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Christian Subversion And Missionary Activities - 6 - Husky - 02-17-2010

Especially the bits highlighted in blue and red in the 2nd half of the pasted article, which are about how Constantine's Laws instituted the diplomatic immunity that the criminal christian clergy (and "education") enjoys to this day even in court. Interesting court system in America...



http://haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=10428&SKIN=C

Quote:Never ending sexual crimes of Christians clergies and teachers on children!

16/02/2010 15:43:13





Written by



[color="#0000FF"]Hans Atrott (from Klaipéda, Lithuania), author of „Jesus‘ Bluff – The Universal Scandal of the World“[/color] ( PublishAmerica,Baltimore, MD, USA, 2009, 583 p) info@yeshu.net





· [color="#FF0000"]Crimes of Abuse on children[/color] already reported from Christian “Apostles”, i.e., [color="#FF0000"]is as „old“ as Christianity is[/color]



· Pope’s Declaration of wanting to prevent Abuses of (Christian) children is just a Fuss of Perfidy–



· [color="#FF0000"]SRICTLY BAN Christian clergies and teachers from children’s education – the risk of sexual crimes on them is likely[/color]


[color="#800080"](Exactly.)[/color]





At present, Catholic Irish bishops are gathering with the pope in the Vatican on account of an Irish report proving that in Christian-Irish orphanages sexual abuse and rape of children by Christian clergies was the rule, in fact, for decades if not centuries. A victim called that what he had to suffer in Nazi camps during WW II “a tea party” compared to the “love” he had to endure by Christian clergies.[ i]



At the same time, in Germany Catholic schools admit the same crimes on hundreds of children entrusted to them for education. We know that already in the U.S.A., Catholic sect paid hundreds of millions of US-Dollars in order to free itself from becoming prosecuted by the law enforcement authorities. Indictments on Christian clergies because of sexual abuses are also reported from Australia and France. From other Christianly conditioned countries, there are no such reports because the Christian clergies (argot: „good shepherds“) do not commit those crimes but because Christian sect can provide impunity to itself as it could do so in Australia, North America, Ireland, France or Germany, in former times. Where there is Christianity, crimes of sexual abuse are the rule and the absence of such crimes an exception…



Sexual misdemeanor and crimes are as „old“ as Christianity is. Already, Christian Eucharist of very early Christians was known as sexual scandals so that several Christian councils even forbade it.[ii]- There are early Christian – not Pagan or anti-Christian – scriptures like, for example, „The Acts of Peter“ relating that the little daughter of a gardener became entrusted to religious lessons to Simon Peter. Suddenly, she was found as a corpse. The „St.“ Murderer afterward praises her death, e.g. by alleging what seductions (of Satan) the girl now becomes spared by being dead...[iii] Christian criminals and murderers not only as “benefactors” but even as “saints” …! The Christian „saint“ (Simon Peter) also murdered because of greediness. According to Ac 5:1-10 a couple (Hananias and Saphira) Peter murdered since they did not deliver all their properties to (greedy) Christian sect. Sexual misdemeanor even is reported from Jesus „Christ“. In the second century, a sexual licentious Christian sect („The Carpocratians“) in Egypt referred its sexual wantonness to the original gospels of Mark in which Jesus was reported having spent a night as „naked man with naked man“. Clement of Alexandria (150-215) contests this information but advises his fellow Christian even to perjure that „The secret Gospel of Mark“ was written by the „apostle“ Mark…[iv] He did not do so by dicing… In 1945 a lot of suppressed early Christian scriptures were detected in Nag Hammadi (Egypt). Christian sect tries diverting attention from these debunking scriptures by fervently „discussing“ the scrolls of Quran. The latter have nothing to do with Christianity (but with Judaism). Among the redetected Nag Hammadi scriptures, there is one reporting how the left eleven disciples visited her boss lonely hiding on an Isle presumably in the Mediterranean Sea as pearl seller while he was lied having ascended into heaven “to god’s right”... Even there, he did not do it without a young boy.[v]



The Christian „martyrs of the truths“ have been sexual criminals since ever, from the outset, i.e. even the founders of this sect are sexual criminals. [color="#0000FF"]Early Christians rightly were regarded as a dangerous species of criminals until Christian emperor bestowed impunity to them. In addition he handed over social buisiness to Christian sect. Hereby, Constantine deliberately wanted felons to appear as "upholders of moral standards" or the evildoers as “benefactors” to "the poor in spirit" (Mt 5:13). Today, it is a milestone regarding efficiency of Christian conditioning of humans. In many Christianly conditioned countries at least regarding sexual criminality, the slaves (argot: „sheep“) do not accept impunity for their slaveholders (argot: „Good Shepherds“). At least partly, Christianly conditioned countries do not accept impunity for Christian clergies and teachers, whereas other parts still are doing. The latter are the countries, e.g. in Southern Europe, Latin America or Africa, that do not report those Christians’ crimes. When Christian emperor Constantine in 305 made Christianity the only allowed religion in ancient Rome, he successfully turned the Christian clergies‘ reputation from felons to „martyrs of the truths“ and „preachers of love“ by bestowing impunity to them and punishment of "blasmphemy" to those who did not cringe before those furtive criminals....[vi] Constantine forbade the courts to rule against the statement of a Christian clergy.[vii] This impunity for Christian criminals worked for millennia and even in those countries like, for example, in the U.S.A. of the 20th century. The U.S.A. is used to praising itself as a role model for democracy. For instance, in the 1960ties there was a murder on several colored people in Birmingham (Alabama, U.S.A.). Among the murderers, there was a Christian clergy. The murderers became acquitted because the members of the jury took the view that a Christian priest cannot become condemned of murder, even if he commits a murder (in recent years the case became reopen and the clergy – now more than eighty years of age – became a life sentence…). Those who have fallen for this sophisticated Christian sham are surprised of that what they hear today, e.g. the immense sexual crimes of Christian clergies and teachers.[/color]

[color="#800080"](The faithful christian emperor Constantine's laws still apply. So many of his laws still apply.)[/color]



