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Islamism - 7 - G.Subramaniam - 04-22-2010

What Drives Islam to be the Religion of War?

By: Daniel Greenfield



“He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist.” Koran 61:9



Why is Islam constantly a source of war, violence and discord? The problem, simply enough, is theological because to its followers the validity of Islam is directly connected to its physical supremacy. As followers of the purported “final revelation” to mankind, Muslims not only have the obligation to conquer and subjugate the rest of the world, their religion is only meaningful to the extent that they can carry on the work begun by Mohammed.



Since Islam derives meaning primarily from physical supremacy, war becomes an act of faith. To believe in Islam, is to have faith that it must and will conquer and subjugate the entire world. And to be a true Muslim, one must feel called to aid in that global conquest, whether it is by providing money and resources to the Jihadists or to be a Jihadist yourself. Because Islam is expressed in physical supremacy, violence against non-Muslims becomes the essence of religion and anything that suggests Islam is not absolutely superior touches on Islamic insecurities as blasphemy.



When Muslims explode into outbursts of violent rage over seemingly petty things like a cartoon or a teddy bear named Mohammed, it is because to them, any loss of face for Islam is the worst kind of blasphemy. Because Islam is a religion of physical supremacy, and anything that challenges that supremacy is a direct attack on their beliefs. What the Ten Commandments are for the Jew, or the resurrection of Jesus for the Christian – is the physical dominance of Islam to the Muslim. It is the basis and fulfillment of his faith.



Therefore by waging war on the infidels, by planting a minaret in one of their cities, by forcing non-Muslims into a submissive position – to the Muslim, this is an act that affirms the truth and power of Islam. By causing infidels to “lose face,” the Muslim fulfills the Koranic verse which promises that Allah had sent Mohammed to make Islam supreme over all religions. By contrast, when Islam “loses face,” an act of blasphemy has been committed, which can only be righted religiously by killing the non-Muslims, thereby forcing them to lose face and once again affirming the physical superiority of Islam.



This creates the cycle of violence that the media loves to harp on so much, but it is not the result of Western oppression – it is the result of Muslims feeling oppressed if they are not on top. When your belief system explicitly proclaims its wille zur macht, its Will to Power, the idea of multiculturalism and co-existence becomes a joke. To co-exist with non-Muslims is itself blasphemous for a Muslim, which proclaims “Do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends” (Koran 5:51) and whose final command was to ethnically cleanse the Jews and Christians of the Arabian Peninsula. Islam does not co-exist, for its followers its truth can only be found in conquering non-Muslims.



Whereas most religions can accept being in the inferior position because of their fundamental faith in the spiritual rather than the material, Islam has little to it but the material. Even its paradise exists in the form of the sort of physical pleasures that its followers crave: fancy robes, exquisite banquets, golden couches, and of course that famed appeal to the dedicated Jihadist, “curvaceous virgins… and an overflowing cup” (Koran 78:33-34). Islamic Heaven is essentially a grossly exaggerated version of the kind of loot that Mohammed’s followers expected to find by following him in the first place – gold, jewels, silk, spices and young girls.


Islamism - 7 - G.Subramaniam - 04-23-2010

Excerpts from Travels of Marco Polo -



For example, he hails the Brahmins of India as being "most honorable," possessing a "hatred for cheating or of taking the goods of other persons. They are likewise remarkable for the virtue of being satisfied with the possession of one wife (p.298)." He refers to one Muslim leader as governing "with justice" (p.317) and another who "showed himself [to be] a very good lord, and made himself beloved by everybody (p.332)."



That said, Polo clearly had no problem being blunt about Islam (political correctness being nonexistent in the Middle Ages). Whereas he praised the Brahmins for their "hatred for cheating or of taking the goods of other persons," regarding the Muslims of Tauris, (modern day Iraq), he wrote:



According to their doctrine, whatever is stolen or plundered from others of a different faith, is properly taken, and the theft is no crime; whilst those who suffer death or injury by the hands of Christians, are considered as martyrs. If, therefore, they were not prohibited and restrained by the powers who now govern them, they would commit many outrages. These principles are common to all Saracens (p.63).


