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Islamism - 7 - Guest - 03-08-2010 [size="6"]In US, Muslim women challenge mosque gender separation[/size] WASHINGTON: A group of Muslim women have risked arrest as they sought to pray in the main area of the Islamic Centre of Washington -- an area ordinarily reserved exclusively for men. "Wooden barriers have to be taken down and women have to be allowed to join, to pray behind the men in the main praying area. That's our request," said Fatima Thompson, an American Muslim who converted to the faith 18 years ago. "We are against gender segregation, against the fact that women are put aside or in a totally different room at the mosque," added Thompson, who led the group of female protestors, all self-identified progressive Muslims. The yesterday protest was the second time women have sought to share the main prayer area at the mosque in Washington DC, after a group of 20 women first tried in February. "The general issue we are pushing is gender segregation and the ramifications it fosters. It's not healthy, and not reflective of our society here. It's very reflective of very restrictive, ultra orthodox societies," Thompson added. Their hair covered with headscarves, the group of six women entered the mosque's prayer area via the main door usually reserved for men and walked through to the room where around 20 men had already arrived. Women and children ordinarily enter the Washington mosque, located in the city's embassy district, through a small door hidden behind a screen. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/In-US-Muslim-women-challenge-mosque-gender-separation/articleshow/5657852.cms Islamism - 7 - Husky - 03-09-2010 Forgot to cross-post this from the christianism thread yesterday. Nigeria: Quote:Nigeria's 65 million mainstream Muslims, who make up about [color="#0000FF"]half[/color] of the population.The other half is christian. - In November 2008, christomaniacs and islamaniacs clashed with arms and machetes: more than 700 dead. Followed by deaths due to intermediate skirmishes between the 2 strains of human rabies. - July 2009: More than 150 feared dead in Islamist attacks in Nigeria and Dozens of Nigerian pro-Taliban Islamists killed after police station raid - Then in January 2010, christians massacred islamics and vice-versa (crusade + jihad), leaving around 550 dead. That was followed by intermediate clashes again: like killings of 4 islamic Fulani herdsmen by christian Berom in February. - [color="#FF0000"]Now[/color], March 2010: muslims took revenge and went on a killing spree in christian villages, mainly little children and women hatcheted to death. Again, the toll has been variously estimated to between 200-500 (as at present). Note how Nigerians are losing all round (1000s of Nigerians dead) and only christoislamania has won: 1000s of human sacrifices for bloodthirsty jeebusjehovallah who - though non-existent - is an idea ("artifice for aggression" as SR Goel said) that still manages to incite its zombies to sacrifice other humans. Why do Nigerians (all of Africa actually) continue to stand christoislamania? It is entirely alien to them. They should dump the christoislamic disease - all variants of it - and go back to their Gods. 1. news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100308/wl_africa_afp/nigeriaunrest Quote:Nigeria sends in troops after 500 killed in attack 2. news.brisbanetimes.com.au/breaking-news-world/central-nigeria-on-red-alert-after-500-killed-20100308-ps37.html Quote:Central Nigeria on red alert after 500 killed 3. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/nigeria/7396522/500-dead-after-violent-clashes-in-Nigeria.html Quote:500 dead after violent clashes in Nigeria 4. news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8555018.stm Quote:Nigeria religious clash 'kills 500' near JosIt's a flash-forward to what will happen to converted India. This Great Disease - all strains: christianism, islamism, communism etc. - must be removed from Africa, from India, from the world. Converted Nigerians should burn down all their churches and mosques. All of Africa should kick out this killer disease that leaves so many of their own dead and which intends to keep sacrificing people to jeebusjehovallah as long as christoislamism is allowed to exist. [color="#0000FF"]ADDED:[/color] Some background is given in the following: 5. In November 2008: Christians massacred some 300-400 muslims. The total toll was 700, so presumably the islamics would have massacred some 300 christians. 