people should not take part.

"Malaysian Indians have never gathered in such large numbers in this way...," said organizer P. Uthaya Kumar, of the Hindu Rights Action Force (Hindraf).

<b>"They are frustrated and have no job opportunities in the government or the private sector. They are not given business licenses or places in university," he said, adding that Indians were also incensed by recent demolitions of Hindu temples.</b>

Riot police fired at the protesters with sustained volleys of tear gas and jets of water laced with an eye-stinging chemical, but it took more than five hours to finally clear the streets of downtown Kuala Lumpur, by then littered with empty gas canisters.

Veteran journalists and analysts could not recall a bigger anti-government protest by ethnic Indians, who make up about 7 percent of the population, although some said a larger rally had been held over internal Indian politics in the late 1980s.

Political columnist Zainon Ahmad said the protest would shake the Indian community's establishment party, the Malaysian Indian Congress (MIC), a junior member of the ruling coalition.

"The MIC is severely challenged on this matter," he said.

MIC leader S. Samy Vellu, who is also works minister, denied the protest spelt trouble for his party. "We represent the Indian community and will remain so," he said in a statement.

But Vellu, who has himself voiced unease over a recent Hindu temple demolition by local authorities outside the capital, added: "There is still a lot to be done for the Indians and we will continue with our struggle."


Many protesters complained of a lack of educational and business opportunities, saying a government policy in favor of majority ethnic Malays had marginalized them.

Malays make up about 60 percent of the population and, according to official data, remain the poorest group by some average measures such as household income. <b>Opposition groups say the most severe cases of poverty exist among Indians.</b>

Brought over as indentured labor from the late 1800s by colonial ruler Britain, Indians worked Malaya's rubber estates. These estates were later broken up, forcing many unskilled Indian workers into poverty in the city.

Sunday's protesters wanted to hand a petition to the British embassy in support of a legal claim by Hindraf for reparations from Britain for colonial-era abuses. But Hindraf said the protest was also aimed at the Malaysian government.

"We are here for our rights," one protester told Reuters as he sat on the road.

"The British brought our forefathers here 150 years ago," he added. "Whatever the government is supposed to give us, to look after our welfare, well, they have failed."

Police fired tear gas outside Kuala Lumpur's iconic twin towers and five-star hotels. Curious tourists ventured out to take a look but rushed back inside once the gas stung their eyes.

At the Batu Caves, a Hindu place of worship just outside the capital, police clashed with 2,000 protesters early on Sunday after barring entry to the temple.

Many Malaysians, including an Indian Muslim group, opposed the rally, fearing it could spark violence. Malaysia has not experienced a major race riot since 1969, but many seasoned politicians fear racial and religious tensions could flare again.

Organizers said 400 had been arrested and 19 injured. Police said they had no figures.

It was the second crackdown this month on a demonstration critical of the government, as speculation grows that Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi will call snap elections early next year. The next election is not due until May 2009.

Early in November, about 10,000 protesters demanding electoral reform defied a police ban to rally in the capital.
<span style='color:red'>Action Alert -- Malaysia Update</span>

Malaysian authorities have banned the Hindu protest march scheduled for Sunday, November 25, 2007 in Kuala Lumpur and organized by the Hindu Rights Action Force (HINDRAF; http://policewatchmalaysia.com/). They also arrested HINDRAF's top leaders and charged them with sedition. The protest march is in the context of Hindu temple destruction in Malaysia and the assault on minority human rights in the Islamic Republic of Malaysia. <b>Please call the Malaysian Embassy in Washington DC to register your protest, or fax or email the letter below to the Malaysian Prime Minister. </b> The contact details are included below.

For HAF's recent press release on this, visit http://www.hafsite.org/media_press_release...sia_temples.htm .

For HAF's 2006 annual human rights report entitles, "Hindus in South Asia and the Diaspora: A Survey of Human Rights 2006", visit http://www.hafsite.org/reports.htm.