Islamism - 7 - HareKrishna - 04-29-2010

christo-islamic friendship

The Muslims anger was spurred on by rumours that the leaders of the foundation wanted to construct a chapel. The rumours were groundless, but were enough to ignite minds and incite the crowd.

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http://www.asianews.it/news-en/West-Java,-thousands-of-Islamic-extremists-attack-a-Christian-center-18256.html


Islamism - 7 - G.Subramaniam - 05-05-2010

http://frontpagemag.com/2010/05/05/among-criminal-muslims/



Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Nicolai Sennels, a Danish psychologist who worked for several years with young criminal Muslims in a Copenhagen prison. He is the author of Among Criminal Muslims. A Psychologist’s Experience from the Copenhagen Municipality. The book will be out in English later this year. He can be contact at: nicolaisennels@gmail.com.



I had no idea that seven out of ten teenagers in the average Danish youth prisons have a Muslim background.



About two thirds of all teenagers accused for criminal actions in Copenhagen have a Muslim background.



FP: Well it becomes pretty obvious why Muslims cannot integrate into our Western society. Crystallize the reasons for us.



Sennels: My experience is that you need three things to be able to integrate. You need to want it, you need to be allowed and you need to have the surplus. Very few Muslim immigrants fulfil these three criteria.



A survey in Denmark showed that only 14 percent of the Muslims living here can identify themselves as being Danish and democratic minded. My experience from my Muslim clients is that they do not see their Muslim identity as compatible with leading a Western life style.



For these reasons I am completely convinced that Muslim integration will never happen to the necessary extent.



FP: What is your view of the future of Europe in terms of the skyrocketing Muslim population?



Sennels: We are in the historical embarrassing situation that we have invited millions of people to our continent that do not want to integrate and are also not able to. Since the integration of Muslims will never happen – a fact I think that has already been proven years ago – we will end up with a significant part of our population that are actively working to Islamize our societies. There exist both Muslims and non-Muslims that see this Islamization as Islamic jihad –



As Muslim immigrants push for Islamization and the original Europeans increasingly feel being exploited and threatened by growing and still more violent Muslim communities, a continent wide civil war might become unavoidable.



My guess is we will see more dead police men and kidnappings as a mean to negotiate the release of imprisoned Muslim religious or gang leaders, terror bombs, economical and practical support from Muslim countries to Muslim communities here in the West. Economic and police resources are already being drained by the many consequences of Muslim immigration and the need for profound reforming of our welfare system and for involving the army is inevitable in the long run. The feeling of safety and social coherence is already long gone in many parts in hundreds of European cities as a result of Muslims’ antisocial behaviour and enmity towards non-Muslims.



As I see it, the greatest danger is that the common European will fall into strong negative feelings and that the population and our authorities will feel pressed to compromise our own humanistic values in order to overcome the catastrophe



It’s all pretty depressing what political correctness and the Left has achieved in engendering and overseeing this Muslim infiltration of our society. The Left wanted to destroy its host society and it shrewdly figured out how to do so through the weapon of “multiculturalism.”



Well Jamie, first let me stress that our “surrender” so to speak would not be enough. Only mass conversion would satisfy the rules of the Quran and its preachers.



Muslim countries are definitely less peaceful and morality concerning free speech, human rights and respect for human life is clearly less existent under Islamic rule than anywhere else.



Besides my suggestions mentioned above, the Western world has to put a complete halt to Muslim immigration and non-Western immigrants who did not already receive a citizenship. They should either fulfil a long row of criteria concerning integration or leave the country. Permanent citizenships to Muslim refugees should not be possible.