10,000 christoislamaniacs had to flee their homes/each other: www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/nigeria/3537498/Nigerian-army-takes-over-city-hit-by-Muslim-Christian-clashes.html Quote:Nigerian army takes over city hit by Muslim-Christian clashes 6. As everyone knows, Islamism had brought in Sharia into Nigeria. (Just like christianism had brought in its own disease) www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/nigeria/5918991/More-than-150-feared-dead-in-Islamist-attacks-in-Nigeria.html Quote:More than 150 feared dead in Islamist attacks in Nigeria 7. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/nigeria/5912935/Dozens-of-Nigerian-pro-Taliban-Islamists-killed-after-police-station-raid.html Quote:Dozens of Nigerian pro-Taliban Islamists killed after police station raid Mad human disease (MHD). Note how animals don't catch this (for once they are more fortunate than us). The mindvirus affects only human brains, causing rabies and zombieness and vampiric tendencies that result in acts of human sacrifice to a non-existent (imaginary) demonic fiction variously called "jesus, god, allah". Islamism - 7 - Guest - 03-10-2010 Butchered Christian villagers are buried by the truckload in Nigeria, after being hacked to death by hundreds of devout Muslim machete wielders, who praised Allah as they went about their task. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ Islamism - 7 - Husky - 03-10-2010 [quote name='ankit-s' date='10 March 2010 - 06:34 PM' timestamp='1268225815' post='105029'] Butchered Christian villagers are buried by the truckload in Nigeria, after being hacked to death by hundreds of devout Muslim machete wielders, who praised Allah as they went about their task. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ [/quote] Previously, the christians had done the same to the muslims. They keep killing each other. It's their christoislamism. Islamism - 7 - Guest - 03-10-2010 [size="6"]Muslims outraged at UK screening of 'Fitna' film[/size] The screening of Geert Wildersââ¬â¢ controversial anti-Islam film in the U.K. Sunday outraged Muslims and rights organizations earning the far-right Dutch MP the labels "fascist" and "racist." The film, called Fitna, was screened at the House of Lords in response to an invitation Wilders got on March 5 from Lord Malcolm Pearson, leader of the United Kingdom Independence Party (UKIP) and member of the House of Lords, and Baroness Caroline Anne Cox, cross-bench member of the House of Lords. " I believe that this man, Wilders, from Holland is a racist hater of Muslims, hater of Islam, and he shouldn't be allowed into our country to whip up that hatred " British MP George Galloway. Wilders' trip to the U.K. is part of the Stop Islamization Of Europe (SIOE) campaign. SIOE is an organization whose goal is to prevent Islam from becoming a substantial political force in Europe. Wilders' visit is supported by the far-right English Defense League (EDL). The film, which declares Islam is incompatible with democracy and calls the Quran a fascist book, was scheduled for screening in the U.K. in 2009. However, Wilders was denied entry to the country. He was accused of inciting hatred and designated a persona non grata. The ban was overturned in October 2009, a moved that Wilders called a ââ¬Åvictory for freedom.ââ¬Â British rights groups slammed the visit and submitted a complaint to the Interior Minister, calling Wilders the Dutch version of the English Defence League (EDL), whose sole goal is to fight the presence of Islam in Europe, and the far-right British National Party (BNP), which restricts its membership to Caucasians only. Protesters from Unite Against Fascism (UAF) waved signs that read "EDL+BNP= Nazi racist thugs" and chanted "EDL, go to hell, and take your Nazi mates as well." The police made sure to keep UAF protestors away from ADL supporters who carried signs welcoming Wilders. Meanwhile, Muslims inside and outside the U.K. continued their campaign against what they perceive as systematic and intentional insults directed against their religion, their holy book, and their prophet. The campaigns, which are mostly launched on the internet and call for boycotting countries that insult Islam, cite Wilders' movie, the Danish cartoons, and Theo Van Gough's movie Submission as just a few, yet flagrant, examples European insults to Islam.. However, online campaigns also indicate that Muslims are losing hope as they no longer trust that serious political action will be taken to stop spread of Islamophobia in Europe. The ban on Wildersââ¬â¢ film last year was not only praised by Muslims, but also by British officials who view the MP as a