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Indian Missile News And Discussion - Arun_S - 01-25-2010 [url="http://www.dnaindia.com/bangalore/report_ir-chief-marshal-pv-naik-wants-missiles-to-destroy-enemy-satellites_1338174"]Air Chief Marshal PV Naik wants missiles to destroy enemy satellites[/url] Quote: Bhargavi Kerur / DNA Saturday, January 23, 2010 Indian Missile News And Discussion - Arun_S - 01-29-2010 Indian submarine launched Agni-3SL missile is expected to have similar capabelity as this French missile. This news of French test-firing their latest long range M15 missile from submarine is a milestone, in modern warfare. Note that this type of small missile with long legs is only possible because its MIRV payload yield of ~150 kT weapon has small mass; I.e. proven lightweight Thermo Nuclear warhead. [url="http://www.spacewar.com/reports/France_test-fires_submarine-launched_missile_999.html"] France test-fires submarine-launched missile[/url] Quote:Paris (AFP) Jan 27, 2010 Indian Missile News And Discussion - Arun_S - 02-02-2010 [url="http://expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=China-specific+Agni+III+to+be+tested&artid=OfkwVYheUSQ=&SectionID=mvKkT3vj5ZA=&MainSectionID=fyV9T2jIa4A=&SectionName=nUFeEOBkuKw=&SEO="]China-specific Agni III to be tested[/url] Quote:By Hemant Kumar Rout ===================================================================================== [url="http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/subsection.aspx?sectionid=b7ziAYMenjw=&MainSectionID=b7ziAYMenjw=&SectionName=pWehHe7IsSU=&show=2"]Russia's NSA visits BrahMos missile complex[/url] [url="http://www.expressbuzz.com/"]Expressbuzz[/url] Tuesday, February 02, 2010 NEW DELHI: Visiting Russian security chief Nikolai Patrushev Tuesday expressed satisfaction at the progress in manufacturing the BrahMos supersonic cruise missile, saying it was a "bright illustration" of the success Indian and Russian scientists had achieved in the joint venture."The BrahMos joint venture is a bright illustration of successful work of Russian and Indian scientists and designers. It is based on highest trust and respect. I wish great successes in future ventures in further strengthening of Russia-India friendship," Patrushev said after visiting the BrahMos complex here.He was accompanied by a high-power delegation that included Russian ambassador to India Alexander Kadakin."BrahMos Aerospace chief Dr. A.S. Pillai informed about the progress made by the joint venture in the last 10 years and the possible areas for future collaborations," an official of BrahMos Aerospace said.Patrushev, who arrived Monday on a two-day visit, has met with his Indian counterpart Shivshankar Menon to discuss cooperation between the two countries' security services.He also called on Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and discussed steps to consolidate nuclear cooperation in the wake of the umbrella nuclear accord initialled during the prime minister's trip to Moscow in December last year.Patrushev visit comes ahead of that of Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin in March.The BrahMos missile, which takes its name from the Brahmaputra and Moskva rivers, has a 300-km range and carries a 300-kg conventional warhead. It can achieve speeds of up to 2.8 Mach or nearly three times the speed of sound.Cruise missiles fly at low altitudes and have the ability to evade enemy radars and air-defence systems. They are also easier and cheaper to operate. Each missile system costs nearly Rs.100 million ($2 million) and the BrahMos Aerospace Ltd plans to sell 1,000 of them.The Indian Army has already begun inducting the land-fired version of the BrahMos, with the first battery entering service in June 2007. Each battery is equipped with four mobile launchers mounted on heavy 12�12 Tatra transporters.The army plans to induct three more such batteries.The anti-ship naval version has also been inducted into service with its integration on the destroyer INS Rajput, with two other ships of the same class to be similarly equipped.The missiles will also be mounted on the three 7,000-tonne Kolkata class destroyers currently being constructed at Mumbai's Mazagon docks. Indian Missile News And Discussion - Bharat_2009 - 02-03-2010 [quote name='Arun_S' date='29 January 2010 - 12:59 AM' timestamp='1264706478' post='103757'] Indian submarine launched Agni-3SL missile is expected to have similar capabelity as this French missile. This news of French test-firing their latest long range M15 missile from submarine is a milestone, in