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Islamism - 7 - Bharatvarsh - 11-13-2009 And as for Muslims not sending their girls to "secular" schools, they will decide where to send their kids. Maybe instead of blaming them we Hindu fools should be looking at our own problems, i went to some shitty "secular" private school & all I learnt was anti Hindu bs in the curriculum. Government run brainwashing centres (oops I mean "schools") are even worse. A committed Hindu only has 3 options, homeschool your kids, send them to a private Hindu school, send them to a "secular" school but make sure that you debrainwash them of the propaganda they learnt in school everyday. I am sure all those poor Muslim girls are missing out on all the fun like "sex education" where soon they will be teaching them how to roll a rubber on a banana/cucumber as practice for the future & other great stuff. There is a tendency among so called Hindutva activists to reflexively oppose things because Muslims or Xtians practice it, just because Xtians oppose abortion does not mean that Hindus shamelessly need to keep quiet about it or condone it. If a Muslim tells you that playing russian roulette with a loaded gun is a bad idea then it doesn't mean you have to go do the exact opposite & claim its a good idea. Islamism - 7 - Guest - 11-13-2009 <!--QuoteBegin-Bharatvarsh+Nov 13 2009, 03:33 AM-->QUOTE(Bharatvarsh @ Nov 13 2009, 03:33 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->There is a tendency among so called Hindutva activists to reflexively oppose things because Muslims or Xtians practice it, just because Xtians oppose abortion does not mean that Hindus shamelessly need to keep quiet about it or condone it. If a Muslim tells you that playing russian roulette with a loaded gun is a bad idea then it doesn't mean you have to go do the exact opposite & claim its a good idea. [right][snapback]102509[/snapback][/right] <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> You are absolutely correct, BV-garu. The writer of the article decries opposition to the spread of TV, Cinema and reservation simply because those doing the opposing are Muslims. On all these issues, the Muslims are right! Supporting the artifacts of modernity and discrimination against Islam is not a good thing for us. The same thing goes for having multiple children. Many of these idiot activists seem unnecessarily concerned about Muslims having "too many" children. In fact, the BJP in Karnataka is on the point of introducing legislation to remove access to subsidies for all those who have more than 2 children. Why? Why suppress somebody else's natural urge to have children, just because we have managed to kill it off in our own community? I've never understood this stupidity. Islamism - 7 - Bharatvarsh - 11-14-2009 <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->You are absolutely correct, BV-garu. The writer of the article decries opposition to the spread of TV, Cinema and reservation simply because those doing the opposing are Muslims. On all these issues, the Muslims are right! Supporting the artifacts of modernity and discrimination against Islam is not a good thing for us. The same thing goes for having multiple children. Many of these idiot activists seem unnecessarily concerned about Muslims having "too many" children. In fact, the BJP in Karnataka is on the point of introducing legislation to remove access to subsidies for all those who have more than 2 children. Why? Why suppress somebody else's natural urge to have children, just because we have managed to kill it off in our own community? I've never understood this stupidity. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> I pretty much agree with everything except for the subsidy part which I think is bad. I don't think anyone should be forced to subsidize other peoples choices good or bad, of course that also applies to social security which subsidizes wealth from the younger generation to older people and many other subsidies which "liberals" love. Whenever gov't subsidizes something it also starts meddling in it, marriage is a good example. If you do not want to get raped by anti male laws like 498 in India then get an iron clad prenup & never get any marriage license from some gov't employed gasbag unless you need to immigrate, marriage has nothing to do with gov't. You know a good example of Indian gov't meddling in things that don't concern them is marriage age which is set at 18 for women & 21 for men, in many US states you can marry at 16 with parental consent but apparently the Indian gov't knows it all better & can decide when we can marry better than we ourselves can. As for the overpopulation hysteria, let the fools believe what they want, if you can financially support the kids marry young & have as many as you want & screw the meddling retards who believe in good gov't bullshit like the sheep they are, many of them will be evolutionary dead ends with their 1 kid or no kids. Islamism - 7 - Bodhi - 11-17-2009 Food Summit: Gaddafi asks women to convert to Islam Rome, 16 Nov. (AKI) - Libya's controversial leader Muammar Gaddafi has created headlines in Italy after inviting 200 women to a party and inviting them to convert to Islam. Gaddafi who is in Rome for the United Nations-sponsored global food summit, held the party at the house of the Libyan ambassador, Hafed Gaddur, on Sunday. "Convert to Islam. Jesus was sent to the Jews, not for you. Mohammed, on the other hand, was sent for all human beings," he reportedly said. "Whoever goes in a different direction than Mohammed is wrong. God's religion is Islam and whomever follows a different one, in the end, will lose," said Gaddafi quoted by Italian daily La Stampa. After arriving an hour late, Gaddafi began distributing gifts to the women, who were reportedly all Italian. They were also each given a copy of the Islamic holy book the Koran as well as the Libyan leader's Green Book, which outlines the Libyan leader's view on political philosophy and democracy. He then sat next to Libya's ambassador to Italy Hafed Gaddur and an interpreter with two of his renowned female guards, known as 'Amazon Guards'. Gaddafi then began a speech in which he invited the women to convert to Islam, emphasising his support for equal rights but not equal duties. According to the Libyan leader, women must do only "what their physical condition allows them" and spoke about the role that women played during World War II. Gaddafi criticised the West, saying that women there "have often been used as pieces of furniture, changed whenever it pleases men. And this is an injustice." Gaddafi also invited the women attending the party to travel to the Islamic holy city of Mecca in Saudi Arabia. The Italian media said that the women came from an agency that provides "hostesses from good families" between the age of 18 to 35. They were reportedly paid 50 euros. Reports said the women were not given anything to eat or drink before, during or after Gaddafi's speech. The women - who were very well dressed were told that short skirts and cleavage were forbidden - met at a hotel in the centre of Rome and were then escorted to the Libyan ambassador's home. Gaddafi is in Rome for the world food summit organised by the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization that opened on Monday. Islamism - 7 - G.Subramaniam - 11-21-2009 http://abcnews.go.com/International/russia...=9136444&page=1 Russian Priest Gunned Down in Church Orthodox Priest Known For Missionary Work Shot in Moscow By ALEXANDER MARQUARDT MOSCOW, Nov. 20, 2009 A Russian Orthodox priest known for his missionary work among Muslims was gunned down in his Moscow church, Russian officials said Friday. People attend a memorial service for Russian Orthodox priest Rev. Daniil Sysoyev in St. Thomas Church in south Moscow, where the priest was shot and killed. People attend a memorial service for the Rev. Daniil Sysoyev, a Russian Orthodox priest, in St. Thomas Church in south Moscow, where Sysoyev was shot and killed. (Misha Japaridze/AP Photo) Thirty-four-year-old Daniil Sysoyev was shot at least four times at in the head and chest in the Church of St. Thomas by a masked gunman Thursday night, according to the Prosecutor General's Investigative Committee. The assailant also wounded the church's choirmaster, Vladimir Strelbitsky. Sysoyev died on the way to the hospital. Strelbitsky is in critical condition. "The main theory is that religious motives are behind the crime," a prosecutor's office spokesman told reporters. Sysoyev routinely denounced Islam and actively reached out to Muslims and various religious sects to convert them. In a recent interview with a Russian newspaper, Sysoyev boasted that he had baptized 80 Muslims. But with his ambitious missionary work came death threats. "They've threatened to cut my head off 14 times," Sysoyev told Komsomolskaya Pravda in the interview. "The FSB [Federal Security Service] got in touch with me a year ago to say they had uncovered a murder plot against me." He told a television interviewer in February 2008 that he considered it a sin not to preach to Muslims, according to the Interfax news agency. Sysoyev was originally from the Russian Republic of Tatarstan, where a large majority of the population is Muslim. He published books titled "An Orthodox Response to Islam" and "Marrying a Muslim," which criticized the faith and drew fierce responses from Muslim organizations. 'No Reason to Kill' Russia's Council of Muftis strongly denounced the murder Friday, saying differences should be worked out in a civilized way. "We talk to people, we meet them. They may not always agree with us, but that is no reason to kill. Life was given to us by the Almighty!" council official Damir Gizatullin told Interfax. Islamism - 7 - Guest - 11-21-2009 <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Former Indian Law Minister asks if Allah is a brothel keeper</b> (72 Virgins for Jihadis) SIFY NEWS | 21st November 2009 Posted on Sat Nov 21 2009 08:49:06 GMT-0800 (Pacific Standard Time) by cold start <b>New Delhi: Former union law minister Ram Jethmalani on Saturday kicked up a row at an international conference on terrorism, asking if Islam's jehadi doctrine does not virtually render 'god a brothel keeper', prompting a Saudi Arabian envoy to walk out of the conference.