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  MILITARY HISTORY
Posted by: Capt M Kumar - 05-27-2010, 02:46 PM - Forum: Military Discussion - Replies (9)

No better topic than this to start this topic:

as it tells us as to how contemporary politics can mire into military history as Kargil war is considered to be BJP war.

SHILLONG: Former Army Chief General V P Malik, who led the troops during the Kargil operation, on Thursday said Brigadier Devinder Singh's case was an "aberration" and it will be "unfair" to suggest that the complete war history needs to be rewritten.



"To pass the judgement on the entire Indian Army and to suggest that complete war history was fudged and the Kargil Review committee report be rewritten, I think this is unfair. This does not take away the entire good work done by the Army. This is an aberration," he said here. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india...981975.cms <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/angry.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':angry:' />

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  Plane crash in south India -Manglore
Posted by: Guest - 05-22-2010, 05:57 AM - Forum: Newshopper - Discuss recent news - Replies (24)

[url="http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20100522/tts-uk-india-crash-ca02f96.html"]Plane crash in south India kills at least 160 people [/url]

Quote:An Air India Express passenger plane from Dubai crashed outside an airport in southern India on Saturday, killing at least 160 people when it burst into flames after overshooting the runway and ploughing into a forest.



There may have been five or six survivors, local media said.



One eyewitness said the plane skidded off the runway in rain at Mangalore airport in Karnataka state.



Air India said the plane was a Boeing 737-800, with 166 people on board, including six crew members. Air India Express is the budget arm of state-run carrier Air India.



"At least 160 passengers have died in the crash," V.S. Acharya, home minister of the southern state of Karnataka, told reporters. "At least five to six people have been taken to hospital, their condition is not known."



First indications are that the crash was an accident, officials say.



Television channels said the plane crashed around 6:30 a.m. (2 a.m. British time). TV images showed it struck a forested area. Flames were seen blazing from of some of the wreckage as rescue workers fought to bring the fire under control.



"The plane had broken into two. I jumped out of the plane after it crashed. I saw two other people also come out," Abdullah, a survivor from the plane, told local channel TV9 from hospital.



"There was tyre-burst kind of noise. I tried to get out of the front but saw that there was a big fire. So I went back again and jumped out from there."



One television channel showed a fireman carrying in his arms what seemed to be the remains of a child. Charred bodies and an engine lay in the forested terrain.



"The flight had already landed. There was slight rain. The flight skidded off," eyewitness Mohiuddin Bava told CNN-IBN channel. "After that it caught fire. Villagers, everyone there, came to rescue. The plane wings are right in front of me now."



Air India Express is the low cost arm of Air India. The budget airline started about five years ago. This is the first crash involving an Air India Express plane, according to an Air India spokesman.



Air India is a state-run loss making carrier. The government has been trying to infuse funds to revive the airline against stiff competition from private carriers.

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  social exploitation by communists of west bengal,india
Posted by: santanu - 04-28-2010, 05:50 PM - Forum: Indian Politics - No Replies

West Bengal Communists and social networking

Dr S Chakraborty

A P C Roy Polytechnic

Kolkata

West Bengal

India


I was 12 years old when communist party of India Marxist (CPIM) capture power in West Bengal at the leadership of Mr Jyoti Basu in 1977. Like my father, I enjoyed that night when voting results came as my father was strongly against congress party due to torture on people during Emergency-The regime of Mrs. Indira Gandhi. The euphoria about communists lasted in me upto 1988 when I got admitted into graduation course. Though some of the atrocities conducted by communists stuck the news at that time like cruel burning of 11 Anandamargis (a religious group) on a street and genocide in Marichjhanpi(West Bengal).

In 1989, I came to know few things about CPIM party structure.

1) Hierarchy of CPIM party:

POLITBURO-CENTRAL COMMITTEE-W.B State committee-District committee-Local committee-Branch committee- Mahalla and People committee( apolitical)

Upto branch committee all members are political and mahalla and people’s committee are so called apolitical.

2) Share of resources

The resource is generated by branch committee and local committee by different means which I will describe later on. Each committee keep with itself 50% of generated resource and the rest 50% is passed to the next higher committee.

Meanace of income by local committee and branch committee

• Subscription from local people

• Cut money( upto90%) from different Govt. of India social projects like mass education, 100 days work for poor people and so on.

• Extortion of money from building promoters in cities.

• Cut money from Municipality and village development work(50%)

• Money earned for negotiation between land-lord and tenant and family disputes

• Help people to pay less corporation tax and other taxes and thereby earn money.

• Lavy from people who get job under CPIM help.

• For any kind of activity by which people earn livelihood they have to pay commission.

• For smooth transaction of money communists formed people’s organization at every service and industry sector.

Incidentally one can’t show a single people’s activity from where the communists did not extort money.















