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Congress Undemocratic Ideology - 2 - Guest - 08-06-2006

QUOTE(Mudy @ Aug 6 2006, 01:34 AM)<div class='quotetop'>QUOTENatwar has 'nuclear arms' readyÂ 
Pioneer.com
PTI | New Delhi
Isolated in the Congress in the wake of the Pathak report, former External Affairs Minister K Natwar Singh appears to be mobilising political parties opposed to the Indo-US nuclear deal in a move aimed at embarrassing the party and the coalition its leads.
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I want him to bring out all dirty laundry of 10 Janpath. All illegal money deal and other contracts.
Natwar know everything.
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She will get him KILLED MAN! The anti-Indian newspapers and losers such as Hindu will even support the murder.

Congress Undemocratic Ideology - 2 - Guest - 08-06-2006

No, they will bring his daughter-in-law's murder/sucide case back in media.
In Bharatpur, Natwar still rule in Jat community.

Lets see what Punjab CM Arminder Singh will do. He may also quit Congress and may join BJP, which he always wanted but BJP rejected him. Not sure what was the reason.

Main culprits are Arminder and his wife nephews in volcker issue.

Congress Undemocratic Ideology - 2 - Guest - 08-06-2006

QUOTE(Mudy @ Aug 5 2006, 07:44 PM)No, they will bring his daughter-in-law's murder/sucide case back in media.
In Bharatpur, Natwar still rule in Jat community.

Lets see what Punjab CM Arminder Singh will do. He may also quit Congress and may join BJP, which he always wanted but BJP rejected him. Not sure what was the reason.

Main culprits are Arminder and his wife nephews in volcker issue.
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What will be even more interesting is how congress members react. For congresswalas the dynasty has been the means to loot the public. congresswalas would not give the time of the day to the dynasty had this not been the case. Previously, if someone betrayed or became useless to indira, they would be dumped. For the last 20 years, the punitive action had been missing. That is how VP singh and other jokers had been able to revolt, which would have been unthninkable during indira's time. if the italian can command the same respect in the polls, she can become another indira with no one to oppose her and those daring to revolt decimated. But if she loses, she will become worser than rajiv, with a lot of enemies and friends without loyalty.

Congress Undemocratic Ideology - 2 - Guest - 08-06-2006

Indra was very well trained by her father, she was shrewd politician, but very strong nationalist. She even kicked out her husband who was against her father. But in case of Queen Sonia, she is another Bahadur Shah Zafar without any skills. She is holding purse. Till she is in full control of purse string, dogs will keeps her happy and fools will vote her.

Congress Undemocratic Ideology - 2 - Guest - 08-07-2006

QUOTENatwarâs G-4 is now G-8 
Fly on the wall: By Harish Gupta

Gone are the days when Natwar Singhâs G-4 included Jaswant Singh (BJP), Amar Singh (SP) and Digvijay Singh (JD-U). Now he is going places and claims that G-4 is now G-8, with Yashwant Sinha, P.G. Narayanan (AIADMK), Sharad Pawar (NCP) and others. Recently, 10 AIADMK MPs led by P.G. Narayanan met Natwar Singh to express their solidarity with him. While thanking him, Natwar Singh assured that he would soon be paying a courtesy call to Jayalalithaa in Chennai.

Natwar Singh indicated to the AIADMK MPs that he would reveal all the relevant aspects about the oil for food scam by holding a press conference. He may name some of the beneficiaries, who hold high positions in the Congress. The G-8 is also targeting P. Chidambaram. It was because of this very reason that in the Rajya Sabha Amar Singh raised the issue of the Vedanta book which allegedly contains references linking Chidambaram with Sterlite, the majority shareholder of BALCO.

