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Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Naresh - 05-24-2008
[center]<b><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>Eating grass</span></b> <!--emo&:flush--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Flush.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='Flush.gif' /><!--endemo--> [/center]
âWE will eat grass but we will make our own nuclear bombâ â Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, 1965.
<b>The dream has finally come true. We have the nuclear bomb and our poor people can only afford to eat grass.
DR IRFAN ZAFAR
Islamabad</b>
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Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Naresh - 05-24-2008
[center]<b><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>President should quit or face impeachment : Zardari</span></b>[/center]
<b>ISLAMABAD : <span style='color:red'>Co-chairman Pakistan Peopleâs Party (PPP) Asif Ali Zardari Saturday said the President Pervez Musharraf should step down voluntarily if he (President) wants to avert impeachment.</span></b>
Addressing a press conference after the PPPâs Central Executive Committee here, Asif Zardari said his party never accepted General Musharraf as the constitutional President of the country.
He said consultations will be held with all the stakeholders on the draft constitutional package which the CEC meeting approved today.
He said the draft package also includes proposal regarding the tenure of judges but a final decision has not yet been made. The Parliament will be given the authority to deal with all the issues, he added.
To a question regarding the date of return of Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) Chief Altaf Hussain, he said MQM Chief did not say anything about this and âneither did I ask him as to when he plans to return home.â
Earlier, Federal Minister for Law, Farooq H Naek announced the significant points/ proposals contained in the 62-point draft constitutional package.
According to him the package proposes: renaming NWFP as âPukhtunkhwaâ; anyone violating his oath to be declared to have committed treason; restriction on becoming President more than two times; barring government employeesâ participation in elections; empowerment of Parliament; increasing minorities seats; restored judges to take fresh oath; National Finance Commission to meet in three years instead of five and; Prime Minister to appoint governors not the President.
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Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Guest - 05-25-2008
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The dream has finally come true. We have the nuclear bomb and our poor people can only afford to eat grass.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dream will come true. Inshallah when top cream start eating grass, I know before this will happen, they will catch first flight to UK, USA or France.
Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Guest - 05-25-2008
<b>Billions wiped off on KSEâs âblack Fridayâ</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->But nervous investors have been moving out of the equities since mid-April. The index has shed 2,664 points or 17 per cent of the value in just 24 sessions since the current meltdown began. From its dizzy height of 15,676 points on April 18, the index dived to 13,012 points on Friday. In the process, a cool sum of Rs1 trillion ($13 billion) have been wiped off the market capitalisation.
<b>The free fall of equities on Friday was exacerbated by the critical statement from PPP co-chairman Asif Ali Zardari regarding President Musharraf, evidencing fissures in the relationship between the presidency and PPP,</b> which otherwise were perceived to be smooth going.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Naresh - 05-27-2008
<b>"Syrupy" Jalebi News!</b>
[center]<b><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>Non-thinking tanks</span></b>[/center]
[center]<b><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>With the change in the government, the head of govt institutes are also changed. Dr Shireen Mazari's ouster is a case in point
<i>Nadeem Iqbal</i></span></b>[/center]
<b>It looks like a revenge scene from a movie but it has actually happened. After eight long years, Dr Tanvir Ahmed Khan, a former foreign secretary, reclaimed the title of Director General Institute of Strategic Studies Islamabad (ISSI), a post he lost to Dr Shireen Mazari in August 2002.
Despite the fact that Dr Shireen has been unceremoniously removed from the post at least 15 months before the expiry of her contract in August 2009, she has earned the distinction of being the longest serving DG of the Foreign Office-controlled think tank.</b>
[center]<img src='http://jang.com.pk/thenews/may2008-weekly/nos-25-05-2008/images/dia2a1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />[/center]
Dr Tanvir's held the post between 1998-2000. He was appointed around the time of the May 1998 nuclear detonation, and was in the lead of the pro-bomb lobby in Pakistan. However, after Gen Musharraf took over he lost favour with the military and was replaced by the hawkish Shireen Mazari.
Shireen Mazari reacted angrily on the termination of her contract on May 14. She told the media that the news of her removal was conveyed to her by the new foreign secretary Salman Bashir. She likened her removal to the sacking of former foreign secretary Riaz Muhammad Khan. She claimed the United States government had influenced her removal as she was writing hard-hitting articles highlighting US intervention in internal Pakistani affairs.
Riaz Mohammad Khan who took over as the Foreign Secretary in Feb 2005 was sacked by the PPP government last month. His term in office was due to end on Oct 1, 2008
Mazari also claimed that on May 15 she was ordered to leave the office in 15 minutes as the new DG was to take over.
