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Jan Lokpal movement - Guest - 10-08-2011 [quote name='sumishi' date='08 October 2011 - 12:03 PM' timestamp='1318055101' post='113209'] [size="3"][url="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Anna-denies-RSS-support-to-Ramlila-stir/articleshow/10272030.cms"]Anna denies RSS 'support' to Ramlila stir[/url] : TOI, Oct 8, 2011[/size] [/quote] "Debunking the RSS claim, Anna told reporters from his native Ralegaon Siddhi in Maharashtra, "Nobody approached me. Not a single RSS worker met me or approached me. How are they saying this? I don't know." Anna, you are right, you don't know that you are a Congress plant, you don't know that foreigners use you, you don't even know that RSS was your biggest supporter (but for which the crowd at the Maidan would have been the thinnest) and what else you don't know?! Jan Lokpal movement - sumishi - 10-09-2011 [size="3"]^ Great comment! Meanwhile, [url="http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2523121.ece?homepage=true"]Govt. agrees to disclose audio recordings of Lokpal Committee[/url] : The Hindu, October 9, 2011[/size] [indent] Quote: [/indent] Jan Lokpal movement - sumishi - 10-09-2011 [size="3"][url="http://dailypioneer.com/pioneer-news/top-story/11927-anna-above-parliament-can-pressurise-it-kejriwal.html"]Anna above Parliament, can pressurise it: Kejriwal[/url] : The Pioneer, 09 October 2011[/size] Jan Lokpal movement - Husky - 10-10-2011 ^ So where did the dude who started this and many another thread in rapid succession (mostly related to Team Anna RaRa) go? Is it a ... uh what does one call it again, a miracle? I mean, a "mystery"? Or maybe he'll come back soon to indicate that he never really left and is just fine and well ("but the forum was too slow-moving"). Well, ya have to admit it's possible. Jan Lokpal movement - sumishi - 10-11-2011 [size="3"]^ He probably had a shock when reading in IF on the hidden forces that are behind the movement. Frankly, most mainstream-media-hypnotised and propaganda-fed folks, though well-intentioned, are unable to align to such a paradigm shift. [/size] Jan Lokpal movement - sumishi - 10-11-2011 [size="3"][url="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Pass-Lokpal-Bill-urgently-Eminent-citizens/articleshow/10309061.cms"]Pass Lokpal Bill urgently: Eminent citizens[/url] : TOI, Oct 11, 2011 [/size][indent][size="3"] Quote:MUMBAI: Almost 10 months after a group of 14 eminent citizens (G14) created a flutter with an 'Open Letter To Our Leaders' expressing alarm over a "governance deficit in government, business and institutions", it has released another 'Open Letter' supporting the "need for the urgent passage of a well-crafted Lokpal Bill by Parliament", and calling for "urgent action on land, judicial, electoral and police reforms". [/size][/indent] Jan Lokpal movement - sumishi - 10-11-2011 [size="3"]Review of the audio tapes of the proceedings -- [url="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Lokpal-bill-How-Team-Anna-government-representatives-fought-clause-by-clause/articleshow/10308198.cms"]Lokpal bill: How Team Anna, government representatives fought clause-by-clause[/url] : TOI, Oct 11, 2011[/size] Jan Lokpal movement - sumishi - 10-11-2011 [size="3"][url="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Anna-protest-was-a-mask-for-communal-forces-Cong/articleshow/10307301.cms"]Anna protest was a mask for communal forces: Cong[/url] : TOI, Oct 11, 2011 [/size][size="3"]71 comments and counting! Good Read! [/size] [indent][size="3"] Quote:NEW DELHI: Congress said on Monday that the Anna Hazare agitation was just a mask for communal forces. Retaliating to the anti-graft campaigner's call for the ruling party's defeat in the Hisar by-election, the party said it could not understand the reason for Hazare's stance to make it an issue in the poll when the parliamentary standing committee was going full steam to wind up the Lokpal legislation as per the understanding. [/size][/indent] Jan Lokpal movement - sumishi - 10-11-2011 [size="3"][url="http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/article2526973.ece"]Advani disagrees with Team Anna, says Parliament is supreme[/url] : The Hindu, October 11, 2011 [/size][indent][size="3"] Quote:A day before the Jan Chetna Yatra begins, veteran Bharatiya Janata Party leader L.K. Advani made two points: he did not rule himself out of the race to be declared the prime ministerial candidate and his party did not agree with the Anna Hazare team on several issues, including the recent assertion by team member Arvind Kejriwal that Anna was ââ¬Åabove Parliament.