This sort of impunity even is refused in Ireland, today. For Christian sect, it is a completely new situation. The pope affirmations to impede those crimes in future are ridiculous and the usual fuss of perfidy that shall make "the poor in spirit" (Mt 5:3) to trust in their evildoers... [color="#FF0000"]As long as there will be Christianity, there will be crimes, especially, sexual ones.[/color] [color="#0000FF"]Only impunity can render the impression of „martyrs for the truths“ and “benefactors” to Christian clergies…[/color] [color="#FF0000"]In a sense, the Christian sect still enjoys impunity[/color]. If they could accuse their rivals, e.g. the Muslims, Hindu, Scientology Church or Freethinkers etc. of such crimes, they (the Christian “good shepherds”) are used to perpetrating, they certainly would not only demand that those rivals are to ban from children’s education and the social buisiness but also become forbidden as organized crime… Although the pope on March 12, 2000, admitted crimes outdoing all other organized crimes together, the Christians, nevertheless, are presume to prohibit Scientology Church and Asian religions in France and Germany. By the way, if the French fairly would apply their new law on religions, the first sect that is to prohibit would be Christianity… [color="#0000FF"]Protect our children from sexual abuse first means to ban Christian educational and social facilities…[/color] [color="#FF0000"]The sexual abuse is perpetrated too often as one can call it a (single) vitiation of Christianity.[/color] On the other hand, the Germans even punish John Bull if he inadvertently stumbles upon a web page showing child pornography. However, nothing happens to the Christian criminals abusing children, really and not only virtually. Punishment becomes replaced by words of hypocrisy and perfidy that the criminals never will do it, again -- what they always are used to feigning... [color="#0000FF"]Criminals are also those who allow, provide and finance "fresh flesh", i.e. children, for the Christian sexual abusers, although knowing the risk. It is a matter of course, that the Christians – very deft at perfidy -- will affirm that they never will do again what they committed and are going to perpetrate… It’s always the same old story.[/color] Detailed information how Christian (sexual and other sorts of) criminals became “upholders of moral standards” in the book of Hans Atrott “Jesus Bluff – The UniversalScandal of the World”.[viii]





Annotations:



[ i] See: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article6381318.ece



[ii] G. W. Foote AND J. M. Wheeler say: “Even in the time of Paul the celebration of the Eucharist was the occasion of some scandal.” “Trials took place before competent tribunals, and the Christians were punished. When we know that the Agape were prohibited by several councils because of the scandals to which they gave rise, it is difficult to exonerate the early Christians from these grave charges. “ Ibidem



[iii] THE ACTS OF PETER, From "The Apocryphal New Testament", M.R. James, Translation and Notes Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1924, Chapter II. On: http://wesley.nnu.edu/biblical_studies/noncanon/acts/actpete.htm, see also: www.bare-jesus.net/e4032.htm



[iv] See: The Secret Gospel of Mark, ed. by THE GNOSTIC SOCIETY LIBRARY, Gnostic Scriptures and Fragments, on: http://web.archive.org/web/20001209003700/gnosis.org/library/secm.htm, last call:10/02/2008



[v] Ed. THE GNOSTIC SOCIETY LIBRARY, The Nag Hammadi Library, The Acts of Peter and the Twelve Apostle, Translated by Douglas M. Parrott and R. McL.Wilson, on: http://web.archive.org/web/20001209003700/gnosis.org/naghamm/actp.html



[color="#0000FF"][vi] G. W. Foote AND J. M. Wheeler say: “He (Constantine) gave to the bishops the privilege of being tried by their peers, and their episcopal brethren were their judges even when they were charged with a capital crime. He originated the notion that clerical impunity was better than a public scandal, and declared that if he surprised a bishop in the act of adultery, he would cast his imperial mantle over the holy sinner. Montesquieu alleges that Constantine even ordained that, in the legal courts, the single testimony of a bishop should suffice, without hearing other witnesses.” Crimes of Christianity, vol. 1, chapter: 1,London, Progressive Publishing Company, 1887, electronically published on: http://www.ftarchives.net/foote/crimes/c1.htm -

[/color][color="#800080"](The bold bit is confirmed by Joseph Wheless who quotes from the Laws of Constantine. See below.)[/color]



[vii] See: Ibidem



[viii] H. Atrott, Jesus’ Bluff – The Universal Scandal of the World (M. Magnes)”, on: www.publishamerica.net/product 87475.html
Exactly. Keep kids away from christianism (=terrorism) and christians.



Confirmation for Montesquieu's statement from Foote & Wheeler that "Montesquieu alleges that Constantine even ordained that, in the legal courts, the single testimony of a bishop should suffice, without hearing other witnesses" comes from another source that quotes directly from orders issued by Constantine:

http://freetruth.50webs.org/B3b.htm

Quote:From Forgery in Christianity, by Joseph Wheless:

[...]

Laws of Constantine

[...]

Quote:[Besides the] laws for the redress of injuries done to Christians; such as release of prisoners and those in servitude, and the restoration of property

- "The Church is the heir of those who leave no kindred; and free gifts to it are confirmed";



- "Those who have purchased property belonging to the Church or received it as a gift, are to restore it." (Eusebius, Vita Constantine, N&PNF. Bk. II, chs. xxiv-xliii.)



- "Granting Money to the Churches." (Ib. Bk, x, ch. vi.)



- "Catholic Clergy exempt from Certain Civic Duties." (Code Theod. xvi, 2, 1; 313.)



- "The Catholic Church freed from Tribute." (Id. xi, 1, 1; 815.) "Clergymen freed from Financial Burdens." (Id. xvi, 2, 2; 319.) "The Church allowed to Receive Bequests." (Id. xvi, 2, 4; 321.)



[color="#0000FF"]- "Bishop's Powers as Judges and Witnesses": "Whatever may be settled by a sentence of bishops shall ever be held as sacred and venerable ... All testimony given, even by a single bishop, shall be accepted without hesitation, by every judge, neither shall the testimony of any other witness be heard, when the testimony of a bishop is brought forward by either party"! (Const. Sirm. i; 333.)[/color]



- "The Day of the Sun a Time of Rest." "All judges, and city folk and all craftsmen shall rest on the venerated day of the Sun." (Cod. Just. iii, 12, 2; 321.)

[color="#800080"](Already creeping up on Sol Invictus' day to convert it to non-existent jeebus' day, as would happen not long after.)[/color]



Why do Hindus put up with christianism: why are Hindus such push-overs when it comes to exposing christianism? (Although I will admit that Hindus and other Dharmics are better than other Indians when it comes to the sham.)

