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The Real Indian IQ - G.Subramaniam - 01-26-2012
135 IQ, DC
Rao, D = SIB
Rajaram, A = SIB
Bhatnagar, K = NIB
Dhara, S = NIB
Krishanmurthy, N = SIB
Ramaswamy, M = SIB
Bal, R = SIB
Kaul, R = NIB kashmiri
Srinivasa, V = SIB
Verghese, J = Syrian Xtia
Total = 10
SIB = 6
NIB = 3
Syrian Xtian = 1
The Real Indian IQ - G.Subramaniam - 01-26-2012
When I started the thread, I thought the 81 IQ was false,
But, as I start looking at hard data, from National Merit list of 135 IQ,
The hard data is very depressing
It is very obvious, that
1) the Han are beating us by a factor of 3. The only castes that keep up with Han elite and Jews are SIB and Punjabi Khatri and Jain.
2) Only a handful of castes show up on this list. 80% of the NRI population is from castes that barely show up on these lists
And most of the NRI awards are from the same handful of castes.
3) Brain drain of castes deeply affected by Quota is deeply screwing India in the long term.
The late Shiva Subramanya, ran Star Wars defence for USA, If he had not been screwed by quota, he could have done same in India
4) The average long term IQ of India is barely above 90, The caribbean Indian Y-DNA H1, NI-OBC, which is 50% of India. never shows up in these lists. The caribbean Indians are from Bihar OBC. In the Bihar Super 30 coaching which gets them into IIT, what is not well explained is that to get these 30, they have to screen 30k or only 1 in 1000 makes it or 3 SD gap
5) There are 50 non-brahmin Tamil Sangams in North America, and despite these lakhs, only a handful of them show up in these lists. In the USA, they cant fiddle with quota as in TN
6) The highest IQ dravidian caste is Reddy, they handily beat Syrian xtian, Tamil Velala, and Chetti bania
7 ) NIB is roughly at NI bania generic
8 ) North West Indian landlord castes, R1A such as Patel and Jat are at Reddy landlord levels. The problem in SI, is that except for SIB, there is none above Reddy. SI bania scores below Reddy
9) Among SIB, Maharashtrian brahmins ( ending in kar ) are minimal. Telegu brahmins score as often as Tambrams
10) Bengalis are grossly over-rated, Bengali Brahmins and Kayasths score only slightly above generic NIB and NI-kayasth. Bengalis score below SIB, Khatri, Jain, Sindhi
The Real Indian IQ - G.Subramaniam - 01-26-2012
Pennsylvania, 135 IQ
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Biswas, B = NI kayastha bengali
Shankar, S = SIB
Reddy, S = Reddy
Nataraj, K = SIB
Agarwal, V = NI bania
Gulrajani, I = NI bania Sindhi
Vaddempudi, R = SIB
Balaji, B = SIB
Pughazhendi, A = Tamil Velala
Padgaonkar, S = SIB
Punati, V = SIB
Bhamidpati, D = SIB
Bhamidpati, K = SIB
Penugonda, A = SIB
Suganthan, P = SIB
Iyengar, A = SIB
Dighe, S = SIB
Nimgaonkar, V = SIB
Narayan, A = SIB
Rajawat, A = NI rajput
Viswanathan, V = SIB
Patel, S = Patel
Shekhar, N = SIB
Masireddy, S = Reddy
The Real Indian IQ - G.Subramaniam - 01-26-2012
In above post,
Total = 24
SIB = 16
NI bania = 2
Reddy = 2
NI Kayastha bengali = 1
TN velala = 1
The Real Indian IQ - G.Subramaniam - 01-26-2012
Illinois 135 IQ
Gupta, S = NI bania
Karan, A = NI kayastha oriya
Kumar, V = SIB
Kumar, P = SIB
Maheshwari, R = NI bania