ââ¬Â[size="3"][color="#9932cc"][/color][/size][size="3"][color="#9932cc"] }[/color] ... ... ... [/size][/indent] Jan Lokpal movement - ravish - 10-11-2011 For the true functioning of a democracy, we have to accept that a duly elected Parliament is above the general public as far as governance of the country is concerned. One can debate that the people may have the power to recall an elected member or members and in the process forces a mid teerm poll, if the situation so demands. On the contrary, if members of the public are allowed to give directions to the Parliament with regard to functioning of the government , then there will be total chaos and collapse of the administrative machinery. In the present case, certain individuals have started a movement to force the government to take certain measures to contain corruption in public life. There is no denying of the fact that there is today wide spread corruption in almost every sphere of public life in India today. Now how to bring about an improvement in the situation. If the people of India are instigated to rise against the system and force certain measures, it is unlikely to remove corruption .On the contrary , it may lead to total anarchy in the country . To resolve the problem of corruption , a number of serious corrective measures are required to be taken. It needs to be seriously deliberated upon by parliament and necessary remedial measures have to be taken. This task cannot be taken over by the Civil Society alone.There is no harm in important members of the Civil Society interacting with the appropriate committee of parliament and exchanging views on how best the situation can be handled. Unfortunately, none of the main players today is addressing the fundamental problem of corruption. The so called team of Anna Hazare is trying to gain popularity by various moves, while the political parties are trying to counter act such moves. In the process , no real progress is taking place with regard to the real problem i.e. corruption in public life. We have to put a powerful instrument in the hands of the Government to contain corruption. The blue print for such an instrument cannot be drawn up through street agitations and fasts.Anna Hazare will never succeed in his noble endeavour , if his team does not change its course and deal with the matter more seriously. They should immediately stop jumping from one media opportunity to another to gain popular support . It will take them no where in their fight against corruption. Jan Lokpal movement - sumishi - 10-12-2011 [size="3"][url="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Prashant-Bhushan-beaten-up-for-his-Kashmir-comments/articleshow/10327277.cms"]Prashant Bhushan beaten up for his Kashmir comments[/url] : TOI, Oct 12, 2011, 04.41PM IST (The video on the site) [/size][indent][size="3"] Quote:NEW DELHI: Senior Supreme Court advocate and Team Anna member Prashant Bhushan was beaten in his chamber by youth allegedly for his Kashmir comments. [/size] [size="3"] Supreme Court lawyer-activist Prashant Bhushan was roughed up at his chambers here by a youth in full view of TV cameras Wednesday. The youth barged into his chamber and started beating him up, before being overpowered by others present in the room, TV visuals showed. [/size] [size="3"] The two attackers claimed that they were from Sri Ram Sene. The attackers told Times Now that they were provoked by Bhushan's comments on Kashmir. One of the attackers has been arrested by the Police. Bhushan filed an FIR against the attackers. [/size] [size="3"] In an earlier interview, Prashant had reportedly said that the Kashmiri people should be given 'azadi' if they don't want to live with India. He had also reportedly recommended that withdrawl of Indian army from Kashmir. [/size] [/indent] [size="3"]This "azadi" comment of Bhushan, does it say anything about the forces manipulating team Anna, or was it his personal opinion? Or is UPA behind the attack, making the "azadi" comment a scapegoat?[/size] Jan Lokpal movement - ravish - 10-13-2011 Some days ago Shri Prasant Bhushan in a press interview had suggested that the people of Kashmir may decide through a plebiscite what they want. It is the personal view of an individual. The three individuals who bashed him up in his chamber have done much greater harm. When the movement against corruption was receiving full media attention, they have diverted the direction of the TV cameras. Today as a follow up there was attack on Anna supporters outside the Courts. The statement made by Shri Prasant Bhushan had hardly been taken note of by anyone including the media till the time he was attacked by the Bhagat Singh Sena. The attack has been condemned by all major political parties including the BJP. However, the arrest of the culprits and todayââ¬â¢s disturbance gives the impression that certain organisation or individuals are trying to divert media attention from the anti corruption movement started by Shri Anna Hazare. Since all those arrested are or were associated with the BJP at some point of time, naturally the finger will get pointed towards the BJP. Prior to the attack on Shri Prasant Bhusan , an impression was gaining strength in certain political quarters that the movement of Shri Anna Hazare and the activity of certain members of the Civil Society is going to pose a serious challenge to all the existing political parties and may become a threat by the time the next general election takes place. In this backdrop , it is but natural that a strong suspicion arises about the real motive of the disturbance that has been caused by the members of the Bhagat Singh Sena and its associates. Jan Lokpal movement - ravish - 10-13-2011 Some days ago Shri Prasant Bhushan in a press interview had suggested that the people of Kashmir may decide through a plebiscite what they want. It is the personal view of an individual. The three individuals who bashed him up in his chamber have done much greater harm. When the movement against corruption was receiving full media attention, they have diverted