As far as I can tell, only Hellenes and the Lithuanian of the above article are still willing to openly expose christianism, completely, whole-heartedly, with no mistaken notions of sparing it ("poor christianism"). The Hellenes especially continue to do an amazing job even today.



There appears to be no fight in Hindus. And when there is, it's not the right kind of fight. And then it's not the right sort of reasoning. Not the right points of criticism, not the right arguments.



Hindus need not re-invent the wheel. Others have done all the work before us, and have never been gainsaid - only silenced in the fires, where their books, their words, were burned, though some survived in excerpts against christianism's will.

Need just repeat them.

People more knowledgeable said what needed to be said. Ought to grab the pieces that remain, fill in the blanks with the obvious and Repeat. The arguments will never be more accurate, more authentic, more effective - more heathen. They say what Hindu voices ought to have said of their own accord - but which Hindus today are too christo-conditioned to be able to come upon, let alone say.



I so wish Hindus would stop playing cowards, stop silencing themselves and each other.

That the pseculars are irrecoverable cowards everyone knows (secularism is invisible christianism; it is mental dhimmitude=mental submission/succumbing to christianism). And I expect nothing of "Indians" or the "nationalism is the new national religion - unity at all costs" types. Nor of the kind that selectively blames "white christians" and "white christianism" (the who and the what? <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' />) - they could not be more wrong.

All the original heathen voices that denied christianism were what the obviously christoconditioned (and they alone) would call "white". *Actually*, they're ancient GrecoRomans - called *Hellenes*. And no better voices have been heard against christianism. And no better minds have arrayed themselves against it. And this too is not because of them coincidentally being brandable as "white" today. It is because of their being consciously, unapologetically, fully, unsubvertedly heathen. Unconverted; not the least bit of their minds conquered by and into christianism even subconsciously.





Have no expectations of others. But Hindus, Dharmics... why the cowardice? Why the succumbing to secularism=protectionism of christianism? Why accuse all that is peripheral, all except christianism - the core itself? Why do they silence themselves.

One day Hindus may have no right to say it - just as how one day the GrecoRomans ceased to have the right to say it. Because Night Falls Fast.

So ought to say it while they can. The freedom to expose it exists only while Dharmic India is unconverted (once Constantine is done transforming the nation, there is no going back).



Christ=christianism is a genocidal lie. Jesus christ never existed. Christianism is terrorism.



Or, as the professional said so much better, even in translation to English -

Emperor Julian opens his Contra Galilaeos (Against the Jeebus-peddlers) with (repeat):

Quote:"It is, I think, expedient to set forth to all mankind the reasons by which I was convinced that the fabrication of the Galilaeans [color="#800080"](=Julian's term for christians)[/color] is a fiction of men composed by wickedness."
And later in the same text he writes:

Quote:"But if you can show me that one of these men [Jesus, Paul, etc.] is mentioned by the well known writers of that time, -these events happened in the reign of Tiberius or Claudius-, then you may consider that I speak falsely about all matters."
Somethings are worth parroting.


Christian Subversion And Missionary Activities - 6 - HareKrishna - 02-18-2010

A report of the Committee on Preventing abuse of children in Ireland has revealed a terrible truth: more than 30,000 children in orphanages run by the Irish Catholic church have been sexually abused, beaten and starved by those who must care for them, from childhood to maturity, according to The Times.

Walsh recalls, "They (No - Christian Brothers) were some real men of violence. When we arrived at Artan in 1963, there were 450 boys and violence is felt in the air. House was used as a detention center for juvenile offenders, so I was tortured not only brothers, but also their brutal gangs.



Walsh was sexually abused twice by a Christian Brother. His mother's repeated efforts to free and children were wrongly rejected by the authorities.

http://translate.google.ro/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=ro&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.romanialibera.ro%2Fa154674%2Fabuzul-credintei-batai-si-torturi-sexuale-in-orfelinatele-bisericii.html&sl=ro&tl=en


Christian Subversion And Missionary Activities - 6 - dhu - 02-18-2010

[url="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8521070.stm"]Eight missionaries freed by Haiti back in US[/url]



What, no Bharat Ratna for these guys?


Christian Subversion And Missionary Activities - 6 - Husky - 02-19-2010

Funny I suppose. But wrong. Because jeebus never existed.



Quote:Elton John says Jesus was gay

The openly gay muso says he is convinced Jesus was a gay man

http://entertainment.msn.co.nz/blog.aspx?blogentryid=601475&showcomments=true

Quote:Elton John thinks "Jesus was gay"



Image: Getty

This should rattle some good old fashioned Christian outrage over at the Vatican and throughout middle America... Elton John reckons Jesus was a gay man.



In an interview with Parade magazine, the openly gay muso says, "I think Jesus was a compassionate <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':o' /> , super-intelligent <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' /> gay man who understood human problems <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />.

On the cross, he forgave the people who crucified him. Jesus wanted us to be loving and forgiving. [color="#800080"](But of course non-existent jeebus was compassionate: he *started* the trend of threatening with eternal hellfire, which has ever since been Da Christian Definition And Example of Loving & Forgiving.)[/color] I don't know what makes people so cruel. Try being a gay woman in the Middle East — you're as good as dead."

[color="#800080"](Elton's more than a bit shortsighted: "Try being a gay woman in the Middle East — you're as good as dead." Why so selective? As I recall from film class, Boys Don't Cry was based on some true life story in *America* not the ME. Etc. The impression one can't fail to get is that gay persons are in trouble anywhere where the christoislamis are gathered in majoritas. That's 'cause gawd=jeebus via its word/the babble - e.g. Leviticus - shows how it hates gay people as much as islam/allah does. Elton is simply in denial.

But why not consider the more populous victims: kids are more threatened by christoislamism than gay people are, with christoislamic pervs' shadows lurking around every corner. And not a few victimised children have ended up dead.



And perhaps Elton should just stick to singing encores, instead of venturing into thinking out loud his opinions on biblical hystery with statements like "On the cross ... jeebus ... crucified". Uh No. The babble had jeebus *staked*.)[/color]



Elton probably knows his statement will have some Christians calling for his head (much like when the Beatles claimed they were "bigger than Jesus") but he obviously had a point to make, and publicity to grab.
I'm not the least bit surprised that to Elton John jeebus is gay. There's a gospel for all - because the audience comprises all sorts of gullibles.