fanatic extremist intent on inciting intolerance in Europe. British MP George Galloway expressed his support for the British government's decision to ban Wilders from the U.K. "I believe that this man, Wilders, from Holland is a racist hater of Muslims, hater of Islam, and he shouldn't be allowed into our country to whip up that hatred," Galloway said in a T.V. interview. http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2010/03/09/102563.html Islamism - 7 - Guest - 03-10-2010 [size="6"]Broad support' for Australian Sharia law[/size] THERE'S broad Muslim community support for aspects of Sharia law being adopted in Australia, a leading spokesman for the religion says. However, harsh penal aspects of the law, including stoning and chopping off hands, will never work and aren't being called for, Islamic Friendship Association of Australia president Keysar Trad says. But personal aspects of the law, particularly those involving marriage and inheritance, would be broadly supported and would offer great help to ordinary Australian Muslims, he said. Mr Trad's remarks come after Dr Zachariah Matthews, president of the Australian Islamic Mission, made a similar call, saying aspects of Sharia law could run parallel to existing legislation. Dr Matthews was speaking during an open day at Lakemba Mosque in Sydney on Saturday. Some non-Muslims in the audience were reportedly left shocked by the speech. "Most people seem to think that when it comes to Sharia law it's just about the penal provisions, but that's not that case," Mr Trad said. "(The penal provisions) can't work here. No serious person would advocate them." But he said adopting aspects of Sharia marital and inheritance law - in a dual legal system - would be an advantage, particularly for women. "At the moment it can disadvantage Muslims here, particularly women, because if a woman gets divorced through the normal civil process that divorce is not recognised in Muslim countries," Mr Trad said. "So they would still be considered to be married elsewhere." Equally, Australian governments don't recognise divorce documents made by imams, the mosque and community leaders, Mr Trad said. "These are all considerations that Muslims living in Australia face all the time and a lot of them support introducing these parts of Sharia law here," he added. Dr Matthews also said he was not proposing the introduction of wider Sharia law. "I don't think we are so unsophisticated that we cannot consider a multilayered legal system as long as it doesn't conflict with the existing civil system," he was quoted as saying by Fairfax. There are about 340,000 Muslims in Australia, or 1.7 per cent of the population, Australian Bureau of Statistics figures show. http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/broad-support-for-australian-sharia-law/story-e6frfku0-1225838340625 Islamism - 7 - Guest - 03-11-2010 [size="6"]Swedish artist has no regrets over prophet drawing[/size] Stockholm: The point of a caricature depicting the Prophet Muhammad as a dog was to show that artistic freedom allows mockery of all religions, including the most sacred symbols of Islam, the Swedish artist who created it said on Wednesday. Lars Vilks - the target of an alleged murder plot involving an American woman who dubbed herself "Jihad Jane" ââ¬â said he has no regrets about the drawing, which is considered deeply offensive by many Muslims. "I'm actually not interested in offending the prophet. The point is actually to show that you can," Vilks said in an interview in Stockholm. "There is nothing so holy you can't offend it." Vilks made his rough sketch showing Muhammad's head on a dog's body more than a year after 12 Danish newspaper cartoons of the prophet sparked furious protests in Muslim countries in 2006. Islamic law generally opposes any depiction of the prophet, even favourable, for fear it could lead to idolatry. Vilks submitted the drawing to an exhibit at a Swedish cultural heritage centre, which turned it down, citing security concerns. The issue went largely unnoticed until a Swedish newspaper printed the drawing with an editorial defending the freedom of expression. The publication led to protests from Muslim countries, and briefly revived a heated debate in the West and the Muslim world about religious sensitivities and the limits of free speech. It also led to numerous death threats against Vilks, who was temporarily moved to a secret location after al Qaeda in Iraq put a USD 100,000 bounty on his head in September 2007. The 63-year-old artist said he has now built his own defence system, including a "homemade" safe room and a