</b> <!--emo&:cool--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/specool.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='specool.gif' /><!--endemo--> <b>Addressing the seminar, Jethmalani wondered if the jehadi doctrine, propagating the belief allegedly held by Islam's Wahab sect that Muslims attaining martyrdom while fighting non-Muslims "get a place in heaven and the company of the opposite sex there", does not amount to saying that "god is a brothel keeper".</b> <b>The self-confessed maverick legal hawk also went on to equate god as someone "suffering with Alzheimer's disease", while advising the Indian government and the international community against trusting god in fighting terrorism.</b> <b>"He will not help as he is suffering with Alzheimer's disease," said Jethmalani, while advising the government to junk its obsession with "an irrelevant non-aligned movement" and "join the forces of good to fight forces of evil".</b> Jethmalani made "the non-mincing" remarks at an international conference of jurists on terrorism, inaugurated by President Pratibha Patil and attended among others by Singapore Chief Justice Chan Sek Keong and Justice Awn S Al-Khasawneh of the International Court of Justice and envoys of several countries. Jethmalani's remarks caused Saudi Arabia's Ambassador to India Faisal-al-Trad to walk out, while an embarrassed union Law Minister M. Veerappa Moily swiftly sought to distance himself and the government from the controversial remarks. Justice Khasawneh contradicted Jethmalani on some facts referred to by him on the jehadi doctrine. Jethmalani made the remark while dwelling upon the need to fight terrorism also at its ideological level. Malaysia Muslim preacher charged in factional feud "I am a student of all religions, including Islam, and I have read the Koran several times. I find that the Prophet is a man of peace," said Jethmalani, adding that it nowhere preaches hate and violence. "But the decline of Islam started in the 17th century when a person named Wahab propagated hate and violence against all non-Muslims by mis-interpreting one shora (verse) of the Koran," said Jethmalani. <b>"I have read that shora thousands of times, but I have not found anything wrong in it. But, according to Wahab, all other people, including Christians, Jews and Hindus, and even Shias, have forfeited their rights to live,"</b> said Jethmalani. Following Jethmalani's speech, Saudi Arabia's Ambassador Faisal-al-Trad was seen walking out of the conference, apparently taking offence at the remarks. Organiser of the event Adesh Aggarwala said the ambassador had walked out but returned after Moily's statement that the views expressed by Jethmalani were not that of the government. Moily, in his address, said that terrorism cannot be attributed to any particular religion. It was unfortunate that the entire Islam as a religion was being blamed for terrorism, Jethmalani said, adding that "there are also Hindu terrorists and Buddhist terrorists". <b>Terming the Non-Aligned Movement and Panchsheel as evil, Jethmalani said "India should align with forces of good to combat the forces of evil. India and its foreign ministers must learn to reassess the doctrines of past".</b> He said India's foreign policy establishment should be courageous to shun any relationship with the country's 'enemies'. Referring to Jethmalani's comments, Justice Awn S Al-Khasawneh, a judge of the International Court of Justice, asked him not "to make sweeping statements". He also said that the Wahab movement had started in the 18th century and not in 17th century as Jethmalani had remarked.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Islamism - 7 - G.Subramaniam - 12-16-2009 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiarabia/6813312/Saudi-Arabia-to-flog-75-year-old-for-breaching-sex-segregation-rules.html Saudi Arabia to flog 75-year-old for breaching sex segregation rules Amnesty International has called on Saudi Arabia to cancel a sentence of 40 lashes handed down against a 75-year-old woman for breaching the kingdom's sex segregation rules. Published: 6:00AM GMT 15 Dec 2009 "The minister of interior (Prince Nayef bin Abdul Aziz) is reported to have ordered the immediate detention and flogging of a 75-year-old woman, Khamisa Mohammed Sawadi, along with two Saudi Arabian men known only as Fahad and Hadyan," the London-based watchdog said. "The Saudi Arabian authorities must not carry out the imminent flogging and imprisonment of an elderly woman and two younger men." Related Articles * Saudi Arabian asylum princess 'feared flogging and stoning' * Saudi Arabian princess