modern warfare. Note that this type of small missile with long legs is only possible because its MIRV payload yield of ~150 kT weapon has small mass; I.e. proven lightweight Thermo Nuclear warhead. [url="http://www.spacewar.com/reports/France_test-fires_submarine-launched_missile_999.html"] France test-fires submarine-launched missile[/url] [/quote] Arun_S From your previous posts, I understood that you have reservations about TN warhead credibility Dr. Santhanam said FBF tests worked like a song !! According to your figures for Agni III SLBM 5500 km @ 1400 kg 10,000 km @ 750 kg 18,000 km or above @ 350 kg If we use FBF warheads instead of TN, are we looking at 350 kg FBF warhead which can yield 150 kilotons ?? Even if we use 550 kg FBF warhead, Agni III SLBM can go a long distance !! If we use 350 kg FBF warhead (may be 150 kilotons yield) 5500 km @ 1400 kg (4 x warheads)(takes care of China and Pakistan) 10,000 km @ 750 kg ( 2 x warheads)(Takes care of Europe and Middle east) 15,000 km @ 350 kg to 500 kg ( 1 warhead)( takes care of the US) Do you think Agni V SLBM would have better payload vs range configuration? for instance 15,000 km @ 1000 kg ( 3 FBF warheads) (takes care of the US) Indian Missile News And Discussion - ramana - 02-03-2010 Fourth launch of Agni-III before Sunday T. S. Subramanian Note the truss structure for the F/S and S/S stage structure and all those cavites on the front end. Its not as clean as the AII RVs. The red truncated cone is the payload adapter section. The bump along the side of the F/S and S/S is the electrical cable tray to control and power Thrust vector control the motors. Quote:Intense preparations are under way on the tiny Wheeler Island, off Damra village on the Orissa coast, for the launch of ballistic missile Agni-III before Sunday. The first flight of AIII which had a F/S nozzle exhasut re-entrant or back flow problem should not be counted and treated as tech demonstrator. So its the PAD that is being tested in September as they mention the intercept altitude of 130km. Also note there is K15 improved version being developed. However earlier version Mark I is the version for the Arihant. Until we know what it is not ready to speculate what will be the ultimate payload for Arihant. Indian Missile News And Discussion - Arun_S - 02-04-2010 [quote name='Bharat_2009' date='03 February 2010 - 11:37 AM' timestamp='1265176749' post='103873'] Arun_S From your previous posts, I understood that you have reservations about TN warhead credibility Dr. Santhanam said FBF tests worked like a song !![/quote] When did Santhanam say that? <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':unsure:' /> Quote:According to your figures for Agni III SLBM I have stated my position in articles that I wrote on India Defense Review magazine, as well as on my web pages that I earlier hosted on Bharat-Rakshak (I have quit BR since Oct last, and removed my pages from BR ), as well as my posts on BR discussion forum before I withdrew from BR. Any design by BARC of 350 kg FBF warhead of yield 150 kilotons is not credible (one cant scale that much up from the S1 FBF primary that worked like a charm in Pok-II) ( lacking demonstrated test and as well as lack of instruments, labs and demonstrated people and organizational capability). Such claimed capability will be as empty as Chidambram's boast of 45 kT yield off Pok-II TN- test shot, which was in reality a grand fusion fizzle, and his empty boast of BARC's ability to scale us PoK-II TN fizzle to 200Kt TN. Quote:If we use 350 kg FBF warhead (may be 150 kilotons yield) Agni's range versus payload graph I have earlier published in my articles that I wrote on India Defense Review as well as my web pages that I earlier hosted on Bharat-Rakshak. OTOH imagining light weight- high yield FBF weapons in Indian hands is questionable. As an aside I do not like your idea of naming potential challengers, I suggest to desist from that temptation; it does not serve Indian interest. Quote:Do you think Agni V SLBM would have better payload vs range configuration? Of course addition of a composite case 3rd stage will significantly increase the range versus payload capabelity compared to the 2 stage Agni-III. If you have RockSIM you can figure out yourself what the range could be for 1000 kg payload. Indian Missile News And Discussion - Bharat_2009 - 02-04-2010 [quote name='Arun_S' date='04 February 2010 - 07:21 AM' timestamp='1265247818' post='103890'] When did Santhanam say that? <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':unsure:' /> I have