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State News And Discussion - II - Guest - 01-20-2006
Bangalore crisis: Gowda's son set to take over as CM
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Kumaraswamyâs contingent had joined the 78 BJP MLAs who were <b>moved to film producer Sanjay Khanâs farmhouse on the outskirts of the city</b>. <!--emo&:blink:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo-->Â As a matter of fact, the number of MLAs supporting the Kumaraswamy-BJP push for power reached an impressive 134 after the five-strong JD(U) also decided to hitch its wagon to the combination.
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State News And Discussion - II - Guest - 01-21-2006
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Dharam mulls exit route
Pioneer.com
PT Bopanna / Bangalore
Even as Karnataka Chief Minister N Dharam Singh on Friday hinted that he could step down before the January 27 deadline given to prove his majority, rebel Janata Dal (Secular) leader HD Kumaraswamy made it clear that there was no going back on his decision to align with the BJP to form a coalition Government.
Two days after Mr Kumaraswamy reduced his government to a minority, Mr Dharam Singh showed signs that he could step down sooner than later. He stated: "I have an option to exit. I cannot take individual decisions. I have to wait for the high command's permission." He added that the high command had not given him any direction so far.
Known for his affable nature, Mr Dharam Singh showed his anger at the 'upstart' Kumaraswamy and accused him of indulging in horse-trading by "taking away the MLAs to toe his line to destabilise the coalition government." He ruled out any negotiations with Mr Kumaraswamy who had given him sleepless nights for the last couple of days.
Mr Deve Gowda, who is said to be the man who jolted the lady of 10 Janpath, by pulling the rug from under her feet, <!--emo&
--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> looked upon the unfolding drama from the sidelines, and gave enough hints that he was not going to spoil his son's party. In an interesting insight, Mr Deve Gowda's associates are believed to have pointed out that the division of the loaves and fishes of office have so far not been equitable.
They have apparently asked Congress emissaries to accept Mr Kumaraswamy as the Chief Minister and also ensure that the spoils of office are equitably distributed with retrospective effect. In return, they have promised to put pressure on Mr Kumaraswamy to change his stand only if the Congress agrees to the deal.
"We cannot be expected to live on love and fresh air alone in the name of secularism while Congress leaders go around with bloated pot-bellies," sources said.
Assuming that the whole plot was masterminded by Mr Kumaraswamy, if Mr Gowda wanted to stop his son from going ahead with his plans, he could have put many hurdles in the way. He could have asked the leader of the official JD (S) in the Assembly MP Prakash to issue a whip to the party members to vote for the Congress-JD (S) coalition in the confidence motion in the Assembly.
Making it clear that the decision to distance from the Congress and join the saffron brigade was his own decision, Mr Kumaraswamy remarked: "I have not betrayed my father. Actually at his juncture in Karnataka, the Congress people are using secular sentiments to destroy our party."
Hitting out at the Congress for the turn of events, he said: "<b>For the past 20 months, they humiliated our party workers, MLAs and even our ministers, and even the Chief Minister had changed the orders taken by JD (S) ministers."</b>
Rejecting the charge that the entire operation to break away from the coalition was masterminded by his father, Mr Kumaraswamy said: "I have not met my father for the last one week, not even spoken to him over phone. At this moment all my MLAs are forcing me not to discuss anything with our senior leaders, including my father, lest through some sentiment, again he will force us to support Congress. My MLAs are surrounding me and not giving me permission to talk to my father." Meanwhile, the JD (S) headed by Mr Gowda postponed the convention of party workers slated for January 23.
Mr Gowda, meanwhile, held consultations with Deputy Chief Minister Prakash, Finance Minister PGR Sindhia, and senior leader M Rajashekhara Murthy and debated on whether to continue with the Congress led coalition, opt for a parallel government formation or face mid-term election to the State Assembly. "No decision was taken at the meeting," Mr Prakash said. However, Mr Sindhia stated the party was firm on not aligning with the <b>BJP or the RSS</b>. Mr Sindhia noted the JD (S) did not contemplate any disciplinary action against Mr Kumaraswamy. "At this stage, actions of Kumaraswamy cannot be viewed as indiscipline. He has kept the MLAs to save the party and prevent horse-trading by the Congress," Mr Sindhia remarked.
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State News And Discussion - II - acharya - 01-22-2006
Even religious groups want to change govts
Milli Council's plea to Deve Gowda
Special Correspondent
NEW DELHI: The All India Milli Council has urged Janata Dal (Secular) chief H. D. Deve Gowda to rise above personal grudges and stick to his commitment for secularism.