seeks asylum in Britain over illegitimate child * China to blame for rise in number of executions * Amnesty criticises Saudi Arabia's 'shocking' human rights violations * Saudi film festival cancelled by conservatives Amnesty said all avenues of appeal had now been exhausted in Saudi courts against the trio's March conviction for being in the company of members of the opposite sex who are not close relatives. "It is abhorrent that an elderly woman is at risk of 40 lashes," said the deputy director of the watchdog's Middle East and North Africa Programme, Philip Luther. "We urge the authorities to prevent the imprisonment and flogging of Khamisa, Fahad and Hadyan." Sawadi and Fahad were sentenced to 40 lashes and four months' imprisonment, and Hadyan to 60 lashes and six months' imprisonment, Amnesty said. Sawadi also faces deportation to her native Syria on completion of her prison term. Saudi Arabia enforces a strict version of Islamic sharia law and imposes corporal punishment for a wide variety of offences. Islamism - 7 - dhu - 12-19-2009 Quote:[url="http://www.newkerala.com/news/fullnews-13914.html"]Madhya Pradesh village calm day after violence[/url] Islamism - 7 - Husky - 12-21-2009 1999 honour killing in Britain by Turkish Kurd dad turns out to be a double-murder: murdered missing girl was pregnant too, it seems. news.msn.co.nz/article/986137/girl-15-pregnant-when-murdered-by-father-in-honour-killing Quote:Girl, 15, pregnant when murdered by father in honour killing Islam. Don't ya just want to join up already? If you're male, you can become a mass-murdering jihadi and/or family murderer. And if you're female you can become a terrorist and/or be murdered by your own family. If that isn't Da greatest reason to convert to islam, then you can stop looking, because there really is no other. Islamism - 7 - Guest - 01-01-2010 [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2jARnhH1Qs&feature=player_embedded#"]Sunni protesting the shia asura rally in NYC 2009 [/url] Islamism - 7 - Guest - 01-02-2010 Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat ************************************************** *********************************** Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life. Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components. Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges. When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.. Here's how it works: As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in: United States -- Muslim 0.6% Australia -- Muslim 1.5% Canada -- Muslim 1.9% China -- Muslim 1.8% Italy -- Muslim 1.5% Norway -- Muslim 1.8% At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in: Denmark -- Muslim 2% Germany -- Muslim 3.7% United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7% Spain -- Muslim 4% Thailand -- Muslim 4.6% From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in: France -- Muslim 8% Philippines -- Muslim 5% Sweden -- Muslim 5% Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3% The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5% Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8% At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world. When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in: Guyana -- Muslim 10% India -- Muslim 13.4% Israel -- Muslim 16% Kenya -- Muslim 10% Russia -- Muslim 15% After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in: Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8% At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in: Bosnia -- Muslim 40% Chad -- Muslim 53.1% Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7% From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in: Albania -- Muslim 70% Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4% Qatar -- Muslim 77.5% Sudan -- Muslim 70% After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in: Bangladesh -- Muslim 83% Egypt -- Muslim 90% Gaza -- Muslim 98.7% Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1% Iran -- Muslim 98% Iraq -- Muslim 97% Jordan -- Muslim 92% Morocco -- Muslim 98.7% Pakistan -- Muslim 97% Palestine -- Muslim 99% Syria -- Muslim 90% Tajikistan -- Muslim 90% Turkey -- Muslim 99.8% United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96% 100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in: Afghanistan -- Muslim 100% Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100% Somalia -- Muslim 100% Yemen -- Muslim 100% Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons. 'Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel. -- Leon Uris, 'The Haj' It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate. Today's 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world's population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world's population by the end of this century. ************************************************** * Islamism - 7 - Husky - 01-10-2010 http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2010/01/mohammedans-torch-1100-cars-across.html