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Indian Military News - Husky - 07-26-2009 1. http://indiatoday.intoday.in/index.php?opt...d=1&issueid=111 Friday, July 24, 2009 <b>India's 1st SSBN to be launched on Sunday </b> 2. <!--QuoteBegin-Naresh+Jul 26 2009, 02:14 PM-->QUOTE(Naresh @ Jul 26 2009, 02:14 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>PM launches INS Arihant in Visakhapatnam</b> [...] <b>As India has declared "no first use" of nuclear weapons, the country's weapons system must survive a first strike for retaliation.</b> Therefore, Arihant's primary weapon is stealth as it can lurk in ocean depths of half a kilometre or more and fire its missiles from under the sea.[right][snapback]99967[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Meanwhile, Pak intimates it <i>will</i> go for its nukes if/when the right opportunity presents itself: http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/07/edi...aper-if-in.html Tuesday, July 21, 2009 <b>Editor of Leading Pakistani Paper: 'If, in Order to Resolve Our Water Problems, We Have to Wage Nuclear War with India, We Will' </b> 3. Beyond all comprehension. How <b>Christo</b>govt crushes the heathens of Bharatam in time for Kargil anniversary. http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/07/pak...-at-indias.html jul 25th, 2009 <b>Pak war hero honoured at India's recommendation</b> Kargil. <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The man who fought on Tiger Hill from Pakistan's side was given the Nishan e Haidar, Pakistan's highest gallantry award on the recommendation of the Indian Army.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->meanwhile, saurabh kalia, tortured to death by pak, is not recommended for heroism by kkkangress. he ain't no folk hero, either. thank you, burqa dutt et al.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Christos repeatedly tried to sell out Rome to its enemies too. http://freetruth.50webs.org/B3b.htm <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Professor Gwatkin himself remarks that many of the Christians, so far from being willing to defend the Empire, were "half inclined to welcome the Goths and Persians as avengers." -- Legends of Saints and Martyrs, from The Story Of Religious Controversy, by Joseph McCabe<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Like christoparasites of India asked America to invade (Dinesh de Souza) and are helping TSP and BD to infiltrate (christogovt) and have in all likelihood struck a deal with China upon what seems like a - going by all indications - imminent invasion. Wouldn't be surprised if Santa Sonia, when she went over to China upon its invitation to her during the last olimpings, discussed with the head communists there the best course of action in detail: the communists of China could get rid of all the Dharmics in their path at will, and the islamaniacs too for all she cared, but not the christoterrorists or her own self & spawn. It would be the *christian* thing for her to have done after all, treachery being built-into christoterrorism. That would mean that this time she won't need to fly back to Italy or run to the nearest Italian/foreign embassy, but can instead play the 'brave steadfast' christian traitor, secure in the knowledge that no terrorist invader will touch her. Naxal Catholic Ramm of The Chindu/The Christist and assorted internal christists-communists will be doubly rewarded (by communist China and by the Vatican through its local representative: her most catholic majesty Queen Santa Antonia of India). http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/07/wha...s-has-been.html <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>what an eventful july this has been! remember kargil</b> jul 25th, 2009 sunday is kargil day. 10th anniversary. see kanchan gupta's blog for some stories that have been forgotten already, but deserve not to be. see http://kanchangupta.blogspot.com/ and then we have mammon-mohan singh (hat-tip agworld) of "swiss-account" fame, burqa dutt and other jaichands of "we-have-piss-in-our-time-with-pak" fame, and the kkkangress of "evm fraud" fame. what is a mere lt. kalia compared to all this? what is the worth of bhagat singh and rajguru and kartar singh sarabha and vishnu ganesh pingale? nothing. they will be dismissed by shekar gupta and vir sanghvi with the tired cliche "patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel". are swiss bank accounts the first resort? is subverting the democratic process the second resort? is spin-doctoring the third? i also liked kanchan's writeup on sharm-el-sheikh http://www.dailypioneer.com/191566/Sharm-d...pted-in-US.html Posted by nizhal yoddha at 7/25/2009 06:13:00 PM 0 comments <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Hope the secular soldiers of India are taking note of the predictable way secularism rewards those who fight and die for the Secular State Of India. The official islamists from