barbed-wire sculpture that could electrocute potential intruders. He also has an axe "to chop down" anyone trying to climb through the windows of his home, in southern Sweden. "If something happens, I know exactly what to do," Vilks said. He said he believes the suspects in the latest alleged plot to kill him ââ¬â seven people arrested in Ireland and a Pennsylvania woman held in the US ââ¬â were not professionals but "rather low-techââ¬Â. He said he had learned from American media reports that Colleen R LaRose, who called herself JihadJane in a YouTube video, had visited the area where he lives, but he didn't know whether that was correct. "I'm glad she didn't kill me," Vilks said, with a half-smile. Nalin Pekgul, a moderate Muslim and high-ranking member of Sweden's opposition Social Democratic Party, told Swedish Radio the threats against Vilks were unacceptable but added his drawing had profoundly hurt Muslims. "A dog is unclean. To describe Muhammad as a dog is like saying you are unclean" to Muslims, said Pekgul, a Kurdish immigrant from Turkey. An eccentric man with dishevelled gray hair and thick-lensed glasses, Vilks referred to himself as "the artist" and described his life as a movie plot. "It's a good story. It's about the bad guys and a good guy, and they try to kill him," he said. http://www.zeenews.com/news610292.html Islamism - 7 - acharya - 03-12-2010 Current Trends in Islamist Ideology vol. 1 Available in Adobe Acrobat PDF format. [ Show/Hide Abstracts ] Introduction to Current Trends vol. 1 Islamism and Terrorism: The Ideological Dimension by Hillel Fradkin, Husain Haqqani Published on May 19th, 2005 Recent Statements of Islamist Ideology: Bin Laden and Zarqawi Speak by Hillel Fradkin Published on May 19th, 2005 The Ideologies of South Asian Jihadi Groups by Husain Haqqani Published on May 19th, 2005 Radical Islamist Ideologies in Southeast Asia by Angel Rabasa Published on May 19th, 2005 The Impact of the War in Iraq On the Global Jihad by Reuven Paz Published on May 19th, 2005 The Penetration of Islamist Ideology in Britain by Michael Whine Published on May 19th, 2005 Al Qaeda's Ideology by Rohan Gunaratna Published on May 19th, 2005 http://www.currenttrends.org/research/ctID.5/ctrend.asp Islamism - 7 - HareKrishna - 03-14-2010 From a friend of mine Qasar:in Christianity occurred horrors, do not confuse Christianity with the papacy. and "the sword" was made politicization, not Christianization. MY friend: I do not confuse Christianity with anything, you confuse him. You confuse Christianity with that dream in your head that you think real. Christianity was never what you think it was, since ear cut by Peter and ending with Legionnaires Orthodox. Header: 1 Islamic countries want only to be free, without religious influence from other countries or other policies of which some are totally antagonistic to the Islamic religion. 2in principle rather die with some one who comes in the name of peace in their country but with planes coming battle where children of Muslim men died in the arms of parents killed by bullets. 3.Asta will, if nobody would go to make morality and politics in their countries to do more so the police are convinced we hear in this life as some Islamic people bad people. 4Pin to follow no matter what religion they are or not and how, man we may be Christians but to keep cross in one hand and mouth to judge and with other hand to cut off the sword does not look at all morality and humanity . My friend: 1.Vor shit! No one in the last 25-30 years has threatened indepandence of Muslim countries. Yet they have not hesitated to attack the West, that those guys who learned to be free (see the case of Afghanistan in the fight against Russia). What would have to start our campaign and Christians exploded bombs that engage Muslim countries "Christian"? Sharia is completely antagonistic to the legislation and customs of European and they want to implement in England. Let's put the British bomb in Damascus! 2. Those bullets were fired by Muslims. Until 2001 there was no military involvement of Western states in the Muslim world (except first Gulf War where the Americans have defended some Arabs from other Arabs) but this has not stopped some dementia to attack U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. In the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center was intreptat impôt whose foreign invaders? And since it is excusable on the grounds that a terrorist attack is defended by "invading enemy"? Americans somehow hunted civilians in Somalia? 