Quote:Mohammedans torch 1100 cars across France (again!)1100 cars torched overnight (as per the jihadwatch link's title). In France. And they're so afraid they won't even mention islamism. A preview of the future of Europe. It's signing its own death warrant. Islamism - 7 - dhu - 01-15-2010 [url="http://www.dailypioneer.com/229390/Islamic-bigotry-grips-Malaysia.html"]Islamic bigotry grips Malaysia[/url] Sunanda K Datta-Ray Quote:Unreconciled to its ancient Hindu lineage and still groping for a valid Islamic identity, Malaysia is in the throes of yet another sectarian conflict, this Time with Christians over who owns Allah. Islamism - 7 - Guest - 01-15-2010 18 yrs back, when I was in Malaysia these incidences were very common, Malaysia had not changed at all, only difference, now through internet news are coming out much faster. There treatment to Chinese is much worse. Islamism - 7 - HareKrishna - 01-21-2010 While scriptural interpretation may seem like a remote and innocuous activity, close textual study of Jewish and Christian scripture played no small role in loosening the Church's domination on the intellectual and cultural life of Europe, and paving the way for unfettered secular thought. "The Muslims have the benefit of hindsight of the European experience, and they know very well that once you start questioning the holy scriptures, you don't know where it will stop," the scholar explained. The touchiness about questioning the Koran predates the latest rise of Islamic militancy. As long ago as 1977, John Wansbrough of the School of Oriental and African Studies in London wrote that subjecting the Koran to "analysis by the instruments and techniques of biblical criticism is virtually unknown." Mr. Wansbrough insisted that the text of the Koran appeared to be a composite of different voices or texts compiled over dozens if not hundreds of years. After all, scholars agree that there is no evidence of the Koran until 691 ââ¬â 59 years after Muhammad's death ââ¬â when the Dome of the Rock mosque in Jerusalem was built, carrying several Koranic inscriptions. These inscriptions differ to some degree from the version of the Koran that has been handed down through the centuries, suggesting, scholars say, that the Koran may have still been evolving in the last decade of the seventh century. Moreover, much of what we know as Islam ââ¬â the lives and sayings of the Prophet ââ¬â is based on texts from between 130 and 300 years after Muhammad's death. http://images.google.ro/imgres?imgurl=http://www.corkscrew-balloon.com/02/03/1bkk/img/raisins.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.corkscrew-balloon.com/02/03/1bkk/04b.html&usg=__KEpKJie7bmm2hPHdwqgYaZMa_2M=&h=200&w=200&sz=10&hl=ro&start=2&um=1&tbnid=0novU34S395d5M:&tbnh=104&tbnw=104&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dwhite%2Braisins%26hl%3Dro%26sa%3DX%26um%3D1 Islamism - 7 - HareKrishna - 01-27-2010 Number of people killed by islamic jihad -200 millions ..by crusade till 1291-20 millions ..by Torquemada-10220 http://www.descopera.ro/cultura/2562086-top-10-atrocitati-savarsite-in-numele-religiei/p2 To show that islamic mistics are not peaceful we have the case of Umar al-Hajj ,a mistic which porpose was to forcibly convert african tribes to islam http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P3-1106580721.html Islamism - 7 - dhu - 01-30-2010 [url="http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/jan/30/commandos-kill-deserter-jawan-in-manipur.htm"]Commandos kill deserter jawan in Manipur[/url] Quote:A jawan of 6th India [ Images ] Reserve Battalion, who deserted the force's camp with a service gun, was shot dead after he was confronted by police commandos in Imphal East district of Manipur on Saturday, police sources said. Islamism - 7 - Naresh - 01-31-2010 . [color="#FF0000"]Mods :[/color] This Article is a "keeper" and I suggest it is made a "First Post on this as well as the Twirp Thread. Thanks in advance. [url="http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/03-the-bad-sufi-ss-02"][center][size="7"][color="#006400"]The bad Sufi[/color][/size][/center][/url] Qalandar Bux Memon Quote:It is often assumed that Sufism stands opposed to Wahhabism. Wrong. Sufism and Wahhabism, in fact, share a fatal characteristic ââ¬â they are religions of the status quo. In Pakistan, Sufism legitimises barbarities of inequality and starvation ââ¬â ââ¬Ëdo nothing, itââ¬â¢s godââ¬â¢s willââ¬â¢ - while at the same time justifying structures of oppressive power, Pirism and landlordism, rather like Wahhabism in Saudi Arabia. Contemporary Sufism, rather than being a solution to Pakistanââ¬â¢s problems, is the cause. Cheers Islamism - 7 - Guest - 02-01-2010 This from Washington based secular, enjoy it. Quote:From: Kaleem Kawaja <kaleemkawaja@gmail.com> Islamism - 7 - Guest - 02-03-2010 Quote:No French citizenship to men who make wives wear veil Excellent, lot of wannabe will change. <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> |