stated my position in articles that I wrote on India Defense Review magazine, as well as on my web pages that I earlier hosted on Bharat-Rakshak (I have quit BR since Oct last, and removed my pages from BR ), as well as my posts on BR discussion forum before I withdrew from BR. Any design by BARC of 350 kg FBF warhead of yield 150 kilotons is not credible (one cant scale that much up from the S1 FBF primary that worked like a charm in Pok-II) ( lacking demonstrated test and as well as lack of instruments, labs and demonstrated people and organizational capability). Such claimed capability will be as empty as Chidambram's boast of 45 kT yield off Pok-II TN- test shot, which was in reality a grand fusion fizzle, and his empty boast of BARC's ability to scale us PoK-II TN fizzle to 200Kt TN. Agni's range versus payload graph I have earlier published in my articles that I wrote on India Defense Review as well as my web pages that I earlier hosted on Bharat-Rakshak. OTOH imagining light weight- high yield FBF weapons in Indian hands is questionable. As an aside I do not like your idea of naming potential challengers, I suggest to desist from that temptation; it does not serve Indian interest. Of course addition of a composite case 3rd stage will significantly increase the range versus payload capabelity compared to the 2 stage Agni-III. If you have RockSIM you can figure out yourself what the range could be for 1000 kg payload. [/quote] Thanks for your inputs on warheads. your articles on strategic missiles were awesome !! Cleared up lot of things !! According to your Shourya pdf article, 550 kg of FBF warhead can yield 150 kilotons !! and one more clarification Agni III (3B) variant with 3 or 4 stages would be called as Agni IV, right ?? I do have some friends working for DRDO. They gave some information about Nirbhay long range cruise missile. Russians have been employed to fix the Turbofan engine problems. Launcher is also getting ready in Pune. We are looking at 4 Nirbhay missiles on each launcher !! Dr. Santhanam was on Headlines today for an interview. The news anchor was blindly saying that every test carried out during Pokhran II failed. Dr Santhanam stopped him and said, it was just TN warhead which needed more testing. He said other tests worked like a song !! May be I assumed too much without getting in to the details !! Indian Missile News And Discussion - emperor - 02-05-2010 [quote name='Bharat_2009' date='04 February 2010 - 01:00 AM' timestamp='1265262778' post='103898'] Thanks for your inputs on warheads. your articles on strategic missiles were awesome !! Cleared up lot of things !! According to your Shourya pdf article, 550 kg of FBF warhead can yield 150 kilotons !! and one more clarification Agni III (3B) variant with 3 or 4 stages would be called as Agni IV, right ?? I do have some friends working for DRDO. They gave some information about Nirbhay long range cruise missile. Russians have been employed to fix the Turbofan engine problems. Launcher is also getting ready in Pune. We are looking at 4 Nirbhay missiles on each launcher !! Dr. Santhanam was on Headlines today for an interview. The news anchor was blindly saying that every test carried out during Pokhran II failed. Dr Santhanam stopped him and said, it was just TN warhead which needed more testing. He said other tests worked like a song !! May be I assumed too much without getting in to the details !! [/quote] I was wondering when Indian turbo fan was already developed why DRDO is seeking russian help? Its good to consolidate as many missiles on a single launcher,since Nirbhay has both tactical and strategic uses. A battery of nirbhay with atleast 6 launchers and 4-6 missiles/launcher is a good long range artillery to strike on strategic targets with a throw weight of no less than 500kg IMHO. Imagine some a regiment with a minimum of 4-5 such batteries deployed either on Indo-paki or in AP.. <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> so far pakis are boasting about their junky imported babur kruise mizzile,when we deploy Nirbhya,the psuchological effect is more than the actual conventional effect As per the reports I had,Nirbhay MKI will have a minimum range of 1200 km and also feather an Air launched version that is suitable for almost all fighters in the IAF inventory. May be the real punch will come from Nirbhay MKII with a strike range of 2500km to be readied by 2015 while MKI is to deployed by 2012. the point is,a kruise missile testing is a hazzle less unlike BM testing,hence prone to faster testing and induction. DRDO rocks after all........ Indian Missile News And Discussion - Arun_S - 02-05-2010 Let the fat lady (Nirbhay) sing !! Indian Missile News And Discussion - emperor - 02-05-2010 [quote name='Arun_S' date='05 February 2010 - 12:43 PM' timestamp='1265391314' post='103932'] Let the fat lady (Nirbhay) sing !! [/quote] It will definitely sing and will dance on the head of porkis and chinks too <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> I will put my money on Nirbhay given the importance in the dark and the capability it holds.I will bet such that,Nirbhay will be the only missile other than Tomahawk to be mass produced in comparative numbers. Who knows? the per weapon cost will be no more than $200,000 and might even come down with huge scale production and make it a viable system to bring your adversary on his knees. Nirbhay MKI is more than enough for pakiland while I will be looking forward for MKII with air launch capability. Arun,can you put your assumptions and calculations of the most probable warhead combinations for a 500kg throw weight? Indian Missile News And Discussion - Bharat_2009 - 02-06-2010 Agni III will be test fired tomorrow ( Sunday, 7th Feb 2010)!! Indian Missile News And Discussion - Guest - 02-07-2010 [url="http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htada/articles/20100205.aspx"]Akash Advances[/url] Quote:February 5, 2010: A year after ordering 16 Akash anti-aircraft missile launchers for the military, India has ordered 750 of the missiles. Each launcher is self propelled, carrying four missiles, costs $2.2 million and will be delivered by early 2012. India plans to buy 3,000 Akash missiles over the next two decades. Indian Missile News And Discussion - Guest - 02-07-2010 Just In Agni-3 successfully test fired Indian Missile News And Discussion - Guest - 02-07-2010 AGNI-III test-fired successfully - T. S. Subramanian Indiaââ¬â¢s longest range nuclear-capable Agni-III was successfully test-fired from the Wheeler Island, off the Orissa coast on Sunday. The more than 3,500-km range home-grown ballistic missile, believed to be most lethal of the weapon systems developed by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) scientists, was test-fired at 10.50 hrs and covered the pre-designated range with 100 per cent accuracy, top officials told The Hindu from Wheeler Island soon after the successful launch. The solid-propelled, two-stage missile can carry nuclear warheads weighing up to 1.5 tonnes. It is 17 metres tall and has a launch weight of 50 tonnes with a two-metre diameter. When contacted, V.K. Saraswat, Scientific Advisor to Defence Minister and Director-General, DRDO, said it was a fantastic launch and a ââ¬Åhat-trick for Agni-III with three successesââ¬Â. The trajectory went perfectly according to plan till the last decimal place, he said. ââ¬ÅIt gave us full range and pinpoint accuracy,ââ¬Â he added. Avinash Chander, Agni-III mission director, called it a ââ¬Åperfect successââ¬Â, stating that all the mission objectives were met. Chander, also the Director of Advanced Systems Laboratory - which designed and developed the Agni-III - said all the events listed in the launch were executed with accuracy and described it as a ââ¬Åthrilling experience". A. Sivathanu Pillai, CEO and MD, BrahMos Aerospace, called the success an ââ¬Åimportant milestone for the country. It will lead to induction of the missileââ¬Â. The success would bring credit to DRDO scientists, he said. W. Selvamurthy, Chief Controller, Life Sciences and Human Resources, DRDO also termed it as an ââ¬Åimportant milestone in developing the country's defence and developing the second strike capability. The flight proved the robustbness of all the systems and softwareââ¬Â. With the third consecutive success of Agni-III, he said ââ¬Åit is now a proven missile. It is a big morale booster for our missile scientists and institutionsââ¬Â, he observed. A top DRDO missile technologist said the mission was a ââ¬Ågood success and the trajectory of the flight was excellent. Everything worked well, including all payload systemsââ¬Â, he added. Even though the missile did not carry a live warhead, its nuclear triggering mechanism worked well. Instead of a nuclear warhead, it carried chemical explosives, the missile technologist added. Indian Missile News And Discussion - Guest - 02-07-2010 Pictures of Agni 3 launch ( via livefist ) http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_o_no4M2xEPY/S25-j8YMDOI/AAAAAAAAJTg/ma9EbajLLFA/s1600-h/DSC_0021-759501.JPG