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Implications of expanding Indian success in the west - G.Subramaniam - 07-21-2010
I am going to start posting data on the college rate and median family income of the US Indian diaspora, especially the changes each year
Indians seem to be pulling away in front, showing a corelation with IQ
2005 Data
Indian = 68% / $73K
White = 29% / $49K
Chinese = 52% / $59K
Pakistani = 54% / $53K
Indian / White $ = 73 / 49 = 1.49
2006 Data
Indian = 68% / $78K
White = 28% / $51K
Chinese = 51% / $61K
Pakistani = 54% / $55K
Indian / White $ = 78 / 51 = 1.53
2007 Data
Indian = 68% / $83K
White = 29% / $53K
Chinese = 51% / $66K
Pakistani = 57% / $58K
Bangladeshi = 41% / $41K
Indian / White $ = 83 / 53 = 1.57
2008 Data
Indian = 70% / $90K
White = 29% / $55K
Chinese = 55% / $68K
Pakistani = 54% / $60K
Bangladeshi = 49% / $49K
Indian / White $ = 90 / 55 = 1.64
The Indian / White Income ratio has expanded from 1.49 in 2005 to 1.64 in 2008
Implications of expanding Indian success in the west - G.Subramaniam - 07-21-2010
2005 Data
Filipino = 46%, $69K
Japanese = 44%, $55K
Korean = 53%, $48K
2006 Data
Filipino = 47%, $73K
Japanese = 46%, $61K
Korean = 53%, $51K
2007 Data
Filipino = 48%, $77K
Japanese = 47%, $66K
Korean = 53%, $53K
2008 Data
Filipino = 48%, $80K
Japanese = 46%, $62K
Korean = 50%, $54K
Filipinos have a very high income compared to their college rates, since many of them work as nurses
Implications of expanding Indian success in the west - G.Subramaniam - 07-21-2010
doc937\asianrnk.xls
Asian 1980 census by Rank
Median household (dollars)
$22,517 Japanese 1.40
$21,926 Filipino 1.36
$20,598 AsIndian 1.28
$20,231 Asian 1.26
$19,966 Asian/PI 1.24 1.13
$19,561 Chinese 1.21
$19,223 Pakistani 1.19
$18,145 Korean 1.13
$17,680 White 1.10 1.00
Indian $ / White $ = 20598 / 17680 = 1.17
Implications of expanding Indian success in the west - G.Subramaniam - 07-21-2010
Median income, 1989 dollars
Group Income Index (1980)
Indian $44,696 1.42 (1.28)
Filipino $43,780 1.39 (1.36)
Japanese $41,626 1.32 (1.40)
Jewish(LATime)$37,000 1.18
Asian $37,007 1.18
AsianPI $36,784 1.17 (1.24)
Chinese $36,259 1.15 (1.21)
Hawaiian $34,830 1.11
PacIsl $31,980 1.02
White NonH $31,672 1.01
Thai $31,632 1.01
Melanesian $31,450 1.00
White $31,435 1.00
Indian $ / White $ = 44696 / 31435 = 1.42
Implications of expanding Indian success in the west - G.Subramaniam - 07-21-2010
Median household income 2000 Census
California
72,130 Asian Indian
62,143 Filipino
57,431 Chinese
55,577 Japanese
55,366 Asian
53,734 Non-Hispanic White
Indian $ / White $ = 72130 / 53734 = 1.34
Implications of expanding Indian success in the west - G.Subramaniam - 07-21-2010
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Per Capita Income
Ethnicity Income Index
Japanese $19,373 1.21
Indian $17,777 1.11
NHisp White $16,074 1.00
White $15,687 -1.02
Indian $ / White $ = 17777/15687 = 1.13
Implications of expanding Indian success in the west - Guest - 07-22-2010
So in the data "Indian = 70% / $90K" what does 70% and $90K mean? 70% of Indian-origins are college graduates or 70% of Indian-origins earn a median salary of $90K?
