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<!--QuoteBegin-manju+Apr 24 2004, 11:01 AM-->QUOTE(manju @ Apr 24 2004, 11:01 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Dhoti and Panche in the South <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What is Panche? - Sundar

<!--QuoteBegin-sundara03+Jul 2 2006, 07:29 AM-->QUOTE(sundara03 @ Jul 2 2006, 07:29 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-manju+Apr 24 2004, 11:01 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(manju @ Apr 24 2004, 11:01 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Dhoti and Panche in the South <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What is Panche? - Sundar
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It is the 5 knotted veShTi (dhoti).

<span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><b>YOU HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR USR NAME TO ONE WITHOUT NUMBERS. </b></span>

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Are they allowed to go by without derisive comments being passed at them.That is what I heard.Derivise alerks are said to be passed at t hem to make them revert back to the original dress code.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Are they allowed to go by without derisive comments being passed at them.That is what I heard.Derivise alerks are said to be passed at t hem to make them revert back to the original dress code.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes you keep hearing many things but when it comes to concrete evidence you have nothing to show.

<!--QuoteBegin-O Vijay+Nov 3 2003, 08:24 AM-->QUOTE(O Vijay @ Nov 3 2003, 08:24 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Vishal, there is nothing wrong with langoti.  I believe that is worn by wrestlers and kabbadi players(?).

The American version of this attire is called the thong (or g-string) and it is getting very popular with both men and women.
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Interesting topic... can discuss a lot...

Langoti or kaupina . or almost same.. our orginal underwear.. many of us wear it still.. i do..... <!--emo&:cool--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/specool.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='specool.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Good Day All....... <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Quite an interesting topic.

Im a South African Indian, who truly loves & appreciate the Indian way of dressing, from the Sari to wearing a bindi, from Punjabi's to Sharara's...Simply gorgeous.

Although I may have been brought up in a modern society, I do not divert from the roots of my culture & take pride in my dressing, no matter what the occassion.

Q: Anyone out there knows, what the true meaning of a 'Bindi' is?

Thank you....Best wishes

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<!--QuoteBegin-Krishna+Oct 24 2003, 11:23 PM-->QUOTE(Krishna @ Oct 24 2003, 11:23 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Sari does makes a women look beautiful, throw in a bindi too, but that's just my personal opinion. (<i>I mean, I fall in love with every other woman I see.........so I'm very confused on this! <!--emo&:blink:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo--> </i>)

Anyway, I tend to go more with what kind of a person she is rather than what she's wearing. I mean, if a lady is wearing a nice looking sari with a bindi and all that, but she doesn't own much grey cells then it would be a definite turn off for me. OTOH, there is another woman who's wearing a simple, not so expensive sari, but can give me a run for my money....  <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->  <!--emo&:cool--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/specool.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='specool.gif' /><!--endemo-->


PS. I would like to hear more from the female sect about what's their preferred choice of dress code? What kind of clothing makes them feel themselves? What makes them comfortable, both mentally & physically!
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Hi! I'm an Italian woman who loves saris, I've been in one of the ISKON temples here in Italy to sing the maha mantra with the devotees and I've started to read the Bhagavhad gita (sory for eventual mistakes of writing...)

In answer to your request of female opinions about saris I've started to write!
I'm tryng to find saris here in Italy, but there aren't many shops, I think saris are the best because I fell they express the personality of the woman who's wearing it better then every other kind of dress!! Thankyou for your attention! <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' /><!--endemo-->

<!--QuoteBegin-Daph_2311+Sep 28 2006, 07:54 PM-->QUOTE(Daph_2311 @ Sep 28 2006, 07:54 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Good Day All....... <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Q: Anyone out there knows, what the true meaning of a 'Bindi' is?

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HI! DAPH AND ERICA WELCOME ABOARD!
IT'S NICE TO SEE YOUR INTERESTS IN INDIAN CULTURE; DRESS BEING PART OF CULTURE.
SARI REMAINS THE MOST ELEGANT AND GRACEFUL DRESS FOR WOMAN AND IN MAHABHARATA(FROM THIS BATTLEFIELD SHRIMAD BHAGWAT GITA ORIGINATED)DRAUPADI GOT SAVED FROM ALMOST CERTAIN RAPE 'COZ OF THIS SARI.
RE: BINDI
ACCORDING TO ANCIENT INDIAN RESEARCH AND AUTHENTICATED BY GERMANS OF NOW; UNDERNEATH THE BINDI IS MOST VERSATILE POINT OF HUMAN BRAIN KNOWN AS
SAHASRA CHAKRA.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->DRAUPADI GOT SAVED FROM ALMOST CERTAIN RAPE 'COZ OF THIS SARI.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->I respectfully submit that there wasn't going to be any assault of Draupadi, the intent was only humiliation. Bhisma and the other elders there disapproved of the latter already, but they would <i>never</i> have allowed the former to take place and showed no sign of knowing or realising that that was the intention of the Kauravas. Besides, if the Kauravas assaulted Draupadi that would have been the quickest way for these kshatriyas to get kicked out from their position (to become mlecchas). Then they could never rule.
Do you have further knowledge to corroborate their intent? (I only heard the Mahabharata narrated, and never read the unabridged original, so I could well be wrong.)

