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Indian Missile News And Discussion - Bharat_2009 - 06-16-2011 with range above 5500 km, Agni II is also an ICBM. Government of India did a good job by downplaying missile range through Indian media Funny reports often appear in Indian media like "Agni III is just 3500 km range but with Agni V (5000 km range), India can target as far as Harbin (North east china)" but not beyond that. I feel sorry for people of Harbin. They make good beer !! Indian Missile News And Discussion - Arun_S - 06-16-2011 Qubit: From Shourya's range -payload curve for ballistic flight above, one can see that for Boost Glide profile the range will be what we discussed some time ago. Indian Missile News And Discussion - ravicv - 06-16-2011 [quote name='Arun_S' date='15 June 2011 - 11:04 PM' timestamp='1308207365' post='111958'] Qubit: From Shourya's range -payload curve for ballistic flight above, one can see that for Boost Glide profile the range will be what we discussed some time ago. [/quote] Hon. Webmsater, What you're saying is true. However, for A-3 to have a boost glide profile, it needs to have an A-2 type warhead. This necessitates a redesign rendering a possible increase in the diameter and decrease in the length of the existing A-2 warhead. I recall seeing CFD simulations of just such a boost glide optimized warhead, but I don't really remember where. Does the A-5 have a different solid propellent (higher ISP??) than A-3? If they can pull it off, A-5 will be a good misile. What will stymie it is the abysmal production rate, and of course, RC's "fudge". Indian Missile News And Discussion - Arun_S - 06-17-2011 Quote:I recall seeing CFD simulations of just such a boost glide optimized warhead, but I don't really remember where. Ahhh amnesia <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> Quote:Does the A-5 have a different solid propellent (higher ISP??) than A-3? If they can pull it off, A-5 will be a good misile. No. A3 and A5 fuel ISP is already very good, and a balanced optimum. no ROI for futher improvement because better ISP has other trade-off issues. Quote:What will stymie it is the abysmal production rate, and of course, RC's "fudge". I a told MMS all but stopped BM missile development and testing. Only recently when Chinese have started dancing on Indian heads that the hold is lifted and Shri AK Anthoney wants 4 wimmen to conceive and deliver the baby in 1 month !!! What f*cked up Indian govt ! The Pinocchio nosed RC is nowhere to be booted out and punished for putting India at this serious handicap. Indian Missile News And Discussion - Bharat_2009 - 07-10-2011 India all set to test new short-range tactical missile http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2154015.ece What's up with this new missile? Some kind of MBRL tactical nuclear or non nuclear missile with 150 km range !! Indian Missile News And Discussion - Arun_S - 07-11-2011 Finally a true short range battlefield missile, solid fueled, inexpensive, small (compensated by its hi accuracy) and affordable cost missile. Something that Prithvi-1 never was and at best a stop gap measure that did its job last 20 years, and served as stepping stone to hypersonic glide missile Shourya and Sagarika missile. to achieve low cost yet high accuracy, I think it will use inexpensive flight control system (low cost gryo based) in tandem with RF/optical navigation system to correct errors. Indian Missile News And Discussion - Arun_S - 07-11-2011 duplicate Indian Missile News And Discussion - vasu_ray - 07-11-2011 deleted Indian Missile News And Discussion - Raj Malhotra - 07-17-2011 Somebody raping Chor Gupta on his own site:- Quote:Colonel JitendraVyas said... Indian Missile News And Discussion - ravicv - 07-19-2011 [quote name='Arun_S' date='10 July 2011 - 12:53 PM' timestamp='1310330720' post='112153'] Finally a true short range battlefield missile, solid fueled, inexpensive, small (compensated by its hi accuracy) and affordable cost missile. Something that Prithvi-1 never was and at best a stop gap measure that did its job last 20 years, and served as stepping stone to hypersonic glide missile Shourya and