Implications of expanding Indian success in the west - G.Subramaniam - 07-22-2010
American family income by ethnic group as a percentage of the
National average from Thomas Sowell's _Markets and Minorities_ which
cites the US Bureau of the Census and the National Jewish Population
Study (whatever that is), (1.72 compares to 1.18 for LA Times survey)
W1.0 J1.72 Ch1.12 In1.42(90 census)
Average 100
Jewish 172
Japanese 132
Polish 115
Chinese 112
Italian 112
German 107
Irish 102
Filipino 99
West Indian 94
Mexican 76
Puerto Rican 63
Black 62
Amer. Indian 60
Implications of expanding Indian success in the west - G.Subramaniam - 07-22-2010
[quote name='Swamy G' date='22 July 2010 - 12:36 AM' timestamp='1279738731' post='107563']
So in the data "Indian = 70% / $90K" what does 70% and $90K mean? 70% of Indian-origins are college graduates or 70% of Indian-origins earn a median salary of $90K?
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70% of Indian Americans have a 4 year or more college degree
And MEDIAN Indian Household Income is $90K
MEDIAN ignores the gas station attendants and the MDs at either end and they dont affect the median at
all
Implications of expanding Indian success in the west - G.Subramaniam - 07-22-2010
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/31/AR2007053102433_3.html?hpid=topnews
recently queried 50 medical schools and calculated that 12 percent of the class that entered in 2006 is of Indian heritage
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Already, in med school admissions, mainly white admissions officers are bitching about too many Indians
We can expect to see a quota imposed indirectly against Indians
Fled a quota in India to run into another quota here, due to same reason of superior IQ
Med school is slightly different than Ivy League Univ, you can always try for tier 2 if blocked by quota, but Med school slots are deliberately limited
Implications of expanding Indian success in the west - G.Subramaniam - 07-22-2010
Assume 50% of Asian MD are Indian
2006
Total MD = 17361
Asian MD = 3314
Indian MD = 1657, 9.5%
2007
Total MD = 17759
Asian MD = 3609
Indian MD = 1805, 10.1%
2008
Total MD = 18036
Asian MD = 3620
Indian MD = 1810, 10%
2009
Total MD = 18390
Asian MD = 3763
Indian MD = 1880, 10.2%
Implications of expanding Indian success in the west - Guest - 07-22-2010
So the data is just for the College graduates of Indian origins. Why leave out people who are not College graduates? And I hope the data for rest of the crowd also includes only college graduates.
Implications of expanding Indian success in the west - G.Subramaniam - 07-23-2010
[quote name='Swamy G' date='22 July 2010 - 10:41 PM' timestamp='1279818222' post='107570']
So the data is just for the College graduates of Indian origins. Why leave out people who are not College graduates? And I hope the data for rest of the crowd also includes only college graduates.
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The college graduate data is important, because the first generation college grad rate of 70% and the second gen of 65%
is higher than the jewish rate of 60%
For a variety of reasons, starting from anti-Hindu media due to EJ, colonialists and so on
This is flying under the radar
Hindus are generally absent from the western public consciousness
What happens when this starts to sink into their consciousness that a colored people are visibly superior
There was severe anti-semitism against jews, until after the holocaust, it became unfashionable
I am expecting just plain jealousy to kick in, leading to more dot-buster like scenario
Last month, Professor Divyendu Sinha was beaten to death in front of his house by a combined black-white
high school athletes
Implications of expanding Indian success in the west - agnivayu - 07-23-2010
I agree with you 100%. I can see Indians (especially Hindus) getting targeted in the future due to jealously. According to the Western Caste system, every race has it's place and the hierarchy correlates directly with skin color. This is most easily seen in the Latin American casta system, where Whites control politics and the wealth and it goes down from there with the darkest (and least European) skin color races at the bottom.
Note that when the West imposed it's caste system on Indians, it tried to make it seem indigenous by stating that Varna is skin color, which is ludicrous as Varna is not skin color, but in Western eyes EVERYTHING is skin color (especially in the 19th century with the White man's burden and all)
Indians though darker skinned than Whites, but being as intelligent will be a tough pill for many to swallow. Even today, in the IQ and race tests, Whites and East Asians are shown high, but Indians are not. This is done even though Indians have the highest income in the U.S.. The U.S. arguably is a "testing ground" for all races as the conditions are equal for everyone (factors out economic policy, politics, war etc..)