TSP who attacked Bharatam and mutilated and massacred Indian soldiers get recommended for an award (soon the secular 'Indian' christoGovt will host such ceremonies locally and thereafter start handing out the awards itself) while the native soldiers - no matter how faithful to the christian empire, sorry secularism, they were - will be badmouthed, forgotten and their families left to rot. Secularism/christianism is a treacherous ingrate. Dharmic soldiers of the Indian army should serve Dharma alone. It alone can protect them from the treachery. In any case, it is a true and worthy cause - unlike the mirage that is secularism (a cover for christianism). Also, Dharma is actually what <i>Dharmics</i> in the Indian army ought to fight for: when earlier Nationalists defended the nation, they did so because the country has always been the embodiment of our Dharma. These days, the meaning of - and even the word - 'India' has been secularised to mean anything in India. So that "defending India" becomes "defending secularism". But it is not mere land the Hindu Nationalists of the recent past were defending, and it was certainly no alien ideology ('secularism') which they died for. And all Hindus fighting alien invaders further back in the past fought and gave their lives for Hindu Dharma, which is housed in/in the form of Bharatam. But then, that's the difference between being a Hindu Kshatriya and a mere secular clockwork soldier in Her Catholic Majesty's Secular Indian Army. The former's cause and motivations (Dharma) - being Sattvic - are the Right ones, and the latter's cause and motivations (secularism) are Tamasic and hence meaningless. Indian Military News - ravish - 07-26-2009 The launching of the nuclear submarine is indeed a landmark development. However, it has now to be ensured that it becomes operational on schedule and the other submarines of its class also do not get delayed. The delay and cost escalation of the aircraft carrier from Russia and the other adverse reports appearing in the press on the basis of CAG report are indeed disturbing. It would perhaps be appropriate for the Ministry of Defense to issue certain clarifications on these press reports. Often there are circumstances beyond the control of MOD or the Government of India that results in these types of cost escalations and delays. It is a known fact world wide that defense deals almost always involves commissions, cuts and political compulsions in varying proportions. It is always not possible to get the best deal or the best available equipment. A powerful defense procurement machinery needs to be put into place, so that the delays are kept to a minimum and at the same time , there is less time available to the rival suppliers to plant stories in the press to generate a controversy and stall the procurement . Indian Military News - Capt M Kumar - 07-26-2009 Passage of time will no doubt tell us who or who all were responsible for the disastrous joint statement this time. However, one is tempted to state that if âwar is too important a matter to be left to the militaryâ, as Georges Clemenceau had said, any discussion with Pakistan is also âtoo important to be left to our diplomats and pseudo security expertsâ, while the military is kept out of the loop. Indira Gandhi made the same mistake and before her that capable PM, Lal Bahadur Shastri at Tashkent and lost out to the wily Pakistanisâ. Successive governments, irrespective of their political affiliations, have followed this, much to the disadvantage of the nation. There are three obvious blunders in the joint statement...... to continue reading click on image above. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_OOAvkOa_nho/Smk6...DAY+ARTICLE.jpg Indian Military News - HareKrishna - 07-26-2009 <!--QuoteBegin-Naresh+Jul 25 2009, 02:23 PM-->QUOTE(Naresh @ Jul 25 2009, 02:23 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--> In my opinion the CVBG must, in addition to Attack Submarines, also take along with it Two Boomer Submarines although it seems that the "Boomers" are already "Resting near the Sea Bed" in The Area of Conflict. BTW : If you do not know what India can or will do with an Aircraft Carrier then I suggest you "procure" a Book on Naval Warfare! Cheers <!--emo&:beer--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cheers.gif' /><!--endemo--> [right][snapback]99955[/snapback][/right] <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> You have right about naval warfare.But all nuclear powers have land based long range nukes despite the fact they have also alot of nuclear subs.They are complementary in roles. 