Islamism - 7 - HareKrishna - 05-06-2010

Documentary tells the story of the Third Jihad

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/289593


Islamism - 7 - HareKrishna - 05-06-2010

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Mohamad destroing idols.These look like hindu idols



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Islamism - 7 - HareKrishna - 05-15-2010

Based upon a book called The Nabataean Agriculture which Maimonides translated, Maimonides' Guide for the Perplexed describes the Gnostic Sabians in quite some detail. They were questioned by Caliph al-Ma'mun of Baghdad in 830 CE, according to Abu Yusuf Absha' al-Qadi, about what protected religion they belonged to.



Not being Muslim, Christian, Jewish or Magian, the caliph told them they were infidels and would have to become Muslims or adherents of one of the other religions recognized by the Qur'an by the time he returned from his campaign against the Byzantines or he would KILL them.



The Harranians consulted with a lawyer who suggested that they find their answer in the Qur'an II.59 which made it clear that Sabians were tolerated. It was unknown what was intended by Sabian and so they took the name.



These newly-dubbed Harranian Sabians acknowledged Hermes Trismegistus as their prophet and the Corpus Hermeticum as their sacred text, being a group of Hermeticists. Validation of Hermes as a prophet comes from his identification as Idris (i.e. Enoch) in the Qur'an (19.57 and 21.85).



The Harranian Sabians played a vital role in Baghdad and the rest of the Arab world from 856 until about 1050; playing the role of the main source of Greek philosophy and science as well as shaping the intellectual life. The most prominent of the Harranian Sabians was Thabit ibn Qurra.


Islamism - 7 - HareKrishna - 05-15-2010

Tantric collectanea in Tibetan will expand our knowledge of Indo-Tibetan religious culture for a long time to come. As an example, volume of the Rin chen gter mdzod and volume of the Sgrub thabs kun btus contain groups of texts centering around one Dza-bir or Dza-ha-bir. This is certainly the Tibetan rendering of the Arabic name Jabir, referring in particular, as will be discussed below, to Jabir ibn Hayyam, the Islamic alchemist extraordinaire who lived from ca. 721 to 815 A.D.

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According to Sle-lung Rje-drung Bzhad-pa'i-rdo-rje (b. 1697), Jabir was born in Nagarkot in western India as the son of its king and was given the name Manikanatha, but is (in the seventeenth century) "famed as an immortal yogi under the name Mahasiddha Jabir.'' This is apparently the only narative of his life found in Tibetan sources. Evidence from the Tibetan materials studied here shows Jabir to have been primarily a Natha Siddha. This is clear from his name, ending in -nitha, from mentions of Goraksanatha and others(Vajranatha chief among them) in the transmission lineages given in II. below, and from the list of his eight principal disciples. I have otherwise not found Jabir mentioned in Nathist materials.

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According to A-khu-ching Shes-rab-rgya-mtsho (1803--1875), Jabir stands between Padmasambhava and Vajranatha in the transmission of rlung gi bcud len teachings, which Shes-rab-rgya-mtsho describes there as 'famed as the teachings on rlung (the vital wind) according to Jabir" (Dza-bir rlung khrid du grags pa'i rlung bcud len). Rlung gi bcud len (*pranarasayana?), "extracting the essence of the wind", is one of a group of yogic/alchemical techniques aimed at allowing the yogin to live on the essence of the elements (air, fire, water, ether and earth) or of rocks, flowers, etc. These are practiced within the highest (anuttarayoga) tantra cycles in Tibet, the purpose being to lengthen life, enabling practitioners to continue and expand their bodhisattva careers. Jabir's "extraordinary instruction", translated in Part II of this article, is the basic teaching on this sort of rasayana practice in Tibet, and would seem to be the earliest extant work on rlung gi bcud len.

