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Reasons And Excuses For BJP's Loss - ramana - 05-22-2009
A similar case
PR, Lok Satta marred partyâs chances: TDLP
They also cut into BJP
Reasons And Excuses For BJP's Loss - ramana - 05-22-2009
Jaitley says
Two Fronts ensured INC victory
Reasons And Excuses For BJP's Loss - ramana - 05-22-2009
They dont want to learn.
Reasons And Excuses For BJP's Loss - Guest - 05-22-2009
For some reason I don't see the agenda or policies of BJP a problem in its expansion. The problem I strongly feel is that they do not have a counter strategy when they see that they are slipping. I feel they do not have much of money too.
Reasons And Excuses For BJP's Loss - Husky - 05-22-2009
1. http://haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=8701&SKIN=K
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Crushing CROSS over Kerala</b>
17/05/2009 12:10:06Â SYNONYMOUS
Have a look at the following lists.
AK Antony, PJ Kurien, KV Thomas, PT Thomas, PC Chacko, Anto Antony, Jose Maani, Kodikuunil Suresh (converted) and Vayalaar Ravi (half-cross) â these are the list of MPs who will represent Kerala in Indian parliament. KE Ismail, PV Wahab, E Ahmed, Shanawaz, ET Basheer â this is another list of MPsâ of Kerala.
Together they make up 50% of the MPsâ from Kerala.
Let us see the balance list â Chandran pillai, PR Rajan, Thennala Pillai, Sampath, Peethambara Kurup, Dhanapalan, Raghavan, Sudhakaran, Ramachandran etc,. Most of them are out and out anti-Hindu in their approach. Most of them do not have any voice or leverage in Delhi . And none of them are concerned about the problems of Hindus in Kerala and will never even attempt to voice our concerns in any forum.
Be it :-
a.   ever increasing governmental encroachment into temple administration
b.   aggressive religious conversion targeted at Kerala Hindus
c.   utter disregard for Sabarimala pilgrims by not providing any facilities
d.   ever increasing terrorist outfits operating through Kerala with finance from the Gulf countries
e.   ever increasing missionary work master-minded from Kerala
f.    discrimination against the Hindu community in the Gulf countries
g.   discrimination against Kerala Hindus by restricting their avenues for education in professional colleges (most of them owned by Christians and Muslims)
h.   planned displacement of Hindus from certain districts and regions in Kerala
i.    the dwindling population of Kerala Hindus by forcing compulsory family planning measures on them alone
j.    planned love affairs for conversion or suicides of Hindu girls
k.   forcible take-over of lands from Hindu Adivasis
l.    highly discriminatory expenditure of public money in favour of Christians and Muslims of Kerala
None of these 15 namesake Hindu MPs are going to utter even one word in Indian parliament.
Is this democracy with universal adult franchise? In effect, it is proving to be distorted democracy with double franchise for Christians and Muslims. The so-called majority is completely neglected, side-lined and even insulted with no impunity.
At the end, we have only ourselves to blame for our own plight. If only we realize our mistake and if only we have some selfless leaders like in other communities, can we redeem our past glory that may be lost for ever.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And the comments:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->J.A.Kumar
19/05/2009 10:14:56Â Hindu MPs
MP also means Mindaa Praani and Mudiyanaya Putran. While Thennala, Dhanapaalan, Ramachandran & Rajan will be Mindaa Praanis in the parliament, we had one Mudinaya Putran in the name of Muralidharan. Anyway, Hindu MPs from Kerala are of no use to the Hindu cause in Kerala.
CONCERNED HINDU
18/05/2009 09:35:00Â ELECTIONS 2009
One hundred years form now when people will try to figure out why Hindus became a minority in their own country, when they would wonder why a great religion and nation of Hindus became subservient to Christians and Muslims forever, they would look at the elections of 2009 as a watershed event. They would look at this elections in the same light as the battles of Panipat and Pallassy where even though the Indians were strong and were favoured to win, they lost due to poor leadership. Historians would write how an italian woman came to India and married the crown prince (Rajiv Gandhi) and systematically build up christianity in India from 2 million in mid nineteen fiftees to over 100 million in year 2009(that is the rael number ) and close to 800 million in year 2109. Do not count on a Shankaracharya to come up and revive Hinduism like it happened when Buddhism had taken over India. This time India is being taken over by a foriegn religion and there won't be any possibility of a Shankaracharya reviving it any more. These foreign religions draw inspiration from and they are rooted in a foriegn land. They go to pilgrimages to a foriegn land. When Andhra CM wins in this election, where does he go to say thanks not to Tirupati, he goes to Israel to say thanks. So, do not count on a future revival of Hinduism. Once Hinduism disappears in the folds of Christianity, it is going to be forever.
(Either that's true or we could be like S Korea: where the fastest growing movements are Korean Buddhism (especially among ex-christians) and ex-christianism.)
Vijayalakshmi
18/05/2009 06:28:45Â Crushing Cross over Kerala.
Many thanks to 'Sea Lion' for coining an apt word:'chawlaising'(we should popularise this word in various forms)!He is right!There's no way the Con party could have swept the polls without the 'chawlaisation' of the EVMs. There's no way BJP could have lost in Jammu, no way the Con party could have gained so many seats in other states, but for this 'chawlaisation'.So Hindu brothers should not blame our BJP leaders, especially of Kerala, who worked quite hard.I had seen how well they put across their points in TV debates.My best wishes to all those who voted for the BJP!May God bless you all!The rest who voted for the other parties are all just slimy 'jenthus'.Even God cannot save those despicable creatures.I do not agree with 'Sea Lion's suggestion that Hindus should have en masse voted for the commies.Has he forgotten the ignominies heaped on Hindus by the arrogant commies?No,Hindus must realize that both the UDF and the LDF(all pseudo-secularists) are against them.For us, it is like a choice between the devil and the deep sea.The BJP was our only hope.Had the foolish and selfish NSS and SNDP supported the BJP, just as the Christian and Muslim clergy exhorted their congregations to vote for particular parties and candidates,there would have been some hope for the Hindus.An anti-hindu like Sashi Tharoor who recommended the Bharat Ratna for the perverted anti-hindu painter M.F.Husain, who caricatured our revered Deities in obscene postures,has been elected from Thiruvananthapuram.What a shame!We should not blame BJP candidates. After all,it is the 'chawlaisation' that is at the root of this Con party victory!