3) Measures taken by communists to correct people who declines to pay or protest against the system:

• The communists used different tactics other than to beat the man or harass him openly

• Practically the local apolitical committees of CPIM who play a key role in social networking. These people publicly show that they are apolitical but passes information of common people to party. Each such member takes care of 10 common people. For this reason they get extra fecility from Government.

• By this way 15% active communists take scan of the whole population of West Bengal. The total scanning was completed in 1988 under the chairmanship of then CM Mr. Jyoti Basu.

• The rest is easy. If a common people tries to revolute different issues start to happen in his life, like

Problems within family

Divorce between husband and wife

Problems in his workplace

Court case

Deprive from rights etc.

• The more stringent measures were:

• Make him gradually isolated from the society

You being a common people can’t guess where it is wrong

• Most deadly weapon to humanity

One particular way the CPIM controls individual is to create a situation so that he becomes a mental patient. Suppose you are walking through the street and as you pass three group of people, they are discussing some secrets about you. You just imagine what is your condition if this situation persists for one month.

Process to win elections

Within 1992 almost 90% of the common people come to feel what is happening . So they start daring CPIM and during elections they avoid to go to the booths helping the CPIM cadres to rig the polls at most places of West Bengal. If some one dares to go to the polling booth he finds his vote already polled.

During rigging they keep in mind that above 90% polling in favour of CPIM may be a cancellation of election process.

During election where a group of people revolt the party used arms.

The apolitical stooges of CPIM found in the voting line was indicated by the party as free and fair election.

Capture the juditiary

• The party , when first came to power started politicizing school and college students. In some cases of Law college teachers, students all do politics. The examination was fair but if you investigate you will find that the questions are out and there is no evaluation. These law students, after passing out as lawyear join political organization for better carrier and when some of them becomes







judge they persue politics silently for better transfer and better fecility. Kolkata High court chief justice was also found in a land scandal involving the then Chief Minister of West Bengal.



Money Management

The total money gathered by CPIM Politburo per year from west Bengal is 2000-2500 million dollars. This huge money is managed by a few fund managers in a distributive way firstly to evade tax and to avoid vigilance. In the process money was also deposited in the name of pets.

Opposition party

The opposition party leaders are fully purchased as they enjoy all the class –A fecilities of Government. Whereas most CPIM leaders used to maintain low profile life style.



CPIM is doing all those things for last 34 years in West Bengal in the name of democracy and socialism. They call it the formation of scientific society.



Indeed it is scientific.

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  Did Hindus had atomic bombs thousands and thousands of years ago?
Posted by: RomaIndian - 04-28-2010, 06:18 AM - Forum: Trash Can - Replies (3)

With the apparent discovery of this radiated area, parallels were quick drawn to the Mahabharata, the Indian epic. It reads:



... (it was) a single projectile

Charged with all the power of the Universe.

An incandescent column of smoke and flame

As bright as the thousand suns

Rose in all its splendor...



...it was an unknown weapon,

An iron thunderbolt,

A gigantic messenger of death,

Which reduced to ashes

The entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas.



...The corpses were so burned

As to be unrecognizable.

The hair and nails fell out;

Pottery broke without apparent cause,

And the birds turned white.



After a few hours

All foodstuffs were infected...

....to escape from this fire

The soldiers threw themselves in streams

To wash themselves and their equipment.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ancien...mic_07.htm



---



I find this very fascinating - hard evidence provided

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  I got threatened by serbian white supremacists
Posted by: RomaIndian - 04-27-2010, 02:31 PM - Forum: Trash Can - Replies (6)

I posted there under my name and asked why they want to kick out all roma gypsies from serbia and discussed with them. They banned me for 5 days and said next time they will send me a bill and i have to pay 50euros. I think its a threat. And they put up in my avatar a pic of me i didnt wanted that i wanted a other or no pic, i changed it and deleted it but they again put it up against my will. Im afraid. Please help. What should i do?

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  Question on Hinduism?
Posted by: RomaIndian - 04-20-2010, 03:34 PM - Forum: Trash Can - Replies (9)

What would you improve about hinduism? Is there even anything to improve for you? Im not born a hindu but will give my opinion however. I would stop worship of unhiegynic and dangerous animals like rats and snakes. I would stop superstition like believing that retarded people are reincarnation of gods like the little girl who was born retarded and was thought by hindus to be the reincarnation of the godess lakshmi. I would not forbid idol worshipping because i think the hindu idols and arts is beautiful and something to be proud of. I would also get rid of marrying dogs or animals, tantric teachings like vagina(yoni) worship, and sects and cults like the aghoris who drink cow piss practice cannibalism and smoke weed would be forbidden because they are no saints for me. I would put on emphazy more on the monotheistic side of hinduism like the one supreme being (i know that even hindus believe in the one supreme being but with many faces). I would restrict cow worship wouldnt end it but restrict it. Cows shouldnt walk freely on the streets and block the traffic and shit on the roads, i would also allow people to eat the cow because if she is holy its ok to drink her milk and eat her meat because she will give you power i think the early santhana dharmis ate cow meat (dont quote me on that because im not sure) but she has to be respected and not tortured or killed in a painful way etc...