1-The problem is not in the war but in the fact that tropical people are geneticaly more religious then nordic people(chinese,european).African and middle eastern people make may childrens which are educated to be as fanatical as their parents.You cant make them to be non-religious because of their genes, you cant make them to belive a peaceful religion because of the dictatorial religion in which they already are. The tropicals will make more and more fanatical childrens which slowly override the non-religious nordics(which will be assimilated) while tropical people members of peacefull religions will be converted to dictatorial religion (thats because dictatorials have more power ). Tropicals wil not have a reaction against religious dictatorship as europeans has in the 16 century. So there is no hope. 2-Lets supose that a dictatorial form of hinduism will arise ,a form that will remove all the sects of hinduism.What will be the difference betwin this neo-hinduism and abrahamics? However even this dictatorial type of hinduism is preferable to abrahamism because his traditions dont impose force-converting others so it will contain the seeds for a future religious freedom. This seeds you cant find it in the books of abrahamics. 3-Simplification of hinduism ,taoism and other oriental religions.Hinduism is reduced to non-iconism and smartism,taoism is reduced to non-idol and health regime.If you cant destroy them make the the simple and simple.More easy to manage ,more easy for dictatorial politicians to control them and the people. PS-The 3 points above are speculations. Indian Military News - Capt M Kumar - 07-27-2009 <!--QuoteBegin-Capt M Kumar+Jul 26 2009, 02:40 AM-->QUOTE(Capt M Kumar @ Jul 26 2009, 02:40 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->The Kargil War: A feud for thought July 14th, 2009 By Shankar Roychowdhury July 26 is Kargil Vijay Divas, the time every year when national memory needs to be jogged into awakening about a not-all-that-distant past but one almost totally extinct in public consciousness. A front-page newspaper photograph captured the moment â two Sikh pipers playing against the forbidding mass of Tiger Hill looming through the clouds, in remembrance of its recapture by Grenadiers and Sikhs of the Indian Army on July 5, 1999, an incredible feat of extreme mountaineering under enemy fire. http://www.hotklix.com/link/news/India/The...eud-for-thought [right][snapback]99964[/snapback][/right] <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Hi, This is to inform that your comment for the article "The Kargil War: A feud for thought " has been published on Deccan Chronicle. Regards, Comment Moderator. Indian Military News - Guest - 07-27-2009 <b>First stage of sea trial of Nerpa N-sub for India completed</b> <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->First stage of sea trial of Nerpa N-sub for India completed Moscow: <b>Russia has completed the first stage of pre-delivery trials of the Akula-II class 'Nerpa' nuclear-powered attack submarine, which is likely to be operational with the Indian Navy much before New Delhi's indigenous 'INS Arihant'.</b> The 'Nerpa' submarine will join the Navy by the year-end with the first set of sea trials being completed successfully according to schedule, an official of the Amur Shipyard was quoted as saying by the 'RIA Novosti' Monday. But top officials in both Moscow and New Delhi are tight-lipped about the armaments the submarine will carry. <b>While 'INS Arihant' is being armed with 700-km range K-15 nuclear-tipped missiles, it is not known if Nerpa will have Indian or Russian nuclear missiles.</b> <b>'Nerpa', the Akula-II class submarine, has a displacement of 12,000 tonnes and is far bigger than 'INS Arihant', which has just 6,000 tonnage capacity.</b> India joined an elite club of nations, including the US, Russia, China, France and the UK to produce nuclear under-sea vessels with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and his wife Gursharan Kaur inaugurating the sub for extensive sea trials on Sunday. The new trials for Nerpa are taking place as it was hit by a major mishap on November 8 in the Sea of Japan when accidental triggering of the fire suppression system led to release of highly toxic gas, killing 20 crew members and civilian technical staff. It resumed sea trials on July 10 following extensive repairs. Nerpa is the latest nuclear submarine in the Russian Navy's armada. Though 'INS Arihant' has some features like the Russian sub, but according to NATO sources the Akula-class vessel is one of the most potent undersea weapons in the world, far superior than the Chinese subs. After the sea trials, Indian Navy men would be trained on Nerpa, which can come in handy for personnel posted on board the 'Arihant'. "The (Nerpa) sub is back at the in Bolshoi Kamen (port) in the Maritime Territory, and it is getting ready for the second stage of the scheduled trials," the shipyard official said. Some special equipment for performance checking and adjustment work will be installed on board the submarine, before it begins the second and final stage of pre-delivery trials. Source: PTI <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Indian Military News - Guest - 08-19-2009 <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Armyâs valiant