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"Hindu terror" Eidolon - Guest - 11-16-2008
<b>
VHP to launch campaign to protest Malegaon blast arrests</b>
The Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) on Saturday said it would launch a campaign to counter what it termed as the government's conspiracy against 'sadhus, sadhvis and sena' (mendicants and military) and to express solidarity with those arrested for the Malegaon blast.
VHP joint secretary V. Abdeo said here that besides sit-in and demonstrations across the country, the VHP activists would send SMSes and e-mails abroad too to air solidarity with the people nabbed for their suspected involvement in the Sep 29 Malegaon blast that killed six.
Cautioning the state and the central governments against hurting the sentiments of the monks and the military, Abdeo told mediapersons here that the investigations into the Malegaon blast are nothing but "appeasement of the Muslim community".
On the arrests of Sadhvi Pragnya Singh Thakur, alias 'Purnachetanandagiri', Lt. Col. Prasad S. Purohit and Swami Amritanand alias Sudhakar Dwivedi and others, Abdeo alleged the arrests were "part of a well-thought out campaign to appease the Muslims prior to the elections".
He also accused the Maharashtra Anti-Terrorist Squad (ATS) of going allout to "please" the Congress-led governments at the state and the centre.
Abdeo claimed that Sadhvi Pragnya was picked up from her home Oct 10 but her arrest was shown as Oct 24. Similarly, Shivnarayan Kalsangra was picked up Oct 18 but shown as arrested Oct 24, Ajay Rahirkar was caught Oct 26 and arrested only Nov 3.
He said that after the Sadhvi, the ATS has now trained its guns on Swami Asimananda of Dangs region in Gujarat. "What is his fault? He has only prevented conversion of Hindus," he said.
Abdeo alleged that the accused are being "physically and mentally tortured in custody and the rights due to an accused in custody are not bestowed on them by the ATS".
http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/Pr...41-ef80a0a41303
"Hindu terror" Eidolon - Guest - 11-16-2008
<b>Now, Lalu says Advani, Modi behind blasts</b>
"Hindu terror" Eidolon - Guest - 11-16-2008
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Chor Laloo should be behind bar for ever but hey ho Queen had made him minister.
"Hindu terror" Eidolon - Husky - 11-16-2008
^ See above
X-posting, since this is relevant
<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Nov 15 2008, 10:55 AM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Nov 15 2008, 10:55 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Rs 10 lakh help for Jamia suspects, announces Amar Singh</b>
14 Nov 2008, 1716 hrs IST,IANS
NEW DELHI: The Samajwadi Party has announced that the party will give Rs1 million (10 lakh) to the Jamia Millia Islamia students who were arrested on the charge of being allegedly involved in Sep 13 blasts in Delhi.
Amar Singh, general secretary of the Samajwadi Party, made the announcement on Thursday evening while attending a meeting of Jamia Old Boys Association on the issue of Jamia Nagar shootout.
"We have decided to provide support to Jamia students arrested on the charges of their alleged involvement in the blasts," said Amar Singh.
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/R...how/3713957.cms
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One criminal supports other. Somebody should check Amar Singh direct link with Pakistan terrorsit group including Dawood.
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"Hindu terror" Eidolon - ravish - 11-16-2008
Arrested army officer Shrikant Prasad Purohit sourced over 60kg of RDX during his stint in Jammu and Kashmir and may have provided a part of it for use in explosions in Malegaon and aboard the peace train Samjhauta Express, investigators said in court today.
The revelation came when the Maharashtra anti-terrorist squad (ATS) produced the lieutenant colonel before the Nashik chief judicial magistrate for further remand.
ATS counsel Ajay Misar claimed that a Malegaon blast witness had quoted Purohit as saying he had procured 60kg of RDX during his stint in Jammu and Kashmir in 2006 and that he gave a part of it to a man named Bhagwan.
The ATS, Misar said, suspects that portions of the explosive material may have been used in last yearâs Samjhauta Express blasts and in the September 29 Malegaon explosion.
On February 18, 2007, the peace train between India and Pakistan had been rocked by twin blasts near Panipat in Haryana, killing 68 people.
A team of Haryana railway police is currently in Mumbai to interrogate Purohit.