vivek
18/05/2009 06:12:58Â THe cross and crescent dark clouds
All is not lost be assured haindavas. We will never let the vatican colonise Kerala. We have only allowed them refuge but not the right to conquer us.It is time every child born to take take the cudgels to face the most serious threat to face the only pure earth on the surface of the sub-continent. These rascals have exploited to the hilt of the social evils that had existed among us.You have lost your land,your dignity but not you soul. Your families cannot survive without society. Even Hindu institutions are being bled to feed your would be destroyers. The threat is so insidious and subtle that we are being snuffed without even a squeal. Why blame the converts. The enemy is within.
girish Kadali
18/05/2009 04:55:54Â dont blame hindus
Dear all,
Dont be disheartend, the raise has to fall, and the this time it be buried.
Hindus are fools because they dont know reality, dont undestand the plan for evil.
Belive anti-Hindu media because they dont know that they are anti- hindu.
EC has directly supported congress in all ways. EVM were manipluated
Wee have to come up with our own media then only the problem will solved 50 %.
HK has to initiate this activitty ASAP
HK has to form a forum a like minded hindus from across world.
We have to meet each other personallly
Seperate login id for each user and Instan Messanger should also be provided so that we all can meet and discuss each other
Sarge
18/05/2009 04:28:35Â What sort of BJP leaders we have??
One quick question. Are there any credible BJP leaders from Kerala? I don't think so. O.Rajagopal did some thing, and had good rapport with BJP leaders from other parts of the country. What do the remaining "leaders" have? The MPs listed out, they all won elections just not because of their religion alone. It is very easy to say that. BJP does not have a capable leadership in Kerala, and its tactics used in Kerala is non-workable. It may work in North, but not here. Let BJP bring in good leaders and a "Kerala model" election campaign. Then it may yield results.
Sanjay
18/05/2009 03:55:47Â Reply
Most of them are correct but that love matter is utter blunder. And most of them are not only affected in Kerala all over India it si happening. Facilities and money granted for huj pilgrims etc are one of the example.
But remember my brothers and sisters we are now discriminated minority people in kerala how can we resolve this issue.
John B
18/05/2009 03:50:12Â Hindu Representation
If and only if NSS and SNDP had come together and put on an united front, we would have had an equal Hindu representation. But alas, it might take sometime before we can realise this.
Vaisakhan
18/05/2009 00:21:22Â No hindu in Kerala
Regret to say but it is a fact that has already been proved in elections: THERE IS NO HINDU in Kerala. Only Christians, Muslims and Communists!
Proud Hindu
17/05/2009 23:42:20Â Jaise karni waise Bharni
That's what is the choice of the people right???? More Swayam sevaks killed, more terror attacks, Ram setu gone, Kerala hindus might get the plight of Kashmiri Hindus.
This is DEMOCRACY!!!!
SeaLion
17/05/2009 23:22:42Â Kerala shud have voted LDFÂ
(What the? <!--emo&:o--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ohmy.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
En masse to keep the BARBARIC ASURIC CROSS OUT as I had been repeatedly suggesting. It would also had been 15 seats less for ITALIAN IMPOSTER 7200 BEDDED "SAINT". By the way SONIA MAINO and her Xian terrorist Sinhala Xian Mahinda Basil Rajkapse has also silenced PRABHAKARAN with this the real conpsirators in Rajiv Gandhi assasination (from Italy) have been effectively saved their skins. OFFCOURSE THE XIAN-ISLAMIST-KHALISTANI VATICAN HATCHED CONSPIRACY WITH "CHAWLAISED" EVMs have CHEATED THE ELECTIONS FROM REAL VICTORS. NO WAY WUD CONGRESS HAVE WON JAMMU, NO WAY CONGRESS WUD HAVE WON 20 SEATS IN UP, NO WAY CONGRESS WUD HAVE WON 12 SEATS IN MP, NO WAY THE CONGRESS WUD HAVE SWEEPED ANDHRA, NO WAY CONGRESS WOULD HAVE WON 10 SEATS IN GUJARAT, WITHOUT "CHAWLAISING" THE EVMs. THE FUNDALMENTALIST FILTHY AMERICAN PIG AND THEIR CIA WUD HAVE HELPED THEIR BEDWARMER
Ragu
17/05/2009 19:30:23Â hmmm...
One question...
Why do Kerala Hindus vote for criminals?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
2. http://haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=8708&SKIN=B
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Cong has Raj, superstars to thank for extra seats</b>
18/05/2009 14:38:05Â Author: Arati R Jerath ; Source : http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1257021
New Delhi: The Congress-led UPA has three men to thank for its seat surge in the 2009 Lok Sabha polls: Raj Thackeray, Chiranjeevi, and Vijayakanth. They helped the victorious alliance win nearly 50 more seats in Maharashtra, Andhra Pradesh, and Tamil Nadu than anyone would have expected, as a result of which the UPA ended up with 262 seats, against the 222 it won in 2004.
The big story is in Andhra Pradesh, where matinee idol Chiranjeevi single-handedly took the Congress from defeat to victory and shattered Telugu Desam Party chief N Chandrababu Naidu's dreams. An analysis of the results reveals that the Chiranjeevi factor decimated the TDP in 26 constituencies. The Congress netted 33 seats, four more than in 2004.