Dr. Mihir Meghani
President, Hindu American Foundation

November 24, 2007

H.E. Dato' Ghazzali bin Sheikh Abdul Khalid

Embassy of Malaysia
3516 International Court, N.W.
Washington, DC. 20008
United States of America

Embassy Telephone: (202) 572-9700, Fax: (202) 572-9882, and E-mail: malwash@kln.gov.my
Prime Minister Fax 603-88883444 and Emails: ppm@pmo.gov.my, abdullah@kdn.gov.my

Your Excellency Dato' Ghazzali bin Sheikh Abdul Khalid:

I write to protest the destruction of Hindu temples by Malaysian state government officials, and your government's refusal to allow Hindus to protest such temple destruction. These actions by your government targeting the minority Hindu community are an unfortunate reminder to the world of the serious threat to human rights of minorities in Malaysia.

Some of the Hindu/Indian leaders who were spearheading the effort to protest government action have been arrested on the grounds of sedition. Reuters reports that "Malaysian police swooped on Friday (November 23) on organizers of a planned protest by minority ethnic Indians, arresting them for sedition and warning of racial strife if the rally went ahead as planned at the weekend" (http://tinyurl.com/2oan9y). Hindu Americans take strong exception to such provocative police action and deem it an assault on the human rights of minorities in Malaysia.

We urge you to allow the gathering of Malaysian Hindus on November 25, 2007 to submit a petition to the British High Commission in Kuala Lumpur. The petition refers to the class action lawsuit filed by the Malaysian Indian community against the Government of the United Kingdom for its failure to protect the minority Indian community's rights when it drafted the Constitution of Malaysia 50 years ago.

Unfortunately, your government restricts Freedom of Peaceful Assembly and Association contrary to Article 20 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (1948) and Article 10 of the Malaysian Federal Constitution. Consequently, the application filed by Malaysian Indians to hold gatherings was arbitrarily rejected by the police.

Your government has also tried to suppress a campaign launched by a Non-Governmental Organization, the Hindu Rights Action Force (HINDRAF) to obtain 100,000 signatures in support of a civil suit against the Government of the United Kingdom. HINDRAF has accused your officials of intimidating and instilling fear in the Indian community. The intimidating tactics of your officials include the following:

a) Threat of arrest under the draconian Internal Security Act.

b) Threat to demolish temples (if gatherings are held in the temples).

c) Threat of arrest and criminal prosecution of venue owners for aiding in holding events.

d) Sealing of temples and all access roads leading to the temples.

e) Placing hundreds of riot police fully armed near the temple premises, etc.

We urge you to pay heed to the urgent calls of the Hindu minority community. Temple destruction should be stopped forthwith, and a high-level committee should be set up to systematically deal with issues relating to land on which temples stand, and to the rights of Hindus to worship at their temples. The public protest by Malaysian Hindus on Sunday, November 25, 2007 should not be thwarted.

Finally, we urge you to drop sedition charges against the HINDRAF leaders and release Mr. Waytha Moorthy from prison immediately.


Member, Hindu American Foundation

Bump. Viren's post above is important.
<span style='color:red'>Violation of hindu human rights in Malaysia and class action</span>


Hindus in South Asia and the Diaspora: A Survey of Human Rights 2006



= = == = = the 18-Pt Memo Submitted to PM Abdullah

50th year Merdeka (Independence) demands by the two (2) million ethnic minority Indians in Malaysia to Y.A.B. Dato' Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi Prime Minister of Malaysia on Sunday the 12th day of August 2007 at 10.00a.m at Seri Perdana, Putrajaya Malaysia.

1. Whereas:
The Reid Commission was appointed by her Majesty the Queen of England and the Conference of Rulers in 1956 with the view to Malaya (and now Malaysia) achieving independence by August 1957.Among the primary terms of reference of the Reid Commission were a Common Nationality for the whole of the Federation.
2. And whereas

The overwhelming of the 131 written memoranda submitted to the Reid Commission as evidenced by the declassified documents from the Public Records Office, Kew, London, United Kingdom which represented the will and wishes of the then Malayan population were primarily equality and equal opportunities etc for all Malayans irrespective of race or religion as follows: -
2.1 In the grant of state land,
2.2 Admission to public and administrative service;
2.3 To trade and do business, licences, permits etc
2.4 Primary, secondary, skills Training, university and overseas university education.2.5 No special privileges for the Malays,
2.6 No discrimination of any ethnic community based on race or religion,
2.7 The retention of all their places of worship in particular Hindu temples, crematoriums and burial sites,
2.8 Freedom of Religion,
2.9 Malaya is to be a Secular State and not an Islamic state,
2.10 Right to mother tongue education in particular Tamil schools to be fully aided,
2.11 Minimum wage for the lowest paid, and
2.12 Equal recognition as sons of soil for all Malayan born .