However, sources in the Forensic Sciences Laboratory at Madhuban in Haryana, which analysed evidence from the Panipat site, said the explosive device was made up of potassium chlorate, carbon and sulphur along with diesel or petrol and magnesium wires. No RDX was used, they added.
Misar claimed Purohit had told the ATS he had thrown the RDX into the Jhelum, but the investigations indicated he had managed to transport the explosive material to his next posting in military intelligence at Deolali in Nashik.
Describing Purohit as one of the four masterminds of the Malegaon explosion that killed five persons, Misar said the ATS had found evidence linking the officer with sadhvi Pragya Singh Thakur and Kanpur-based religious leader Swami Amritanand alias Dayanand Pandey . He said Pandey had introduced Purohit to Malegaon bomb planter Ramji Kalsangra, who is absconding.
The court dismissed applications filed by the defence alleging illegal detention and torture in ATS custody. Purohit has been remanded in police custody till November 18.
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A considerable section of the bloggers are of the view that the entire case is a set up and the investigating agency of the State of Maharastra is engaged in a political game of discrediting some political parties and formation. They are putting up various arguments to justify their strong conviction that no Hindu can cause a Bomb blast or follow the path of terrorism. If at the end these prove to be correct it will indeed be a very welcome development at a time when violence and terrorist action is on the increase all around the globe.
At present the case of involvement of Lt Col Purohit and others in terrorist acts are still under investigation. Some of the accused may even get acquitted at the end of the trial by the competent court. However, it will be extremely childish to think that the entire investigation and arrests are all a frame up. No Civilian outfit in India has the liberty to conduct such mass scale investigation and arrests that also by involving the institution of the Indian Army, if they have absolutely no solid evidence.
India with a One Billion plus population is a Nation which is functioning. Its institutions are functioning and it is not a dead entity nor the rule of jungle prevail in that country. Therefore , ridiculing the entire Government machinery including the investigating agencies, the executive and the judiciary plus the 500+ elected representatives to Parliament can wait till the end of the investigations and also the completion of the judicial process.
"Hindu terror" Eidolon - shamu - 11-16-2008
This is for Ravish to read....
Raman's Terrorism Analysis: Muslim Anger Vs Hindu Anger
If you can't see this much point in the discussion here, I can say that you are just puking what others tell you. I mean there is no internal processing of data that is expected in a brain.
"Hindu terror" Eidolon - ravish - 11-16-2008
I beg to differ with the analysis of Raman.Almost a Billion Hindus cannot be simply misled by a section of the media and establishment.The author's grudge is understandable as he feels grave injustice was bestowed on him by the establishment.He could not reach the top of the organisation where he worked. So he brings out his frustration by writing such absurd articles, and gets mental peace.
"Hindu terror" Eidolon - Guest - 11-16-2008
Billion Hindus are not silent; we are here an example, excluding you. Silent majority doesn't mean they agree, on ground people are angry and frustrated.
Articles are real reflection. We know government press releases are always piece of garbage and media only do Govt talking point.
Do you think Government or Babudom had any credibility in India? Throw some money on them they will sing like a canary.
Whole world calls Indian Government untrust worthy and corrupt.
Country with appointed prime minister and criminals as minister.
Now to keep Mullah Yadav in good humor, Shame of India and its team started linking Hindus to every terrorist attack, who will trust Indian so-called investigation agency who are contradicting each other. All are bunch of fools.
"Hindu terror" Eidolon - Bodhi - 11-16-2008
Let me tell you one more thing. Reaction from the majority Hindus is not that of shame but relief, hearing of this "Hindu terrorism". Like always, obsessed Media has missed the public pulse. More they continue to harp on the Hindu Terrorism, more will be such reaction. Thankfully Hindus are no more supposed to ride on some fictious moral horses. Fine, we are terrorists. Now what next?