bid to trace Brahma kamal, snow leopard</b> pioneer.com Durgesh Nandan Jha | New Delhi For a month beginning next Thursday, a group of soldiers will make a rare attempt in the higher Himalayas to trace the legendary Brahma kamal and the supposedly extinct snow leopard. <b>The Indian Army has set itself a new goal: To research flora and fauna on the high altitudes of Northern Himalayan region, which is practically out of human reach. A band of 15 soldiers from IV Garhwal Rifles, stationed in New Delhi, will undertake the trip to Gangotri glacier, Nandanvan, Vasuki Tal and the Satopanth peak, among other places, to identify and collect proof of rare species of animals and plants still available in the region</b>. According to Commanding Officer Ajay Kothiyal, the research material would be forwarded to the Indian Mountaineering Foundation (IMF) and its scientists. âDue to the areaâs inaccessibility and extreme weather conditions, there has been little research on the flora and fauna in the Himalayan region. Flowers like the Brahma kamal, blue poppy, snow lotus and some local medicinal plants find mention in books only (written years ago) and so do rare species like the Ibex (snow goat) and snow leopard. We want to make available some recent data on their availability,â said Kothiyal. He said a group of 15 officers and jawans, all of them Garhwalis born and brought up in the region, will start for Gaumukh - at an altitude of 14,000 ft â on Thursday and then climb from Gangotri glacier to Nandanvan to Vasuki Tal to Satopanth and Chaukhambha peaks. âDuring this expedition, they will photograph and videograph all the rare flora and fauna they come across,â he added. <b>The rare species found in this region include the snow leopard (Uncia uncia), brown bear (Ursus arctos), musk deer (Moschus chrysogaster), blue sheep or bharal (Pseudois nayaur), Himalayan tahr (Hemitragus jemlahicus), Himalayan monal (Lophophorus impejanus), Koklass (Pucrasia macrolopha) and Himalayan snowcock (Tetraogallus himalayensis).</b> âAt the intermediate level, I was a student of biology. I even took admission in B Sc programme but left it midway after I got a call from the Army. The mountaineering expedition will give me a chance to learn first-hand about the flora and fauna. I am sure we will do some pioneering work and pave the way for further research,â Praveen Joshi, one of the expedition members excited with the idea, said. The Indian Army doesnât have any particular wing for environment-related research. This effort by the Garhwal Rifles, if successful, may give the nation a pioneering idea on researching areas that have got out of reach for the common man and specialists alike.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Indian Military News - Capt M Kumar - 09-03-2009 NEW DELHI: Five of IAF'S elite Communication Squadron made the supreme sacrifice in saving the life of then Prime Minister Morarji Desai on November 4, 1977, when the Tu-124 jet, V-643 Pushpak, crashlanded at Jorhat in Assam. The pilots were Wing Commander Clarence D'Lima, Wing Commander Joginder Singh, Squadron Leader Mathew Cyriac, Squadron Leader V V S Sankar Flight Lieutenant O P Arora. All of them were killed in the crash. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/in...how/4966076.cms Indian Military News - Guest - 11-20-2009 <b>Politics hurting military modernisationâ</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Two days after he sparked a controversy with his remarks about women flying fighter aircraft, Air Forceâs Vice Chief Air Marshal Pranab Kumar Barbora (59) on Thursday again raised eyebrows by saying political squabbling was hurting the militaryâs modernisation. <b>At a CII seminar, Barbora blamed successive Opposition parties for blocking critical military acquisitions for narrow political goals.</b> <b>He said defence proposals cleared by one government were contested by the Opposition, while the same parties would change their position after coming to power.</b> âThis impinges very badly on our defence requirements,â said the second-in-command of the worldâs fourth largest air force, which has been hamstrung with shortage of fighter jets. It is managing with 33 fighter squadrons against a sanctioned 39 and a half. Top officers rarely make public comments on the political establishment, but this 38 year Air Force veteran from Assam, who has flown every single fighter aircraft the Indian Air Force possesses has always been a little different. âPlease pardon me for saying things which must be said,â Barbora said. He blasted the culture of referring everything (defence deals) to the Central Vigilance Commission. âRumours of kickbacks affect purchase process as everyone looks at each other with suspicion.â He said India was satisfied assembling tools and kits, while China had streaked ahead in the defence sector. âHindustan Aeronautics Limited is pleased to produce doors and undercarriage for Airbus whereas China is producing the whole damn thing.