3. And whereas
Based on the aforesaid proposals the Malaysian Federal Constitution, which is the supreme law of Malaysia as drawn out by the Reid Commission in 1957 was passed by the inaugural Malayan Parliament and which formed the basis of independent Malaysia.
4. And whereas
Over the last 50 years since independence on the 31st day of August 1957, the United Malays Organisation (UMNO) controlled Malaysian government with their majoritarian might, and backed by police, Attorney General's Chambers, Judiciary, civil service and the media continuously violated the Malaysian Federal Constitution by their racist and Islamic extremist policies and which in effect have created an apartheid system ala Malaysia and especially resulting in the degeneration of at least 70% of the ethnic minority Indians to become the underclass of Malaysia who end up in the poor and hardcore poor category. The rest of the 29% raised above the poor and hardcore poor category wholly and/or substantially through their own efforts, sacrifices and labour with no or very little assistance by the UMNO controlled government. The 1% of the cream thrives anyway.
5. And whereas
The plight of the Indians have been made worse by the racist UMNO mindset having spilled over to even almost all of the Opposition parties, NGOs', Civil society, Malaysian Human Rights Commission ( Suhakam), Bar Council, the media etc who do not take up the Indian plight for they are deemed to be lacking "political mileage" (race based) and/or no funding.
6. And whereas
The Indians having no or very little opportunities for upward mobility or hope either turn to crime (60% of Malaysian detainees are Indians though they are only 8% of population-Suhakam 2005) or end up committing suicide which is 1000% higher than Malays (Utusan Malaysia 12.9.2005).
7. And Whereas at a public forum attended by 1,000 over Indians on 28.7.2007 at 7.00p.m at the Selangor Chinese Assembly Hall, the participants unanimously resolved to forward their 18 point demands and which this peaceful assembly gathered here today on the 12 th day of August 2007 at Putrajaya once again unanimously resolves to demand as hereinbelow outlined.
And now it is hereby demanded for and on behalf of the two (2) Million ethnic minority Indians in Malaysia from the UMNO controlled Malaysian Government their 18 point demands as follows:

(1) End 50 years of violations of the Malaysian Federal Constitution.
(2) End Racism, end Islamic extremism and end Malay privileges on the 50th year golden jubilee mega Independence celebrations of Malaysia on 31st August 2007.
(3) Call for affirmative action plans for all poor Malaysians especially the ethnic minority Indians. A Protection of Ethnic Minority Malaysian Indian Act 2007 be passed to secure and safeguard the interests of the poor and defenceless ethnic Indian Minority Community.
(4) All 523 Tamil Schools in Malaysia be made fully aided government schools with immediate effect and to have equal and same facilities as granted to national schools especially in terms of financial allocations, sufficient graduate teaching staff, financial allocation for extra tuition, ample computers, Information Technology facilities, school fields, sports, recreational facilities, air conditioned library, textbook loans, kindergarden, school uniforms and pocket money for poor pupils, nutritional food programmes, teaching aids, school building, infrastructure, film screening room and facilities, financial assistance for poor students, rehabilitation classes, non Muslim religious classes, etc. A RM 100 Billion grant @ 20 Billion per year with effect from 2007 be allocated to Indians under the 9th Malaysia Plan (5 years) for refurbishing the existing 523 Tamil schools and rebuilding of the 300 Tamil schools demolished over the last 50 years.
(5) Extend and implement with immediate effect to Indians the affirmative action plans, grants, scholarships, loans etc as extended to Malay Muslim citizens with the view to providing equal opportunities for higher education, university education, admission to foreign universities, post graduate studies locally and overseas, Trade and Skills Training Institutions, Science Colleges especially for each and every Indian student from the 70% poor and hardcore poor Indian category.
(6) Extend and implement with immediate effect affirmative action plans as extended to Malay Muslim citizens with the view to provide equal opportunities in acquiring wealth, venturing into business, trade, industries, medium and small scale industries, government linked companies, corporate sector, procurement of direct government contracts, in acquiring licenses for contractors, blue chip and / or guaranteed return shares, lorry, taxi and bus permits, loans and licenses to venture into trade, business banking and the corporate sector for each and every Indian from especially the 70% poor and hardcore poor Indian category. To this effect the UMNO controlled government allocates RM100 Billion at RM20 Billion per annum with effect from 2007 and implements successful strategic schemes in investments for the Indians as implemented for the Malay Muslims with the view to the Indians acquiring at least 10% of the nation's equity.
(7) All the aforesaid is to be handled directly by the UMNO controlled government and UMNO is to stop "playing politics" through the "Mandore" (supervisor) system by dishing out on a piecemeal and/or peanuts basis or merely public and/or newspaper announcements and declarations by the Malaysian Indian Congress ( M.I.C) who have no or very little power or say in the UMNO controlled Malaysian government.