Clarifying, a foreign office spokesman said: "Dr Shireen Mazari had been Director General of ISSI since August 2000. She has been the longest serving Director General of the Institute. There is no particular reason to replace Dr Mazari. Dr Mazari was a contract employee and had served with great distinction. All her contract terms will be honoured. Dr Tanvir Ahmed Khan, who is a distinguished scholar and former Foreign Secretary, will take over as the new Director General (ISSI)."
During her stint in ISSI, Mazari was more recognised for her hard-hitting views reflecting some portions of the establishment.
She has close relations with Mushahid Husain Syed, PML-Q secretary general and his wife Dushka Syed, a professor in Quaid-e-Azam university. Mushahid, a confidante of Nawaz Sharif was briefly detained after Sharif's removal but later he became an ardent supporter of Musharaf's regime.
Along with Dushka Syed, Shireen was also seen leading civil society protests in 2006 against conversion of a public park into a mini-golf court by the Capital Development Authority and in 2007 against Jamia Hafza dubbing it 'MullaGardi'. Recently she was seen openly criticising US policies and visits of PPP co-chairperson to the residence of the American ambassador.
Dr Tanvir, who had served in Benazir Bhutto's first government as foreign secretary in the late 1980s, has gradually shifted from his PTV-friendly hawkish views to a more diversified outlook on security issues. In fact after his removal as DG ISSI he gradually became a leading critic of the military-led government.
Last year he was present at the launch of Ayesha Siddiqa Agha's controversial book Military Inc. at a time when the government forbade all hotels and clubs not to give a place for the function.
In December last year, while opposing the Musharraf emergency, he was part of 20 former ambassadors and foreign secretaries who called upon Musharraf to restore the rule of law and reinstate senior judges.
Later, he also supported the PPP position that Benazir Bhutto's murder investigations should be done under UN.
Dr Khan said the government had offered him four positions including that of DG ISSI. Out of those, he must have preferred going back to his old job.
<b>Islamabad has three think tanks -- Institute of Regional Studies (IRS), ISSI and Islamabad Policy Research Institute. Their functions are not much different from each other. Over the years these think tanks have failed to produce any original work that could influence or change the country's regional or domestic policy. Most of the research done by these institutes is based on secondary sources. They are mainly following the official line on controversial issues.</b> <!--emo&:flush--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Flush.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='Flush.gif' /><!--endemo-->
ISSI is mainly seen as a think tank made for retired foreign secretaries who are accommodated as its DGs and Chairmen. During Dr Tanvir's first stint, there was no chairman but later Aga Shahi became its chairman. After his demise now former foreign secretary and minister Inamul Haq has been serving as its chairman. ISSI has two directors and seventeen research fellows.
IRS, controlled by federal information ministry, is considered a post-retirement place for military officers. Since its inception in 1982, many retired military men have served it as its president. Many of them developed the required academic credential while on the job.
The incumbent president Maj Gen. (Retd.) Jamshed Ayaz Khan took over in April 2002. Before joining the Institute, he served as Additional Secretary Defense Production (DP) Division of the Ministry of Defense from 1999-2001.
The nascent IPRI was established by a group including Shireen Mazari, Mushahid Husain and Gen Syed Rafaqat, who was also the founder president of the Islamabad Policy Research Institute (IPRI). But soon controversy struck and the president was replaced by Brig (Ret) Sahukat Qadir who was also forced to resign.
Since Oct 2000, Dr. Pervaiz Iqbal Cheema, a academician who previously served as the Chairman of International Relation's Department as well as Defence and Strategic Studies Department of Quaid-e-Azam University, has been working as IPRI's President.
<b>It has been a tradition that with the change in the government the head of these institutes are also changed. <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>No wonder Shireen's ouster was seen as the first in line.</span></b>
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Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Guest - 05-27-2008
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Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Naresh - 05-27-2008
<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+May 27 2008, 07:21 PM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ May 27 2008, 07:21 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Jaleebi is gone, very bad. <!--emo&
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<b>Mudy Ji :</b>
Now! Now!! Now!!!
I am, as usual, always a Harbinger of Good News.