The Andhra Pradesh results are an irony of these elections. The Congress registered a drop of 3.84% in vote share but an increase of four seats, while the TDP's vote share plummeted 14.92% and it won one more seat. If the vote share change of the two main parties is added, it is obvious where Chiranjeevi's 17% vote share came from and which party he hit.
The other actor who rescued the UPA was Vijayakanth, who scripted history in a state known for pendulum swings.
For the first time in 23 years, the Tamil Nadu verdict was split, with the DMK-Congress combine picking up 26 seats and the AIADMK-led alliance having to settle for 13.
Vijayakanth's DMDK helped the Congress-DMK combine win in 14 constituencies, including P Chidambaram's hotly contested Sivaganga. In seven others, Jayalalithaa's AIADMK alliance was precariously poised till the very end. Ultimately, it won those seats, but by narrow margins. The final tally for the UPA was 26, 18 to the DMK and eight to the Congress, in a state where the ruling alliance feared a wipe-out.
The vote share figures tell a strange story in this state too. The DMK and the Congress registered an increase in vote shares but failed to sweep the state as in 2004, when their Democratic Progressive Alliance (which included the PMK and MDMK) won all 39 seats. The AIADMK's vote share dropped by 2.79% but the party won nine seats, unlike the duck five years ago.
The third game-changer was Raj. His Maharashtra Navnirman Sena (MNS) did exactly what it was expected to do. It cut into Shiv Sena-BJP votes and helped the Congress-NCP alliance to victory in 10 constituencies. Considering that the MNS contested only 12 seats, its delivery for the Congress-NCP was almost 100%. The UPA registered a spectacular second successive sweep in Mumbai and won Pune and Thane thanks to Raj.
(Everyone played their parts as scripted.)
The vote share picture is interesting here too. The Congress party's vote share fell 4.11% in Maharashtra but its seat tally rose by four, to 13. In contrast, the NCP's vote share is up by a slender 0.97% but its seat tally came down by one, to eight.
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Reasons And Excuses For BJP's Loss - Bodhi - 05-22-2009
after less than 6 months of the attack, and candle-lighting, only about 40% mumbai voters bothered to use their vote
Of those that voted 21+% supported anti-north-indian thug
what does it tell us about the collective mind of mumbai-dwellers?
if these 21+% morons were otherwise traditional voters of BJP and faux-ShivaSena, then I am glad that BJP-SS did not win.
Reasons And Excuses For BJP's Loss - Husky - 05-22-2009
Well, Raj Tacky's rise to the limelight was timed very conveniently. Hindus are very malipulable ("Oryans, Dravoodians", "N Indians, Maharashtrians").
Maybe - speculation - someone is just pressing all the 'right' buttons so that come voting time, the voter volume for KKKangroos' opposition (however useful the BJP/SS may or may not ultimately be for Hindus) is cut down in size and KKKangress emerges victorious. Which it did. Along with 'help' from EVM cheating in MH.
http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/05/win...-made-easy.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->2) Sena alleges EVM malfunction in South Mumbai
Rawale wondered how he got only 5 votes from an area that is a Shiv Sena stronghold.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Reasons And Excuses For BJP's Loss - Guest - 05-26-2009
xpost
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http://www.telegraphindia.com/section/frontpage/index.jsp
The Telegraph
<b>RSS defends Modi, blames campaign</b>
SANJAY K. JHA
New Delhi, May 23: The RSS has diagnosed bad campaigning, not Narendra Modi or Varun Gandhi, as the cause of the BJPâs poor poll show and recommended that the only cure is re-affirmation of its ideological purity.
In the latest issue of its mouthpiece Organiser, the RSS has interpreted the verdict as the peopleâs rejection of smaller parties (third front) and a vote for the âevolution of a national polity.â <b>Some essays have subtly suggested that the BJP move out of its coalition mindset and expand its own base.</b>
âThe silver lining in this electoral outcome is the unmistakable play of the national psyche and the emergence of a clear two-party system,â the editorial has said.
â<b>There is no evidence to show that the ideology of the party has failed.</b> There is also no evidence that the Modi campaign or the Varun Gandhi speech damaged its prospects. <b>The BJP actually failed in presenting itself as a better alternative offering stability and a national vision.</b> This has more to do with a mismanaged campaign and organisational weaknesses.â
The campaign was managed by the BJPâs most celebrated strategist Arun Jaitley, hailed as a rainmaker after victories in state elections.
But the RSS appears to have made a direct attack on his style of functioning. â<b>Over-dependence on hi-tech and affluence more than grassroots-level management damaged the party. Politics is played out in the field, not in air-conditioned chat rooms</b>.â
The RSS has also hit out at the BJPâs self-defeating obsession with media endorsement, saying âthis was one of the reasons for the party losing in urban constituenciesâ.
After the 2004 defeat, too, the RSS and a large section of the BJP had slammed hi-tech campaigning and media obsession. The campaign in-charge then was the late Pramod Mahajan, who had apologised for the defeat.
But a more hi-tech campaign was launched this time through Advaniâs website and sleek TV jingles. Nor did BJP strategists forget to shower pity on the Congressâs poor show on this front.
<b>The RSS also does not share the dilemma of senior BJP leaders on Hindutva politics. It has indicated that any attempt to dilute ideology would be crushed with brute force. â...it has to shut its doors on all those who want to reshape it as a Congress B-team,â </b>the editorial has said.
Reasons And Excuses For BJP's Loss - Husky - 05-26-2009
Reshuffle and repeat.
7 items from RS' blog.
1. http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/05/eur...nic-voting.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Europe rejects electronic voting</b>
may 24th, 2009
do the europeans know something we don't?
EVMs have been rejected as unconstitutional by the germans. <b>also see note in passing about how in 2004 indian evms were stuffed.</b> odd that newsweek doesn't say anything about 2009 india elections. but then guess who is editor of newsweek -- yes, farid zakaria, pal of the nehru dynasty.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/199102
<b>We Do Not Trust Machines
The people reject electronic voting.</b>
('Democracy' is only for long-distance ruling of India by christolands and their christoplants.)