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The very idea of a Buddhist named Jabir is indicative here, but also typical of what is already known about the openness of the Natha system to students of all suasions. As exampled by Matsyendranatha, the tradition's founder, the emphasis was on a complete yogic practice rather than a distinct set of doctrines. His disciple, Goraksanatha, so prominent in the materials here, had at least two "Buddhist" names: Anangavajra and Ramanavajra; according to Purohit Swami, he also had a Muslim name. Goraksanatha also had a disciple, a Siddha, by the name of Ismail.

More speculative and interesting, but approaching a probability, would be a disposition Jabir, as a Muslim, could have had to practice Buddhism. Jabir ibn Hayyam was a Shi'ite and supporter of the Barmakids at the Abbasid court. Khalid ibn Barmak, whose father had been educated in medicine and other sciences in Kashmir, and was a chief advisor to the caliph al-Mansur in the construction of his capital, Madinat al-Salam, has now been described as "a converted Inner Asian Iranian Buddhist Priest". Indeed, the very name of the Barmakids, the court advisors to the Abbasids, comes from the Sanskrit pramukha, "chief", a rifle used, among other things, for hereditary superiors of Buddhist monasteries in Balkh, from whence came this Khalid. His son, Yahya, is listed directly after Jabir ibn Hayyam by Ibn al-Nadim in his list of those "who knew the Art", i.e., alchemy. This information would seem sufficient to demonstrate a tradition combining elements of Islamic and Buddhist practice with esoteric science in Iran. A later result of this would seem to be a certain Manikanatha, born in Nagarkot, practicing alchemy as a Sufi who came to be known to the Tibetans as a Vajrayanist named Jabir.


Islamism - 7 - Guest - 05-19-2010

Link to Everybody-Draw-Mohammed-Day, now banned in Pakistan <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Everybody-Draw-Mohammed-Day/121369914543425



People are very innovative <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' />


Islamism - 7 - ramana - 05-20-2010

Richard W. Bulliet, "The Case for Islamo-Christian Civilization"

Publisher: Columbia University Press | 2004 | ISBN 0231127960 | 198 pages |

Quote:"Though Islamo-Christian civilization may be a neologism, it is a creative key term that this book will make into a household word. Since 9/11 Americans have been subjected to a relentless parade of experts, from missionaries to historians to special interest advocates, all of whom warn about the difference and danger of Islam. Richard Bulliet reveals the flimsiness of their arguments. Against Samuel Huntington's "clash of civilizations" and Bernard Lewis's "What Went Wrong?," Bulliet sees a future in which the screeds of American Islamophobes and the violent dreams of Muslim extremists both are eclipsed by respect and popular following for leaders of tolerant and peaceful conscience. They are the key to our collective future as members of Islamo-Christian civilization." -- Bruce B. Lawrence, Professor of Islamic Studies, Duke University



Islamism - 7 - Bharatvarsh2 - 05-20-2010

Quote:It is my theory that the bulwark of the West rests on a variety of Abrahamic constructs: 1) The Judeo-Christian thought (As Huntington has admitted) 2) Socialism in academic discourse. Both these are deep down at the axiomatic level are very compatible with Islam. This prevents a fundamental doctrinal attack on Islam in the West unless the West drops Abrahamism and returns to pre-Abrahamistic paganism. Thus the west allows this ambivalence about Islam- it is considered the black sheep of the Abrahamic family, but still within the family. And, they are all united in their visceral enemity to polytheism. The only hope for reform in Islam is the west cutting off support for Islam and allowing it to dismantle from within. The Hindus hence need to be beware, but being polytheistic, they typically fail to parse the Abrahamistic thought and often fall prey to its sword arm or its mind games. Indeed, the Hindus need to develop their sword arm vigorously, but cleansing themselves of the mental lensing by Ibrahimiya is equally important. A prominent cleric, Sheik Saleh bin Abdullah al-Humaid, explained that “killing a soul without justification is one of the gravest sins under Islam; it is as bad as polytheism.” Let Hindus be under no delusion!



http://manasataramgini.wordpress.com/2004/07/02/islamism-and-the-west/



Islamism - 7 - Guest - 05-20-2010

[url="http://zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/islamic_mo_full/"]Islamic Depictions of Mohammed in Full [/url]


Islamism - 7 - ramana - 05-21-2010

PDF

Islam in the eyes of the West



I see that among the most extreme Islamists and extreme Christians there is a coming together of goals as seen from their convergence in the Afghan war with Former Soviet union. Now I see a trend in US liberals a convergence with Islam.