"Hindu terror" Eidolon - Guest - 11-17-2008
Ravish,
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The author's grudge is understandable as he feels grave injustice was bestowed on him by the establishment.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What are you talking about? Did you even bother to read his article where he's stated that
<i><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I am proud to have been the first analyst to have drawn attention on October 2,2008, to the fact that the explosions of September 30 at Malegaon and Modasa in Gujarat did not gel with the explosions carried out in other parts of India by the jihadi terrorists. I was the first to have suggested that we should thoroughly investigate the suspected involvement of some Hindus in these blasts in order to gain the trust of the Muslim community and remove the misgivings in their mind about the fairness of the Police. I was the first to have suggested in a TV interview that if the Malegaon investigation warranted a re-visit to some of the past investigations into terrorist strikes in which Muslims were the main targets, the Police should not hesitate to do so.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->He could not reach the top of the organisation where he worked.
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Do you know that Raman's even been called to US Congress/Senate to testify as expert despite his scathing criticism of US handling '93 blasts? He's done well for himself compared to thousands of yes-man babus out there.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--> So he brings out his frustration by writing such absurd articles, and gets mental peace.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Why don't you provide us with some mental peace by answering some absurdity raised my Shri Raman:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Can one think of any instance in the recent history of terrorism in which a terrorist-suspect created evidence against himself or herself by using his or her own vehicle for planting an improvised explosive device (IED)?...
(any answer for this one Ravish)
Very often, the speakers call for strong retaliatory attacks against the terrorist organisations, Pakistan and Bangladesh? Are they to be viewed as instigators of terrorism and are our training institutions to be criticised for holding such discussions?............
(pretty much entire India and all cabinet members can tagged as 'instigators of terrorism', right?)
rom their briefings, it appeared that incendiary devices and not explosive devices were used in the Samjotha Express. That was also the conclusion of many Western experts, including of STRATFOR, the well-known US analysis organisation. If the Delhi police knew at that time that RDX was used, did they try to find out the source of the explosive? If not, why not?.................
on the basis of the leaks from the Mumbai ATS--- is correct, then what the Delhi Police told the public in February,2007, was wrong and vice versa.........
(did Delhi police and STRATFOR police at Samjotha or they now retrofitting evidence to enable some predetermined conclusions?)
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"Hindu terror" Eidolon - ravish - 11-17-2008
The Army is not silent. Indian Express reports;-
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THE Army has been baffled by the ATS statement in a Nashik court that Lt Col Purohit, the serving military intelligence officer who has been arrested for the Malegaon blast, procured 60 kg of RDX in Jammu and Kashmir that could have been used in the Samjhauta and Malegaon blasts.
While the Army will investigate the claims and is looking at Purohit's service record to see whether he had access to the explosives, sources said it would be very difficult for the officer to procure the RDX and transport it out of the state.
In the statement in court, the ATS said Purohit went to Jammu and Kashmir on duty in 2006 while he was posted at Deolali and procured the RDX that he claims to have disposed in the Jhelum river.
The ATS has not yet shared information on Purohit's statement with the Defence Ministry but officers say RDX is an explosive that is not used by the Army and never stored in cantonments.
"RDX in a pure form is not used by the Army. It may be a part of ammunition like shells or grenades but is never stored in that form," a senior Army officer said, adding that a series of checks and balances were in place to ensure that explosives are not taken out of stores.
However, the Army has not ruled out the possibility of Purohit gaining access to RDX seized during anti terror operations even though it says that "all explosives recovered during operations are destroyed on the spot or handed over to the police".
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"Hindu terror" Eidolon - Guest - 11-17-2008
This ATS, Sonia, Babus, media are trying to divert attention from Rane and Raj. None of these jokers had any credibility.
Some are treating these ATS as word of God, look at CBI, how credible they are? <!--emo&
--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->These fools in Indian government don't realize that fake investigations only bring them down.
"Hindu terror" Eidolon - Guest - 11-17-2008
<b>ATS shooting in the dark?</b> <!--emo&
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"Hindu terror" Eidolon - Guest - 11-17-2008
<b>Seers join hands to beat âterrorâ slur</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hindu religious leaders have resolved to launch a nation-wide agitation on the lines of the âAmarnath movementâ to oppose the UPA Governmentâs design to link the majority community to terrorism.
A congregation of hundreds of sadhus and members of the Sangh Parivar on Sunday also decided in Panipat (Haryana) to form a Dharma Raksha Manch (Save-Religion Front) to spearhead this agitation.