By Evgeny Morozov | NEWSWEEK
Published May 23, 2009
From the magazine issue dated Jun 1, 2009
When Ireland embarked on an ambitious e-voting scheme in 2006 that would
dispense with "stupid old pencils," as thenâprime minister Bertie Ahern put
it, in favor of fancy touchscreen voting machines, it seemed that the nation
was embracing its technological future. Three years and â¬51 million later,
in April, the government scrapped the entire initiative. High costs were one
concernâfinishing the project would take another â¬28 million. But what
doomed the effort was a lack of trust: the electorate just didn't like that
the machines would record their votes as mere electronic blips, with no
tangible record.
One doesn't have to be a conspiracy theorist or a Luddite to understand the
fallibility of electronic voting machines. As most PC users by now know,
computers have bugs, and can be hacked. We take on this security risk in
banking, shopping and e-mailing, but the ballot box must be perfectly
sealed. At least that's what European voters seem to be saying. Electronic
voting machines do not meet this standard.
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2. http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/05/iee...emic-fraud.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>ieee computer on systemic fraud possible in electronic voting machines</b>
may 24th, 2009
thanks to a pointer from raja, i discovered this article is available free of cost to anyone on the net. from the may issue of ieee computer.
http://www.computer.org/portal/cms_docs_co...May09/r5pra.pdf
tanenbaum is well-known for his r&d, i remember his unix-like os, mix, much before linux and even gnu. he is a networking guru, too.
clearly, serious and reputed computer scientists are suggesting that the current system is highly susceptible to fraud.
Posted by nizhal yoddha at 5/24/2009 09:41:00 PM 2 comments
Blogger Rajagopal said...
  Andrew Tannenbaum is author of two very very notable textbooks used in IITs etc about networks and operating system. He also wrote minix OS. He was also the professor of Linus Torvalds - the Linux TM and Copyright owner
  When he says, he says so and it is so.
  Regards,
  Rajagopal
  5/25/2009 7:01 AM<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
3. http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/05/wsj...dia-should.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Sunday, May 24, 2009
<b>wsj echoes obama's line: india should "draw down", ie abandon kashmir</b>
may 24th, 2009
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124295392012445657.html
this is to be expected, as to the yanks, india is expendable. (especially to obama, for reasons we have discussed before).
<b>what is a little surprising is that indians have started echoing this.</b>
(Nothing surprising. It is the devolution of Hindu Dharma -> Nationalism -> 'nationalism' -> psecularism.)
<b>there was an article in mint by some guys who run a 'national interest' magazine on the web, and they too were suggesting this idiocy.</b>
i suppose this will mean there will be a full-court press soon to convince indians about how desirable it is to let all the taliban come into india, just so that pakistani nuclear weapons will be safe, and the americans can declare victory and go home. actually, we already have the taliban in india (does anybody realize that the taliban go by deoband's ideas? and there are a number mohammedans in kerala who are going to kashmir to kill indian soldiers).
Posted by nizhal yoddha at 5/24/2009 11:10:00 PM 4 comments
<b> 4 Comments</b>
Blogger DarkStorm said...
  <b>"national interest" magazine on the web</b>.. hmmm.. i guess I recall them. I used to read them but I stopped when they became too boring, full of long-winded paragraphs without hitting the nail on the head. Their good authors left them, it seems.
  5/25/2009 12:45 AM
Blogger AGworld said...
  the said blog is at www.nationalinterest.in
  The article in question had a deeply flawed viewpoint, so lets criticise that without writing them all off shall we?
  Nitin and Yossrin continue to write very well argued, cogent articles. Their blogs continue to be of a very high standard.
  5/25/2009 5:13 AM
Blogger Unique Perception said...
  Which article by N.I. are you refering to..??
  5/25/2009 12:14 PM
Blogger DarkStorm said...
  AGWorld,
  Regarding Yossarin, I agree. I am not sure about Nitin. He seems to be confused between pseudo-secularism and national interest.
  Cant really say if they have found their old touch, I havent read them since quite a while.
  I recall they had some good bloggers like catapult and cynical nerd (both of whom have been dormant for a long time). Seems like they have left them, especially after the focus of the site shifted from national interest.
  5/26/2009 12:39 AM
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4. http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/05/eve...ay-from-us.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>everybody else stays away from US treasuries, manmohan singh buys lots</b>
may 24th, 2009
given the current uncertainty about the US economy, and (now) the plunging dollar, none of the usual buyers of US Tbills have been active in the recent past -- eg. china has drastically cut its purchase of Tbills.
ah, but there is all-weather ally (aka india) rushing in to buy $38.2 billion of US Tbills in the recent past.
of course, manmohan singh has to support his pals.
i was going to say 'fools rush in where angels fear to tread', but no, there's something much more sinister going on.
i don't have the URL where these details were published, if anybody does, please post it.
Posted by nizhal yoddha at 5/24/2009 07:18:00 PM 2 comments
<b>Comments:</b>
Blogger anand said...
  The great Indian Sell Out effectively began in 2007 when Dr Kalam was not granted a second term which he deserved and the whole nation demanded. The Congress put in their candidate to ensure smooth passage of their plans.
  Would Dr Kalam have appointed Chawla as CEC? I wonder. Rest unfortunately, is going to be history.
  5/24/2009 8:41 PM
OpenID psenthilraja said...