Dejavoodoo:

Jeebus keeps morphing and morphing: since the babble is open to re-interpretation for the times and the (target) audience, jeebus can be transformed into whoever the Maddening Crowd wants him to be. And so you get jeebus the Oryan Ur-Nazi man, jeebus the ur-communist man, jeebus the African rebellious 'slave' man (in recent years there was mention of a S African film made by a European African with an indigenous African playing jeebus - note the influential invisible puppeteer behind the camera directing both the puppet actor and the emotions/ideology of the puppet audience), jeebus the every-man, jeebus the liberation theologian man, jeebus the dalit man, jeebus the hippy "can't we all just make luvv not war" gay man, jeebus the Roman-looking anti-Judaic Jewish Rabbi man (yeah that one too), jeebus the zealot Jewish man, jeebus the married family man, jeebus the Greek/Indian type philosopher/ascetic man (as His Non-Existence is to some modern deluded fruitcakes among angelsk-speaking Indians), jeebus the "I've been to Kashmir and Japan and all I got was this lousy T-shirt" man...



Have set the alarm to wake me when jeebus is declared a lesbian feminist wo-man. At least then I may act surprised - for a fraction. Or not:

Jeebus: long dress - check. Long hair - check. Beard (that's one of the American stereotypes for lesbians isn't it) - check. Talks/preaches a lot along with the unpredictable tantrums of female stereotype (jeebus at the Jewish Temple market etc) - check, check.

And now let's try some feminist takes - their signature is so easy to imitate. Am just going to project various general feminist claims and scenarios I've heard onto the biblical NT soap-opera. See how well it fits:

Judas the spurned jealous male lover who betrayed the feminist lesbian object of desire who had only let him kiss her on the cheek - check. Jeebus the She who got staked, since of course revolutionary women are suppressed by jealous evil male heathen (here: Roman) misogynistic patriarchy - check. Jeebus the She got turned into the He by the Male History rewrite in order to appropriate his Female Identity for propping up Male Power by writing out the Female Pivot from History - check. This was followed by XY00 years of oppression of females until jeebus' Second Coming started the Women's Lib And Feminism. Check.



Done. Next. Jeebus the E.T. Oh wait, nothing novel, Contact etc. already touched on that.



See, anything is possible with jeebus. Now can we move on?



Hey, here's something:

Jeebus the manufactured viral strain.

Finally. The facts. Facts make for a perfectly reasonable, realistic solution - one that doesn't require even the least amount of faith:

[color="#0000FF"]the non-existent jeebus is a mindvirus.[/color]


Christian Subversion And Missionary Activities - 6 - dhu - 02-21-2010

[url="http://www.ptinews.com/news/527483_Christians--Hindus-clash-in-Batala--curfew-clamped"]Christians, Hindus clash in Batala; curfew clamped[/url]



Quote:Batala (Punjab), Members of Christian and Hindu communities clashed and indulged in vandalising public property here today over publication of a picture of Jesus Christ in an allegedly objectionable manner, prompting authorities to clamp an indefinite curfew.



Police said members of the Christian community took out a protest march through the town during which some of them turned violent and set afire six two-wheelers, damaged three buses, a shopping mall and around 50 shops in different areas.



They were protesting against the publication of a picture of Jesus Christ in a book by a Delhi-based publisher recently which was reproduced in some newspapers in the state.



Protestors belonging to Hindu community also took to the streets and tried to set on fire a church, police said adding, the damage to the place of worship was minimal as the fire brigade and the police reached the spot in time.



Christian Subversion And Missionary Activities - 6 - dhu - 02-22-2010

[url="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ludhiana/Christians-to-continue-peace-march/articleshow/5600529.cms"]Christians to continue peace march[/url]



Quote:Calling for death sentence for accused Dr Pritpal Singh, who had allegedly published the posters, Father Joseph said, “It is not right to make fun of any religion, whether it is Hindu or Christian, as it hurts the sentiments of devotees. Therefore, whoever tries to create tension among communities should be severely punished.”



Christian Subversion And Missionary Activities - 6 - Bharatvarsh2 - 02-22-2010

Quote:The Online Citizen has a long transcript of National Geographic Mark Jacobsen’s interview with Lee Kuan Yew, 6 July 2009. I thought this part about American evangelism interesting and worth highlighting. Lee said pointblank that the rise of evangelical Christianity was “a result of American efforts”.



The conversation led into religion via the question of racial tolerance:

Mr Lee: “Well, it’s the education in the schools and at home partly because we’re such a densely populated kind of buildings, all high rises, so you have got to develop habits which are considerate to your neighbours. If you have loud blaring noise going through the walls, partition walls to the neighbours, they’ll soon complain to the the neighbourhood police or somebody will come up to say will you tone your volume down because you’re waking up the neighbourhood. And they learn to accommodate each other because we don’t allow our ethnic groups to choose to live together. When they are resettled, they have got to ballot for their neighbours, so you get Malays, Indians, Chinese all shuffled around together when in the first generation, they used to sell and relocate themselves, so we have quotas and no precinct should have more than this quota of the population. So in other words, we bring about an integration by spreading them which means we spread them in the schools too.”



Q: “And it’s worked.”



Mr Lee: “It’s worked. And so we have a more homogenous and more homogenous in the sense that they haven’t changed their religions, the Malays are still Muslims and they go to the mosques every Friday and they’ve slightly different habits. The influence from the Middle East has made them have head-dresses for no rhyme or reason.”



Q: “Actually, it’s an interesting question that just came up recently that I was going to ask you about. I know that you put a premium on racial harmony and religious harmony and it’s actually more or less legislated here, right?”



Mr Lee: “Yes, because you can have enormous trouble once religions clash.”



Q: “Well, the two things I’ve been interested to ask you about that because I agree with you is number one, the recent rise of Evangelical Christians in Singapore.”



Mr Lee: “As a result of American efforts.”



Q: “I don’t know if it’s American efforts but I went to the New Creation Church and you might as well have been in Tennessee , it was exactly the same. As soon as you walked through the door, it was exactly the same but it seemed very popular.
Is that a new monkey (?) ranch in there?”