Drawing Mr. Gowda's attention to his assertions about secularism before the previous Parliamentary and Assembly polls, the council said Mr. Gowda's image would be tarnished if he failed to prevent the Dharam Singh government from falling and dissuaded his son from aligning with the BJP to form an alternate government in Karnataka. <span style='color:red'>Pointing out politics in the country was at the "most crucial stage," the council general secretary, M. Manzoor Alam, referred to new BJP chief Rajanth Singh's declaration of returning to core Hindutva issues. </span>
State News And Discussion - II - Guest - 01-23-2006
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Gowda, son kiss and make up; curtains for Dharam Singh</b>
Pioneer.com
PT Bopanna / Bangalore
Politics in Karnataka which has been on a roller coaster ride for the last few days, witnessed a classic turnaround on Monday after former Prime Minister HD Deve Gowda met his son HD Kumaraswamy here and praised him for breaking his Janata Dal (Secular) "to save it from being destabilised by the Congress."
With this, all chances of the Congress patching up with Mr Gowda and preventing the installation of a coalition government in Karnataka consisting of the breakaway JD (S) headed by Mr Kumaraswamy and the BJP have receded.
The existing Congress-JD (S) coalition government headed by Mr N Dharam Singh had been reduced to a minority after Mr Kumaraswamy walked away with 45 JD (S) MLAs.
This was the first meeting between Mr Gowda, the president of the Janata Dal (Secular) and his son, Kumaraswamy after the latter broke away last Wednesday and met the Governor to stake claim to form a government with the support of the BJP.
<b>Mr Kumaraswamy, who was camping with his MLAs in far away Goa to prevent their being poached by the Congress</b>, air-dashed to Bangalore on Monday afternoon after being summoned by his father.
Mr Gowda who had termed his son's decision to break away from the party and take the help of the BJP to form an alternative government as the "saddest day of my life" a few days ago, on Monday heaped praise on his son Kumarawamy.
Addressing reporters after the meeting with Mr Kumaraswamy, Mr Gowda stated: "<b>I believe what my son had done was to save the party. Otherwise, they (Congress) would have split the party. I have said it once and I will say it a hundred times, the Congress wanted to destabilise my party. I will give out all the details after I meet Congress President Sonia Gandhi." </b>
Though the Congress camp has stated that Congress president Sonia Gandhi was planning to meet Mr Gowda on January 25 as a last ditch effort to save the Congress-JD (S) coalition, so far Mr Gowda has not received any word from the Congress president on the meeting. Former deputy chief minister Siddaramaiah, whose growing affinity towards the Congress was the immediate provocation for Mr Kumaraswamy to withdraw support to the Dharam Singh-led coalition government, remarked: "According to me, this entire drama has been directed by Deve Gowda himself. I completely oppose these unethical activities."
Meanwhile,<b> Mr Gowda's aide YSV Datta alleged that Maharashtra Governor SM Krishna had attempted to split the JD (S) through Mr Siddaramaiah by offering inducements to JD (S) legislators.</b>
Senior BJP leader BS Yediyurappa, who is all set to become the deputy chief minister under the proposed coalition between breakaway JD (S) and the BJP, said: "The wedding day has been fixed. Hearts have come together. Now, Mr Gowda should bless us."
Mr Dharam Singh is slated to prove his majority in the Assembly on January 27. The Chief Minister is slated to meet the Congress president on Monday evening.
Meanwhile, <b>a group of leaders representing various Muslim organisations on Monday called on Mr Gowda and appealed to him against aligning with the BJP "to stop the Fascist forces from gaining power in the State."</b>
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Contract marriage??
State News And Discussion - II - acharya - 01-24-2006
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Karnataka politics
After the elections to the Karnataka Assembly, the single largest party was kept out of power by the two parties that contested against each other. Now one of them which carries the suffix `secular,' has no problem closing ranks with the communal BJP. For its part, the BJP, the larger party in the proposed coalition, is prepared to support the Ministry of the minority party. Present-day politicians are time and again playing with the lives of the people. It is time people gave clearer verdicts.
R.K. Thommandra,
Hyderabad
Despite being the single largest party in the State, the BJP is ready to play second fiddle to the JD (S), which has given the go-by to its secular roots to align with the so-called communal BJP.
V. Vinoth,
Tindivanam, T.N.
Why the hue and cry over JD (S) leaders courting the BJP? When the Congress can run the UPA Government by hobnobbing with communists, foe-turned-friend DMK and other fringe groups, what is wrong in the BJP supporting the prodigal son?