  Rajeev,
  here is the link..
  http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Business/<b>India-buys-US-debts-worth-38-billion</b>-/articleshow/4573196.cms
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5. http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/05/how...become-big.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>how very convenient: india to become big arms buyer from US, that will be the next headline</b>
may 24th, 2009
more in the "how india is becoming a supplicant to the US" file. this is all part of the obama plan to "declare victory in afghanistan and move on". there will soon be demands for india to send troops to afghanistan to support the 'logistics' deal. and then demands for india to move troops out of kashmir so that pakistan can move troops to afghanistan. in other words, make it easier for terrorists to move in and take over. that is ISI kills some of their own (==taliban) in SWAT, while more ISI (=='kashmiri freedom fighters') walk into kashmir.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...9052400175.html
btw, very interesting to see hindu-hater krittivas mukherjee who edited this is not anti-US. therefore he is not a communist. so maybe some of my friends who claim <b>the US is the greater enemy of hindus</b> (more than the chinese) are after all correct in the matter.
<b>you still think yanks didn't have a vested interest in doctored EVMs?</b>
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6. http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/05/ind...cs-support.html
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090524/ts_nm/us_india_usa
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>India to Sign Logistics Support Agreement with US</b>
India is about to sign a major military pact with the USA - the Logistics Support Agreement.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090524/ts_nm/us_india_usa
Well, now the Muslim Vote Bank can taste the bitter fruits of their support to the Congress.
Posted by san at 5/24/2009 12:35:00 AM 0 comments
Labels: geo-politics, india, usa <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->The precursor to the subsequent step which was predicted in globalresearch or wherever half a decade ago: America wants Indian army to work for it (do all the dying and dirty work; the same way the Indian army did for the Brits). America also tried to push a deal with Canada where Canadian soldiers would ultimately be under US high command as well. Apparently the Canadians didn't like it all that much.
The deal's wordings are now at the "use of <b>bases</b> and supplies" point. Where it starts.
As a nice side-effect, the Indian army - already arch-psecular, frequently marrying into christianism and a shoe's throw away from converting into it - will become full of christos (the way christoism spread in the ranks of Rome's legions).
7. http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/05/kkk...-ready-for.html
Saturday, May 23, 2009
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>KKKangress bares fangs - get ready for this blog to be banned</b>
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Govt-ge...how/4562292.cms
so much for that democracy non-sense. Mahatma is out - Mussolini is back in.
This should suprise only the stupid of course - it is the perfect way to carry forward Chacha Stalin's "Animal Farm" agenda. The words for Kulapati Munshi ring ever so lound in my ears
"The P.S.P. is âunpracticalâ; Jan Sangh is âcommunalâ; the Swatantra Party is âfeudalâ, and the Press, no sooner it dared to raise its voice against the vicious trends in the Congress, is the âvoice of vested interestsâ "
guess where they will get the "great firewall" to block news website (hint - who are Xinhua Ram's friends that have the worlds largest net censoring operation?). why blame anyone - it is the public (or is it the EVM) that votes of course!
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Reasons And Excuses For BJP's Loss - HareKrishna - 05-27-2009
America wants Indian army to work for it-that surely americans want
But is not a chance for India to encirlcle Pakistan?To put military bases in Tadjikistan and Afganistan .Sourounding your potential enemy whit military bases seem to be fashionable today.
Reasons And Excuses For BJP's Loss - Capt M Kumar - 05-27-2009
In the book, he has said that the saffron party was gradually losing its identity as an all India party on account of its tie-up with regional parties, while the regional parties benefited of having alliance with the national party.
The allies in Haryana, Punjab, Orissa, Bihar, Uttar Pradesh, Maharashtra have benefited and had enjoyed the fruits of power in these states, Sharma said.
http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1258588
Reasons And Excuses For BJP's Loss - Husky - 05-28-2009
http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/05/rem...ufacturing.html
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may 27th, 2009
i read senthil's exposition on EVM frauds, and i agree. there are many instances of this.
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    went thru your long blog on EVM's
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    the latest issue of The Week magazine (red cover on career choises) has a news item (half page) on someone who has made a 12 page boooklet and filed a PIL regarding EVM's. Many such cases are given where actual polling did not match EVM figures.
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      Remote Controlling EVMs - Manufacturing Election result
      Date: Monday, 25 May, 2009, 2:06 PM
      I have composed a post on why EVMs could have been remote controlled,and because of that, the election result could have been a
      manufactured one.
      Please visit the following blog.
      http://psenthilraja.wordpress.com/2009/05/...lection-result/
      The purpose of this article is NOT just to raise doubt over this
      election. But i have tried to project the possibilities in future by
      the Use of EVMs, and that we should return to paper ballot.
      Otherwise, the current regime can go to any where, to inject a remote control feature in the EVM chipset, which could be manipulated from remote.
      Imagine, if atleast 10% of EVM's are fitted with remote access, then
      it means, the results could be tampered in atleast 50 seats.
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Reasons And Excuses For BJP's Loss - Guest - 05-29-2009
<b>The Medium's Massage </b>
Partha Banerjee
Outlook, June 1, 2009
:
http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodna...ver+Story&sid=4
<b>Introduction: By projecting the Gandhis, the media has blacked out what
matters</b>
The election results have proved once again that in today's globalised
world,<b> media propaganda works, issues don't. Our lives are now decided
by what the media dictates</b>. An influential editor admitted that it was
an election of "non-issues"; <b>to seasoned onlookers like me, it was
nothing more than soapbox advertisement for Sonia Gandhi and her
children. It worked!</b>
Glories now on Manmohan Singh, the "best prime minister" in
post-Non-Alignment India, for his "efficient handling" of the country's
affairs. But Manmohan-however erudite-couldn't have been prime minister
five years ago had Sonia not been denied the top position. <b>He was a
"compromise", perhaps because Rahul Gandhi was "too young". The
kingmakers will gradually throw him away-politely, of course-and crown
the new prince. We'll say, "Long Live India! Long Live Crown Prince
Rahul!"</b> Democracy and dynasty, together? We'll revisit that question in
2014. For now, the media wants us to be happy.
The new-generation Indian PR-journalism, its projection of Rahul as the
next prime minister (eerily reminiscent of the rise of his father) and
complete suppression of issues did it for the Congress. Western
commentators with little grassroots experience of Indian politics cheer.