Sagarika missile. to achieve low cost yet high accuracy, I think it will use inexpensive flight control system (low cost gryo based) in tandem with RF/optical navigation system to correct errors. [/quote] Arun, the ring laser gyro developed for the A-3, and its advancements for other delivery vehicles, are very sophisticated pieces of work which can match the best developed anywhere. They aren't some "el cheapo" like those on the NoKo or Pakistani delivery vehicles. I don't recall the sources that led me to this assertion, but they were sufficiently credible for me to remember the gist and state that herein. Of course, if you're talking solely about the Prithvi, which I believe you are, it will indeed use a low cost guidance system. Indian Missile News And Discussion - Arun_S - 07-20-2011 [quote name='qubit' date='19 July 2011 - 08:27 PM' timestamp='1311086941' post='112224'] Arun, the ring laser gyro developed for the A-3, and its advancements for other delivery vehicles, are very sophisticated pieces of work which can match the best developed anywhere. They aren't some "el cheapo" like those on the NoKo or Pakistani delivery vehicles. I don't recall the sources that led me to this assertion, but they were sufficiently credible for me to remember the gist and state that herein. [/quote] What do you think the cost is. And if it is low enough for a next level of rocket guided rocket artillery ? IMHO Prahaar seems a tactical artillery weapon for field commanders. So it will be used in large qty and cost is key issue. Indian Missile News And Discussion - ravicv - 07-20-2011 [quote name='Arun_S' date='19 July 2011 - 03:40 PM' timestamp='1311118351' post='112230'] What do you think the cost is. And if it is low enough for a next level of rocket guided rocket artillery ? IMHO Prahaar seems a tactical artillery weapon for field commanders. So it will be used in large qty and cost is key issue. [/quote] Cost of using a ring laser gyro on the Prahar would be too prohibitive. I like the Prahar because it's probably the first proactive move by DRDO. It seems it can be fired in a salvo, which is great! Well, it fills the gap between the Pinaka and the Prithvi, the latter in any case would not be used because TSP would never know the nature of the warhead and might launch a nuclear strike which will escalate out of control. I do however have a question - how far can Prahar+Pinaka+BrahMos go in offsetting the deficiency in the number of 155 mm guns? Indian Missile News And Discussion - Bharat_2009 - 07-22-2011 I was wondering whether Prahaar is a supersonic or Hypersonic missile. Indian Missile News And Discussion - Arun_S - 07-23-2011 [quote name='Bharat_2009' date='22 July 2011 - 06:36 AM' timestamp='1311296292' post='112241'] I was wondering whether Prahaar is a supersonic or Hypersonic missile. [/quote] Prahaar gross data parameter is not repoted in mainstream media. Only tarmak007 blog reports the following: Quote:[url="http://tarmak007.blogspot.com/"]http://tarmak007.blogspot.com/[/url] Like other Indian missile test reports these numbers indicate it was a non-ballistic flight (depressed ballistic trajectory does not result in that kind of flight time, range and altitude. The missile sees its MaxQ during ascend (given its AAD / ABM pedgree) at 2 MW drag dissipation. The top speed is 4.5 to 5 Mach. Clearly there is no need for payload separation thus its does not have a RV, in essence very similar to Shourya in many aspects of flight and maneuver. rolling to spread the heat, and thus in that configuration gliding is a freebee. This craft is capable of glide. and given the claimed precision it will be used in glide mode, with considerably longer range than the claimed 150Km ballistic range. Even the claimed 150 km range with 35 Km apogee is sub optimal. Lot of data and technology learned from Prithvi and Shourya was applied to used this AAD vehicle as SSM. ------------ Added later ------------ During ballistic decend the velocity is between Mach 2.5 to 3, so the tail fins work well. At such slow speed if flying ballistic trajectory the craft can be taken down by SAM. All the more reason not to fly ballistic trajectory. Indian