âThis front will be a conglomeration of over 10,000 socio-religious organisations within the country. The agitation will be in the hands of apolitical people, as was the case of the agitation over the Amarnath land controversy,â VHP general secretary Praveen Togadia told The Pioneer.
The proposed âmass movementâ would kickstart with hundreds of sadhus and sants staging a demonstration in the national Capital on November 26. Leaders of the Sangh Parivar would then spread out in different parts of the country for building an opinion against the âdefamation campaignâ being run by the Mumbai Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS).
The Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) would remain a behind-the-scenes player since the Sangh leaders do not want to give a âpolitical colourâ to the movement. There were also suggestions to continue this movement up to the next general elections for mobilising public opinion against the UPA Government.
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Good, they should kick out criminal Congress and re-create independent investigation agencies to get back some credibilty.
"Hindu terror" Eidolon - ravish - 11-17-2008
Virenji,
My submission is very simple. Let us wait for the final result before trying to analyze the event even before the completion of the investigation. There is no need to be in the denial mode. We Hindus of India are not incapable of resorting to violence and there may be some persons within our community who may have got involved in these acts. So instead of joining the few political parties in consolidating the denial mode, as if Hindus are so useless that they are incapable to do anything, let us wait and see the end of the investigations and the judicial process.
There are many flaws in the system of our government machinery but their efficiency is not that low as Shri Mudy expects the world to believe. If that would have been the case, India would have long disintegrated. Ranting and ridiculing all the organs of the State in respect of India does not fit into the present situation when India is getting invited to the G-20 meeting .Further praising of India and recounting its achievements may not be digestible to many of the members of the Forum , so I finish my submission here itself.
"Hindu terror" Eidolon - Bodhi - 11-17-2008
<!--QuoteBegin-ravish+Nov 17 2008, 04:51 PM-->QUOTE(ravish @ Nov 17 2008, 04:51 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->system of our <b>government </b>machinery but their <b>efficiency </b>is not that low ... India would have long <b>disintegrated</b>.
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Yeah, to their disappointment, either their efficiency at disintegration was suboptimal, although efforts relentless; or the coveted fruit is not so low-hanging as they estimated.
"Hindu terror" Eidolon - Husky - 11-17-2008
<!--QuoteBegin-ravish+Nov 17 2008, 04:51 PM-->QUOTE(ravish @ Nov 17 2008, 04:51 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->We Hindus of India[right][snapback]90299[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->There is no 'we'.
There are the Hindus. And then there is you.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Said ravish: My submission is very simple. Let us wait for the final result before trying to analyze the event even before the completion of the investigation.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->That's not your submission, ravish. That was mine (and many another Hindu's).
From my post 10:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Ravish, I've asked you once to provide supporting evidence for your opinions. Will have to qualify that, I see: it means that in this case, instead of pasting news reports containing no more than allegations, you post press releases of actual verdicts by the (non-Bannerjee-type) courts/representatives.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->And I repeated it several times, like with "It ain't a terrorist organisation until it is shown to have *committed* terrorism: Indian Express is shooting itself in the foot by racing to predecided conclusions before the verdict is out." Christoislamaniac terrorism is known, evidenced everywhere and in all of its history. But there's no terrorism by Hindus anywhere nor in history except the ones the psecular christoislamicommunistas are trying to manufacture.
But now the twat has the gall to lecture everyone else - the very people who had been telling Ravish to stop jumping to his communistic conclusions and to wait for an untampered verdict - that *we* have to take his "sudden inspirational advice" and wait for the verdict.
Ravish's tactics remind me of both the christomedia and the christo/christoconditioned/christobribed ATS in Maharashtra. Let me 'splain.
<b>Why ravish is like the christomedia:</b>
The christomedia will not provide the sources for its absurd quotes (that regularly get contradicted by facts) against the Hindus accused of alleged Hindoo terrorism, and neither will ravish provide the source for his lame articles. Probably because he knows that IF naturally distrusts christo-owned and christo-funded media like HT, TOI, IE, CNN-IBN, NDTV, Deccan Chronicle, The Chindu, etcetera.