What I see in another 100-200 years is a new age Islamo-Christianity that make Muhammed one more prophet in along line of them. The current struggle is to maintain their divergence but eventually they will converge. The long struggle was to gain dominance. Early on Christianity gained dominance in the Mediterranean region but got hijacked by Romnas as an Imperial tool. Then came along Islam for the rest of the people in that region and spread itself in areas which were formerly Christians thrown out of Nicean creed. And spilled over greatly almost into Europe.



With Englightenment and Scientific Revolution, the Christian West gained an upper hand and was able to cause self-collapse of FSU. And then came 9/11 which was another occassion to gain dominance in the Middle East which is the fountain head of Western religious thought and to own the dialog in future. But the defeat/retreat in Iraq and the financial meltdown put paid to that ambition. It will take tiem to sink in and you will see this convergence become more talk of the town.


Islamism - 7 - HareKrishna - 05-22-2010

Mosque burned and desecrated in Belgrade

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Islamism - 7 - HareKrishna - 05-24-2010

20 may ,the day everybody make a caricature of Mohamed

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=110841015612178&v=photos



7000 caricatures ,please contribute;lets make every day a 20 may day


Islamism - 7 - ramana - 05-25-2010

I have a fund question for the fundoos. Is fish an animal? if so then how is it halal to eat it, as its already dead to undergo the halal process? How do they justify fish in the halal category?


Islamism - 7 - Bharatvarsh2 - 05-26-2010

Quote:Maharashtra seeks Facebook ban

CITHARA PAUL

New Delhi, May 25: The Maharashtra government has asked the Centre about the possibility of blocking social networking site Facebook following such a demand from Muslim and Christian organisations.



Muslim and Christian leaders have themselves jointly written to the Prime Minister, Sonia Gandhi and the Union home ministry demanding immediate action against Facebook for displaying “blasphemous” pages.



The Pakistan government, following a Lahore High Court order, has blocked Facebook for inviting its members to post caricatures deemed blasphemous.



Christian groups such as the Catholic Secular Forum (CSF) are upset over various Facebook pages on Jesus Christ and Christianity.



The Maharashtra additional chief secretary (home), Chandra Iyengar, has written to Union home secretary G.K. Pillai requesting a ban on Facebook, if possible.
A copy of the letter has been sent to the Indian Computer Emergency Response Team, a division of the information and technology ministry.



“We want the government to block Facebook for its irresponsible action. If the government does not act promptly, we will be left with no option but to take to the streets,’’ said Sohail Rokadia of the Raza Academy.



The academy, a prominent Mumbai-based Sunni organisation, has taken the matter up jointly with the CSF.



“The CSF believes that blasphemous pages on any religion should be taken off the website. Several pages on Facebook are worse than the pages that are being objected to by Muslims across the world,” said John Dias of the CSF.




“We call upon Facebook to tender an unconditional apology for hurting the religious sentiments of millions of followers of different faiths. Such blasphemous material on the Internet has dangerous law-and-order consequences, particularly in the East. It disturbs peace and harmony in an already communally sensitive situation.”



http://telegraphindia.com/1100526/jsp/nation/story_12488838.jsp



Islamism - 7 - Bharatvarsh2 - 05-30-2010

57 Pakistani Hindus convert to Islam 'under pressure'

Amir Mir / DNAFriday, May 28, 2010 2:22 IST



ISLAMABAD: Over 50 Pakistani Hindus have converted to Islam in the Sialkot district of Punjab within a week (between May 14 and May 19) under pressure from their Muslim employers in a bid to retain their jobs and survive in the Muslim-dominated society.