Missile News And Discussion - Arun_S - 07-23-2011 [url="http://tarmak007.blogspot.com/2011/07/breaking-on-tarmak007-prahaar-packs.html"] Quote:Breaking on Tarmak007: Prahaar packs a punch, hits the target in 195 seconds[/url] Now this 195 second time is compatible with ballistic flight for 150 Km and 35 Km altitude. Indian Missile News And Discussion - Arun_S - 07-23-2011 [url="http://oi51.tinypic.com/2gv4uus.jpgg"]Picture URL[/url] Interesting pic from BDL. 1. Top left pic: is a log aspect ratio stage for one of teh smaller dia missile ( main stage motor of Shourya/Sagarika or AAD) 2. Top right pic: Brahmos mid body containing the ram engine 3. Bottom left: Autoclave 4. Bottom right: Looks like booster of Sagatika Indian Missile News And Discussion - Arun_S - 07-24-2011 Vital stastics on A-V envelop is specified by TSS [url="http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2288105.ece?css=print"]Preparations apace for Agni V launch[/url] Quote:July 23, 2011 23:04 IST | Updated: July 23, 2011 23:04 IST This configuration is matching what I had predicted many years ago and referred to this un-named missile as Agni-3A (where it has 3 petals of MIRV2A kind) and Agni-3B or Agni-IV ( where it has nose cone with MIRV-5 petals and a SUM(Small upper motor). What is interesting is that public pictures and information will not show what is inside the nose cone I.e. If it has a SUM thus a true 4 stage missile, and what is the shape and size of the RV contained inside, much less their weight or type. An old image that was formerly part of my missile section on BR. [url="http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c109/Arun_S/A23_M51_Pontoon_r13d.jpg"]http://th26.photobuc...ontoon_r13d.jpg[/url] [url="http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c109/Arun_S/A23_M51_Pontoon_r13d.jpg"][/url] Indian Missile News And Discussion - Arun_S - 07-27-2011 [url="http://www.samachar.com/Response-to-strike-from-Pakistan-will-be-massive-IAF-chief-lh0oLXgbdbg.html"]Response to strike from Pak will be very heavy: IAF chief[/url] Quote:[url="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/toireporter/author-Rajat-Pandit.cms"]Rajat Pandit[/url], TNN & Agencies | Jul 26, 2011, 02.25PM IST NEW DELHI: Indian Air Force (IAF) chief Air Chief Marshal P V Naik on Tuesday said Pakistan's new tactical nuclear missile or expanding arsenal is of no worry to India. Indian Missile News And Discussion - ramana - 08-03-2011 DRDO TechFocus July 2011 http://drdo.gov.in/drdo/pub/nl/2011/nl_july.pdf See page 10 and the awards pages. Indian Missile News And Discussion - Arun_S - 08-04-2011 [quote name='ramana' date='03 August 2011 - 08:47 PM' timestamp='1312384171' post='112356'] DRDO TechFocus July 2011 [url="http://drdo.gov.in/drdo/pub/nl/2011/nl_july.pdf"]http://drdo.gov.in/d...011/nl_july.pdf[/url] See page 10 and the awards pages. [/quote] Thank you ! Indeed a very significant report. Would like to highlight a few important ones: Quote:Raksha Mantri asks DRDO to focus on 5000 km Range Missile Honââ¬â¢ble Raksha Mantri, Shri AK Antony, addressed the gathering after presenting the DRDO Awards on 03 June 2011. He called upon Defence scientists to deliver the Agni-V missile at the earliest. He said, ââ¬ËDRDO must demonstrate its capability to deliver missiles, which can reach the range of 5000 km [color="#A0522D"]at the earliest.[/color] The Interceptor Missile Development Programme has taken India to an elite club of nations that possess the capability to demonstrate missile defence capability. DRDO should now work towards developing a credible ballistic missile defence for our countryââ¬â¢. Speaking to reporters later Dr VK Saraswat, SA to RM, said that the Agni-V test launch will take place before this year end. Quote:Life Time Achievement Award for 2010 has been conferred on[color="#A0522D"] Air Cmde (Retd) R Gopalaswami, Defence Research and Development Laboratory ( D R D L ) , Hyderabad, for his exceptional c o n t r i b u t i o n s of the highest order in the development of liquid rocket engines for missiles and multi-fold array of technology and management initiatives.[/color] Quote:DRDO: RECENT ACHIEVEMENTS AT A GLANCE |