the direction of the TV cameras. Today as a follow up there was attack on Anna supporters outside the Courts. The statement made by Shri Prasant Bhushan had hardly been taken note of by anyone including the media till the time he was attacked by the Bhagat Singh Sena. The attack has been condemned by all major political parties including the BJP. However, the arrest of the culprits and todayââ¬â¢s disturbance gives the impression that certain organisation or individuals are trying to divert media attention from the anti corruption movement started by Shri Anna Hazare. Since all those arrested are or were associated with the BJP at some point of time, naturally the finger will get pointed towards the BJP. Prior to the attack on Shri Prasant Bhusan , an impression was gaining strength in certain political quarters that the movement of Shri Anna Hazare and the activity of certain members of the Civil Society is going to pose a serious challenge to all the existing political parties and may become a threat by the time the next general election takes place. In this backdrop , it is but natural that a strong suspicion arises about the real motive of the disturbance that has been caused by the members of the Bhagat Singh Sena and its associates. Jan Lokpal movement - Capt Manoj Singh - 10-14-2011 [quote name='sumishi' date='12 October 2011 - 01:31 PM' timestamp='1318422230' post='113295'] [size="3"][url="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Prashant-Bhushan-beaten-up-for-his-Kashmir-comments/articleshow/10327277.cms"]Prashant Bhushan beaten up for his Kashmir comments[/url] : TOI, Oct 12, 2011, 04.41PM IST (The video on the site) [/size][indent][size="3"][/size] [/indent] [size="3"]This "azadi" comment of Bhushan, does it say anything about the forces manipulating team Anna, or was it his personal opinion? Or is UPA behind the attack, making the "azadi" comment a scapegoat?[/size] [/quote] I am of the opinion that Prashant Bhushan was used as an instrument to vent frustration against Team Anna who is not ready to join forces with either UPA or BJP. Sadly politics has always been the stronghold of conniving individuals. Jan Lokpal movement - sumishi - 10-14-2011 [size="3"]Captain saab, will it be possible to change the title of this thread? From "Congratulations" to something like, for e.g., "Jan Lokpal movement" or the "Anna movement"? For that, you will have go to your first post and click the "edit" button. Once the basic editor opens, click on "Use Full Editor". Thereafter, change the title, and then "Submit Modified Post" [/size] Jan Lokpal movement - Capt Manoj Singh - 10-14-2011 [quote name='sumishi' date='14 October 2011 - 03:55 AM' timestamp='1318560470' post='113328'] [size="3"]Captain saab, will it be possible to change the title of this thread? From "Congratulations" to something like, for e.g., "Jan Lokpal movement" or the "Anna movement"? For that, you will have go to your first post and click the "edit" button. Once the basic editor opens, click on "Use Full Editor". Thereafter, change the title, and then "Submit Modified Post" [/size] [/quote] I have changed the topic heading at your request Sumishi to Jan Lokpal movement. Good Day! Jan Lokpal movement - Guest - 10-14-2011 Why should we not consider these 'seculars' as anti-Hindus, anti-nationals? [url="http://www.youtube.com/sudarshantvchannel#p/a/u/3/Ljy2C2QsVhU"][size="4"]Prashant bhushan ka yaha desh droha nahi to kya ? (Video Part 1)[/size][/url] Jan Lokpal movement - Capt Manoj Singh - 10-14-2011 [quote name='Savithri' date='14 October 2011 - 05:44 PM' timestamp='1318610160' post='113340'] Why should we not consider these 'seculars' as anti-Hindus, anti-nationals? [url="http://www.youtube.com/sudarshantvchannel#p/a/u/3/Ljy2C2QsVhU"][size="4"]Prashant bhushan ka yaha desh droha nahi to kya ? (Video Part 1)[/size][/url] [/quote] Many in India would regard M.K. Gandhi as anti-nationalist as he was so carried away by his belief in non-violence and humanity that he was prepared to go out of the way to appease the muslims even at the cost of partition. The fact remains there are and will be some die hard believers in that theory even in present era, people like Prashant Bushan who would support a similar ideology for the sake of peace. Calling him anti-nationalist or pro-peace would depend on how you view it. M.K. Gandhi is still called 'Mahatama' because he was beyond greed. He fought against apartheid in South Africa just as he did in India for swaraj. I am not comparing the two persons as Gandhi is virtually incomparable but somehow feel probably Prashant Bhushan is motivated and driven in that direction. Nationalism and humanity often do not go hand in hand. Jan Lokpal movement - Guest - 10-15-2011 [url="http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_expel-prashant-bhushan-from-team-ms-bitta-tells-anna_1599118"][size="4"]Expel Prashant Bhushan from team: MS Bitta tells Anna [/size][/url] Jan Lokpal movement - Guest - 10-17-2011 [quote name='ravish' date='14 October 2011 - 12:03 AM' timestamp='1318530323' post='113316'] Some days ago Shri Prasant Bhushan in a press interview had suggested that the people of Kashmir may decide through a plebiscite what they want. It is the personal view of an individual. T....... [/quote] Traitors should be deported to Pakistan. These idiots are on ISI payroll. |