Implications of expanding Indian success in the west - G.Subramaniam - 07-23-2010
[quote name='agnivayu' date='23 July 2010 - 06:26 AM' timestamp='1279846125' post='107576']
I agree with you 100%. I can see Indians (especially Hindus) getting targeted in the future due to jealously. According to the Western Caste system, every race has it's place and the hierarchy correlates directly with skin color. This is most easily seen in the Latin American casta system, where Whites control politics and the wealth and it goes down from there with the darkest (and least European) skin color races at the bottom.
Note that when the West imposed it's caste system on Indians, it tried to make it seem indigenous by stating that Varna is skin color, which is ludicrous as Varna is not skin color, but in Western eyes EVERYTHING is skin color (especially in the 19th century with the White man's burden and all)
Indians though darker skinned than Whites, but being as intelligent will be a tough pill for many to swallow. Even today, in the IQ and race tests, Whites and East Asians are shown high, but Indians are not. This is done even though Indians have the highest income in the U.S.. The U.S. arguably is a "testing ground" for all races as the conditions are equal for everyone (factors out economic policy, politics, war etc..)
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In the USA, deriving IQ from medical school data
Indians are 112, Chinese are 106, Whites are 100
Median Hindu income is greater than Median jewish income
Dark Pagans being superior IQ will cause severe cognitive dissonance
Implications of expanding Indian success in the west - agnivayu - 07-23-2010
[quote name='G.Subramaniam' date='23 July 2010 - 06:36 AM' timestamp='1279846730' post='107577']
In the USA, deriving IQ from medical school data
Indians are 112, Chinese are 106, Whites are 100
Median Hindu income is greater than Median jewish income
Dark Pagans being superior IQ will cause severe cognitive dissonance
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That's the single main reason why many White's don't like Indians. They are still in the puzzled/shock stage right now, but we are starting to enter the stage where they are accepting that reality and seeing Indians as a threat. Fortunately the "Yellow peril" mentality keeps them focused more on the Chinese.
Implications of expanding Indian success in the west - G.Subramaniam - 07-23-2010
Outsourcing is taking away the white upper middle class jobs
A large amount of lawyer jobs are going away
Lots of Hollywood graphics design work is being done in India
As far as the western upper middle class - middle class, they really dont realise
how much is going away, has gone away
The mass manufacturing in China has only affected the blue collar class,
whereas, the white collar jobs are being sucked away
Implications of expanding Indian success in the west - G.Subramaniam - 07-23-2010
What happens when a western lawyer finds out after law school of 3 years and $100K debt,
that most lawyer jobs have gone to India
Implications of expanding Indian success in the west - HareKrishna - 07-23-2010
[quote name='G.Subramaniam' date='23 July 2010 - 06:36 AM' timestamp='1279846730' post='107577']
In the USA, deriving IQ from medical school data
Indians are 112, Chinese are 106, Whites are 100
Median Hindu income is greater than Median jewish income
Dark Pagans being superior IQ will cause severe cognitive dissonance
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There is no white oppression in America.Black and amerindiands are poor because their low iq.
The superior iq of jews and chinese from Malaysia is bigger then that of oppressors and allow them to go around oppression.
Indians dont have iq of 112,only is IT graduates have and maybe brahmins.
Indians have only good memory,not big iq.
Is a good thing that europeans decrease in number.The problem is that tropicals make many childrens and suffocate the planet.
Europeans should forbid the migrations of tropicals(and allowed only under certain conditions)'and mimic the Japanese and start making robots .If tropicals don't want to decrease their number of childrens,forced sterilization could be a solution.
Implications of expanding Indian success in the west - G.Subramaniam - 07-23-2010
[quote name='HareKrishna' date='23 July 2010 - 05:37 PM' timestamp='1279886344' post='107586']
There is no white oppression in America.Black and amerindiands are poor because their low iq.
The superior iq of jews and chinese from Malaysia is bigger then that of oppressors and allow them to go around oppression.
Indians dont have iq of 112,only is IT graduates have and maybe brahmins.
Indians have only good memory,not big iq.
Is a good thing that europeans decrease in number.The problem is that tropicals make many childrens and suffocate the planet.
Europeans should forbid the migrations of tropicals(and allowed only under certain conditions)'and mimic the Japanese and start making robots .If tropicals don't want to decrease their number of childrens,forced sterilization could be a solution.
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The combined Indian diaspora in the USA is 112, as from several studies
Med school data, Reverse digit span test