[Yawning Bread: It's a bad transcription. It should have been "monkey wrench"]



Mr Lee: “No, I don’t think so. You see most Chinese here are Buddhists or Taoist ancestor worshippers, I’m one of them, so it is a tolerant society, it says whatever you want to believe in, you go ahead. And these youngsters, the educated ones, Western-educated especially, now they are all English-educated, their mother tongue is the second language. Therefore, they begin to read Western books and Western culture and so on and then the Internet. So they begin to question like in Korea that what is this mumbo-jumbo, the ancestors and so on? The dead have gone, they’re praying before this altar and asking for their blessings and then they have got groups, Christian groups who go out and evangelize. They catch them in their teens, in their late teens when they’re malleable and open to suggestions and then they become very fervent evangelists themselves. My granddaughter is one of them. She’s now 28. My wife used to tell her look, don’t go for any more of these titles, just look for MRS. It’s just around the corner, God will arrange it.”



Q: “Well, in the US, as you say, it’s import from the US or an export. These people have been very politically active.”



Mr Lee: “Well, they know here that if you get politically active, you will incite the Buddhist, the Taoist, the Muslims, the Hindus and others to do similar response. We used to teach in the schools in the 1980s to get back some moral values as a result of Westernisation, Confucian culture as a subject in itself for the Chinese whereupon the Malays, the Indians and so on, they reacted. They wanted not Confucian culture, they wanted their religion, so we decided we’ll stop this.
So we took the concepts of Confucianism and put it into civic subject, that society is more important than the individual, that the individual must care for the society and the interests of the society must take precedence over the individual, which is contrary to the American or Western system which says the individual trumps everything, freedom trumps everything, freedom of speech, freedom of whatever you tolerate even at the expense of making others feel inconvenient. If I don’t like abortion, you’re a doctor who aborts people, I shoot you.”



Q: “That may happen, that’s valid I think there is a rather large emphasis on individual autonomy in Western cultures that is sometimes detrimental to the larger society. But that’s the way you’re brought up, that’s what we’re used to, so it becomes….”



Mr Lee: “No, it’s the philosophy of society you start with. You get all the Kantian theories and the Rousseau and so on, so gradually it evolved and then along comes Maddox and Jefferson’s the right to happiness of the society and so on. So it’s an optimistic sort of approach to life. The Chinese start off with a completely different end of the stick that all men are born the same and you have got to educate them and perfect them, otherwise, they will not improve. So they put a lot of emphasis on upbringing at home and in the schools. Well, we’re losing part of it because the Chinese schools have disappeared. We’re trying to preserve it or introduce it into the English speaking schools but the teachers now are also educated in English speaking schools and have lost the old traditions. So they’re trying to get them to go to China and see how they preserve these qualities. But we find that in the cities, they’re also changing.”



http://yawningbread.wordpress.com/2009/12/31/lee-kuan-yew-on-evangelical-christianity/



Christian Subversion And Missionary Activities - 6 - dhu - 02-23-2010

Power in Punjab

Christians see churches—and opposition—grow among Sikhs

Christianity Today

Quote:"Punjab has had a traumatic 20 years," Dayal said. "Currently there is … joblessness, drug addiction, easy money, and division between Hindus and Sikhs. In search of a path, people are turning to Christ for the healing of body, mind, and soul."



Christian Subversion And Missionary Activities - 6 - dhu - 02-23-2010

These jokers just don't give up...



Quote:[url="http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2010/02/23/woman-questioned-over-haitian-orphans/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_ac360blog+(Blog%3A+AC360)&utm_content=Twitter"]Woman questioned over Haitian orphans[/url]

..

Thacker and the two other women were going to escort six Haitian orphans to the United States to new families, including Thacker's adopted son, Reese.



"I can understand paranoia and absolutely, and I understand there was a story about people illegally taking children out of the country, but fear doesn't justify these actions," Stephanie Anderson, a volunteer who was helping Thacker, told CNN.



On Saturday, the three women were outside the Port-au-Prince airport waiting in line to transport the children in a private plane when, Anderson says, they were surrounded by an angry mob of men demanding to see their paperwork.



"They started screaming at us that they are Haitian children, and who do we think we are taking their kids from their country, and these missionaries can't be stealing kids, and they started swearing and yelling at us," Anderson, who is not a missionary, said.



The police were called in and the women were detained for eight hours, they told CNN.



Now, these are same jokers stating that the Haitians do not actually care for the "adoption" issue; Haitians willingly give up their children, even when they are not orphans.


Christian Subversion And Missionary Activities - 6 - acharya - 02-24-2010

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/religion


Christian Subversion And Missionary Activities - 6 - dhu - 02-25-2010

[url="http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/24/the-missionary-impulse/?hp"]The Missionary Impulse[/url]



Quote:Some of the worst damage was done, the tribes will tell you, long after the Indian wars were over, when missionaries moved in. They broke up families, shipping children off to boarding schools where they were shorn of their language, their hair and their culture. They banned tribal customs like the potlatch — where Indians compete to give away gifts — and spirit rituals that had been passed on for centuries.



Christian Subversion And Missionary Activities - 6 - Husky - 02-26-2010

3 items.



1. http://haindavakeralam.com/HkPage.aspx?PAGEID=10398&SKIN=B

Quote:The lies, deceit and propaganda of Church and Indian Christians

12/02/2010 17:24:47 AS



Rangannath Mishra Commission-PART 2





In the first part I had raised doubts on the 2.3% Christian population of India in 2001 census. Most Secular nee Sickular Hindus will doubt this calling it propaganda of Hindutva, Hindu chauvinism et al. But here are plain facts – [color="#0000FF"]Not so a long ago in Times of India in 2008-09 Christians in Andhra Pradesh demanded quota(Now Andhra Christians demand quota) and said that their population is atleast 12% not 1.1% and it should be ascertained on basis of Church attendance.



Central Kerala- comprising of Ernakulam, Kottayam, Thrissur, Kochi and Alwaye is called Christian belt. In Karnataka Coastal Kanara comprising Mangalore, Karwar, Upudi and other parts of Karnataka such as Shimoga, Mandya Raichur and Davangere have shown far too many churches with crowds on Sundays; native of Bangalore I can safely tell that Christian population in Karnataka is about 4-5% not 3%.



South Tamilnadu has 100% Christian Villages around Nagerkovil, Kanyakumari Dindigul and much of Chennai and Nagapttinam is Christian. I observed as many as 8 Churches in a village and just a small makeshift temple!!!



North East India has 3 Christian Majority states in Nagaland Mizoram and Meghalaya plus Arunachal Pradesh, Manipur and Tripura where Christian Population is well over 10% and increasing(over 30% in Manipur).



