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Indian Missile News And Discussion - Arun_S - 02-10-2010 India ready to testfire 5,000 km range Agni-V within a year [url="http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/India-ready-to-testfire-5000-km-range-Agni-V-within-a-year/articleshow/5557456.cms"]http://economictimes...how/5557456.cms[/url] 10 Feb 2010, 2045 hrs IST, PTI Quote: NEW DELHI: India said it will testfire the over 5,000 km range nuclear-capable Agni-V surface to surface ballistic missile "within a year", So Agni-V will likely be what I have called by the name the Agni-III SL Indian Missile News And Discussion - Menander - 02-10-2010 [quote name='Arun_S' date='10 February 2010 - 02:12 AM' timestamp='1265747674' post='104054'] As Shri Sathish Chandra mentioned long ago, Agni-3 is a very flexible rocket platform that give rise a family of missiles; with varied payload combination and rocket stages that can mixed and matched for various performance configurations. Agni-3TD has validated the base elements of rocketery on which these varients can easily morph. [/quote] Arun, could you please provide the specs (thrust, weight) of the 2 stages of the Agni III missile. Has the figures been released officially ? Oh! I'm Gopal. Indian Missile News And Discussion - Guest - 02-10-2010 The post boost vehicle or the bus indeed seems to be a very complex piece of equipment. It has to know the exact speed of the missile, the orientation along the 3 vectors, the exact location of the missile and the intended impact point of each of the RVs. It then has to align the RVs to the required angle? so that they re-enter the atmosphere with the heat shield directed correctly. Indeed amazing science and engineering! Indian Missile News And Discussion - Arun_S - 02-10-2010 [quote name='Gagan' date='10 February 2010 - 11:16 PM' timestamp='1265823497' post='104086'] The post boost vehicle or the bus indeed seems to be a very complex piece of equipment. It has to know the exact speed of the missile, the orientation along the 3 vectors, the exact location of the missile and the intended impact point of each of the RVs. It then has to align the RVs to the required angle? so that they re-enter the atmosphere with the heat shield directed correctly. Indeed amazing science and engineering! [/quote] PBV Bus info on teh web is 30 year product style to deliver inactive (passive) inertial payload mass to target; OTOH when RV has velocity correction package built in along with guidance and maneuvering, the PBV Bus role changes significantly (greater simplicity). Indian Missile News And Discussion - Menander - 02-10-2010 Agni III launch video [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqkmDUOiFCs&feature=player_embedded"]Agni III launch[/url] Indian Missile News And Discussion - Guest - 02-11-2010 [quote name='Gagan' date='10 February 2010 - 11:16 PM' timestamp='1265823497' post='104086'] The post boost vehicle or the bus indeed seems to be a very complex piece of equipment. It has to know the exact speed of the missile, the orientation along the 3 vectors, the exact location of the missile and the intended impact point of each of the RVs. It then has to align the RVs to the required angle? so that they re-enter the atmosphere with the heat shield directed correctly. Indeed amazing science and engineering! [/quote] Mr. Gagan of BR fame, post-boost vehicle is the re-entry system. PBV deploys the RVs in a very precise (and typically covert) manner, and place whatever countermeasures it might have aboard to obscure the RV from any possible anti-missile system. The vehicles are covered with material to protect them during re-entry through the atmosphere to their targets and are mechanically attached to the deployment module. The attachments are unlatched by gas pressure from an explosive cartridge broken by small, exploding bolts, which free the re-entry vehicles, allowing them to separate from the DM with little disturbance. Each deployed re-entry vehicle follows a ballistic path to its target......... India has to cover some ground on this - hence 5 more years I reckon, and since assumption is mother of all the mess ups - its no good speculating on this whether the process of drawing board to proto type is over with.... Indian Missile News And Discussion - Praveen - 02-11-2010 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqkmDUOiFCs&feature=player_embedded[/media] Agni III launch video inline Indian Missile News And Discussion - Arun_S - 02-11-2010 [quote name='Menander' date='10 February 2010 - 11:53 PM' timestamp='1265825727' post='104088'] Agni III launch video [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqkmDUOiFCs&feature=player_embedded"]Agni III launch[/url] [/quote] Clearly shows the trajectory chosen had a range ~2500 km. If they had also shown teh velocity of teh missile, that would have given away its secret on trajectory and maxium range (for teh unknown payload mass it was carrying). Excellent !! Indian Missile News And Discussion - ramana - 02-11-2010 Evolution of Re-Entry technology Indian Missile News And Discussion - ramana - 02-11-2010 AIII induction was quite fast. Three tests in three years with third one as user trial.The first one was in 2006. Interesting that there are no sqawks from the services unlike in other times. Indicates the urgency and seriousness of the matters. Especially after the G-2 emerging. Indian Missile News And Discussion - emperor - 02-11-2010 [quote name='Menander' date='10 February 2010 - 12:36 PM' timestamp='1265822907' post='104085'] Arun, could you please provide the specs (thrust, weight) of the 2 stages of the Agni III missile. Has the figures been released officially ? Oh! I'm