<b>Why ravish is like the ATS of Maharashtra</b> - same behaviour of jumping pleas/swapping arguments when revelations go against intended results:
The ATS of MR does narc tests on the Hindus accused of terrorism since it knows it has <i>No real evidence against them whatsoever</i> and thought that by cheating this way, the ATS could get the confessions the media said it got. But then the media had to admit that the ATS had to admit that there were no confessions. When the ATS still came up empty, it played the Sorest Loser game, saying that Sadhvi must have beaten the narc tests 'because of her Yoga' and Purohit beat the tests 'because of he's a trained army man'.
Ravish behaves in the same way:
(1) When Hindus were accused of raping a nun in Orissa, ravish talked about it as if it had really happened before the thing even went to court. His post discussed the purported event as reality without waiting for any verdict. Or, I should rather say, the rape Non-Event, as even the nun is not willing to go to court on this one apparently, while it seems she does not find any difficulty talking about it over and over again in the media:
Radha Rajan: "And another thing - if the 'raped' nun refuses to return to Orissa, then on what basis has the orissa police arrested 7 persons for her rape? Who told them they were rapists?" (Also relevant, a comment at this page.)
So in the alleged 'rape' case, ravish is already on the anti-Hindu, pro-christo side without bothering to wait for evidence. He auto-assumed Hindus' guilt and auto-assumed the hyper dubious christo nun was telling the truth.
(2) And ravish repeated the same pattern in this manufactured case of "Hindoo Terrorism":
When Hindus had only been arrested on mere motivated allegations - allegations that even back then had no supporting evidence, and after all this 'investigation'/interrogation/torturing still has no supporting evidence - ravish started talking in the 2009 Poll thread about how in the coming elections the "Indian populace" might have to to take "Hindoo terrorism" into account as well:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Another disturbing factor is the possible emergence of Hindu terrorist groups as a direct reaction to the activities of the Islamic terrorists.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Once again, ravish - without waiting for any verdict - was predictably seen considering the libel against Hindus after blindly swallowing the lies fed by the parasitical christomedia in India.
Then, when posts on IF from various news sources (all referenced in this thread) show how
- TOI had to admit in the same article heralding Purohit's confession that the ATS spokesperson said there was no confession
- there was no evidence against Purohit, Upadhyay or Sadhvi - not even anything that could be obtained from dubious narct tests nor from torture (all three and/or their family members talked about how they were tortured by the ATS)
- the army said Purohit couldn't have obtained any of the materials he's accused of having obtained.
- islamania admits, under the narc tests meant to trip Hindus, to have committed the Malegoan and Samjhauta blasts
- since the army said Purohit could never have procured the RDX from the army's supply, and since some islamaniac(s) of SIMI confessed to everything, the ATS (or media) manufactured the story that Purohit must have got it from the SIMI terrorists instead. All while magically getting them to work for him and for Hindutva as well (apparently by duping them into thinking that Hindutva=islam <!--emo&:blink:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo-->; now why didn't I think of that tactic for reconversion before). The reason the ATS needs to tie Purohit to SIMI? Well, no one else in the country would have access to these particular Materials That Go Boom, certainly not in such quantities as they need Purohit to have got his hands on. Only the army or islamaniacs. I'd have been surprised the ATS didn't ask Pukestan to oblige by having them mail Purohit the RDX. But ATS needs to hit two birds with one stone: the twin fictions that "there should be no Indian islami terrorism, and that it must actually be Hindoo Terrorism because the <i>proven</i> Indian islamiterrorists must have been working for Hindoo terrorism. Making it Hindoo-only Terrorism."
^ So after such numerous (by no means complete set of) inconsistencies were revealed in the story spun by the anti-Hindu side, all of a sudden ravish 'remembers' to advise the very same people who first told <i>him</i> to wait for the court's verdict, that "we should wait for a verdict" instead, before we can say that the media, the ATS and the govt is seriously motivated and lying outright.