H.P. Murali,
Bangalore
The Congress, which has been used to power for over four decades, cannot allow other parties to thrive. It can neither manage a steamrolling majority nor get along with coalition partners. Its big brother attitude does not allow small partners an adequate share in power. Nor can it tolerate big parties like the BJP.
M. Srinivasan,
Chennai
Karnataka has driven home the reality that none is secular or communal in political India as long as one gets power. Those who gloated over the formation of the Congress-JD(S) Government saying it is secular now have egg on their face. There have been other instances in Indian politics in which the high priests of secularism have had no qualms in achieving political power with the BJP's support.
N. Parthasarathy,
Mumbai
The withdrawal of JD (S)' support to the Congress and subsequent extension of it to the BJP, which it once called communal, shows ideological commitment has taken a backseat to power.
Shruti Mittal,
New Delhi
The political vaudeville in Karnataka is taking strange twists and turns bearing the hallmarks of Ripley's Believe It or Not. What a fall from grace for the grand old party that finds itself in a sorry state.
H.R. Bapu Satyanarayana,
Mysore
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State News And Discussion - II - acharya - 01-24-2006
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JD(S) leader Danish Ali meets Karat
The meeting took place soon after Deve Gowda held talks with Kumaraswamy who has raised the banner of revolt
New Delhi: With the coalition Government in Karnataka tottering, senior Janata Dal (Secular) leader Kunwar Danish Ali on Monday met General Secretary of the Communist Party of India (Marxist) Prakash Karat and reviewed the volatile political situation in the State.
Both the leaders held discussions for over half an hour at the CPI (M) headquarters here within hours of a meeting between Janata Dal (S) President H.D. Deve Gowda and his rebel son H.D. Kumaraswamy and amid speculation of a patch-up between the two.
"We exchanged views on the political situation in the State as CPI (M) is also a partner in the Congress-Janata Dal (S) coalition in Karnataka," Mr. Ali said after the meeting.
Reasons for split
Though Mr. Ali declined to elaborate, sources said he had informed Mr. Karat about the "reasons" for the split in the Janata Dal (S) Karnataka unit and the "role" played by a section of the ruling ally Congress in breaking the legislature party.
They also indicated the possibility of Mr. Karat intervening in the situation to resolve the impasse to unite "secular" forces in an attempt to save the Government and to keep BJP at bay.
The meeting between Mr. Ali and Mr. Karat follows the CPI (M) General Secretary's interaction with Mr. Deve Gowda last week on the Karnataka developments. â PTI
State News And Discussion - II - Shambhu - 01-24-2006
These "secular" parties urgently need to meet to discuss how to keep the aam Indian from seeing through their "secularism"
State News And Discussion - II - Guest - 01-24-2006
FWIW
Cong on a roll, says poll
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State News And Discussion - II - Guest - 01-27-2006
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Krishna says CM failed to fulfil constitutional obligation</b>
BANGALORE, JAN 27
Karnataka Assembly Speaker Krishna, who is in the eye of a storm for his controversial decision to recognise JD(S) rebel group leader H D Kumarasamy as the party's legislature group leader, today accused Chief Minister Dharam Singh of having failed to fulfil his constitutional obligation of proving majority in the house.
"Despite giving three opportunties by adjourning the house, the Chief Minister failed to move the motion seeking a vote of confidence", Krishna told reporters here, declaring that he would report the developments to the Governor.
"I have no option other than to report to the Governor", he said.
Krishna, referring to the Congress demand for seeking his clarifications on his action of recognising the rebel group, said "there is no need for any clarification. The session was called to seek a vote of confidence as per the directions of the Governor" "It is the Chief Minister's constitutional obligation to move the motion. Recognising any legislature group is my prerogative. It is not for the Congress to question", he said.
Since January 19, after the JD(S) group petitioned him, seeking recognition to Kumaraswamy as its leader, he has consulted legal experts, he said.
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What else one can expect from Congress Party? Somebody Please give them tution in Indian Consitution.
State News And Discussion - II - Guest - 01-27-2006
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Secularism is one-way traffic: Pinarayi Vijayan
1/25/2006 3:17:59 AM HK Correspondent
THIRUVANAMTHAPURAM: Pinarayi Vijayan, the CPM strong man in Kerala declared here on unequivocal terms that secularism is only a one- way traffic. Reacting sharply to JD(S) leader Deve Gowdaâs statement that secularism should not be a one-way traffic, Vijayan said he or his party do not subscribe to the formerâs view on secularism. <b>With this declaration, the CPM has made it known to one and all that secularism is nothing but gross Hindu bashing and appeasement of the minority communities</b>.