They'll keep branding India the next rising sun in the East!
But the dark truth is, India and her 80 per cent unfortunates will
remain hungry and poor; terrorism, pollution, overpopulation, diseases,
environmental destruction and corruption will thrive; the rich will get
richer. Female infanticide and dowry deaths will continue. Women will
walk miles to fetch water. Kids will drop out of school. 'Untouchables'
and minorities will be denied basic rights. Repression of dissent will
remain unchecked. Of course, there will be more cricket matches, fashion
catwalks and Bollywood blitzes. There will be more near-zero-medal
Olympics. Bless my motherland and her soul.
And we don't need the BJP or the Left any more-<b>Congress will play the
roles they play. It will peddle fake Hindutva in the north and the west,
fake socialism in the east and south, and fake isolationism in places
nobody talks about. Note that countless, "liberal" Congress candidates
ceremonially went to temples to receive blessings to win their seats.</b>
Many received special advice from astrologers and fortune-tellers. Who
needs the conservatives?
Was the Congress ever a secular party when it comes to religion or
caste? We know how the Congress used the Muslim League in Kerala, Dalits
in Karnataka, Orissa and Andhra, 'untouchables' in Uttar Pradesh,
Rajasthan and Bihar (remember Jagjivan Ram), and played the Christian or
anti-Bengali card in the Northeast for decades to sustain power (and
trash its allies later on). The Congress showed how to use black money
in Indian politics, and how to buy dissidents from rival groups. The
Youth Congress and Sanjay Gandhi came into the limelight in the 1970s
through flexing of muscle. Has it really changed? Can Rahul Gandhi
change it? Does he know history in the first place?
The only thing that has changed in India is that, with serious
endorsement from a failed system that decimated the US economy, <b>the
new-generation "Americanised" India is now avidly jingoistic, anti-poor,
anti-social spending, and rabidly pro-wealth; the only difference
between the US and India is that while here, the US does have some
minimum safeguards against total moral disintegration of the powerful
elite, India does not</b>. That's scary. There's something else to worry
about. The Congress and BJP both knowingly chose nearly a hundred
criminals to be MPs representing a million people each: that's to
represent a total of 100 million people.What does it tell us in terms of
their judgement, vision and action plan? Wasn't Sonia, Rahul or Manmohan
part of the selection process?
If this election were about substantive issues-issues big-name
journalists suppressed-we'd talk about the failure of the Manmohan
government to protect Indians from terrorism and war. But it didn't
happen. The media didn't challenge Rahul and Priyanka on these critical
questions. Instead, it glorified their celebrity status and projected
them as vote-getters without scrutinising them.
Some are comparing the rise of Rahul with that of Barack Obama. But here
in the US, for nearly two years, media put Obama under the lens and
examined him inside out to examine his competence to be president. When
will we learn to do that? If not in election times, when? Jai Ho,
Incredible India! Long live her new kings and queens.
<i>(The writer is a rights and media activist in New York and author of In
the Belly of the Beast: Hindu Supremacist RSS and BJP of India-An
Insider's Story.)</i>
Reasons And Excuses For BJP's Loss - ramana - 05-29-2009
Decent analsysis by Swapan Dasgupta from the Telegraph 29 May 2009
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>THE WINNER TAKES ALL </b>
- An effortless <b>return to the Indira and Rajiv Gandhi era </b>
Swapan Dasgupta
The extent to which life can be cruel on the loser was best illustrated by the hapless Amar Singh imploring a TV anchor, âDonât laugh at me.â The occasion was the Samajwadi Partyâs gratuitous letter to the president of India offering âunconditionalâ support to the Manmohan Singh government. The triumphant Congress has so far ignored the gesture. <b>With the second Manmohan Singh government looking more like a Congress government (with some extras thrown in for colour and ethnic flavouring), it is likely that the illusion of single-party dominance is going to become the framework of political discourse for the next few years, or at least until there is a crisis that proves unmanageable.</b> This effortless return to the mental parameters of the Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi era may not be a good reflection of ground realities. But resounding post-facto endorsement of the chattering classes for the Ruling Party of India has, unfortunately, never been marked by profundity.
<b>The natural corollary of this winner-takes-all mindset is that after being at the receiving end of some initial mockery and derision, the vanquished will be left to lick their wounds in private, away from the intrusive glare of the media.</b> Both the deflated ministerial aspirants in the Bharatiya Janata Party and the frustrated puppeteers in the Communist Party of India (Marxist) know that they have a lot of listening and explaining to do. But they also know that some perfunctory show of contrition will suffice to defray the immediate frustrations of the foot soldiers. <b>Apparatchiks, particularly those who exist in a cloistered environment of the party offices, know that they can put off exercising hard options by falling back on the need to take a considered decision. Time and events being great healers, a rigorous post-mortem can be shelved indefinitely if the immediate pressure to take remedial action can be averted.</b>
It is paradoxical that despite functioning in a democratic environment, the internal regime of Indiaâs political parties is grounded in committee-room secrecy. This wasnât always so. Till the late-1960s, the Congress, for example, had a reasonable degree of inner-party democracy. Elections to the All India Congress Committees and their state counterparts were held regularly, and were often fiercely contested. The annual AICC sessions were often marked by speeches that were robustly critical of the governmentâs policies and the party leadership. Additionally, there were ginger groups such as the Congress Socialist Forum, which played a role in mobilizing the âprogressiveâ wing of the party. Open, rumbustious discussion was also a hallmark of the socialists. Ram Manohar Lohia fought bitter inner-party battles with the likes of Ashoka Mehta, Chandra Shekhar, N.G. Goray and Nath Pai. His flamboyant followers, such as George Fernandes, Raj Narain and Madhu Limaye, were great ones for exercising the âchange or splitâ option.