Assam has shown a rise in Christian population every decade and Sikkim has a Christian population of 6-7% from under 1% in just a few decades. If people think that rest of India is an aberration its false. Northern India too is under siege eastern UP (Varanasi, Allahabad, Kanpur, Gorakhpur) are poverty ridden districts and sure enough are under siege. The Christian population of UP is atleast twice than 1% official.



South Rajasthan known as tribal belt comprising of Bainswara, Kota, Jodhpur have Christianized hamlets and the population is shown as 1.1% in whole state. MP and Chattisgarh have a record number of Crypto Christians- The population is much higher than 1-3% official claim – the same case in Maharashtra.



We do not need Orissa statistics for Missionary mischief is well known. Jharkhand has 4% official and atleast 10% Christian population with Missionaries wanting Ranchi to be Rome aka of East India. Now further North- Punjab is a Sikh majority state the only one- The Christian population is 1.4% officially with 300% increase from 0.4%- Think again!!!

Hindu/Sikh groups point out that its as much as 5% with almost all of it in villages where Churches replicate Gurudwaras in Gurbaanis (how they replicate Bhajans of Hindus elsewhere). With so much of population the stats show as 2.3%.[/color]

[color="#800080"](A 100 yrs after Constantine - that's decades after Julian, when christian emperors ruled again - Rome finally had 30 million christians. That would be 1/3 christian if one were to assume that Rome was still at the estimated 100 million that it was in Consty's 312. And the demographics got worse and worse until all of the empire was made christian - achieved at the expense of the blood of many GrecoRomans. Then came the conquest of all of Europe for non-existent christ - with a great deal more blood. Then all of Americas and pacific islands - mass genocides. In 20 yrs South Korea came under its thumb - the terrorism is documented. Now large parts of Africa and a silent/crypto spread of the christian disease in Asia, esp. India.)[/color]



Why?



Crypto Christians is answer- many converts do not tell identity for sake of reservation benefits (why you want them when your own institutes have given them by hook or crook). Many so called secular Hindus praise the church in so called service and think “Oh anyway church provides them”. The answer is NO. Christian institutes are “minority institutes” and these so called Minorities control 35% of education in India( almost all in Kerala and NE India) and reservation does not apply here (35% less reservation benefits to SC/ST/OBC Hindus Plus another 10% by other so called minority). They grab OBC quota and ST quota( Proxy way to get into non Christian institution) lay claim to SC quota( More converts); A Christian in a Christian institution getting benefits when he/she converts and pose as a reserved candidate in others. Dual benefits and still they cry more!!



Now if they cite article 14 and deny reservation to come why cry for Scheduled caste status as Christian institutes would never give them in first place- the only benefit here is they can officially claim Christian status and unmask the real Christian identity. The Goal of vision 2020 Asia and Project Thessalonica is to make India at least 10% Christian by 2020. The larger part is to encircle and finish Hindus and their institutes including Temples (Tirupati).



[color="#0000FF"]Christians with Hindu names are very much amongst us like a dormant virus- Names such as Malaika Arora, Pastor Harbhajan Singh( Not the Cricketer), Anil Kant, Vishal Arora, Madhu Chandra, Radha Kanta Nayak (MP), YSR clan are some of people who sound Hindu but are actually Christian; many millions hide their identity and snatch away the rights of reservation for Hindus.[/color] Hindu society has admitted to its sins and is even made amendments by giving reservations for social eqaulity for those oppressed for long and this generation does feel sorry for it. The church promised many a thing to converts since the days of East India company they have never given equal status. Hindus should wake up and agitate before its too late..



(I will continue about Christianity as a large colonial legacy in next part.)

The disease is spreading faster than islam: islam is largely importing terrorism (infiltration); christianism is converting Hindus to terrorism (while it imports islamic terrorism to kill off the inconvertibles).



Hindus never monitor christianism or place it on an equal threat level as islamism. Moreover, Hindus are all infected with protectionism of christianism (aka psecularism) to whatever degree.







2. http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2010/02/more-hanky-panky-by-valson-thampu.html

Quote:Monday, February 22, 2010

more hanky-panky by valson thampu

feb 22nd, 2010



remember thampu (along with that bleeding idiot agnivesh)?



the guy is a complete rogue, ie. the perfect christist. expect him to be on the fast track to sainthood along with k m mani, who grabbed and turned over most of kerala's hill tracts to christists. there will be formal announcements from ratzy soon.



thampu was the guy who got the 'miraculous' phd from allahabad agricultural university just in time to show that he had qualifications to be principal of stephens.



it is believed thampu's phd was in veterinary sciences, about the buggering of farmyard animals. he had gotten wise about buggering little boys because said little boys talk.



http://www.telegraphindia.com/1100223/jsp/nation/story_12140189.jsp

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Posted by nizhal yoddha at 2/22/2010 08:49:00 PM





3. On #204 (where Elton John says 'jeebus is gay').



Here's the next in line explaining why Elton couldn't have been reading the bible to come to his declaration. Note this hate-filled bigot is a different cretin to that other Amrikkkan beauty queen who was mentioned some time back.



http://news.ninemsn.com.au/entertainment/1016724/beauty-queen-cites-bible-for-gay-death

Quote:Beauty queen cites Bible for gay death

14:30 AEST Wed Feb 24 2010

By ninemsn staff



[color="#0000FF"]Another US beauty queen has caused controversy with an anti-gay rant — this time citing Bible passages that call for death to homosexuals.[/color]



Miss Beverly Hills 2010 Lauren Ashley told Fox News she would remain a virgin until marriage and shunned drugs despite partying with the likes of Paris Hilton, but it was her answer to questions about same-sex marriage that attracted the most attention.

[color="#800080"]( <img src='http://www.india-forum.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' /> As easy as it would be for me to comment right here, I'm NOT going to say it.) [/color]



"In Leviticus it says, 'if man lies with mankind as he would lie with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination — they shall surely be put to death and their blood shall be upon them'," she was quoted as saying.



"If (God) says that having sex with someone of the same gender is going to bring death upon you, that's a pretty stern warning … and he knows more than we do about life."