Sheth, U = NI bania
Singh, N = Jat Sikh
Tolapa, A = SIB
Sriram, R = SIB
Sadhana, A = NI bania Sindhi
Doshi, A = NIB bengali
Patel, A = Patel
Raju, S = SI rajput Telegu
Sudhakar, S = SIB
Sreedhar, H = SIB
Kotadia, S = NI bania Sindhi
Agnihotri, J = NIB
Dharmavaram, G = SIB
Gupta, R = NI bania
Kasuganti, S = SIB
Maheshwari, N = NI bania
Meduri, A = SIB
Reddy, A = Reddy
Kulkarni, K = SIB
Bhatia, A = NI bania Khatri
Bavishi, A = SIB
Balasubramania, S = SIB
Pasupathy, A = SIB
Sankar, A = SIB
Chopra, A = NI bania Khatri
Datla, S = SI rajput Telegu
Rai, A = SI bania bunt
Sailesh, A = SIB
Saxena, P = NI kayastha
Venkatesan, N = SIB
Singam, V = Tamil Velala Jaffna
Dutta, N = NI bengali baidya
Kumar, C = SIB
Rastogi, R = NI bania
Vaidya, S = NIB bengali
The Real Indian IQ - G.Subramaniam - 01-26-2012
In above, total = 40
SIB = 16
NIB = 3
NI bania = 10
The Real Indian IQ - G.Subramaniam - 01-26-2012
135 IQ Delaware
Siva, K = SIB
The Real Indian IQ - G.Subramaniam - 01-26-2012
135 IQ Wisconsin
Patel, K = Patel
Shreekumar, A = SIB
Trivedi, A = NIB
Gunasekaran, S = Tamil Velala
Kalluri, P = SIB
Ramakrishnan, V = SIB
Pathak, R = NIB guj
Ramnarayan, N = NIB bhumihar
Nair, N = Nair
Nagarajan, A = SIB
The Real Indian IQ - G.Subramaniam - 01-26-2012
135 IQ Michigan
Lakshamanan, N = SIB
Narayan, S = SIB
Nallani, A = NI bania Sindhi
Shah, V = NI bania guj
Acharya, J = SIB
Kandadia, A = NI bania Sindhi
Maripudi, S = SIB
Jena, S = NIB Oriya
Gaur, M = NIB
Kumar, D = SIB
Mahajan, D = SIB
Mukundan, A = SIB
Patankar, H = SIB
Rajachudamani, S = SIB
Seetharaman, Y = SIB
Sriranga, P = SIB
Sulibhavi, A = SIB
Suresh, R = SIB
Rao, N = SIB
Zaveri, R = NI bania Jain
Rathi, M = NI bania
Chintalapuri, S = SIB
Padmanabhan, S = SIB
Panyam, V = SIB
Pandya, Y = NIB guj
Gollapudi, S = SIB
Suryadevara, R = SIB
Inturi, S = SIB
Chavali, N = SIB
Mukerji, A = NIB bengali
Prasad, V = SIB
Arakali, S = SIB
Bokil, N = SIB
Chandra, S = SIB
Devireddy, S = Reddy
Gudipudi, R = SIB
Krishna, D = SIB
Purekar, H = SIB
Singhal, D = NI bania
The Real Indian IQ - G.Subramaniam - 01-26-2012
In above, total = 40
SIB = 28
The Real Indian IQ - G.Subramaniam - 01-27-2012
Most NRI have the opinions that we are a high IQ group
The data from NY demolishes that
There are 969 on the lists, hundreds of jews and Han
and ONLY 27 Indians
about 3%
And 17 of that 27 is the familiar brahmin-NI bania combo
Keep in mind that NY has lakhs of carib Indians, DNA-H1, who are 50% of India and none are on that list
Change the caste mix of the diaspora, and the results are drastically different
The Real Indian IQ - G.Subramaniam - 01-27-2012
https://mathcounts.org/Page.aspx?pid=1872
Has mathcounts winners list for 2011
Total = 56 finalists
Han = 34
Jews = 4
Indians = 9 ( brahmin NI-bania combo )
Euro = 9
#3 = SIB
#9 = SIB
#10 = SIB
#18 = SIB
#26 = NI bania Sindhi
#30 = NI bania
#33 = SIB
#45 = NIB bengali
#53 = NIB
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70% of the Indian pop is quota candidates, and none of them can match the Han
The Real Indian IQ - G.Subramaniam - 01-28-2012
What is the average IQ of the caribbean Indians, in NY
Is it 85, same as African American with much better family values, perhaps it is 90, Hispanic IQ, with much better family values