Communism in India was nominally wedded to the Leninist tradition of party organization that ensured a paramount role of the central committee and politburo â the proverbial vanguard of the vanguard. Yet, and particularly after P.C. Joshi attracted a cream of intellectuals into the party in the mid-1940s, the undivided CPI boasted a vibrant culture of political debate and discussion. The subjects of concern â the class composition of the Indian State and the relevance of âbourgeois democracyâ were two all-time favourites â may have been abstruse. There was also an exaggerated reliance on what Lenin âhimselfâ or Mao Zedong may or may not have prescribed, and cravenness before discreet instructions from Moscow. However, despite these constraints, the political âlineâ was thoroughly dissected at different levels and transmitted both upwards and downwards. The communists moved seamlessly from âcorrectness to correctnessâ, having internalized the party line with both passion and conviction.
The tradition of political openness received a grave setback after the Congress split of 1969 and the Emergency. The emergence of an all-powerful leader and the dynastic principle meant that decision-making was abrogated to the one and only leader. This may explain the steady stream of regional leaders and social constituencies that felt stifled and broke away from the Congress, never to return. In the 1990s, the Congress suffered three grievous electoral defeats and a complete washout in Bihar, Uttar Pradesh and West Bengal â states that accounted for more than 160 Lok Sabha seats. Yet, apart from one brain-storming session in Panchmarhi, the party did nothing to address the grave problem of political erosion. The Congress recovery in 2004, and the awesome advance in 2009, owed little to any well-considered plan of rejuvenation. It was an outcome of happy circumstances.
Rahul Gandhi has proclaimed his intention of democratizing the Congress, beginning with the Youth Congress. The intention is noble, and suggests that the heir apparent may have cottoned on to the root cause of the decline of political culture â a problem he has tried to circumvent by encouraging the growth of political families. However, the extent to which the Congress sheds sycophancy and reverts to its original moorings will depend on the calibre of its top leadership. It is one thing to promote inner-party democracy in the good times. But bad times often prompt a regression.
Jawaharlal Nehru loved debate because he possessed an intellectual rigour that his successors lacked. Nehru could coexist with the likes of P.D. Tandon and Pandit Sampurnanand because he believed they could be defeated in debate. Indira Gandhi couldnât countenance the likes of Morarji Desai, K. Kamaraj and Atulya Ghose in the same party because her leadership style was based on manipulation and instruction. She was temperamentally suspicious of leaders with independent standing.
<b>Curiously, it is the BJP which faces a problem not dissimilar to that of the Congress. If the Nehru-Gandhi family acts as an adhesive in the Congress, it is the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh that plays pope in the BJP. The BJPâs problems have multiplied on two counts.</b> First, <b>the RSS has lost its moral authority and social influence, thanks to its unwillingness to face contemporary realities.</b> Secondly, <b>success in electoral politics has triggered a breakdown of ideological certitudes and added to the charms of aggregative politics.</b> The RSS has tried to hold things together by issuing whimsical three-line whips on organizational and political matters. <b>Diktat has replaced informed choice, and this enforced regimentation has, in turn, stymied the partyâs renewal.</b>
After Atal Bihari Vajpayee and L.K. Advani, the partyâs presidents have lacked the depth to pursue creative politics. <b>Since the defeat in 2004, the BJP has more or less shed all pretence of inner-party debate, not least because the RSS minders and their chosen nominees have lacked the calibre and self-assurance to handle challenges. After the May 16 defeat, there is a strong possibility that a beleaguered RSS may insist on eschewing all debate altogether and settling for greater control. If that happens, the future of the BJP may be bleak.</b>
Restoring the credibility of politics and the political class is a national challenge. As democracy evolves and strikes deep roots, more and more people would want a say in how parties behave and who they project. <b>The Primary was once an American quirk, but it has now become crucial to the British system as well. In India, people are offered choices on election day, but have no say in determining the shortlist. No wonder stories of the sale of party tickets abound. To strengthen the quality of democracy and the efficacy of political parties, a system of constant interaction involving the top and the bottom is imperative.</b> David Cameronâs reinvention of the British Conservative Party suggests a possible way. <b>It is time the political culture incorporated the argumentative Indian.</b>
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Reasons And Excuses For BJP's Loss - ramana - 05-29-2009
And another article on the family cabinet led by MMS
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3 yawns, oath rush & sparkle of solitaire
SANKARSHAN THAKUR
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<b>Farooq Abdullah flanked by son-in-law Sachin Pilot (right) and son Omar Abdullah after being sworn in cabinet minister. Congress MP Pilot has become a minister of state while Omar is Jammu and Kashmir chief minister.</b> Picture by Rajesh Kumar
New Delhi, May 28: The inauguration of Manmohan Singhâs second term a week ago was abbreviated by late-hour hiccups within and outside the Congress; its full unfurling at the Rashtrapati Bhavan this afternoon was robbed of rapture by the patina of intervening labours and fatigue.
<b>This was less the investiture of a government handed a rousing mandate, more a cabinet expansion whose enigma had been foretold the previous evening â only the initiated and the interested came.</b>
None from the Opposition, Left or Right, none from among the UPAâs many supporting parties, not even Lalu Prasad and Ram Vilas Paswan who continue to press their loyalty to the ruling alliance. <b>As one prominent absentee later remarked, âOnce is enough for attendance, this was only a continuation of what they couldnât finish at one go.â</b>
Besides, the office and secrecy formalities probably went on too long even for those who this event was made for â close to two hours of monosyllabic lead-ins from President Pratibha Patil â the first personal singular âmainâ and then âmainâ again â followed by a double oath repeated 60 times over.