Vijayan also warned Deve Gowda of extreme measures in the event of the JD(S) forming a front with BJP in Karnataka.
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State News And Discussion - II - Guest - 01-27-2006
Why couldn't the opposition move a no-confidence motion? Why does it have to be a confidence motion moved by Dharam Singh?
State News And Discussion - II - Guest - 01-28-2006
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Why couldn't the opposition move a no-confidence motion? Why does it have to be a confidence motion moved by Dharam Singh? <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
After JD(S) division, BJP and JD(S) requested Governor to install JD(S) +BJP government, CM Dharam Singh refused to resign and called on Governor TN Singh to seek opportunity to prove his majority, Governor gave him opportunity and called <b>session to seek "Vote of confidence". </b>Itâs all about technicality.
I think they could have done by calling "No confidence motion" session.
I think JD(s)+BJP never expected Dharam Singh will stick shamelessly.
Correct me.
State News And Discussion - II - Guest - 01-28-2006
<span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='font-family:Impact'><!--emo&:cool--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/specool.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='specool.gif' /><!--endemo--> time is ripe to have indirectly elected Guvs like President as u can c no lesson has been learnt from Buta affair</span></span>.
State News And Discussion - II - Guest - 01-28-2006
Look at the pathetic show by the cling-ons (not the brave Klingons of star trek).
1. Laloo & Rabri can't bear to move out of their bungalow even after umpteen notices
2. Buta Singh threw a tantrum to take a last salute
3. Dharam Singh perhaps still hoping for a miracle from Benny Hinn.
Time to quote Mirza Ghalib:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>nikalanaa khuld se Adam kaa sunte aaye the lekin
bahut be-aabroo hokar tere kooche se hum nikle</b>
<i>We used to hear about Adam getting kicked out of the garden of Eden
But it was nothing as compared to the utter humiliation with which I had to leave your street. </i><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
State News And Discussion - II - Guest - 01-28-2006
Add grumpy Natwar Singh to the list of Congress-Clingons.
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P.S. Dharam Singh has resigned, finally....
For whom the bell tolls next?
State News And Discussion - II - Guest - 02-02-2006
Tussle between Madhavsinh (his son Bharatsinh actually) and Shankersinh, the traitor, is interesting to watch.
http://in.rediff.com/news/2006/feb/01capbuz.htm
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Weeks before they appointed his son, Bharatsinh Madhavsinh Solanki, the Congress Party MP from Anand in Gujarat, head of the Pradesh Congress Committee, former external affairs minister Madhavsinh Solanki had been making threatening noises against the party leadership.
In the Central Hall of Parliament, there were whispers galore that Solanki was desperate to encash the IOU he had duly earned when, as foreign minister in the P V Narasimha Rao government, he had given his Swiss counterpart a letter requesting an immediate end to the ongoing investigation into the Bofors deal. Once the contents of the letter were leaked to the media, it may be recalled that Madhavsinh Solanki was forced to quit. He had, since then, been in the political wilderness.
Even under intense media pressure, the former minister refused to name the person who had given him the letter. That was in the early 1990s. Since then, he had felt isolated and ignored in his own party, especially after long-time Jan Sangh-Bharatiya Janata Party renegade Shankarsinh Vaghela had been admitted into its ranks and later made a minister in the Manmohan Singhgovernment.
To ensure the lid stayed tightly shut over the conspiracy, the Congress leadership decided to placate the senior Solanki. That was why, a few days ago, Bharatsinh was nominated Gujarat party president despite tough opposition from senior leaders in the state unit. So strong was the opposition that Sonia Gandhi had to offer sops to his archrivals. Almost simultaneously, Urmilaben Patel was nominated to the Congress Working Committee.
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State News And Discussion - II - Guest - 02-04-2006
The "secular" fundamentalists at Deccan Herald editorial team has massive belly ache at the "opportunism" of BJP-JD coming to power in Karnataka.
http://www.deccan.com/SatEditorial/Editori...tion%20politics
State News And Discussion - II - Guest - 02-04-2006
nau soo muse khaay billi hajj ko chali.. <!--emo&:roll--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ROTFL.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ROTFL.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:roll--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ROTFL.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ROTFL.gif' /><!--endemo-->
State News And Discussion - II - Guest - 02-09-2006
HD Kumaraswamy wins K'taka trust vote
State News And Discussion - II - acharya - 02-09-2006
New Govt wins numbers game
DH News Service Bangalore:
After a 14-hour heated debate, Chief Minister H D Kumaraswamy won the motion of confidence in the Legislative Assembly in the early hours of Thursday by 138-66 votes.