http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_o_no4M2xEPY/S25-kahZFtI/AAAAAAAAJTo/kvllu-axmFk/s1600-h/DSC_0023-760957.JPG http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_o_no4M2xEPY/S25-k0BbPNI/AAAAAAAAJTw/JjrE__SF5aU/s1600-h/DSC_0028-762700.JPG Indian Missile News And Discussion - Bharat_2009 - 02-07-2010 [quote name='Chandragupta' date='05 February 2010 - 10:51 PM' timestamp='1265389980' post='103931'] I was wondering when Indian turbo fan was already developed why DRDO is seeking russian help? Its good to consolidate as many missiles on a single launcher,since Nirbhay has both tactical and strategic uses. A battery of nirbhay with atleast 6 launchers and 4-6 missiles/launcher is a good long range artillery to strike on strategic targets with a throw weight of no less than 500kg IMHO. Imagine some a regiment with a minimum of 4-5 such batteries deployed either on Indo-paki or in AP.. <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> so far pakis are boasting about their junky imported babur kruise mizzile,when we deploy Nirbhya,the psuchological effect is more than the actual conventional effect As per the reports I had,Nirbhay MKI will have a minimum range of 1200 km and also feather an Air launched version that is suitable for almost all fighters in the IAF inventory. May be the real punch will come from Nirbhay MKII with a strike range of 2500km to be readied by 2015 while MKI is to deployed by 2012. the point is,a kruise missile testing is a hazzle less unlike BM testing,hence prone to faster testing and induction. DRDO rocks after all........ [/quote] I think you are talking about Lakshya Target drone HAL PTAE-7 turbojet (indigenous) engine !! Subsonic Cruise missiles are powered by Turbofan engines !! Indian Missile News And Discussion - Guest - 02-07-2010 Agni-3 test successful: missile flies 3500 kilometers The Indian long range missile AGNI3 with a range capability of 3500km is flight tested successfully by DRDO at 10:50 am from the Wheeler Island, in the Bay of Bengal off the coast of Odisha. The AGNI-3 Missile tested for the full range, hit the target with pinpoint accuracy and met all the mission objectives. Two down range ships located near the target have tracked and witnessed the Missile reaching the target accurately. The Marker Pen like AGNI-3 Missile is 17 meters long with 2 metres in diameter. The Missile is a two stage solid propellant system with a pay load capability of 1.5 tons. During the course of flight the Missile reached a peak height of 350 kms and re-entered into the atmosphere successfully tolerating the skin temperatures of nearly 3000 degree Celsius. The missile is equipped with a state of the art computer system, navigated with a most advanced Navigation system and guided with an innovative guidance scheme. The Navigation system used for guidance is first of its kind. Number of Radars and electro optical tracking systems along the coast of Odisha have monitored the path of the Missile and evaluated all the parameters in realtime. The launch is part of the pre-induction trial. Indian Army (the user) has carried out the total launch operations guided by the DRDO scientists. Now the Missile system will be fully inducted into the armed forces. Mission Director Sri Avinash Chander and Project Director Dr V.G. Sekaran have guided and controlled the complete Missile integration and launch activities. Scientific Advisor to Raksha Mantri and Director General, DRDO Dr V.K. Saraswat has over seen the total launch operations. Dr V.K. Saraswat and Sri Avinash Chander congratulated all the Scientists and employees of DRDO and the industry partners Indian Missile News And Discussion - sai_k - 02-07-2010 From Aroor's pic, we can see the stage separation see through mesh. If it is not a transparent material, would it not introduce drag? Indian Missile News And Discussion - Arun_S - 02-07-2010 Congratulations. I was off line much of yesterday and will be away today too to enjoy the news info coming in. Indian Missile News And Discussion - Arun_S - 02-08-2010 [url="http://beta.thehindu.com/news/national/article102608.ece?css=print"]DRDO raises the bar, sets its sights on 5,000-km Agni-V[/url] Quote:T. S. SubramanianY. Mallikarjun The Hindu Scientific Advisor to Defence Minister, V.K. Saraswat. File photo: K. Gajendran With three consecutively successful flights of Agni-III, the missile technologists of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) have raised the bar: they will now busy themselves with realising Agni-V which will have a range of 5,000 km. Quote:[center]Press Information Bureau |