(8) 20% of the Government top most level postings (Secretaries Generals), Middle level Management (Directors) and management level (Managers) postings, and the same for the Private Sectors, and positions of District Officers; Foreign and Diplomatic Service positions, civil service positions are reserved for Indians for the next 15 years.
(9) The UMNO controlled government makes public and is transparent on all of the aforesaid affirmative action plans i.e. the aforesaid education places, licenses, scholarships, grants, loans, permits, licenses, opportunities etc by publishing the same in the official website of the Government of Malaysia as and when the same is granted and/or on a monthly basis specifying the Indian beneficiaries thereto.
(10) Stop the indiscriminate unconstitutional and unlawful demolitions of Hindu temples, crematoriums and burial sites in Malaysia. All existing Hindu temples, crematoriums and burial sites be granted state land and permanently gazetted as Hindu temple reserves as has been done for all Islamic places of worship and burial sites. Compensation at RM10 Million per temple be paid by the UMNO controlled Malaysian Government for the 15,000 Hindu temples demolished up to date over the last 50 years.
Every individual given the Right to practice and profess Religion/s of his/her choice in accordance to Standards adopted by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights 1948. The State and its Authorities barred from interfering in the personal beliefs and conscience of individual citizens . Disputes between Muslims & Non Muslims should be adjudicated in the Civil Courts.
(11) Stop the victimization and direct discrimination by the Police and all other state authorities of the Indians. All Malaysians earning RM 3,000.00 and below are to be fully borne by state funded legal aid for any criminal charges they face.
(12) The UMNO controlled government forms with immediate effect a Royal Commission of Inquiry into the Kg Medan Mini Genocide, condemns the violence thereto, apologises to the Indian community on this mini genocide, undertakes not to repeat the same in future and pay a compensation of RM1,000, 000.00 for each and every citizen killed, permanently maimed, maimed or injured in this tragedy.
(13) Each and every Indian especially the Indian poor in the aforesaid 70% Indian poor and hardcore poor category is paid compensation which is to be adjudicated and determined by the United Nations Secretary General for the aforesaid 50 years of Constitutional violations by the UMNO controlled government.
(14) All homeless Malaysians are to be provided affordable homes and not low cost flats by law. A minimum wage of RM1,000.00 for each and every Malaysian be made law.
(15) A Royal Commission of Inquiry is initiated to report on the aforesaid constitutional violations by the UMNO controlled government and appropriate recommendations for amongst others further affirmative action plans for especially the 70% Indian poor and hardcore poor category.
(16) All forms of racial and religious discrimination, oppression and suppression of the Indians / Hindus in both the public and private sectors are stopped with immediate effect and a Race Relations Commission Act 2007, an Equal Opportunities Commission Act 2007 and a Freedom of Religion Commissions Act 2007 be passed and powerful Commission thereto be put into force to give effect to anti racism, anti Islamic extremism and anti direct discrimination practices by the UMNO controlled government in both the public and private sectors.
(17) The UMNO controlled government passes specific laws to give effect to the Independence of the Judiciary, the Attorney General's Chambers, Civil service, Police Force, Army, the Malaysian Human Rights Commission and the Malaysian media and for the Opposition parties, NGOs' Civil Society groups, Bar Council and the media not to discriminate and side step Indian issues but instead to voice out the same without fear or favour. The Malaysian media is also to be legislated to report the real happenings especially on the 70% Indian poor and hardcore poor without fear or favour.
(18) A minimum of 20 Opposition members of Parliament are elected exclusively by the Indian Community to represent their interest at the highest political level and also as a Parliamentary Democracy check and balance and the same is safeguarded and entrenched into the Federal Constitution and which is to be increased proportionately with the increase in Parliamentary seats.