Congress Undemocratic Ideology - 2 - Guest - 08-07-2006

www.indianexpress.com/story/10060.html
When it comes to Mr Q, the right to know doesnât apply
Arun Jaitley

Congress Undemocratic Ideology - 2 - Guest - 08-07-2006

Last legs The Congress party is in a serious crisis. 
QUOTEWhat is at the core of it is protecting the Gandhi family and its dynastic ambitions, without a care about what happens to larger Congress interests, or indeed governance issues, or to give Manmohan Singh a decent chance of success. Except, this obsession of keeping the dynasty from harmâs way is hurting everybody, the Gandhi family being sought to be protected, the Congress party, the government, and of course the country, which has lost the confidence of the NDA years.
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Obviously, there are individual motives, and there are also party and Gandhi family interests involved. Turning the needle of suspicion away from the party on Natwar Singh would have turned suspicions away from the Gandhi family, because it was heavily whispered that they were major non-contractual beneficiaries in the Iraqi oil-for-food scandal. This selective indictment of Natwar Singh would have anyhow not washed, because the Volcker report had indicted the Congress party after a long investigation. Why make it worse by leaking against Natwar? Here, individual interests precede party interests, somebody couldnât resist the temptation to finger Natwar even if it hurt general party interests.
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Although Sonia Gandhi leads the Congress, she has presided over its collapse in power, which is unusual. You could say there is now a coalition within a coalition, the Congress is no longer that fully composite party but a coalition of interests, and since the binding forces are weakening, it wonât survive as a national party long

Congress Undemocratic Ideology - 2 - Guest - 08-08-2006

QUOTEWhy is Congress afraid to act? 
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Akhilesh Suman | New Delhi
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Even as the former foreign minister, who has positioned himself as a symbol of anti-Americanism, flirts with the leaders of both the Left and Right camps as well as Sonia-baiters George Fernandes and Amar Singh, the Congress is still waiting for the appropriate time to act.

"Appropriate action will be taken at an appropriate time," Parliamentary Affairs Minister Priyaranjan Dasmunshi told reporters. "What action will be taken against Natwar Singh will depend upon the disposal of the privilege notice in both Houses of Parliament, and till the Congress Party studies the Pathak Committee report in detail," he added.

At the same time, Dasmunshi tried to sound conciliatory, "Natwar Singh has served the party for long time and the whole thing is unfortunate. He has figured in the report not for any financial benefit but just for the letters he had written to some Iraqi authorities."

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Sources said that the Congress managers were making eleventh hour efforts to persuade Natwar Singh to keep Sonia Gandhi out of his line of fire. However, so far the Jat leader has refused all such overtures.

On Sunday, Dasmunshi called up Natwar on the telephone five times but gave up as Natwar did not come on the line.

Meanwhile on Monday, sources close to Natwar Singh said that BJP leader Yashwant Sinha and JD(U) leader Digvijay Singh met him at his residence after the House was adjourned for the day. Observers feel that he was advised by the duo not to speak his version before the media but to wait to make a statement in the House itself.

Sources in the Congress told The Pioneer that senior Congress leader Oscar Fernandes has also been asked to mollify Natwar Singh. The only concession which Natwar has made so far is to say that his privilege motion is not against Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, but against the institution of the PMO.

However, sources in Parliamentary Affairs Ministry said that the language of Natwar's privilege notice indicts the Prime Minister himself for the alleged leakage of the Pathak Committee Report.

There is a feeling in the Congress that the privilege notice against the Prime Minister will not be accepted by the Speaker of Lok Sabha and Chairman of Rajya Sabha, but what can happen at the most, is that the Prime Minister may have to issue a statement of regret in both the Houses on the leakage of the report. During the NDA regime, former Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee had done the same on a privilege notice by senior Congress leader Dasmunshi himself.

As far as investigations of the leakage was concerned, Congress feels that the way the NDA and the Samajwadi Party have reacted on the issue, is part of a strategy to create trouble for the UPA.

To a question if the Government proposes any action against the media for the leak, Dasmunshi said, "Under the rule, a journalist is bound to disclose his sources as far as privilege of Parliament is concerned. But we don't want to go to the extent of grilling a journalist in this matter."

While the Congress is trying hard to soften Natwar Singh, it is ready to debate the Pathak Committee report in both the Houses where Natwar will also get a chance to speak. However, the party is not willing to give Natwar Singh a chance to make a statement on the issue outside the purview of the debate.

COngress is scared. Natwar will disclose everything. Let see how low Congress will go to appease Natwar.
Protecting Queen is very important for COngress managers's roti, khoti.

