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The Real Indian IQ - Bharatvarsh2 - 08-20-2010 Nothing new there, standard leftist delusions all repeated by Gould or Diamond before him. Quote:Incomplete men Quote:The same Jared Diamond then wrote a book called Guns, Germs etc. It was one hell of a politicallly correct book about equality of humans in face of environmental differences. It was one piece of leftist sophistry complete with the aspersions at Brahminism and fullsome praise for Abrahamism in developing ââ¬Åscientific temperââ¬Â. While Diamond laughed away to the bank fooling the public with his ââ¬Åequal-equalââ¬Â nonsense that is so common amongst leftist American academics the public was fooled. Luckily for us this bluff was exposed by a recent paper by Wang ET et al that showed that in the last 40-10,000 years, i.e. the time frame in which the humans emigrated out of Africa, we have undergone natural selection in atleast 1800 genes. These genes include numerous genes relating to immune response, reproduction and neural function. The implication of this are explosive. Thus we are likely to expect hardwired differences in disease resistance, intelligence/behavior and reproductive behavior/strategies in different populations of the world probably as local adaptations to their different environments. The Real Indian IQ - Guest - 08-23-2010 That would be just a subset of Liberals. The Real Indian IQ - G.Subramaniam - 09-25-2010 2009 US, National Merit Semifinalists, total 16000 IQ cut off = 139. roughly same as for MD seat Virginia - Total = 395 Muslims = 5 Hindus = 21 ( 5% ) Indiana = 257 Muslim = 1 Hindu = 11 ( 4% ) Florida = 800 Muslim = 10 Hindu = 34 ( 4% ) Texas = 1303 Muslim = 20 Hindu = 89 ( 7% ) CA = 2100 Muslim = 14 Hindu = 136 ( 7% ) Now this Hindu cohort was born in 1993, when Hindus were 0.2%, They are showing over-representation of 20X The Real Indian IQ - G.Subramaniam - 09-30-2010 In Canada, the Indian diaspora, is more like the UK Indian diaspora, lots of sikhs, and not high IQ selected Whereas the Chinese Canadian diaspora is more high IQ selected, lots of Hong Kong millionaires fleeing communist takeover. http://crcw.princeton.edu/migration/files/library/Group%20Differences%20in%20Educational%20Attainment%20Among%20the%20Children%20of%20Immigrants%20(2).pdf Second generaration Chinese with college = 70 % Second gen Indian with college = 65% white = 35% The Real Indian IQ - kchandra - 10-03-2010 [quote name='Bharatvarsh2' date='20 August 2010 - 08:01 AM' timestamp='1282271005' post='107975'] Nothing new there, standard leftist delusions all repeated by Gould or Diamond before him. [/quote] Agree. There is no doubt that , all populations that emigrated out of Africa have definitely evolved differently, in response to the different environments they faced. Evolution of these populations has happened on several attributes. Olfactory, lingual, audio-visual and spatial and all kinds of other attributes. It is commonly believed ( with good reason ) that Australian aborigines have excellent spatial ability to help them navigate the vast desert of Australia. Jews have better language/number skills than White europeans, White europeans in turn have better 3D Spatial perception and cognition than Jews on an average. Blacks from Africa, have good sprinting capabilities, but not much of long distance endurance running though. The list goes on. Of course, it is hard to quantify and say definitively that one race is better than another in one attribute, only statistical averages that vary. I personally think there is also the part that random chance and initial conditions play in gene evolution. One has to look at the populations of Papua New Guinea. There hundreds of tribes evolved seperately from each other, in isolation each having some traits that are dominant. Apparently, cannibalism and homosexuality are traits that have evolved in some of the tribes and not in some other tribes. - Krishna The Real Indian IQ - shamu - 10-04-2010 [quote name='Krishna' date='03 October 2010 - 06:48 PM' timestamp='1286111415' post='108648']Jews have better language/number skills than White europeans, White europeans in turn have better 3D Spatial perception and cognition than Jews on an average.