â <b>He said India should be bold enough to allow more foreign direct investment in the defence sector. At present, foreign firms are allowed to invest only 26 per cent in Indian companies</b>. <b>Barbora asked private firms to emulate reverse engineering of technologies from China. âForget about ethics. Has anyone ever had the courage to ask China why are you doing it? If you canât do it yourself, you should know how to reverse engineer.â</b> On Tuesday, Barbora had said that considering the large investment the government made on fighter pilots, women wishing to pursue the vocation should devote themselves entirely to it for a certain number of years and avoid having children during that period to prevent any disruptions <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Indian Military News - agnivayu - 11-21-2009 India's need more leaders like Barbora Indian Military News - Guest - 01-03-2010 [url="http://www.telegraphindia.com/1100102/jsp/nation/story_11934631.jsp"]Nod to US gun purchase minus bids[/url] Quote:New Delhi, Jan. 1: The government has authorised an outright purchase of 145 ultra-light howitzers from the US, a highly-placed defence ministry source said today. This means direct bribe to babus and Congress Party, so nice. Indian Military News - Guest - 01-26-2010 Indian Military News - Guest - 01-26-2010 [url="http://www.thehindu.com/2009/08/15/images/2009081562071501.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.thehindu.com/2009/08/15/stories/2009081562071500.htm&us"]Ashok Chakra for Mohit Sharma, Sreeram Kumar[/url] Quote:New Delhi: Major Mohit Sharma from 1 Para (Special Forces), killed in a battle with terrorists in the Hafruda forest in Jammu and Kashmir this March, has been honoured with Ashok Chakra, the countryââ¬â¢s highest peace time gallantry award on the occasion of Independence Day. Indian Military News - Guest - 01-28-2010 [url="http://www.defense-aerospace.com/article-view/release/111678/us-offers-india-145-m777-lightweight-howitzers-for-$647m.html"]India ââ¬â M777 155mm Light-Weight Towed Howitzers[/url] Quote:WASHINGTON --- The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress Jan. 22 of a possible Foreign Military Sale to India of 145 M777 155mm Light-Weight Towed Howitzers with Laser Inertial Artillery Pointing Systems (LINAPS) and associated parts, equipment, training and logistical support for a complete package worth approximately $647 million. Indian Military News - Arun_S - 02-16-2010 [url="http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/5575728.cms"]India to spend $200 billion on defence systems by 2022[/url] Quote:15 Feb 2010 Indian Military News - Arun_S - 02-16-2010 [url="http://publication.samachar.com/pub_article.php?id=7880108&nextids=7880107%7C7881020%7C7880108%7C7878201%7C7878200&nextIndex=3"] India is not a 'war-mongering' country: Antony[/url] Quote:Feb 15, 2010 at 1606 hrs IST Indian Military News - ramana - 02-16-2010 With that kind of money $200B over ten years one can start a brand new arms industry! However most of it will end up in Swiss banks. Mudy that gun in the old Republic Day parade is a 5.5 inch medium gun howitzer. Indian Military News - Guest - 02-16-2010 And that is 'C' - Block of the Cannought place in Delhi, not the Rajpath. Indian Military News - Infinity - 02-16-2010 <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> Some MSPaint Magic from myside.. I know it is not that neat.. but still <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> Thanks Infinity Indian Military News - Guest - 02-17-2010 [size="6"]CAE teams up with TATAs for T 90 and T72 tank simulator[/size] CAE, the specialist training and simulation provider has teamed up with the Tata group to develop a tank simulator for the T90 and T72 tanks. This is in respose to an RFP from the Indian MoD for simulators for Russian origin tanks. According to CAE executives at the Defexpo 2010 show in Delhi, the simulator has been delivered for trials to the Indian Army. India does not have simulators for tank training and most training now is done on live tanks. This leads to waste of resources. Tanks simulators has been a long standing demand of the Indian army. CAE is also developing a simulator for the C130J transport aircraft which the Indian Air Force is scheduled to receive early next year. The aircraft is configured for special forces operation and the simulator will reflect that to impart training to pilots for this purpose. The simulator will be similar to the one CAE is building for another C130J aircraft for the U.S. Air Forces Special operations command. The simulator will likely be located at the Hindon Air Base near Delhi which will be the base for the C130J transport planes. In a related development, the Mahindra group has got a contract to run the simulator training facility. CAE is also developing a fixed base training device for the MiG 21 fighter aircraft which is the mainstay of the Indian Air Force. |