They seem to make more money than whites, due to cab driving and 7-11 stores
The Average Indian IQ = = Caribbean Indian IQ
The Real Indian IQ - G.Subramaniam - 01-28-2012
135 IQ Maryland
Sriram, S = SIB
Agarwal, S = NI bania generic
Kumar, T = SIB
Krishnan, M = SIB
Venkataram, P = SIB
Chellapa, D = SI rajput, coorgi
Mittal, U = NI bania jain
Puttagunta, R = SIB
The Real Indian IQ - G.Subramaniam - 01-28-2012
135 IQ Washington State
Shankara, N = SIB
Mehta, A = NIB guj
Saha, P = NI bania bengali
Chepuri, S = SIB
Deo, I = NIB bengali
Paramesh, R = SIB
The Real Indian IQ - G.Subramaniam - 01-29-2012
https://mathcounts.org/Document.Doc?id=520
2010 Mathcounts Finalists
56 Finalists, of which 39 = Han
#2 SIB
#20 SIB
#21 SIB
#38 NI bania Sindhi
#41 SIB
The Real Indian IQ - G.Subramaniam - 01-29-2012
http://maa.org/news/usamo2011/winners.html
12 finalists for US math olympiad team - 2011
8 = Han
1 = SIB
1 = Jew
2 = Euro
The Real Indian IQ - G.Subramaniam - 01-29-2012
http://www.aapt.org/physicsteam/2011/pr20110531.cfm
5 member, 2011 US physics olympiad team
3 Han
1 SIB
1 Jew
The Real Indian IQ - G.Subramaniam - 01-29-2012
California STAR scores. 7th grade from elite districts
Cupertino, English, Math
White = 408, 404
Korean = 418. 426
Chinese = 441, 450
Indian = 439, 459
Vietnamese = 404, 398
Japanese = 380, 409
Black = 356, 351
Hispanic = 358, 341
Filipino = 405, 412
Palo Alto, English, Math
White = 420, 435
Korean = 446, 488
Chinese = 446, 501
Indian = 450, 494
Japanese = 433, 468
Black = 338, 332
Hispanic = 358, 359
Filipino =
Saratoga, English, Math
White = 423, 432
Chinese = 455, 497
Indian = 461, 495
The good news and bad news
At the elite levels, the highest ranked Hindus can keep up with the Hans, the bad news is, 70% of the Indian pop, which is absent in these districts cant
To look at the overall state of California,
CA, english, math
White = 384, 375
Korean = 412, 426
Chinese = 416, 434
Indian = 406, 410
Vietnamese = 393, 406
Japanese = 401, 413
Black = 340, 328
Hispanic = 342, 340
Filipino = 384, 379
At the state level, the Average Indian, which includes a lot of non-elite IQ mid-level castes, cant keep up with the Han
And California Indians are definitely not from the bottom 50% like Caribbean Indians and SC-ST
When the Nishad component, 50% is added, Indian performance will drop further
The Real Indian IQ - ashish - 01-30-2012
[quote name='G.Subramaniam' date='21 January 2012 - 02:07 PM' timestamp='1327183190' post='114279']
The Sri Lankan civil war started due to Sinhalese wanting quotas against the Tamils. And almost no SIB in Sri Lanka
In the above lists, except for SIB, just a handful of tamils made it,
Which means Sinhalese IQ must be much much lower than Tamil IQ, perhaps almost at black levels
Thats due to enstupidation of buddhist societies, due to celibacy of monks ( the higher IQ segment )
[/quote]
But Sri Lanka is at least twice as prosperous as Tamil Nadu. Is that because -
1. Tamils in Sri Lanka are more Christian, therefore more modern or
2. Indian TN is paying a heavy price due to India's federal structure where most of their wealth is being sent to low IQ populations
?