As many as 35 Hindus converted to Islam on May 14, another 14 on May 17 and eight on May 19, 2010.



All the 57 Hindus who have converted belong to the Pasroor town of Sialkot.



According to some Pakistani electronic media reports, Mangut Ram, a close relative of some of the new converts, who lives in Sialkot, said that these Hindus had to embrace Islam because they were under pressure from their Muslim employers.



He said four Hindu brothers along with their families lived in the village of Nikki Pindi. Mangut Ram said that Hans Raj, Kans Raj, Meena/Kartar and Sardari Lal along with his nephews and sons worked at an eatery in Karachi.



According to Mangut Ram, his co workers often used to speak against Hindus in Karachi where his family worked. “The owner of the shop where I worked said that after a few months of his employing me the sales dropped drastically because people avoided purchasing and eating edibles prepared by Hindus. Many people opposed the large presence of Hindu employees at his shop and my boss felt pressured to change the situation,” he added.



Ram said Sardari Lal and his brother Meena/Kartar had worked at the sweets shops for several years and made a decent living that allowed them to support their families.



He said other Muslims employees of the nearby shops discriminated against them and persecuted them. The shop owner was forced to think about their future at his establishment. “That was when the two brothers and their families decided to embrace Islam in order to keep their jobs and be secure,” he added.



Ram confirmed that 13 family members of Sardari Lal, 12 members of Meena/ Kartar, their nephew Kans Raj’s son Boota Ram along with three adults and several children of these families embraced Islam on May 14, 2010.



He said that Sardari Lal’s older brothers Hans Raj and Kans Raj remained Hindus. Hans Raj too has said that he might consider converting to save his job. He said that life was ‘just easier if one was Muslim’ and he wouldn’t be discriminated against.



Ram said that 14 Hindus of the Tapiala village had embraced Islam on May 17 because they were extremely poor and could not get jobs because no one would employ the large Hindu family.



He said that another relative of his, Parkash, who lived in the village of Seowal, along with his eight family members had embraced Islam in order to save their lands.



“After embracing Islam, Parkash Ram told me that Muslim neighbours had been mistreating him and had forced him to convert,” Mangut Ram said.



http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_57-pakistani-hindus-convert-to-islam-under-pressure_1388695


Islamism - 7 - Bharatvarsh2 - 06-04-2010

Quote:The dangers of Turkey



This is just a brief distraction from our paleontological narratives to which we hope return. It is important for Hindus to observe Turkey. Some time ago in our discussion on Islamic potentates we had mentioned that Turkey sits on a cusp. Many thought that the forward-thinking Kemal Ataturk nearly liberated the Turks after more than a millennium from the clutches of the religion of peace. Some Turks even went as far as thinking that the Mohammedanism had been eradicated in Turkey. The Moslems in India were however ready to fight for the Khilafat (1919-1924 CE). The Osman Sultan Abdul Hamid-II sent a jihadi named Jamaluddin Afghani (a proto-version of the modern Islamic terror organizers) to seek help from the Sunni Moslems of India, who were the remnants of the Mogol empire. The idea of Jamaluddin was to unite Sunni Islam into a pan-Islamic Kilafat that would wage war on the West, i.e. its sister Abrahamism, the religion of love. This ideal of the Kilafat is still deep in the minds of the sub-continental Moslems. A poll conducted in the terrorist state of Pakistan revealed that over 70% of the people wanted a pan-Islamic Kilafat with Shariah. However, many of Jamaluddin’s Indian followers were having more proximal ideas. Their first and foremost concern was Jihad on the Kaffirs. Indeed inspired by the Turkish agents the Moplahs initiated a Jihad in Eranad and Walluvanad where Mohammad Haji raised the shashidhvaja (their lunaphorous banner indicates their lunacy) and declared these areas as part of the Kilafat under the above ghazi. They started a brutal massacre and ethnic cleansing of Hindus (over 100,000) in these regions of the Chera country, chiefly directed at nAyar-s and nambUthiri-s. If one reads the descriptions of these massacres they are mirror image of the Armenian massacres of the Turkish kilafat. The British government was initially clueless about handling the situation. Then they mobilized a Hindu force of World War veterans – the Malabar force and let it loose on the Ghazis. The brave Hindu troops massively retaliated killing up to 5000 Ghazis for the loss of 43 men. This crushed the Islamic Kilafat of the chera country. Some of them were captured and put into goods containers routed to Coimbatore and died of suffocation – a fitting punishment for the murderous Ghazis. However, the survivors were released after prison terms in Coimbatore and found their way back to Kerala where their descendents pose the latest threat to the country.