Gopal. [/quote] <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' /> <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' /> <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' /> <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' /> <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' /> R u kidding? No one will release the thrust and payload configurations,...... Otherwise they wont be called as missiles of deterrence,they will be simply called as missiles of pooh pooh. Lets put it this way such that A-III is one of the most reliable nuclear warhead thrower <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> .For a missile to boast of its capability one has to see what kind of features it includes.It can`t be intercepted either in boost phase or during mid-course.Its highly variable thrust vectoring nozzle manuevers the missile out of the threat zone based on the feeds of the on-board sensors.And when the mizzile reaches its terminal phase,the on board defensive measures and decoys along with original warheads make sure that the enemy will be fooled as easily as it can be <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> Do you expect DRDO release the specs of such kind of missile? <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> Indian Missile News And Discussion - Guest - 02-11-2010 via livefist [http://livefist.blogspot.com/] Image:http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_o_no4M2xEPY/S3MLWV6qObI/AAAAAAAAJWQ/kwFRChnawYE/s1600-h/agni5.jpg I spent a few minutes interviewing Dr Avinash Chander, director of India's Agni missile programme (and Director, Advanced Systems Laboratory) on Wednesday evening. He is the country's most valuable rocket scientist today, but you wouldn't know it. Unassuming, quiet and supremely focused on his task, he's a man who has spent the last three years giving the Indian government options that it has never had before. And with the Agni-III strategic missile completing its testing stage and now ready for operational induction with India's Strategic Forces Command, it's time for the next big thing. At this time next year, India will begin testing its longest range weapon yet, the newest in its Agni family of strategic ballistic missiles, named the Agni-V. According to DRDO chief Dr VK Saraswat, the country's seniormost weapon scientist, "The Agni-V has moved out of the drawing board. We have crossed the metal cutting stage. We are now testing and evaluating subsystems and plan to conduct a first flight trial within a year." According to Dr Chander, the Agni-V will be 22-metres long and approximately 1-ton heavier than the Agni-III. The Agni-V's navigation system and warhead will be identical to the Agni-III, as will a great deal of subsystems, aggregates and electronics. The team has stated that 60 per cent of the first missile system is complete, while the remainder involves the crucial third stage of the missile. Dr Chander revealed today that the challenges that lied ahead include changes in the payload structure, introduction of extra heating and slight changes to the re-entry mechanism. The Agni-V will also be the first Indian missile with a composite rocket motor as opposed to a metallic one. "The problems we had with previous tests of the Agni-2 and Agni-III were not design defects but problems with quality assurance. We have rectified those problems and don't foresee any such hurdles on the Agni-V," Dr Chander said. Clarifying that India did NOT have an independent intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) programme, DRDO chief Dr Saraswat said, "The country's requirement right now is a missile with a range in the region of 5,000-km-plus. A missile with a range beyond this has not been identified as necessary for our strategic programme. However, we have the capability to build longer range missiles if the country calls upon us to do so. The building blocks are already in place." Cocking a snook at the Chinese ballistic missile programme, Dr Chander told me, "I can say that our technology is maturer than theirs. And of course, there is no comparison at all with Pakistan. We are technologically way ahead of them. Of course, the Agni is our very own missile, not borrowed technology." Indian Missile News And Discussion - shijo - 02-11-2010 India readies propulsion system design for new cruise missile http://www.indianexpress.com/news/India-readies-propulsion-system-design-for-new-cruise-missile/578491 India has completed the propulsion system design of its new cruise missile 'Nirbhay', which will have a strike range of 800 kms <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' /> :blink:great news <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' /> <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' /> <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' /> <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' /> <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' /> Indian Missile News And Discussion - ramana - 02-11-2010 A request. This is serious thread and peppering with smileys etc takes it away from the seriousness. Thanks, ramana Indian Missile News And Discussion - Arun_S - 02-11-2010 Wow that is a nice picture of Agni-5 !!! But with obvious/telltale signs of photo-shop. The two inter-stage images have pixel pattern with ZERO change unexpected of any perspective view. Also see the reflected shadow on the left has been roughly transposed with no attempt made to erase it. [quote name='Austin' date='11 February 2010 - 09:25 AM' timestamp='1265860048' post='104107'] via livefist [http://livefist.blogspot.com/] Image:http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_o_no4M2xEPY/S3MLWV6qObI/AAAAAAAAJWQ/kwFRChnawYE/s1600-h/agni5.jpg I spent a few minutes interviewing Dr Avinash Chander, director of India's Agni missile programme (and Director, Advanced Systems Laboratory) on