3. This will not only they know no other company. You think that women would love to be stoned to talk to foreign men (given searcher_star link with a case in Turkey)? Why the hell we adopted a declaration of human rights? It was a trample some countries led by some Neanderthal? Because some Christians like you, so compassionate and indulgent with atrocities committed in the name of faith in the dream of Bronze Age ancestors, criticism of religion has left the scope of the Declaration of Human Rights in both countries hub banana, sorry, the oil can legally prigoneasca those who criticize Islam. 4. That 's not really matter, all one water and one down! Our luck is that over the last Renaissance Europe. Islam has remained throughout the Middle Ages, is a few hundred years hated Christianity. More sad than that is that will not learn. And yes, it's our mistake, those of countries "Christian", as we allow the perpetuation and spread their barbaric practices. Get set to be an embargo, a closure of borders to citizens of states that violate human rights. It will see then as they learn on the fly how to make a constitution, a law, how to manage a country the right way. QUOTE Religion is just an excuse ... has ever been otherwise? My friend: This is just your opinion. In this case religion is not an excuse is a source. Read the following passage carefully and try to identify the economic and political component of the next attack. On 3 August 1989, while Mustafa Mahmoud Mazeh was priming a book bomb loaded with RDX explosives in a hotel in Paddington, Central London, the bomb exploded prematurely, taking out two floors of the hotel and killing Mazeh. A previously unknown Lebanese group, the Organization of the Mujahidin of Islam, said he died preparing an attack "on the apostate Rushdie". There is a shrine in Tehran's Behesht-e Zahra cemetery for Mustafa Mahmoud Mazeh that says he was "Martyred in London, 3 August 1989. The first martyr to die on a mission to kill Salman Rushdie." Mazeh's mother was invited to relocate to Iran, and the Islamic World Movement of Martyrs' Commemoration built his shrine in the cemetery that holds thousands of Iranian soldiers slain in the Iranââ¬âIraq War.[24] During the 2006 Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy, Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah declared that "If there had been a Muslim to carry out Imam Khomeini's fatwàagainst the renegade Salman Rushdie, this rabble who insult our Prophet Mohammed in Denmark, Norway and France would not have dared to do so. I am sure there are millions of Muslims who are ready to give their lives to defend our prophet's honour and we have to be ready to do anything for that."[33] James Phillips of the Heritage Foundation testified before the United States Congress that a "March 1989" (sic) explosion in Britain was a Hezbollah attempt to assassinate Rushdie which failed when a bomb exploded prematurely, killing a Hezbollah activist in London. Mr abbulafia Sorry do that everywhere. I have carefully read the Quran and hadith know by hearth many sites and sure to ask Muslims, whether Shia or Sunni, to kill those who do not convert. As I said, the Koran should be rewritten. My friend: Well do not you read you well, you said you love those verses those of another religion, I do not know how you saw the word to kill infidels tongue.gif abbulafia: I like "Mrs." are the pot and bringing up children, husband and go wash his boots in 3 steps behind him, with head down of course ... My friend: thats for nothing, it will be busy in heaven with 72 virgins and will forget about you and childrens. <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> Islamism - 7 - Bharatvarsh2 - 03-17-2010 Quote:Curfew relaxed in violence-hit Bareilly Islamism - 7 - Husky - 03-17-2010 More on the above: the who started it, how, how many etc. http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2010/03/mohammedans-riot-in-bareilly-riots-that.html Islamism - 7 - Guest - 03-21-2010 [size="5"][url="http://www.justsickshit.com/2008/terrorists/al-qaeda-burning-men-alive/"]JIHAD AGAINST BAD MUSLIMS[/url][/size] Here true Muslims are burning down bad Muslims http://www.justsickshit.com/2008/terrorists/al-qaeda-burning-men-alive/ Here a true Muslim child is beheading a bad Muslim amidst cheers of "Allah-u-Akbar" (Warning extremely grumsome): http://www.truthtube.tv/play.php?vid=2008 Islamism - 7 - Guest - 03-21-2010 [size="6"][url="http://www.islam-watch.