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Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Naresh - 05-28-2008
<b>Mudy Ji :
Jalebi Madamâs Reply</b>
[center]<b><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>Non-thinking tanks` -- a rejoinder</span></b>[/center]
It is unfortunate when commentators get their facts wrong in their hurry to put forward the officially certified `truth`. Nadeem Iqbal has clearly fallen victim to the same in the above-titled piece in The News on Sunday (May 25), and in the process presented data that is totally false. First, I was not the longest-serving director general of the ISSI (Institute of Strategic Studies Islamabad) - the foreign office needs to check its record more carefully. That privilege goes to Brig Noor Hussain. Second, Tanvir Ahmed Khan (who unfortunately has never himself claimed to be a PhD, but others feel a compulsion to give him this title which many scholars have worked hard to acquire authentically) was appointed as chairman in his last stint at the ISSI and only acted as the DG also by virtue of that post being vacant for the duration of his chairmanship. Hence, I did not oust or replace him, but was appointed to a vacant post. His chairmanship ended over two weeks after my appointment as DG.
Additionally, if he was going to give my record of protests organised while serving as director general of the ISSI, he should also have had the courtesy to put on the record the protest organised with Nasim Zehra for the restoration of the judiciary and media freedom. As for my friendship with Mushahid Hussain, it dates back to the time he was ousted from Punjab University; while Dushka and myself go back to our days at the London School of Economics. Finally, if Mr Iqbal had actually seen the research published by the ISSI on its website he would have found it difficult to accuse the think tank of being non-productive and unoriginal in its work. It is easy to condemn, but one should at least verify facts carefully which clearly Mr Iqbal has not done. What a pity and how discouraging for the young researchers who are putting so much effort to establish themselves in an intellectually hostile environment.
<b>Shireen M Mazari
Head, Strategic Technology Resources,
Islamabad</b>
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Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Guest - 05-28-2008
<b>Pakistan coalition has agreed to expel Musharraf: Sharif</b>
It means new Army chief is in full control. It means Coup timeline will be another 12-18 months?
Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Guest - 05-28-2008
<b>Pakistan to be an industrialised country - in 159 years</b>
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Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Naresh - 05-28-2008
<b>Gwadar port canât be operational before 2011â</b> <!--emo&:flush--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Flush.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='Flush.gif' /><!--endemo-->
KARACHI: Gwadar port cannot be made operational before 2011 as it lacks required infrastructure, communication network and utilities, Minister for Ports and Shipping Qamaruzzaman Kaira said on Tuesday.
âI am shocked to learn that the port has no proper road linkages. No rail network. Even electricity is not there,â he told reporters after inaugurating an overpass on MA Jinnah Road.
He said many cases of embezzlement, corruption and misuse of authority were reported in the Gwadar port, and other allied projects. App
<b>Singapore takes over Pakistani port of Gwadar in February 2007</b>
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Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Naresh - 05-29-2008
<b>Modalities of impeachment agreed</b>
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Islamabad - The tension that severed the PML-N's ties with coalition partner PPP since quitting the federal cabinet on May 13 was defused Tuesday when PPP Co-Chairman Asif Ali Zardari unconditionally agreed to impeach President Pervez Musharraf.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - ramana - 05-31-2008
<!--QuoteBegin-"ramana"+-->QUOTE("ramana")<!--QuoteEBegin-->A US and TSP joint study despite the disclaimer:
Taliban Org chart<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Please read. Gives good description of Pashtun areas. Off course misses the ISI and TSP Army connection but we can supply that!
Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Naresh - 06-01-2008
[center]<b><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>For Karachiâs desperate housewives, a pound of flesh for a pouch of ghee</span></b> <!--emo&:flush--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Flush.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='Flush.gif' /><!--endemo-->[/center]
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>KARACHI : <span style='color:red'>Some women outside one utility store were offering their bodies and even their children to the men behind the counter, all for a pouch of ghee.</span></b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Guest - 06-03-2008
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Car bomb outside Danish Embassy in Pakistan kills eight </b>
Pioneer.com
Muhammad Najeeb | Islamabad
Up to eight people, including possibly a foreigner, were killed in a suicide car bombing <b>outside the visa section of the Danish embassy</b> here on Monday. The powerful blast, heard in a radius of five kilometres, also damaged windowpanes of the<b> nearby India House, the Indian envoy's official residence</b>.Â
The attack took place around 1 pm when a car packed with about<b> 30 kg of explosives at the parking stand of the mission exploded with a deafening roar, damaging nearby buildings and setting many cars and trees ablaze</b>.
The explosion was so massive that the car's engine landed some 300 feet away. A three feet deep crater developed on the road outside the Danish mission. About 20 people were injured, a few seriously. Panic gripped the area.
It was the first suicide attack after a new civilian government took office in Islamabad in March.