Wednesday evening. He is the country's most valuable rocket scientist today, but you wouldn't know it. Unassuming, quiet and supremely focused on his task, he's a man who has spent the last three years giving the Indian government options that it has never had before. And with the Agni-III strategic missile completing its testing stage and now ready for operational induction with India's Strategic Forces Command, it's time for the next big thing. At this time next year, India will begin testing its longest range weapon yet, the newest in its Agni family of strategic ballistic missiles, named the Agni-V. According to DRDO chief Dr VK Saraswat, the country's seniormost weapon scientist, "The Agni-V has moved out of the drawing board. We have crossed the metal cutting stage. We are now testing and evaluating subsystems and plan to conduct a first flight trial within a year."[/quote] Quote:According to Dr Chander, the Agni-V will be 22-metres long and approximately 1-ton heavier than the Agni-III. The Agni-V's navigation system and warhead will be identical to the Agni-III, as will a great deal of subsystems, aggregates and electronics. The team has stated that 60 per cent of the first missile system is complete, while the remainder involves the crucial third stage of the missile. Dr Chander revealed today that the challenges that lied ahead include changes in the payload structure, introduction of extra heating and slight changes to the re-entry mechanism. The Agni-V will also be the first Indian missile with a composite rocket motor as opposed to a metallic one. I the only way the second stage be added and the net weight increase is only 1 tonne is if one or more of the following are true for that configuration:
Quote:"The problems we had with previous tests of the Agni-2 and Agni-III were not design defects but problems with quality assurance. We have rectified those problems and don't foresee any such hurdles on the Agni-V," Dr Chander said. Hard way to learn the aftermath of weak quality assurance culture. Quote:Clarifying that India did NOT have an independent intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) programme, DRDO chief Dr Saraswat said, "The country's requirement right now is a missile with a range in the region of 5,000-km-plus. A missile with a range beyond this has not been identified as necessary for our strategic programme. However, we have the capability to build longer range missiles if the country calls upon us to do so. The building blocks are already in place." Let the maturity speak of itself by having adequate number of test flights. 4 test flights are too few to boast of maturity comparison w/China. Indian Missile News And Discussion - Arun_S - 02-11-2010 [quote name='Arun_S' date='11 February 2010 - 01:28 AM' timestamp='1265831415' post='104094'] Clearly shows the trajectory chosen had a range ~2500 km. If they had also shown teh velocity of teh missile, that would have given away its secret on trajectory and maxium range (for teh unknown payload mass it was carrying). Excellent !! [/quote] Also one would note very slight deviation from targeted trajectory as the missile gets near the apogee. The range for this teat flight was definitely 2500 Km and not 3,500 km as reported. The video proves it. Indian Missile News And Discussion - Arun_S - 02-11-2010 Deleted ..... my contempt for some daktarr... Indian Missile News And Discussion - Arun_S - 02-11-2010 [url="http://beta.thehindu.com/news/national/article104821.ece?homepage=true"]ââ¬ËWe are ahead of Chinese in missile programmeââ¬â¢[/url] Quote: New Delhi, February 11, 2010, HINDU [url="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/N-tipped-Agni-V-can-hit-all-of-China-Pak/articleshow/5558520.cms"]N-tipped Agni-V can hit all of China, Pak[/url] Rajat Pandit, TNN, 11 February 2010, 04:05am IST, ToI Quote:NEW DELHI: Brimming with confidence after last week's successful Agni-III test, India now hopes to test its first-ever intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) within a year. This nuclear-capable Agni-V missile will be able to hit even northernmost China. [url="http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=%E2%80%98India+senior+to+Chinese+missile+programme%E2%80%99&artid=DkFNlaf9XTs=&SectionID=b7ziAYMenjw=&MainSectionID=b7ziAYMenjw=&SEO=Inter-Continental+Ballistic+Missiles+%28ICBM%29&SectionName=pWehHe7IsSU="] DRDO: Agni-V will be tested in a year[/url] Quote:[url="http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/searchresult.aspx?AliasName=qK1tLBLX%7CpILczNiCZRSYEHJtp5ChTm2"]Express News Service[/url] First Published : 11 Feb 2010 03:17:00 AM IST Last Updated : Indian Missile News And Discussion - ramana - 02-11-2010 Based on AIII and AII we can make some informed guesses on the payload. The AII payload at ~1 tonne(RV with HAE etc) is most definitely a fission or boosted fission based. The AIII with its 1.5 tonne (RV with HAE etc) is a boosted fission one based on scaling. The fact that its ment for specific country is interesting. The payload has to be credible to that country. And the interesting thing is AIII was first tested in 2006 or design started ~ 5 to 6 years. So the GOI reconciled to the POKII yields early on while the world was debating the results. Another interesting factor is that A-V is to have same payload as the AIII per the quoted news reports. So no one is betting their hat on capability to design TN upto 200kt hogwash. It also means the target planners have come up with the requirements and not the scientists. "If you overfeed on hope you will die of starvation." Indian Missile News And Discussion - ramana - 02-12-2010 Are they sticking to the 40m CEP for this test of A-III too? meanwhile Pioneer reports Quote:FRONT PAGE | Thursday, February 11, 2010 | Email | Print | |