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=376:unusual-jihad&catid=107:khalaf&Itemid=58"]Kids go to serve sex in Dubai[/url][/size] Hundreds of minors flown out to Gulf to dance in bars, provide sex, as Ramzan month of abstinence ends. For three days now, 2000 girls, almost all minors, have left for the Middle East, particularly Dubai, to feed the needs of a population starved of entertainment and sex, post the rigours of Ramzan. The girls have been told they are being taken to dance in bars, but it is implicit that they will double up as prostitutes for well-paying clients. Another 1,000 will leave by tomorrow. Of course, any attempts to do away with the customary child abuse will encounter resistance based on the example of Muhammad, who married 9-year-old Aisha (Sahih Bukhari 5.58.234). Islamism - 7 - Guest - 03-23-2010 [size="6"][url="http://sify.com/news/bangladesh-hospital-bans-burqa-to-prevent-theft-news-international-kdwn4beiifi.html"]Bangladesh hospital bans burqa to prevent theft[/url][/size] Bangladesh's largest state-run hospital has banned staff from wearing full-face burqas after an increase in thefts of mobile phones and wallets from wards, a hospital chief said Monday. Female staff have been ordered to wear standard uniforms, which do not cover either the hair or face, while on duty at the Bangabandhu Medical University Hospital in Dhaka, senior administrator Abdul Majid Bhuiyan told AFP. "We decided to enforce our uniform regulations after discovering instances of stealing by veiled staff," he said, adding some burqa-wearing staff had also been secretly sending unqualified "proxy workers" to cover shifts for them. Only a small number of women working at the hospital wear the full-face veil, he said. "Doctors have also said burqa-clad women who travel to work on crowded public buses then do not change into regulation uniform could carry diseases into the hospital," he said. Bangladesh has the world's fourth-largest Muslim population. Islam is the state religion although only a small minority of women wear the burqa. Islamism - 7 - Guest - 03-23-2010 [url="http://news.rediff.com/special/2010/mar/23/why-hyderabad-is-a-breeding-ground-for-jihad.htm"]Why Hyderabad is a breeding ground for jihad[/url] Islamism - 7 - manish - 03-24-2010 [url="http://www.thehindu.com/2010/03/12/stories/2010031253560900.htm"] IUML seeks release of life convicts[/url] TIRUNELVELI: The 62nd Community Renaissance Conference of Indian Union Muslim League has urged the Tamil Nadu Government to release the Muslim prisoners, who have served ten years of imprisonment after being sentenced to life term in the Coimbatore serial blast case. One of the resolutions passed in the conference at Melapalayam on Wednesday said a total of 1,500 life convicts were released recently in connection with the Anna birth centenary celebration. In view of the World Classic Tamil Conference to be conducted at Coimbatore, the Tamil Nadu Government should release 51 Muslim life convicts, including 18 persons who were awarded life term in the Coimbatore serial blast case since they had already served 10 years behind the bars. Another resolution complained that the police are not giving ââ¬Ëno objection certificates' to the Muslim youths from Melapalayam, who have applied for passports with the goal of securing a job in the foreign countries. Hence the State Government should weed out the hurdles in the process and the Central Government should ensure the early dispatch of the same to the applicants. The United Progressive Alliance Government at the Centre should implement the recommendations of Justice Ranganath Misra Committee that had advocated in favour of giving 10 per cent reservation for Muslims in education and employment opportunities. Besides expediting the completion of the four-laning of Palayamkottai ââ¬â Tuticorin National Highway, the Union Government should expand the Tuticorin airport so that it can handle wide-bodied aircrafts with higher passenger capacity, another resolution appealed. Speaking on the occasion, Union Minister for Chemicals and Fertilizers M.K. Alagiri said Muslims, who were supporting Chief Minister, M. Karunanidhi, ever since he entered politics, should back him in future also as he was according highest priority for their welfare. ââ¬ÅI've come all the way to Melapalayam to participate in the IUML conference because you always love and support the Chief Minister,ââ¬Â Mr. Alagiri noted. The Union Minister released IUML's bi-weekly magazine. Senior leaders of IUML K.M. Khader Mohideen, M. Abdul Rahman spoke. Very Imp point here is that M.K. Alagari is a cabinet minister and release of MUSLIM prisoners is being demanded.Jai Ho congress. Tera ant nikat hai. Islamism - 7 - acharya - 04-01-2010 Muslim scholars recast jihadistsââ¬â¢ favourite fatwa * Scholars