Proposer: P.Waytha Moorthy Seconder: V.K Regu; (Chairman, Hindraf) (Secretary, Hindraf)
Compiled by P.Uthayakumar legal Adviser, Hindraf based on the ground reality, sentiments, pulse, blood, sweat and tears of the Malaysian Indians after 50 years of marginalisation, discrimination, oppression and suppression by the UMNO controlled Malaysian Government.


Read on at
Another Master Stroke of Sri Tarun Vijay. I wonder how long will TOI online allow him to write on it. Print version of TOI anyway skips his articles.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><span style='color:red'>Intolerant Malaysia, tolerant faith?</span>
28 Nov 2007, 1136 hrs IST,Tarun Vijay

When Hindus gathered courage and protested in an unprecedented solidarity on November 26 in Kuala Lumpur, they were crushed brutally by the Malay police using chemicals in the water cannons. None of those who had put up a united front against a cartoon created in Denmark felt anything bad or condemnable in the injustices meted out to the Hindus in an Islamic country. When it's a question of Hindus getting unfair treatment in a Muslim majority region, the 'civil, sophisticated and articulate' Muslim intellectuals take refuge in the statement that it's a matter concerning a foreign country. But when it's a question regarding a cartoon or a fatwa for beheading a writer, they say -we are a global Ummah, anything happening anywhere to Muslims is our common concern! All big lies and a bigger hypocrisy traded in the name of a religion.

This year Diwali was not celebrated openly by Malaysian Hindus in protest against the demolition of one of their most revered shrines, the hundred-year-old Maha Mariamman temple in Padang Jawa. In the last fifteen years, hundreds of Hindu temples have been demolished and the number of forcible conversions and unfair treatment on religious grounds has been constantly increasing. The tragic case of Revathi was just a recent one.

Moorthy Maniam was a Malaysian Hindu hero. After he died, a group of Muslims claimed he'd made a deathbed conversion. Despite his widow's protests, the Sharia courts declared that he should be buried as a Muslim. "They used Moorthy to show that in this country, Islam is supreme", complained his lawyer.

In the 1980s, Malaysia's Sharia courts were given equal power to the civil courts, creating two parallel legal systems. But while the Sharia courts are constantly trying to extend their authority, secular courts are reluctant to challenge them.

Malaysia which tries to woo Indian tourists with an aggressive media campaign claiming-it's a 'truly Asian' destination, has become a hotbed of Islamic intolerance and barbarities on non-Muslims. It has sixty per cent Malay Muslim population with Chinese, mostly Buddhists, comprising twenty-five per cent. Malays of Indian origin constitute about eight per cent and Tamil Hindus are ninety per cent amongst the Indian origin population. There is a fair number of Indian Muslims too.

Indian Malays were taken there by the British as plantation workers in the late nineteenth century and have now become an inseparable part of Malay life. In fact, from the second century to the 14th century, Malay Peninsula has seen Hindu kingdoms and a way of life beautifully expressed in arts, culture, language and Shaivite values. Sanskrit's influence over their language is visible all over, yet the Malay Muslims choose to express their affinity with the Arabs and deny their ancestral heritage.