[color="#800080"](When will these mad christwo/men stop threatening people with their non-existent demon called 'gawd'? Then again, they're just parroting said non-existent demon jeebus who issued frequent threats of hell. Lauren thinks to herself "What would jeebus do?" and responds accordingly by quoting Leviticus.)[/color]



Ashley will be competing for the Miss California title that Carrie Prejean carried into the Miss America pageant last year, where she triggered global debate over her objection to gay marriage and got into a verbal war with showbiz blogger Perez Hilton.

[color="#800080"](Carrie Prejean was the name of the previous christian pageant-terrorist who hissed at gay rights. Carrie was also a porn star as the news reports covering the outcome of her lawsuit revealed. Multiple films apparently, not just one as she tried to claim for a while.)[/color]



But despite the press attention, the 23-year-old personal trainer doesn't think her chances of success have been harmed: she [color="#FF0000"]claims[/color] to have many gay friends and denies harbouring hatred.

[color="#800080"](Typically christian claims. It's like how Lauren will next quote from the babble to say "Ethiopians Are The Devil" and then declare she has African friends. Or like that highly-placed catholic priest who came on Canadian TV and declared that he possessed conveniently-unnamed Jewish friends who magically "admitted" to christian libel including that they killed the non-existent jeebus.)[/color]



Ashley even accused Perez Hilton of overreacting and taking Prejean's statement personally.



She has the support of pageant director Keith Lewis, an openly gay man who says personal opinion should have no bearing on the result.



"The Miss California USA system has always had a place for an individual's thoughts and opinions when it comes to all sides of political issues," he was quoted by Fox News as saying.



Lewis also revealed he was writing a book about his experience during the Prejean incident — which he says helped him come to terms with his own sexuality.



"This whole thing made me realise that I had a deep-seated guilt about who I was," he said.
Wow. The biggoted cretin Lauren is not just evil - with Divine Parroting as her greatest talent (=the skill to issue memorised bablical quotes) - but she looks very scary too. Obviously she was beaten with the jeebus stick in all areas. (Pic at link, but only for the foolhardy/the "brave".) But which tasteless person voted her in? I'm feeling kind: maybe Lauren Ugly was the only one from Beverley Hills to enter?


Christian Subversion And Missionary Activities - 6 - Husky - 02-26-2010

4. On the matter of the christoterrorist riots of posts 205 and 206 I think. And also related to the following case of islamania:



[quote name='dhu' date='26 February 2010 - 10:41 PM' timestamp='1267203813' post='104572']

[url="http://http://www.hindu.com/2010/02/26/stories/2010022660870600.htm"] Muslims stage riot against book - Author arrested [/url]

[/quote]Which is about:

Quote:KHAMMAM: Crescent over the world - is a boon or the silent Holocaust, authored by Macha Laxmaiah alias Krantikar, a civil rights activist, caused turmoil in the town on Thursday.
Plus Ilegal Ban on Freedom of Speech and Thought - Part 1 and Part 2 on how "Government of Maharashtra blatantly imposed an illegal ban on the purely academic book on militant Islam authored by the Senior Supreme Court Advocate Sri R.V Bhasin in 2007."



Here's the christist equivalent. Dhu already posted how christoterrorists were demanding the death of Dr Pritpal Singh, I think this is the same case: now they also want the publisher arrested. Soon the Defender Squad Of Hindu Protectionists Of Christianism will come and find how christianism is "still" different from the islamic Danish cartoons madness:



http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2010/02/b-r-haran-pavlovian-reflex-of-these.html

Quote:2 comments:

witan said...



RE: "The “People’s Daily” of Chennai has taken the lead and outshone its competitors in the ‘secular brigade’!"



Also compare (I) and (II):

(I) Arrest warrant issued against Delhi publisher “SHILLONG, Feb 24 – Armed with a Court order, a four-member Meghalaya police team would head for Delhi on Saturday to arrest the owner of Skyline Publisher, Ram Mohan Jha.

“Jha is accused of "outraging religious feelings" after one of his copy books from his publication house depicted Jesus Christ holding a beer can and a cigarette....”




and

(II) [quoted from How to Stifle Speech -- By: Clifford D. May] “Would anyone consider prosecuting a Muslim or an atheist for making hostile comments about Christianity or Jesus or the Bible? In 1987, Andres Serrano offended many people with "Piss Christ," his photograph of a crucifix submerged in a container of urine. Not only was he not prosecuted, he was awarded a prize in a contest sponsored by the National Endowment for the Arts (which speaks volumes not only about American freedom but also about the tastes of the "arts community").”

[color="#800080"](That's just unhygienic yuck. Why can't people just get rid of the fiction that is christ. Instead of insisting on repeatedly drawing attention to it.)[/color]

2/25/2010 1:06 AM



[quote name='Husky' date='17 February 2010 - 08:28 PM' timestamp='1266418257' post='104302']

Have no expectations of others. But Hindus, Dharmics... why the cowardice? Why the succumbing to secularism=protectionism of christianism? Why accuse all that is peripheral, all except christianism - the core itself? Why do they silence themselves.

One day Hindus may have no right to say it - just as how one day the GrecoRomans ceased to have the right to say it. Because Night Falls Fast.

So ought to say it while they can. The freedom to expose it exists only while Dharmic India is unconverted (once Constantine is done transforming the nation, there is no going back).

[/quote]Well, too late.





Meanwhile christians are big supporters of freedom of speech/expression of MF Hussain and of course constantly peddle their hatespeech against Hindus like their pamphlets against Hindu Gods in Karnataka and in TN. And in christomedia TV and newspapers.



Plus I read this comment at HK just a bit back:

http://haindavakeralam.com/HkPage.aspx?PAGEID=10398&SKIN=B

Quote: concerned hindu

12/02/2010 17:58:55 Mockery of Lord Shiva on ZEE TV, Dance India dance

http://danceindiadance.zeetv.com/videos/punit-and-shashank.html



this link is for a video on ZEE TV show Dance India Dance



In this video Ramos D'Souza has made fun of Lord Shiva and Lord Krishna by making a caricature of these Divinities. Ramos is a Christian and he has recently been openly displaying the cross and picturer of Christ on the show, Dance India Dance. What would have happened if he had done this to Muslims. In this dance sequence he has displayed Lord Shiva in a very vulgar manner. Someone should take up this matter. He should apologize to HIndus
I don't watch crap so I can't confirm what was going on in this christo-program "Dance India". But wouldn't be surprised if the comment is correct.