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Q: Anyone out there knows, what the true meaning of a 'Bindi' is?

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ACCORDING TO ANCIENT INDIAN RESEARCH AND AUTHENTICATED BY GERMANS OF NOW; UNDERNEATH THE BINDI IS MOST VERSATILE POINT OF HUMAN BRAIN KNOWN AS
SAHASRA CHAKRA.
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Captain ji, between both the eyebrows is the Yogic Chakra called AGYAN CHAKRA (and not Sahastrar).

Meditating or focusing the yogic energy over Agya Chakra - located between one's eyebrows is one of the methods of awakening and refining the intellect, and especially these three powers: smriti (memory), vivek (concience), nirnay (decision).

Why is Bindi used? a tilak/tripund/bindi allows peaceful and calming influence upon Agyan Chaka and therefore upon intellect and its functions. Sandalwood, vermillion or other calming material is preferred.

Likewise a Choti/Shikha is also used by hindus, both males and females, on another very important Yogic center knows as Brahma Randhra. Yogis know how to pull out one's pran through this center, and this is the preferred way of quitting the body upon death, rather than other 9 lower centers. A Choti/Shikha helps awaken this center.

<!--QuoteBegin-Husky+Oct 25 2006, 05:37 AM-->QUOTE(Husky @ Oct 25 2006, 05:37 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--> so I could well be wrong.)
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As per the accounts available, they could never reach the other end of sari as it was so long.
Even in recent times, JayaLalitha, ex-CM of Tamil Nadu got saved in the middle of Legislative Assembly( in early part of her political career) 'coz of sari.
AJEY SARI <!--emo&:cool--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/specool.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='specool.gif' /><!--endemo-->

<!--QuoteBegin-Bodhi+Oct 25 2006, 06:08 AM-->QUOTE(Bodhi @ Oct 25 2006, 06:08 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Capt Manmohan Kumar+Oct 24 2006, 07:45 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Capt Manmohan Kumar @ Oct 24 2006, 07:45 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Daph_2311+Sep 28 2006, 07:54 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Daph_2311 @ Sep 28 2006, 07:54 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Good Day All....... <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Q: Anyone out there knows, what the true meaning of a 'Bindi' is?

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ACCORDING TO ANCIENT INDIAN RESEARCH AND AUTHENTICATED BY GERMANS OF NOW; UNDERNEATH THE BINDI IS MOST VERSATILE POINT OF HUMAN BRAIN KNOWN AS
SAHASRA CHAKRA.
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Captain ji, between both the eyebrows is the Yogic Chakra called AGYAN CHAKRA (and not Sahastrar).

Meditating or focusing the yogic energy over Agya Chakra - located between one's eyebrows is one of the methods of awakening and refining the intellect, and especially these three powers: smriti (memory), vivek (concience), nirnay (decision).

Why is Bindi used? a tilak/tripund/bindi allows peaceful and calming influence upon Agyan Chaka and therefore upon intellect and its functions. Sandalwood, vermillion or other calming material is preferred.

Likewise a Choti/Shikha is also used by hindus, both males and females, on another very important Yogic center knows as Brahma Randhra. Yogis know how to pull out one's pran through this center, and this is the preferred way of quitting the body upon death, rather than other 9 lower centers. A Choti/Shikha helps awaken this center.
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Bindi <!--emo&:eager--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/lmaosmiley.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lmaosmiley.gif' /><!--endemo--> is known to cover the place of 3rd eye.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->HI! DAPH AND ERICA WELCOME ABOARD!
IT'S NICE TO SEE YOUR INTERESTS IN INDIAN CULTURE; DRESS BEING PART OF CULTURE.