refute fatwa Bin Laden uses to justify jihad * Declaration is latest bid to counter militant interpretations of Islam * Speaker says living in diaspora is more conducive to healthy, sincere Muslim living PARIS: Prominent Muslim scholars have recast a famous medieval fatwa on jihad, arguing the religious edict extremists often cite to justify killing cannot be used in a globalised world that respects faith and civil rights. A conference in Mardin in southeastern Turkey declared the fatwa by 14th century scholar Ibn Taymiyya rules out militant violence and the medieval Muslim division of the world into a ââ¬Åhouse of Islamââ¬Â and ââ¬Åhouse of unbeliefââ¬Â no longer applies. Justification: Osama Bin Laden has quoted Ibn Taymiyyaââ¬â¢s ââ¬ÅMardin fatwaââ¬Â repeatedly in his calls for Muslims to overthrow the Saudi monarchy and wage jihad against the United States. Referring to that historic document, the weekend conference said, ââ¬ÅAnyone who seeks support from this fatwa for killing Muslims or non-Muslims has erred in his interpretation.ââ¬Â ââ¬ÅIt is not for a Muslim individual or a Muslim group to announce and declare war or engage in combative jihad ... on their own,ââ¬Â said the declaration issued on Sunday in Arabic and later provided to Reuters in English. Latest bid: The declaration is the latest bid by mainstream scholars to use age-old Muslim texts to refute current-day religious arguments by extremist groups. A leading Pakistani scholar issued a 600-page fatwa against terrorism in London early this month. Another declaration in Dubai this month concerned peace in Somalia. Such fatwas may not convince militants, but could help keep undecided Muslims from supporting them, the scholars say. The Mardin conference gathered 15 leading scholars from countries including Saudi Arabia, Turkey, India, Senegal, Kuwait, Iran, Morocco and Indonesia. Among them were Bosnian Grand Mufti Mustafa Ceric, Sheikh Abdullah bin Bayyah of Mauritania and Yemeni Sheikh Habib Ali al-Jifri. Ibn Taymiyyaââ¬â¢s Mardin fatwa is a classic text for militants who say it allows Muslims to declare other Muslims infidels and wage war on them. The scholars said this view had to be seen in its historic context of medieval Mongol raids on Muslim lands. But the scholars said it was actually about overcoming the old view of a world divided into Muslim and non-Muslim spheres and reinterpreting Islam in changing political situations. Aref Ali Nayed, a Libyan who heads the Dubai theological think-tank Kalam Research and Media, told the conference the great Muslim empires of the past were not a model for a globalised world where borders were increasingly irrelevant. ââ¬ÅWe must not be obsessed with an Islam conceived of only geographically and politically,ââ¬Â he said. ââ¬ËMuslim livingââ¬â¢: ââ¬ÅLiving in the diaspora is often more conducive to healthy and sincere Muslim living. Empires and carved-out ââ¬ËIslamic statesââ¬â¢ often make us complacent.ââ¬Â Nayed said Muslims must also understand that ââ¬Ånot all types of secularisms are anti-religiousââ¬Â. The US has stayed religious despite its separation of church and state, but some ââ¬ÅFrench Revolution-like secularismsââ¬Â were anti-religious. The declaration ended with a call to Muslim scholars for more research to explain the context of medieval fatwas on public issues and show ââ¬Åwhat is hoped to be gained from a sound and correct understanding of their respective legaciesââ¬Â. reuters Islamism - 7 - HareKrishna - 04-02-2010 discrimination against muslims? <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' /> Too many Muslims in prison, Muslims have a disproportionately high representation when it comes to being in prison ââ¬â in many states, twice or thrice as much as their share of the population The deleted data showed that when it came to Muslims in the prison population, Maharashtra, Gujarat and Kerala are the most disproportionate. ââ¬Â¢ In Maharashtra, the percentage of Muslim jail inmates in all categories is way above their share in the population Muslim share in population is 10.6%, share in the total prison inmates is 32.4%. ââ¬Â¢ When it comes to those in prison for less than a year, Muslims contribute 40.6% of all prisoners in Maharashtra. http://www.indianexpress.com/news/too-many-muslims-in-prison-sachar-edits-this-out/17275/ Islamism - 7 - acharya - 04-03-2010 Islamism - 7 - ramana - 04-14-2010 Google Book written in 1921 New World of Islam by Lothrop Stoddard Wiki says he is a racist but that was after WWII <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> He talks about Hindu India too at same time. |