The blast partially damaged the diplomatic mission's building and an adjacent office of the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) in the posh Islamabad neighbourhood of F6 district. The windowpanes of the nearby India House were shattered.
India's High Commissioner, Satyabrata Pal, was having lunch when the bombing took place. He and the other residents of India House were safe, officials said. The authorities explained that the target of the attack was the Danish embassy and linked it to the Prophet Mohammed cartoons the Danish and Norwegian media published two years ago
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Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Guest - 06-03-2008
<b>Pak leader links terror to madarsas</b>
http://www.telegraphindia.com//1080602/jsp...ory_9351779.jsp
NISHIT DHOLABHAI
New Delhi, June 1: A politician whose party is a partner in Pakistanâs ruling coalition today <b>surprised a conference on terrorism here by declaring that madarsas in his country were âbreeding groundsâ of terror.</b>
Hasham Baber, additional secretary-general of the Awami National Party, said political sermons, not just lectures on Islam, were delivered in such institutions in the federally administered tribal areas, bordering Afghanistan.
<b>âThe breeding grounds should be removed because on Fridays, it isnât Islam that is taught but political sermons. Both Afghanistan and India will benefit,â</b> he told the conference organised by Jama Masjid United Forum. The Speaker of Afghanistanâs senate, Safghadullah Mojaddedi, was also present.
<b>Most reacted cautiously to the comments. </b>The Jama Masjidâs imam, Syed Ahmed Bukhari, made it clear that Baber had only expressed his âown viewsâ about affairs in Pakistan.
<b>Assam chief minister Tarun Gogoi disagreed with Baber</b>, saying madarsas in his state werenât teaching terror.<b>Social activist Teesta Setalvad spoke of the threat from âRight-wing Hindu schools in tribal areasâ and about the kind of âmob terrorismâ seen during the Gujarat riots</b>. <!--emo&:roll--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ROTFL.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ROTFL.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Bodhi - 06-03-2008
From the link posted in 194 by Naresh Ji.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->the financial crunch has made them change their diet.... âBut now <b>all the poultry products and mutton has been cut out</b>.â Sixty percent of a poor familyâs menu consisted of pulses, grains and rice.... â<b>Daal channa, daal mash, gourd, spinach and potatoes are items on our daily menu</b>â ... there has been a 20 rupee per kg increase in beef prices. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Allah the gracious and most merciful is making momin-s abandon halal and become vegetarians??? <!--emo&
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Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Naresh - 06-03-2008
<!--QuoteBegin-Bodhi+Jun 3 2008, 10:56 AM-->QUOTE(Bodhi @ Jun 3 2008, 10:56 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->From the link posted in 194 by Naresh Ji.
<!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->the financial crunch has made them change their diet.... âBut now <b>all the poultry products and mutton has been cut out</b>.â Sixty percent of a poor familyâs menu consisted of pulses, grains and rice.... â<b>Daal channa, daal mash, gourd, spinach and potatoes are items on our daily menu</b>â ... there has been a 20 rupee per kg increase in beef prices. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Allah the gracious and most merciful is making momin-s abandon halal and become vegetarians??? <!--emo&
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<b>Bodhi Ji :</b>
Please wash your Mouth as well as Keyboard & Screen with Soap and Water for your Blasphemous Statement of Criticizing the Economic Miracle in Pakistan by Mush the Tush and Salwar Kameez.
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Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Naresh - 06-03-2008
[center]<b><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>Norway, Sweden close embassies</span></b>[/center]
<b>OSLO : <span style='color:red'>Norway and Sweden temporarily closed their embassies in Islamabad on Monday after the suicide attack outside the Danish embassy killed at least eight people.</span></b> âWeâve closed our embassy,â Norwegian Foreign Ministry spokesman Tor-Henrik Andersen told AFP. The Swedish embassy also shut down, Swedish Foreign Ministry spokesman Kent Oberg was quoted as saying by the AP news agency. Meanwhile, officials from the nearby Netherlands Embassy said their staff were unhurt, while the United States Embassy urged its citizens to use extra caution when travelling through Islamabad. It also told them avoid the blast site. agencies
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Twirp : Terrorist Wahabi Islamic Republic Pakistan - Naresh - 06-03-2008
<b>Dane killed in attack</b>
COPENHAGEN : A Danish citizen of Pakistani origin was killed in a suicide attack on Denmarkâs embassy in Islamabad on Monday, an official at the Danish Foreign Ministry said. The victim was not one of the four Danes stationed at the embassy, he told AFP. The ministry said two Pakistani employees were also killed in the attack which left at least eight dead, with nearly 25 injured.
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