Congress Undemocratic Ideology - 2 - Guest - 08-08-2006

Did not know that the Congress party chief was a genius

A word for Sonia: Left blocking forward leap. Govt relies on them. Unless this dam breaks, we are stuckâ

There are those who put it this way, that she is able to think more clear-headedly because her European mind is able to think linear rather than in the circular, spaghetti-like way in which Indians think.(Both laugh)

Congress Undemocratic Ideology - 2 - Guest - 08-10-2006

wah-wah wah-wah !!

I had never heard of this before -> european mind thinks linearly while indian mind thinks circularly.

Mudy what was that saying in hindi that started with "Angrez chale gaye ... " ??

Congress Undemocratic Ideology - 2 - Guest - 08-10-2006

Angrez chale gaye bacche chhod gaye

'Angrez chale gaye, angrezi chhod gaye'

Angrez chale gaye, aulad chod gaye!"

All fits above. And fits Shekhar kutta and AS. Any occasion, Mr. Kutta never miss any opportunity to bring Gujarat but skips Godhra, even after getting open lashes in News week, two weeks back.
Queen experience is waiting tables, what else one can expect, only linear walk and waiting for tip.

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Congress Undemocratic Ideology - 2 - Guest - 08-11-2006

QUOTESonia's truck with Gujarat 
Pioneer.com
RK Misra | Surat
In a low key visit, UPA chairperson Sonia Gandhi bravely bumped over pot-holed roads to get a first hand impression of the miseries of the marooned in Surat.

Only a heavy-duty Army truck could access the flood washed roads of the diamond city so with the canvas flap rolled up for a better view, Sonia Gandhi parked herself on the wooden bench and prepared to rough it out.Â Â

Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee, political advisor Ahmed Patel and Union Minister Shankersinh Vaghela accompanied her.

But the aam aadmi was missing. Engrossed in battling for daily necessities like drinking water, food and milk, they had no time to stand and stare.

"People do not expect Gandhi to travel in a truck," a Congress leader said seeking to explain the absence of crowds as he made frantic phone calls to gather party workers. 

No PM in sight, to busy pushing files.

Congress Undemocratic Ideology - 2 - Guest - 08-11-2006

From today's Asian Age

Congress plays politics of vendetta 8/10/2006 10:23:30 PM
- By Arun Nehru
The Justice R.S. Pathak Authority into the Iraq food-for-oil issue has acted in record time to clear the Congress Party and Sonia Gandhi, but has indicted Natwar Singh. And now we will have three government agencies that will use every method possible to fulfil the political objective and Natwar Singh along with friends and business associates will be targeted and harassed. But they will not be alone, as political support for Natwar Singh and his family is very much there. Of course, the "loyal" media will malign him with speculative stories. I think it will be wise for all concerned to use the high court and the Supreme Court for justice as the politics of vendetta will continue as things become difficult. It is most unfortunate that the Justice Pathak report should have got leaked almost immediately after it was ready and even before the Prime Minister could see it. It seems that someone was rather desperate to get the view across that the Congress was clean and that Natwar Singh was guilty. The attempt was to keep away the Opposition forces from supporting the former foreign minister and keep him isolated. But, clearly, this was poor political management as it disregarded the current political situation where the Third Front is more than a reality.

The Congress and Sonia Gandhi are under pressure as elections approach in Uttar Pradesh, Uttaranchal and Punjab; and there is trouble in all three states. Things are further complicated by the personal agenda Sonia Gandhi has against Mulayam Singh, Amar Singh and the Bachchans. And now Natwar Singh will be added to this list for "special treatment." The politics of vendetta is in full swing and instead of using political skills â which do not exist â government agencies are being used to settle political scores. The CBI, income tax department, Enforcement Directorate are all being used for this purpose. Look at the partisan manner in which the system is working, as "allies" (Lalu Yadav and Mayawati) are being protected. In many cases, the Supreme Court has to intervene to ensure that the cases continue; and on the other hand, look at the treatment meted out to the Samajwadi Party where all its leaders and friends are being subjected to harassment. The same applies to J. Jayalalithaa of the AIADMK â where the CBI has filed a case â and to the TDP leaders. It is clear that this will lead to retribution sooner than later, as political leaders are rarely frightened by these methods.