Turkey’s current prime minister Erdogan received the Faisal prize from the Sultan of the hellhole of Saudi Arabia. This is actually recognition of his work towards the re-Islamization of Turkey. The Turks have in the past few days raised their voice against Israel and have sent a ship to invade Israeli waters in support of the Saudi-backed Hamas. This triangulation should be noticed and filed away. Some would say that the return of Turkey to the Islamic fold is not a big deal for Hindus – it is more a problem for the Europeans (especially if it enters the EU) and the Israelis. I would still say Turkey has potential of becoming an even bigger problem for India than people expect. Let us pause for a moment to think of all the Hindus exterminated in the Moplah rebellion and the activities of Jamaluddin Afghani, which among other things directly contributed to the origin of the terrorist state of Pakistan. The big lesson it teaches is that even if a nation were to roll back the lunacy of the shashidhvaja-s to the degree Kemal Ataturk did, it can make a come back. In light of this India is destined to face a second partition or a repeat of the Moplah lunacy – let us not forget that the fake mahAtma, the muNDaka, and his favored Kangress party supported the Kilafat movement. Today the Italian plant and her bald Sikh protégé do the same. Then the British poet Wilfrid Blunt admired Jamaluddin Afghani, today the mlechChAdipati bans a Dutch politician from entering England for talking the truth about the shashidhvaja-s.



http://manasataramgini.wordpress.com/2010/05/31/the-dangers-of-turkey/



Islamism - 7 - Husky - 06-04-2010

About this line:

Quote:The big lesson it teaches is that even if a nation were to roll back the lunacy of the shashidhvaja-s to the degree Kemal Ataturk did, it can make a come back.

It's the same with christomania.

Until these diseases are actually dead, they will keep reviving from the seemingly 'dying' embers, only to burst into full flame. To destroy more and more for their insatiable bloodlust.



No mere rollback will help anything: secularisation helps nothing. It creates an empty space for the remaining weeds to regrow into. Given time.

Replacement by proper reversion - including instilling proper understanding of the evils of christoislamicommunism (i.e. immunity) - is the only way forward for the world. There is no choice here. The world needs to destroy christoislamania once and for all - but who knows how. The 'alternative' is to be painfully pounded to dust by it. As others were before.

Christoislamania is the giant-killer. It has brought down that which had existed a very long time and would have lasted long still otherwise. Yet christoislamania is always underestimated. Always protected. Always allowed to remain, re-cooperate, regrow. People are forgetful and so imagine one can now live with it. But one can only die by it.





Anatolia ought to return to Hellenismos. There is that tendency in some of them. But what could come of the sapling now the soil is turning hostile and the weeds are to return in force.



Worldwide, heathens have no armies anymore. The world boasts only nations and subnations which have ready red jihadi crusaders.



No sword. No shield. No brain. No brawn. No hope.

Much of this is self-inflicted. Heathens don't learn.

There is only one weapon that remains. But Hindus can't even wield it. Useless.