What do you think of my ideas? No disrespect intended. Thanks

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  BCCI Nationalised
Posted by: rcscwc - 04-20-2010, 04:10 AM - Forum: Indian Politics - No Replies

BCCI Nationalised.







Rahul Gandhi claims the credit.



Lalu wants 50% places in team to go to OBCs.







Maya too claims 15% for dalits' betas.



Paswan is adamant that only a muslim would be the captain



DMK wants that Brahmins should be shut out.



All seculars demand that Hindutva should be kept out. Karan Thapar demands that there should be no matches in Gujarat till "sudden elimination" of Modi.



Vyalar Ravi demands that all those in BCCI with connections with BJP should be jailed.



Only test matches would be played. If foreign teams do not agree then test matches between secular states should be held.



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  Anti-Hindu convention held in MIT
Posted by: agnivayu - 04-14-2010, 03:08 AM - Forum: Indian Politics - Replies (3)

Look at the pictures and the names in this article. A Christian convert Jesus Jihadi working hand in hand with Islamo-fascists and Marxists/Communists and Pseudo-secularists.



http://twocircles.net/2010apr13/report_m...india.html

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  Would you object me having a indian wife?
Posted by: RomaIndian - 04-14-2010, 12:29 AM - Forum: Trash Can - Replies (5)

My father identifies as serbian he is 3/4 his grandmother was a roma and my mother is a roma but her grand grand father was russian so im technically 9/16 roma!



Would you say "oh no he is mixed breed its interracial" or would you say "he could pass as indian and gypsies are from india its ok"?

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  Nuclear Deterrence
Posted by: Arun_S - 04-11-2010, 03:36 AM - Forum: Military Discussion - Replies (150)

Wah wah Hillary Clinton,



and PM Man Mohan Singh is towing his masters commands on flight to Brazil to join Pakistan as an equal.







URL: http://www.thehindu.com/2010/04/11/stori...801200.htm



[size="4"][color="blue"] [url="http://www.thehindu.com/2010/04/11/stories/2010041158801200.htm"]Hillary: India, Pakistan have upset nuclear deterrent balance[/url][/color][/size]



Quote:Narayan Lakshman

11/04/2010

‘U.S. working with both countries to ensure that their stockpiles are safeguarded' The risk of a nuclear attack has increased



U.S. to boost funding for maintaining weapons stockpile



WASHINGTON DC: India and Pakistan have pursued nuclear weapons “in a way that has upset the balance of nuclear deterrent,” Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Friday.



That was why the United States was working with both countries “very hard to try to make sure that their nuclear stockpiles are well tended to, and that they participate with us in trying to limit the number of nuclear weapons,” she said.



Speaking at at the University of Louisville, Kentucky, Ms. Clinton argued that the nature of the nuclear threat had changed. “As President Obama has said, the risk of a nuclear attack has actually increased. And the potential consequences of mishandling this challenge are deadly.” Nuclear terrorism presented a different challenge, but the consequences would still be devastating, she said.



Doomsday scenario



Highlighting the growing threat of nuclear terrorism and nuclear proliferation a few days ahead of the 47-nation Nuclear Security Summit in Washington, Ms. Clinton illustrated what a doomsday scenario would look like, given these risks. “A 10-kiloton nuclear bomb detonated in Times Square in New York City could kill a million people. Many more would suffer from the haemorrhaging and weakness that comes from radiation sickness.”



In the light of these risks, Ms. Clinton outlined three main elements of the U.S.'s strategy to safeguard itself and its allies from nuclear attacks: support for the basic framework of the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT); a global effort to secure vulnerable nuclear material and enhance nuclear security; and efforts to maintain a safe, secure, and effective nuclear deterrent for the U.S. itself.



Disarmament move



As for the impact of the new U.S.-Russia START on countries where non-proliferation challenges remained, Ms. Clinton said she did not suggest that moves towards disarmament by the U.S. and Russia would convince Iran or North Korea to change their behaviour. “But ask yourselves, can our efforts help…persuade other nations to support serious sanctions against Iran? I believe they could.”



Following the recently announced Nuclear Posture Review and its implications for military expenditure, the Secretary said: “Our budget devotes $7 billion to maintaining our nuclear weapons stockpile and complex…And over the next five years, we intend to boost funding for these important activities by more than $5 billion.”

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