There are few innocents in politics and Sonia Gandhi is no exception. Justice R.S. Pathak makes no mention of the letter written to Saddam Hussein by Sonia Gandhi, and this only complicates the issue and creates confusion in public mind. Facts are often forgotten and public opinion is formed by impressions, and when confusion exists, then everyone concerned has something to lose. The Volcker issue is more about political propriety, and clearly, Natwar Singh, by writing the three letters has committed an "indiscretion." And if everyone knew about these letters, then he should have resigned on the first day and all this would not have been necessary. The issue is now complicated and caught in a political swirl and it would be difficult to separate fact from fiction. Leaks from ED to select media have little meaning unless backed by facts, and if facts are available then there would be no leaks.

We are moving into a very unfortunate situation and I think it is still not too late to take remedial action. Political battles must be fought in the political arena, and leaders who indulge in vendettas, are by nature insecure and threaten others with their own insecurity. And sadly, over the years, many have suffered as the hunters always become the hunted.

The challenge to the Congress will come from the Opposition, but also from within, unless the leader can lead and deliver electoral gains under adverse circumstances. Sonia Gandhi and Rahul will both have an opportunity to show their political skills in Uttar Pradesh. If they succeed, there will be little challenge to their political future. Numbers determine alliances and governance, and todayâs allies can be tomorrowâs enemies if political longevity is in danger. Coalition politics is never easy, but to indulge in reckless vendettas and petty acts makes survival very difficult. Leaders have to pay the price, while those who recommend harsh and punitive measures, melt away and find "new" leaders to exploit and further their political careers.

Congress Undemocratic Ideology - 2 - Guest - 08-11-2006

<img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/argue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='argue.gif' /> Natwar not speaking the truth: Cong
Press Trust of India
New Delhi, August 11, 2006
Congress on Friday night accused suspended leader Natwar Singh of "not speaking the truth" on the expansion of the delegation during his controversial visit to Iraq to include his son Jagat and Andaleeb Sehgal.

"Natwar is completely wrong and not speaking the truth" on the issue," party spokesman Abhishek Singhvi said adding that inclusion of Jagat and Andaleeb was "unauthorised" and never discussed with the Congress President Sonia Gandhi.

Besides, he said when Natwar wrote the three letters, which are at the heart of the controversy, it was never discussed with Gandhi and "never authorised by the Congress or the Congress President."

Singhvi said the former External Affairs Minister should decide what stand to take and should stop his "flip-flop-flip".

Addressing a press conference, Natwar Singh said his visit to Iraq in January 2001 was purely a "political" and there was no discussion on contracts, vouchers, bank accounts and receipts.

Besides, he said "Jagat and Andaleeb were never a part of the delegation."

Congress Undemocratic Ideology - 2 - acharya - 08-13-2006

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Congress Undemocratic Ideology - 2 - Guest - 08-13-2006

We ought to find out more about "Center for the Study of the Developing Societies". The timing of the release of this "Scientific Poll", Manmohan's problems, Sonia's recent activities, etc seem to be very very convenient and indicative of something else (other than the poll suggests). We all know about Naxal Ram and CNN-IBN <!--emo& Tongue

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Congress Undemocratic Ideology - 2 - Guest - 08-13-2006

QUOTE"Center for the Study of the Developing Societies". 
Commie organizartion - website is www.sarai.net
Book-reading @ Sarai
The Simoqin Prophecies <!--emo& Big Grin

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Samit BasuQUOTESarai, Center for the Study of the Developing Societies

Sarai (www.sarai.net) is an interdisciplinary program of research and creative experimentationwith old and new media in urban spaces. It was launched in February 2001 at theCenter for the Study of Developing Societies, Delhi. This essay sketches the history of theSarai initiative, outlines its primary concerns with urban cultures and city spaces, new andold forms of media practice, and research into the politics of information and communication.The text is also an account of the different kinds of energiesâranging from theory,research, media practices, public cultural intervention, publication, and online as well asoffline discursive spacesâthat animate the space of Sarai.