Politically, Indian-origin Malays follow the Malaysian Indian Congress (MIC), established in 1946 as an instrument of independence from the British rule. Malaysia, freed in 1957, remained a practising pluralistic society till Islamic fundamentalism grew in the last two decades bringing Arab money and intolerance with it. Now it has parallel Islamic courts, functioning along with the civil ones, which are obviously more influential.

Malay Hindus have their leader in Datuk Seri Samy Vellu, president of the MIC and a minister in the14-party coalition government who mustered courage to protest against temple demolitions by declaring a 'private' Diwali this year. However, instead of being supported by the country's Muslim intelligentsia, he was booed, and in a rally addressed by Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, people demanded his ouster from the cabinet as a 'trouble maker'.

Hindus seems to be losing hope on all fronts and are making last-ditch efforts to attract attention by any which way to their sorry state of affairs. An umbrella organisation of thirty Hindu NGOs has been formed under the banner of Hindu Rights Action Force or HINDRAF that had called for the successful demonstration on November 26. Earlier a court had banned the rally – but HINDRAF workers – gathered in an unprecedented number – twenty thousand by a modest count –defied the ban and had their voice heard throughout the world. A nation, which has seen centuries of Hindu influence nurturing its socio-cultural milieu, suddenly turned against her own people when Arab-Islamic influence grew, resulting in the dispossession of minority rights. It has tried now to completely eradicate its Hindu history being taught in the schools, including the descriptions regarding ancient Ganga Negara (2nd to 11th century), Langka Asuka(2nd to 14th century) and Sri Vijaya empire(3rd to 14th century) in different parts of the earlier greater Malay Peninsula.

It's a reflection of India's secular government that the Malay Hindus of Indian origin chose to knock at the British doors, strangely petitioning the British government, Malaysia's former colonial ruler, to pay two million dollars each to every Indian-origin Malay as compensation for 'putting them in a situation of darkness and exploitation' which was a result of bringing their ancestors as indentured labourers a century before. They are discriminated on religious grounds and economic opportunities are not available to them.

"Over the years Indians have been marginalised in this country and we now want the same rights as enjoyed by other communities," M. Kulasegaran, opposition lawmaker with the Democratic Action Party (DAP), told the media. "This gathering is unprecedented, this is a community that can no longer tolerate discrimination." said HINDRAF leader P. Uthayakumar. The demonstrators had gathered at Batu Caves Hindu temple and many of them carried posters of Mahatma Gandhi. But, sadly, there was no murmur amongst the Indian authorities in Delhi or in their High Commission in Kuala Lumpur about it

Indian secularism prevents South Block to go vocal on injustices meted out to Indian-origin people if they happen to be Hindus. Only Muslim sensibilities are deemed fit to be entertained by Indian envoys abroad. This message further emboldens the jihadi intolerant rulers to take Hindus in their country for granted as a forlorn people for whom none would bother. Malay Chinese are given a voice by Singapore's influential leaders of Chinese origin like Lee Kuan Yew and Christians get full support from the US, UK and other European governments. Only Hindus, who have no other country on this earth but India to look upon for any moral support, are left abandoned.

Sometimes I feel amazed to see that how highly educated people who shine in politics and academics can be so ruthless towards their own fellow citizens as to deny them basic human rights. Like a place of worship and a choice to adhere to a faith of choice. Why have the societal ruptures been so visibly strong in countries where Islamists form majority? We have enough such examples from Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi and Malaysian incidents that have a common thread – wherever the Muslims are in majority the rights and freedom of the non-Muslims are severely curtailed.

Take for example Kashmir. It's the only state in India which is a Muslim majority and see what happened there. Hundreds of temples were razed, Hindus were forced to flee, their women were raped, children were killed and houses forcibly occupied. The Muslims in Kashmir have been enjoying a special status under Constitution's Article 370, hardly any central law is enforced there, the number of income-tax payers is among the lowest and unlike other poor states, J&K gets 90 per cent central financial assistance as grants and only 10 per cent as loans. Still there are complaints that a 'Hindu central government discriminates'. The other minority, Buddhists mostly located in Ladakh , too, are harshly treated and discriminated against by the mainly Sunni Muslim governance in Srinagar. The Buddhist Association, Leh, has been submitting memorandums to the central government about how Buddhist youths are denied jobs and a fair chance to join the Kashmir Administrative service and

professional colleges in spite of clearing the entrance exams. The number of Buddhist minorities is fast decreasing causing concern amongst their leaders. Even their dead are not allowed to be buried in Muslim-majority Kargil area and monasteries have been denied to be built.