<b>But actually, No, I don't need to wait for a verdict anymore,</b> ravish. Know why? <b>Because:</b>
(1) Not only has the christogovt got the christomedia and the christo/christo-conditioned/christo-bribed ATS in its pockets, it then pulled a masterstroke and made the Indian army itself a suspect in this case when the army refused to read from the screenplay prepared in advance. Meaning, the viewership is conditioned to instantly disregard army's views ('unobjective') where these contradict the christogovt's line. The christomedia naturally did its prescribed role in achieving this by furthering the story arc of how the Indian army's input is no longer independent but involved and hence biased.
(2) Furthermore, the christogovt has shown how it also has the ability to change members of the judiciary at will to procure the sentences it wants pronounced:
- They got helpful idiot and railways dude Laloo to appoint an illegal committee headed by bribeable Justice Bannerji on the Godhra riots
- <b>Christian body in Orissa moves court for change of judge</b>
http://in.news.yahoo.com/43/20081108/812/t...oves-court.html
- <b>Kerala Christian appointed Chief Justice (CJ) to the Patna (Bihar High Court).</b>
http://vivekajyoti.blogspot.com/2008/11/im...ef-justice.html
With such blatant puppeteering by the christogovt, Shamu could not help wondering "Was the judge deliberately on leave?" after reading the Sify news that
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In an application filed before the chief judicial magistrate's court here, the army official's father-in-law Vilas Dalvi alleged that Purohit's finger was broken during interrogation and that he had injury marks all over his body due to the torture he had to endure.
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The serving army officer [...] is in police custody till November 15.
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The application filed is likely to come up for hearing on November 15 since the judge is presently on leave.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
(3) And the christogovt bypassed the Parliament entirely on the nuke steal, I mean nuke deal. Shows how christoterrorist govt knows how to get away with ignoring the Parliament whenever it needs to.
(4) And like Shamu remarked earlier in this thread, the KKKongress also conveniently appointed a person entirely incapable of acting out of anything but self-interest to the post of Indian president as well. Because Abdul Kalam was just horrendously righteous and would just be too much in the way for the KKKongress's christoterrrorist plans.
There you have it. One ideology practically co-opting or else overriding every body of law and order/governance in India.
<i>Exactly like in modern South Korea.
Exactly like in Ancient Rome.</i>
Christogovt + christomedia = rule by christoterror
One last example of typical <i>ravishism</i>. *Try* following the ravish-logic on this one, it's really funny:
Post 42 in this thread
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Moreover , <b>the Hindus constitute more than 85 % of the Indian population today and it can be safely presumed that almost the same ratio must be there among the journalists of the Print and Electronic media.</b> If despite such a massive presence, the entire media in India stands hijacked by a particular community or political outfit detrimental to the Hindu population of India than it is certainly a terminal case.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Let's forget that ravish' stats on India's Hindu population is wrong ("more than 85%").
The full brightness of his lightbulb really comes through when he argues that
"the Hindus constitute more than 85 % of the Indian population today and it can be <b>safely presumed</b> that almost the same ratio must be there among the journalists of the Print and Electronic media."
Oh then, ravish will not be able to contemplate <b>the fact</b> that next to the govt, the church is the largest owner of land in India. Yet christoterrorists are only 6% in India.
Oh dear. Ravish's brain can't handle that one. It's emitting smoke. Fire extinguisher.
Here, some easier examples, then:
By the same logic, Indians - being 1/6th of the world population must own 1/6th of the world's landmass. Not.
By the same logic, medieval women in christoEurope can be 'safely presumed' to have had a proportional say in politics, society and christoreligion/church - proportional to their presence in the European population of that time. Not.
So then Nazi Germany could not have posed any threat to Europe since the population of non-Germans was greater than Germans. Not.
And the 3% artistocrats in christoterrorised France could not have ruled over the 97% of the non-aristocratic population all the way until the revolt of 1789, since we can 'safely presume' it "must have" been the other way around going by numbers. Not.
Stop presuming ravish. You've been presuming Hindu guilt all along. You've been presuming christian innocence all along.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
"Hindu terror" Eidolon - Husky - 11-17-2008
^ Above two posts for ravish
Looks very much like absurdity in ravish's unreferenced source (post 85):
<!--QuoteBegin-ravish+Nov 16 2008, 02:29 PM-->QUOTE(ravish @ Nov 16 2008, 02:29 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Arrested army officer Shrikant Prasad Purohit sourced over 60kg of RDX during his stint in Jammu and Kashmir and <b>may have</b> provided a part of it for use in explosions in Malegaon and aboard the peace train Samjhauta Express, investigators said in court today.