Key Words: urban â¢ media â¢ collaboration â¢ commons â¢ creativity â¢ network


Something very fishy, one stroke they provide software consultancy, other book reading, urban life.......

It is good if they are promoting Sonia, real India is saying something different. Vote will decide. Before 2004 election NDA was sure bet. ABV approval rating was in 70s.

Other than xitian or Modi hater, none are happy with Congress.

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Congress Undemocratic Ideology - 2 - Guest - 08-14-2006

Oil-For -Food Scam
Sonia gave me a letter of introduction to Saddam Hussain: Natwar
Press Trust of India
Posted online: Monday, August 14, 2006 at 1356 hours IST
Updated: Monday, August 14, 2006 at 1656 hours IST
New Delhi, August 14: Terming the Justice Pathak Inquiry Authority report as a 'flawed document', former External Affairs Minister Natwar Singh questioned the exoneration of Congress party when the Volcker findings had named both him and the party as non-contractual beneficiaries in the Iraqi oil-for-food programme.

Making a personal explanation in the Rajya Sabha, Singh said, "clearly Justice Pathak's conclusions dealing with the contract in which I was mentioned as non-contractual beneficiary and the contract in which the Congress party was mentioned as non-contractual beneficiary are at best questionable."

He said the Authority has not explained why he (Natwar) would ask for one contract in his name and another in the name of the Congress party.

"In neither case has he (Pathak) produced any evidence of my linkage except through surmises and assumptions. I will like to state with all my emphasis at my command that nowhere have I signed any contract, received any voucher, signed any receipt or made any transaction with any party," the suspended Congress leader said.
Although the report of the authority was a âflawed documentâ, it was categorical about what mattered most to him, he said.

"The authority has in clear terms said I and my son derived no financial gains from any source. We stand fully vindicated," he said.

The House heard with rapt attention as Natwar gave his personal explanation even though at one point of time Minister of State for Parliamentary Affairs Suresh Pachouri raised a point of order that anything debatable in the personal explanation should not be allowed.

Natwar Singh, who has been indicted by the authority for misuse of position, said Justice Pathak did not examine the circumstances under which Volcker Committee included his name as a non-contractual beneficiary.

Nor did the authority verify the documents on which such a conclusion was based and gave no explanation how the name of many companies, mostly from the US, were removed by Volcker, he said.

Claiming he had a good record and reasonably successful diplomatic career, Natwar said, "I dare say that the record of my public life has been without blemish. I have no reason, therefore, to indulge in acts of impropriety of this nature for petty financial gains."

Giving details of his visit to Iraq, he said he headed a political delegation to Baghdad in January 2001. Congress president Sonia Gandhi âgave me a letter of introduction to President Saddam Hussain which I delivered to Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz on arrival'.

During his entire stay, Natwar said he had no discussions or talks with any Iraqi authority regarding the oil-for-food programme, oil contract, vouchers and bank accounts.

Natwar said the delegation contained three more members apart from him--Shiv Shanker, A R Antulay and Aneil Mathrani. 

His son Jagat had accompanied him and the fare was paid by âmeâ, he said adding âthere is no document approved by me to add any names to the delegation. I had no authority to do so. I have made this clear on several occasions that no names were addedâ.

Natwar said he had briefed the Congress president about his discussions in Baghdad. "Nothing at all was concealed from her or held back," he said.

Natwar said the Volcker report had produced no evidence as to how his name or the Congress were added. 

"In my affidavit (to the Authority), I have given details and Volcker's bias against those who disapproved of us action in West Asia and elsewhere. My affidavit and statement to the Pathak Authority have been completely ignored by it," he said.

The Authority report has not attached his affidavit. "Why then we were asked to submit affidavit and asked to make statements to the authority. It has not attached a copy of the statement that I made to the authority exposing flaws and loopholes in the Volcker report," Natwar said.
indianexpress.com

Congress Undemocratic Ideology - 2 - Guest - 08-14-2006

Mudy, Here is the real link to the home page of the Center for the Study of Developing Societies.

Congress Undemocratic Ideology - 2 - Guest - 08-14-2006

QUOTECenter for the Study of Developing Societies. 
It is ruling party funded socialism project.