If that can happen in a Hindu majority India's Muslim majority state, one can imagine the position of Hindus in a Muslim majority country like Pakistan. A report of the United Nations Committee on the International Convention on Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (CERD Committee) says, 'The Constitution of Pakistan segregates its citizens on the basis of religion; and provides preferential treatment to the Muslims. While Article 2 of the Constitution declares Islam as "the State religion of Pakistan" and the Holy Quran and Sunnah to be "the supreme law and source of guidance for legislation to be administered through laws enacted by the Parliament and Provincial Assemblies, and for policy-making by the Government", under Article 41(2) only a Muslim can become President. Further, Article 260 of the Constitution differentiates "Muslim" and "Non-Muslim" thereby facilitating and encouraging discrimination on the basis of religion.

The Constitution is so glued to providing preferential treatment to the majority Muslims that even a Hindu judge has to take the oath of office in the name of "Allah". On 24 March 2007, Justice Rana Bhagwandas, a Hindu, while being sworn in as Acting Chief Justice of Pakistan, being the senior most judge after the suspension of Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry, had to take oath with a Quranic prayer - "May Allah Almighty help and guide me, (A'meen)".

The Hindus and Hinduism have been maligned and hatred against them is propagated in the text books approved by the National Curriculum Wing of the Federal Ministry of Education. Among others, Hindus have been stated as "enemy of Islam" in the textbooks of Class V.

I hate to look disillusioned and always try to see something positive and hopeful for my columns but to avoid the smoke around your neck is as calumnious as to see bad where everything is otherwise resplendent with nobility. Last week I met an important Malaysian foreign dignitary over lunch at Taj Chambers, when during the course of our discussion about Asians, I mentioned the plight of Malaysian Hindus. He simply rubbished all that had appeared in the international newspapers and channels saying 'small matters are presented hundred times larger than the real quantum of gravity'. 'We are a very tolerant society'. Really?

I feel the best way to deal with this is to use our growing economic clout to shaft Malayasia. They should get the message that mistreating Indians comes at a price. Anyone remember the incident with the IT professionals? The NDA gov't at the time got the Malayasians to apologise for the mistreating those Indians.

Here is a link from DNA India
psec media and government stand exposed on their double standrads again.

When a certain doctor haneef is arrested by Australian govt, on suspicion of collaborating with terrorists, all hell breaks loose in India. That news becomes the number one headline for next 15 days, and haneef becomes a hero overnight.

GOI had no problem intervening everyday in Haneef case. Indian Embassy in Aus even sought access to him in custody.

Now, the Malaysia Hindus - no headline coverage, no footages, nothing. Govt has not even a statement to offer. CNNIBN fools are not even using the world 'HINDU' - they prefer to call them 'ethnic Indians' or Tamils, even if the organization calls itself Hindu Rights Action Force (HINDRAF). They did not even mention th every fact that these many temples have been razed.

In a TV program yesterday night, Dr. Subramanian Swamy did a good job with IBN journalists and Karunanidhi's daughter.
here is a twisted report of that program:

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->"It's not a Tamil issue. The Tamil Muslims are not participating in the agitation. It's the Tamil Hindus who are protesting and in fact the organisation which has organised the protest itself is called the Hindu Rights Action Force," Swamy said.

"The Hindus are suffering because of the unrectified effects of British imperialism. They were brought there by the Britishers as plantation workers. Also the Malaysian constitution is becoming increasingly Islamic and therefore Hindus are being targeted in that country. Hindus are targeted all over the world wherever Islamic society exists. I think it is not an ethnic Indians versus the Malaysian government problem as it is a Hindus versus Muslims problem. The Hindus there are not a votebank and they don't have a country," he added.