While 138 members belonging to the JD(S), BJP, JD(U) and independents in the 225-member House supported the confidence motion moved by the Chief Minister, only 66 MLAs from the Congress and the AIPJD of Siddaramaiah opposed the trust vote. As many as 19 members, including the chief ministerâs brother H D Revanna and some Congress members, were absent.
Interestingly, all the senior JD(S) leaders and MLAs from Hassan district, who had been opposing the new combine, also voted in favour of Mr. Kumaraswamy. However, former minister P G R Sindhia was the lone exception as he opposed the motion, the voting for which was held by way of a head count.
The discussion on the motion of confidence was prolonged as the Congress members and AIPJD leader Siddaramaiah launched a verbal attack against the new combine. This resulted in a heated exchange of words between the members of the new alliance and the Congress-AIPJD members throughout the discussion. The Congress members questioned the secular credentials of the JD(S) and came down heavily on it for joining hands with the BJP.
CMâs grief
However, Mr. Kumaraswamy who sat through the entire discussion despite his father-in-lawâs death late in the evening, launched a counter-attack against the Congress and alleged that the latter was responsible for his decision to pull out of the Dharam Singh Government. He accused the party of dividing his family and creating a rift between him and his father. While the Congress ridiculed him for moving away from the secular ideology, Mr. Kumaraswamy shot back by claiming that his ideology was economic uplift of the poor sections in all communities.
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Referring to the allegations that the minorities were alarmed by his decision to join hands with the BJP, he wondered, âWho is scared? The minorities or you (Congress)?â He disclosed that the BJP had offered to tie up with the JD(S) soon after the 2004 elections and that he had declined the offer.</span>
âThere was no co-ordination or mutual trust between the Congress and the JD(S) legislators right from Day One of the coalitionâs formation,â he maintained. While the BJP had issued a whip to its 79 MLAs to vote in favour of the motion, the Congress and the JD(S) had not issued whips.
The Congress and AIPJD leaders used the platform to launch a blistering attack against the new combine as parties with contradictory ideologies had come together to share power.
The new Leader of the Opposition in the Legislative Assembly N Dharam Singh alleged that Mr. Kumaraswamy had thrown principles, ideology and secularism, which his party claimed to stand by, to the winds by aligning with the BJP.
Mr. Singh, who was recognised as the Opposition Leader by Speaker Krishna as soon as the House assembled, warned the Chief Minister to be wary of BJP. The BJPâs final push to capture power on its own would be targeted at Mr. Kumaraswamy, he said.
Senior Congress leader and KPCC president Mallikarjuna Kharge termed the new alliance as âunholy allianceâ and âunprincipled marriageâ.
Mr. Kharge said the people of the state would teach the coalition partners a lesson in the next elections. âYou cannot go against their verdict. The people voted against the communal forces, now you have joined hands with a party whose one-point agenda is to build a Hindu rashtra,â Mr. Kharge told the JD(S) members.
Former minister R V Deshpande said the JD(S) had betrayed the Congress by joining hands with the BJP. âThe BJP will not allow you JD(S) to function freely and effectively. The government has been formed on quicksand and hence it will not be stable,â he opined.
Earlier, recalling the services of the former chief ministers, including H D Deve Gowda, S M Krishna and Dharam Singh, Mr. Kumaraswamy said he would strive for the comprehensive development of the State.
Senior leader Sindhia said he was pained over the developments that led to the removal of JD(S) Legislature Party leader M P Prakash. For him, Mr. Prakash continued to remain the legislature party leader, he remarked. But Mr. Prakash, surprised everyone by stating he accepted Mr. Kumaraswamy as his leader.
Speaking to reporters after the trust vote, the Chief Minister said the Cabinet expansion would take place in four or five days. Deputy Chief Minister B S Yediyurappa said the Governor would address the joint session of the State Legislature on February 20.
A STROLL IN THE PARK
* M P Prakash does a volte-face, says H D Kumaraswamy is his leader * P G R Sindhia says M P Prakash is still the JDLP leader.
* CM orders probe into land grabbing.
* Dharam Singh recognised as Leader of the Opposition in Assembly.
Scorecard
For : 138
Against : 66
Absentees : 19
Notable absentee : Revanna
Time of voting : 12:15 am to 12:30 am (Thu)
Debate duration : Wed 10:30 am to Thu 12:30 am