RE: BINDI
ACCORDING TO ANCIENT INDIAN RESEARCH AND AUTHENTICATED BY GERMANS OF NOW; UNDERNEATH THE BINDI IS MOST VERSATILE POINT OF HUMAN BRAIN KNOWN AS
SAHASRA CHAKRA.
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About Bindi, here in Italy is unusual to see someone with a bindi because the main religion is catholicism <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> , so bindi has a religious or filosophical importance, but unfortunatly here if you dress it every day, at work, at school... most of the people around you will say that you'r parading your sense of religion and of diversity... I hope this would change but it needs time, also because this is "the house" of Papa, you know?
Fortunatly my Hare Krisna friends doesn't matter of apperance and of the judgement of other people and sometimes they wear bindis out of the temple area and I'd like do so <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Hello again..... <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Thank you to each one of you for your responses on the meaning of Bindi....Much appreciated....... <!--emo&:clapping--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/clap.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='clap.gif' /><!--endemo-->

The reason I asked the Q is because I wear one every single day without fail, it is so apart of me that I will not go anywhere without it & wherever I go, people always ask me the significance of it, although I had little knowledge then, now I can provide them with some better feedback.....Thanks.

<!--QuoteBegin-rhytha+Oct 24 2003, 10:25 PM-->QUOTE(rhytha @ Oct 24 2003, 10:25 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->well men do like women in a sari,  <!--emo&:drool--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/drool.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='drool.gif' /><!--endemo--> but about the effectiveness of the sari, u need to ask a women.

also sari is not in vogue for working women, for obvious reasons.
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Ya? is 3 inch hills, thick layer of make up foundation, fake eyelashes, mascara, tight dress skirt and a dress jacket ... are they effective/comfortable in work place?... Duhhhh!!. dumbos repeating like parrots what you are told.

Indian dresses are just as comfortable as western cloths in a work place.

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Ya? is 3 inch hills, thick layer of make up foundation, fake eyelashes, mascara, tight dress skirt and a dress jacket ... are they effective/comfortable in work place?... Duhhhh!!. dumbos repeating like parrots what you are told.

Indian dresses are just as comfortable as western cloths in a work place.
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If I could I'd like to wear saris every day!!

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Ya? is 3 inch hills, thick layer of make up foundation, fake eyelashes, mascara, tight dress skirt and a dress jacket ... are they effective/comfortable in work place?... Duhhhh!!. dumbos repeating like parrots what you are told.

Indian dresses are just as comfortable as western cloths in a work place.
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If I could I'd like to wear saris every day!!
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You go girl!! with Sari you get great choice of colour, texture, patterns... and you can wear it in 18 different styles.. http://www.myrightangle.com/ssw/screenshots.asp

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You go girl!! with Sari you get great choice of colour, texture, patterns... and you can wear it in 18 different styles.. http://www.myrightangle.com/ssw/screenshots.asp
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A pity I can't wear it really every day!
Here there aren't many sari shops... hard to get them...

A link Textiles and Costumes of Early India

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Anyone know who this Macualayputri Jayaprabha is:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Burn This Saree
Burn this saree.
When I see this end
of the saree on my shoulder ..
I think of chastity a log
hung from my neck.

It does not let me stand up straight
It presses my chest with its hands
bows me down ,teaches me shame
and whirls around me
a certain bird like confusion

It hypnotizes me telling You
You are a woman
makes me forget I am human
It covers both my shoulders
with its own hands and flutters
announcing "See, see this woman! She is chaste"

I feel like screaming "No, No I am not"
But my throat does not open
I am defeated by this saree
It throws me down like a a whirl wind.

It is blame generations have laid on me.
The unseen patriarchal hand
This saree is the white shroud on the corpse
That is me in this culture of loot nd plunder

If I've to stop being the walking dead
I've to burn this saree first
just burn this saree.

-Jayaprabha

Save This Saree
Oh my beautiful saree
I love you much to tell you free
You enlighten the feminism in me
For which I should thank you much
For I am a woman first
The birth I consider the best.

When I see this end of the saree
I think of chastity enhanced by its
Long free flow.

It helps me cover my head from sun
It solaces me by wiping my tears
It straightens me to stand among the mass

And because of that it stands for generations.

If i've to stop being the walking dead
First accept woman hood is superior
Why to burn a saree?
Burn your slavery thoughts!
I need not change into a man
To become superior
And thus declaring Him superior.

-S.Santha Devi

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I suspect that she may be another assembly line product of the prestigious JNU campus.

Another white wannabe feminist trying to pass off the aspirations of white anglo saxon women as the aspirations that women all over the world should aspire to.