He said that the Government of India was full of double standards. "When it was the question of the Danish cartoonist who caricatured Prophet Mohammad, they wrote a letter to the country in question and cancelled its foreign minister's visit to India. They also made a huge hue and cry over the Haneef case in Australia. And now, here is a country where Hindus do not have a voice and this is where the Government needs to intervene."

Subramaniam Swamy however, said that it was unfortunate though that Karunanidhi had raised the topic and created an issue out of it, because the Chief Minister himself was not an ethnic Tamil and was instead, the son of Telugu immigrants.

Government is reluctantly waking up. But the issue from their prism relates to ethinc Tamils, not Hindus. Supporting an expatriate Hindu community will be a Haraam.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->With <b>ethnic Tamils</b> under attack in Malaysia, the Centre on Friday told the Rajya Sabha that New Delhi was taking up the issue with Kuala Lumpur.

"The matter is being taken up through diplomatic channels," Minister of State for Parliamentary Affairs Suresh Pachouri told the House during Zero Hour.

He was responding to the concerns of members who took strong exception to a senior Malaysian minister asking Tamil Nadu Chief Minister M Karunanidhi to 'lay off' from the happenings in that country.

Terming as condemnable the ill-treatment being meted out to ethnic Tamils, Pachouri said that after the matter was taken up with the Malaysian authorities, the External Affairs Minister would make a statement in the House.

Raising the issue, R Shanmugasundaram of the DMK drew the attention of the government to the statement of the Malaysian minister about Tamil Nadu's Chief Minister. "This is highly condemnable as the Malaysian minister has no business to talk like this. The government of India should take appropriate action," he said.

Bharatiya Janata Party member S S Ahluwalia demanded that the Malaysian envoy to India should be called to explain.

Congress leader B S Gnanadesikan expressed serious anguish over the manner in which the chief minister was snubbed by the Malaysian minister. He was joined by his party colleague V Narayanaswamy.


This reminds one of Nehru Govternment's handling of Hindu/Indian persecution under Idi Amin.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->NEW DELHI: The issue of alleged discrimination and mistreatment of ethnic Indians in Malaysia on Thursday disrupted proceedings in the Lok Sabha with members from Tamil Nadu, cutting across party lines, asking the government to take up the matter with Kuala Lumpur.

BJP members also joined the protest after S K Kharaventhan (Congress) raised the issue and were supported by all members from Tamil Nadu.

<b>BJP's Yogi Adityanath was heard remarking about the demolition of temples in Malaysia.</b>

When Kharaventhan urged the government to take steps to "protect" the ethnic Indians in Malaysia, <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>Speaker Somnath Chatterjee asked members not to say anything that would affect relations with the friendly country.</span>

Chatterjee ordered expunction of remarks by some members regarding police action against a demonstration of Malaysian Tamils, observing "we are a very responsible democracy. We don't discuss .... any other country in such a manner."

External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee was present in the House <b>but Chatterjee dismissed demands from members that he should direct the minister to respond.

At one point, the Speaker said Mukherjee is a "very responsible person" and his presence in the House was enough.</b>

As the uproar continued, the Speaker directed that the <b>live telecast of the proceedings be switched off. </b>

Chatterjee adjourned the House for 30 minutes as the din continued.


What we are seeing is a consistent state policy rolled out by Nehruvian Congress. We are a 60 year old nation, no past behind that, no connections worth talking about. Those who left "India" are not responsibility of Indian nation-state that was only born in 1947 with a certain MK Gandhi as its father. So all those who had any links with what existed before, are irrelevant as far as the policies of this 60 year old nation-state is concerned.

also notice the tone of reportage.

"<b>alleged</b> discrimination and mistreatment "

<i>take steps to "protect" the ethnic Indians</i> - protect is in quotes as if it was a joke.

Apologies if posted before, but I stumbled across this on the internet.

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Usual suspects aligned against Hindus.

They will now try and hijack it into a "sikular" issue, nvm the demolitions of all those temples and state sponsored kidnapping of Hindu babies and separation of Hindu families.

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