The revelation came when the Maharashtra anti-terrorist squad (ATS) produced the lieutenant colonel before the Nashik chief judicial magistrate for further remand.
ATS counsel Ajay Misar claimed that a Malegaon blast witness had quoted Purohit as saying he had procured 60kg of RDX during his stint in Jammu and Kashmir in 2006 and that he gave a part of it to a man named Bhagwan.[right][snapback]90238[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->What a miracle! Not only have they found (bribed?) some entity to witness to Purohit's presence at the blast, not only does it <i>also happen to provide</i> the very quote to indict Purohit in the crime with incriminating hearsay 'evidence', but it ALSO gives - in the same testimony - the final crucial piece 'of evidence' for the prosecution: that of <i>how/where</i> Purohit got the stuff necessary for the crime to have been commited at all. So far the christoKKKongressi side had blundered in thinking it would all be really easy if they could just find a random Hindu in the army to pin the materials on. It all seemed like an easy frame-and-convict-em excercise when they came up with it.
But then the army wouldn't cooperate in towing the KKKongress plotline and also, the idea of SIMI's willing help may seem farfetched even to the most desperate believers among the christoislamaniac readership of the christomedia - though they are used to taking things on faith. (Besides SIMI may not take kindly to their proud handiwork being credited to the evil kaffiri Hindoos and may thus spoil ATS' carefully built nonsense plot.)
So now, the prosecution has to resort to plan X: the <b>deus-ex-machina</b>, here in the form of a convenient witness who's been introduced into the story to explain the missing plot elements, or rather, to fill in the gaping plot holes by means of unlikely exposition.
Of course, anyone with half a brain asks: Who is this unnamed witness? What did the narc tests reveal about him/her/it, since the ATS is such a fan of natc tests? What are its credentials, else how do we know it is so reliable? Even then, where's the evidence that this entity was indeed present during the Malegoan blasts, other than its say-so? Isn't it his/her word against Purohit's word? (How much does it usually earn? How much money was in this witness' bank account in 2007 or even Jan 2008 and how much money is in there now? Where did the difference come from?)
<b>ADDED:</b> Skip the following. Turns out DailyPioneer came to this conclusion like hours ahead of me (just clicked on Mudy's link in order to save it). But I did come upon the same conclusion independently. Yay? Clever me; shame I move at <i>snail</i>'s pace.
Wah? From the same unnamed source that ravish posted, it looks like even better questions can be derived from the contradictions between the witness' scripted monologue and things like:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->A team of Haryana railway police is currently in Mumbai to interrogate Purohit.
However, <b>sources in the Forensic Sciences Laboratory at Madhuban in Haryana, which analysed evidence from the Panipat site, said the explosive device was made up of potassium chlorate, carbon and sulphur along with diesel or petrol and magnesium wires. No RDX was used, they added.</b>
Misar claimed Purohit had told the ATS he had thrown the RDX into the Jhelum, but the investigations indicated he had managed to transport the explosive material to his next posting in military intelligence at Deolali in Nashik.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Wait, let me get this straight. Does the above say what I think it says? No, it can't be. Can it? Witness says Purohit got RDX. But forensics say RDX wasn't used.
Isn't this like the police planting a gun on the accused and then being told later by forensics that the gun found could not even be the murder-weapon since the actual bullets used don't belong to the type of gun that was planted? TSssss. (If so, then they'll have to incriminate the gun in some other crime - i.e. KKKongreSS, ATS and prosecution have to foist some other bombing event that did involve RDX on Purohit or they have to somehow tie him to these other materials now.)
Does this now mean even the KKKongreSS' deus-ex-machina failed the plot? Terrible movie all round. Time to ask for money back.
"Hindu terror" Eidolon - Guest - 11-17-2008
<b>Ramdev, Parivar rally against Centre on 'Hindu terror'</b>
"Hindu terror" Eidolon - Guest - 11-17-2008
<b>'Pragya Thakur you march ahead, we're with you'</b>