[/quote] Just curious. What is the difference between Jews and White Europeans? Both of them look same to me. If you show me identically dressed European Jew and European White, I can't distinguish between them. I am not sure if you can. The Real Indian IQ - G.Subramaniam - 10-04-2010 [quote name='shamu' date='04 October 2010 - 10:44 AM' timestamp='1286168778' post='108667'] Just curious. What is the difference between Jews and White Europeans? Both of them look same to me. If you show me identically dressed European Jew and European White, I can't distinguish between them. I am not sure if you can. [/quote] To a fair extent, I can visually pick out jews from whites, just as we can pick out brahmins vs non-brahmins visually in South India Genetically, Ashkenazi jews are a 50% blend of Arabs with 50% of Greeks-Italians The Real Indian IQ - HareKrishna - 10-06-2010 [quote name='Krishna' date='03 October 2010 - 06:48 PM' timestamp='1286111415' post='108648'] that Australian aborigines have excellent spatial ability to help them navigate the vast desert of Australia. Jews have better language/number skills than White europeans, White europeans in turn have better 3D Spatial perception and cognition than Jews on an average. Blacks from Africa, have good sprinting capabilities, but not much of long distance endurance running though. - Krishna [/quote] east asians have the best spatial perception ,tropical asians and native australian have the best memorization capacity. then why ethiopians and kenyans ,living in mountains,finish the maraton on the first places? bulky bantu africans are good at sprint,skinny ethiopians are not that good.They are not good at swimming because of heavy bone structure. [quote name='shamu' date='04 October 2010 - 10:44 AM' timestamp='1286168778' post='108667'] Just curious. What is the difference between Jews and White Europeans? Both of them look same to me. If you show me identically dressed European Jew and European White, I can't distinguish between them. I am not sure if you can. [/quote] I easily distinguish between jews and europeans.However are many rabbis that look very proto-slavic 'ukrainian' looking. The Real Indian IQ - G.Subramaniam - 10-07-2010 [quote name='HareKrishna' date='06 October 2010 - 08:41 PM' timestamp='1286377415' post='108708'] east asians have the best spatial perception ,tropical asians and native australian have the best memorization capacity. then why ethiopians and kenyans ,living in mountains,finish the maraton on the first places? bulky bantu africans are good at sprint,skinny ethiopians are not that good.They are not good at swimming because of heavy bone structure. I easily distinguish between jews and europeans.However are many rabbis that look very proto-slavic 'ukrainian' looking. [/quote] Native australians dont have good memory, if so, they would have a high IQ What they have is increased vision at the expense of IQ Many rabbis look ukrainian, since the slavs under the urgings of their bishops, preferentially raped women of rabbinical families The Levite caste of jews has a high proportion of R1A - Y DNA, due to slavic rape The Real Indian IQ - HareKrishna - 10-07-2010 [quote name='G.Subramaniam' date='07 October 2010 - 06:19 AM' timestamp='1286412072' post='108721'] Many rabbis look ukrainian, since the slavs under the urgings of their bishops, preferentially raped women of rabbinical families The Levite caste of jews has a high proportion of R1A - Y DNA, due to slavic rape [/quote] any evidence to support this? i supposed that khazars who converted to judaism en mass 1000years ago give this R1a and slavic look. The Real Indian IQ - G.Subramaniam - 10-08-2010 [quote name='HareKrishna' date='07 October 2010 - 10:48 PM' timestamp='1286471416' post='108732'] any evidence to support this? i supposed that khazars who converted to judaism en mass 1000years ago give this R1a and slavic look. [/quote] The khazars were turkic, not slavs, there is virtually no trace of turkic dna in modern ashkenazi jews Most Ashkenazi jew Y-Paternaal DNA is J1 Except the Levites are 50% R1A ( Slavic - Brahmin ) The Real Indian IQ - HareKrishna - 10-08-2010 [quote name='G.Subramaniam' date='08 October 2010 - 06:23 AM' timestamp='1286498739' post='108740'] The