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By the time they came to the third of the six serried rows of those to be sworn in, Mamata Banerjee had treated herself to the abandon of the first of at least three yawns. And when the first of her nominees to government, <b>the veteran Saugata Roy, was called to the podium, he seemed darting ahead of patience â he began to swear himself in before President Patil had even risen. </b>But in the process Roy had afforded the occasion a rare relief from routine.
The only other, perhaps, was that the Rashtrapati Bhavan chefs actually did a decent job of their âFish Amritsariâ; but with Manmohan Singh, Amritsari himself, at the helm of the show, they had probably strained to please. It couldnât be ascertained if <b>the Prime Minister </b>partook of the offering; what he <b>made certain was that he himself was offering little.</b>
âThe Presidentâs address to the joint session of Parliament and the budget will indicate the course my government intends to take,â was all he said to a slew of questions on the UPAâs policy direction in its second innings. âThis government is a mix of experience and energy and we expect many good things from it.â
Trailing in the Prime Ministerâs wake, as he trawled the sparkling corridor between Ashoka Hall and the ornate first-floor tea rooms, was a merry procession of mutual congratulation â those that had stayed on and those inducted anew had equal cause for elation.
<b>None seemed more pleased than the oversized Karunanidhi contingent from Chennai, turned out rustling crisp, whether it was khadi or Kanjeevaram; and you couldnât have missed the sparkle of solitaires. But then, unlike ministries that come and go, diamonds are reliably known to be for ever.</b>
<b>Never perhaps has one clan grabbed two cabinet berths in New Delhi.</b> Despite Dayanidhi Maranâs protestations that too much was being made of the DMK family show, he and M.K. Azhagiri together make a first.
And should you include A. Raja, godson to Rajathi, third wife to Karunanidhi and mother to Kanimozhi, theyâve probably scripted history tough to match in the future. No wonder they populated the occasion as well they could â Azhagiriâs mother Dayalu, wife and brother Stalin, cousins and nephews and their wives and kin. Kanimozhi was nowhere to be seen, but her arrival is probably only a turn of mood away with the old man of Gopalpuram.
<b>Karunanidhiâs was not the only family celebrating multiple hits. There were the Abdullahs from the other end of the country, scoring their own first of sorts â father-in-law (Farooq Abdullah) and son-in-law (Sachin Pilot) in the same government;</b> Abdullah was Nehruvian in his white rose-in-the-buttonhole achkan, the young Pilot deferentially Rajasthani in a flaming red plume of a saafa.
This wasnât a stage they were going to let go without grandstanding Kashmir style â prodigal son and J&K chief minister Omar Abdullah was there with wife Payal and two bubbly sons, so was elder sister Safiya and her husband on a rare break from their zealously preserved privacy on the peripheries of Srinagar.
<b>For Purno Sangma, it seemed like an overwhelming second coming. Heâs been there, seen it all, several governments and cabinets, the Lok Sabha Speakerâs chair, but this afternoon he seemed to revel afresh in daughter Agathaâs reflected glory. Agatha was the last to be sworn in but she too scored a first today as youngest Union minister ever; the elder Sangma wasnât permitting anyone to leave without that uniqueness underlined.</b>
<b>But the family that really seduced most interest and attention was the one that had no podium moment today âCongress and UPA boss Sonia, resplendent in violet crepe, and her most sought after general secretary, Rahul, sporting a stylised post-poll stubble, four days or so old.</b>
One has made a creed of her renunciation of office, the other has decided to take more time mulling an open invitation from the Prime Minister. There was nothing in it for the Gandhis today. <b>Yet all of it was only theirs.</b>
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There we have an elected moanrchy!
Reasons And Excuses For BJP's Loss - Guest - 05-29-2009
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They appointed Prime Minsiter, so that can stay away from responisbility.
Add Badal, Ghealot , Karuna, Mullah Yadav in list.
Reasons And Excuses For BJP's Loss - Husky - 05-31-2009
Comment at
http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/05/dmk...be-revived.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Aj said...
  Rajeev,
  finally someone is voicing their concern about the EVMs
  http://www.deccanchronicle.com/hyderabad/n...blames-evms-720
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Given link:
www.deccanchronicle.com/hyderabad/now,-naidu-blames-evms-720
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May 29th, 2009
Hyderabad
May 28: The Telugu Desam president, Mr N. Chandrababu Naidu, is now suspecting faulty Electronic Voting Machines for his partyâs defeat in the recent elections. He prefers the age-old ballot paper be continued.
Mr Naidu promised to infuse new blood into the party and reward hardworking party leaders and workers.
The TD chief scrapped the partyâs state and district committees and announced the constitution of ad hoc committees till new bodies were elected. He asked party leaders from the districts to review the poll debacle and give him reasons for the same.
Mr Naidu gave enough hints that the EVMs were not above suspicion in addition to the split in the anti-government votes by Praja Rajyam besides other reasons.
âWe received complaints from several places about malfunctioning of EVMs. Mr K.E. Krishnamurthy called up from Dhone and said that faulty EVM stopped polling for three hours. Many voters had to return dejected,â he alleged.
Mr Naidu cited an AIADMK complaint to the Election Commission alleging rigging in the recent elections due to EVMs and demanded reversion to the ballot paper. Ms Jayalalithaa has been arguing against the EVMs and referred to some developed countries reverting to ballot paper after they found out that EVMs were being manipulated.
âThe AIADMK chief had also lodged a complaint against EVMs. There is demand for reverting to ballot paper,â he said. Several party leaders also blamed the Mahakutami for the defeat of the Telugu Desam evoking sharp reaction from the CPI leader, Mr Narayana. The TD chief made it clear to party cadre not to indulge in superficial reviews but concentrate on the causes for the defeat of the candidate in each constituency.
Mahanadu celebrated the 86th birthday of N.T. Rama Rao with pomp and honoured many film personalities. D.V.S. Raju, a close associate of NTR, cut a huge cake and presented the same to Mr Naidu, Balakrishna and Jr NTR.
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