khazars were turkic, not slavs, there is virtually no trace of turkic dna in modern ashkenazi jews Most Ashkenazi jew Y-Paternaal DNA is J1 Except the Levites are 50% R1A ( Slavic - Brahmin ) [/quote] khazars were turks yes,but majority of their subjects were caucasian of slavic look. but there is no evidence that slavs raped jew womwen . again,were is the evidence.? The Real Indian IQ - HareKrishna - 10-09-2010 hey guys,i have a nice iq test this will truly show your personal iq,no guessing,no hidding. after you get your result make a print screen whit your result and put it here http://onemansblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/iqtest.swf The Real Indian IQ - shamu - 10-10-2010 Doesn't allow copying. The result for me was 132. What was yours? The Real Indian IQ - HareKrishna - 10-10-2010 your result cant be trusted if you didn't put a print screen whit your result as requested <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> The Real Indian IQ - shamu - 10-11-2010 If trust is the issue, you can never trust the results people claim. People can always rig that using graphic editing tools. One thing I felt about this IQ test is that that test would be easy for people who take different aptitude tests, and for people who has engineering back ground. The test would be difficult for people from general arts or medicine background. So, I doubt if that test really reflects the real IQ of people. BTW, what was your score? The Real Indian IQ - HareKrishna - 10-11-2010 im from an architecture and design background but the test is for general iq so your job dont matter much. the results was as follow: -my result 112 -my brother 119 -my brothers wife 132 -my christian friend 92 -my mother 96 -my atheist friend 116 others refused to do the test. The Real Indian IQ - kchandra - 10-11-2010 Regarding picking Jews from White Europeans, i meant to distinguish between those of European Jewish Ancestry and those of European non Jewish, white/Christian ancestry. Yes, i have seen jews of North European ancestry look a little less fair skinned than caucasians and sometimes urly haired. But again, many southern europeans would fit the bill of this looks as well. Regarding, G. Sub response that he can pick Jews from white europeans, i am not sure i can do that easily in USA atleast, with all this mix of races from around the world. If i see a little less white with a curly look and sharp nose, he might be a north african or italian or Jordanian or even an Iranian. However, if i were to go Northern Europe and go to a predominantly white city where Jews also lived ( and no other immigrants lived ) i guess i would be able to pick them out. -Krishna The Real Indian IQ - kchandra - 10-11-2010 I got IQ scores anything from 125 to 141 in the many free tests i took in the last few years. Not sure what to make out of this wide variation! The Real Indian IQ - kchandra - 10-11-2010 Just to add another angle to this discussion, i had tested my genes in the Genographic project of National Geographic and got my haplogroup as R2. And i joined an online forum for all R2s, r2dna.org. Guess what , where the majority of R2s come from ( after India and Pakistan ) ? It is mostly Jewish and Greek/Turkish folks. These jews are Askhenazi ( i think ) scattered in the USA, but mostly of Central European/Russian/Ukrainian origin. And the other R2s are from Turkey and eastern Greece. Needless to say, in this r2dna forum, some of these of Turkish/Greek origin folks are trying deperately to prove that their R2 is very different from the Indian R2!. Obviously they do not want to have to do anything with Indians, but the haplogroup clearly shows they are R2. SO they come up with all kinds of fancy migration routes to prove that they do not have Indian blood. As a FYI for folks here, R2 haplogroup along with R1 originated in Central Asia, and R1 is the mother haplogroup of R1a and R1b, the modern European genes. r2 is considered a cousin of these and the folks mostly are found in Central Asia, Iran, and India/Pakistan. I am curious what is with the rape of Jews by Slavs? Is it true? - Krishna ( I do understand this forum is for IQ, but in any discussion on IQ, the haplogroups and genes invariably turn up as an another factor !) |