(Interesting that Hindu news presenters stopped wearing pottu/bindi to be psecular, while christist tv entities parade their dead jeebus on sticks to peddle His Non-existence. D'Souza sounds catholic. Opus Dei's PR-for-jeebus dept perhaps?)


Christian Subversion And Missionary Activities - 6 - Bharatvarsh2 - 02-27-2010

D'Souza is most likely a Goan Xtian many of whom long for the good old days of Portuguese rule where they could walk over the Hindu heathens. One can see the filthy lies they repeat on Goanet or some other Goan forum online about Hindus & the reality of Portuguese rule. Some of them even run a couple of fringe secessionist sites claiming that Goa actually belongs to Portugal & justifying the Goan Inquisiton.



One of the biggest drohi's of this kind is the well known "conservative" commentator in the US named Dinesh D'Souza who is an apologist for British & Portuguese colonialism (they banned the "evil" suttee and liberated the native Hindu savages from this practice he claims) of Bharat. He also serves as an apologist for Islamic fanaticism when time permits.


Christian Subversion And Missionary Activities - 6 - agnivayu - 02-27-2010

[quote name='Bharatvarsh2' date='27 February 2010 - 03:25 AM' timestamp='1267220843' post='104576']

D'Souza is most likely a Goan Xtian many of whom long for the good old days of Portuguese rule where they could walk over the Hindu heathens. One can see the filthy lies they repeat on Goanet or some other Goan forum online about Hindus & the reality of Portuguese rule. Some of them even run a couple of fringe secessionist sites claiming that Goa actually belongs to Portugal & justifying the Goan Inquisiton.



One of the biggest drohi's of this kind is the well known "conservative" commentator in the US named Dinesh D'Souza who is an apologist for British & Portuguese colonialism (they banned the "evil" suttee and liberated the native Hindu savages from this practice he claims) of Bharat. He also serves as an apologist for Islamic fanaticism when time permits.

[/quote]



D'Souza is a mad christian militant terrorist. Let him bark all he wants. His Master won't be wielding the big stick like they used to. Actually his heroes like Churchill and Kipling would have considered him a savage. I have a feeling D'souza is half-monkey. I think what he says could be true for him. This monkey was swinging from trees before the White man saved him.



They banned the "evil suttee" but sacrificed 30 million Indians through forced starvation. Very civilized indeed. We don't even need to talk about the crimes of the Portuguese. Bunch of dumb morons worshiping a non-existent dead corpse on a stick. BTW, Portugal is also getting flooded with Muslims/North Africans. Don't worry Mr. D'Souza, your precious UK will have sharia law in 20 years. Remember the two biggest wars of the 20th century was one White Christian shooting at another White Christian. These "civilized" people killed millions of their own people. I think D'Souza has embraced all the highly civilized aspects of Western culture including becoming a castrati.


Christian Subversion And Missionary Activities - 6 - Husky - 02-27-2010

[quote name='Bharatvarsh2' date='27 February 2010 - 03:25 AM' timestamp='1267220843' post='104576']

D'Souza is most likely a Goan Xtian many of whom long for the good old days of Portuguese rule where they could walk over the Hindu heathens. One can see the filthy lies they repeat on Goanet or some other Goan forum online about Hindus & the reality of Portuguese rule. Some of them even run a couple of fringe secessionist sites claiming that Goa actually belongs to Portugal & justifying the Goan Inquisiton.[/quote]Yes, I know, there was a time when I pasted links to those madmen. Especially Lucio - the Artist Formerly Known As Prakash - Mascara~nhas. That christoterrorist nutcase.



Post 215 (Agnivayu):

Quote:They banned the "evil suttee" but sacrificed 30 million Indians through forced starvation. Very civilized indeed.
Figure is much higher:

[quote name='Husky' date='08 March 2009 - 02:51 PM' timestamp='1236503627' post='95291']Sticking to the recorded figures of famines and epidemics introduced from abroad and due to low resistance because of malnutrition:

- Great Bengal Famine of 1769-1770: 10,000,000 victims of famine

- 1800-1900: 25,000,000 to 36 million victims of famine (upper-limit derived from the higher-end estimate of an additional 11 million victims in the famines of 1875-1900 presented in Jabez T. Sunderland's The New Nationalist Movement in India)

- 1930: an estimated 8,000,000 victims of famine

- Bengal Famine 1943-1945: 4,000,000 victims of famine

- 1901: 272,000 died of plague introduced from abroad;

- 1902: 500,000 died of plague;

- 1903: 800,000

- 1904: 1,000,000

- 1918: 12,500,000

[size="5"]TOTAL = [color="#FF0000"]62,720,000 (62.7 million) to ~73.7 million victims of christianism (British Rule) - just counting those genocided by the starvation and diseases it caused.[/color][/size][/quote]Here's the full calculation with sources, posts 37 AND 38. Unless it turns out my maths was wrong - possible - I don't see any mistakes.



Quote:We don't even need to talk about the crimes of the Portuguese.
Has nothing to do with them being "Portuguese". They were christians. That's the only reason. At least by now, Hindus should start to blame what is actually guilty.

Can leave the Portuguese alone. There are Portuguese Hellenes. Their sane, familiar writings show how the difference with christianism is staggering. So it's nothing to do with the Portuguese nationality, their Romance language, their Roman Empire ancestry, their European geography or their olive/other skintones (the connotative "white" accusation). It's everything to do with christianism.





Quote:Don't worry Mr. D'Souza, your precious UK will have sharia law in 20 years.
Ramos D'Souza would be in India I'm guessing. And, sadly, Dinesh D'Souza is hiding out in the US. But Sharia will get him too. That's the nice thing about time. Eventually islam will get all of christianism. Or the crusades will break out again. (One of the two.) But my point was: lots of christoislamics killing each other once more.

It will be the good old days of Trial By Combat again: "proving" the truth of one's religion by whichever side ultimately wins the jihad-crusade. (Like jousting matches were apparently at times used to prove innocence/guilt of heretics or witches. IIRC Ivanhoe? When he championed the Jewess Rebecca against the Templars who wanted to burn her for being a "witch" - and Jewish. Oh forget it.)

Sort of like the Ordeal Tribunals:

http://freetruth.50webs.org/A2b.htm

Quote:Already, ordeal tribunals were making their appearance. During the following six centuries they were held as a final resort for establishing guilt or innocence, under the forms of trial by cold water, by duel, by the fire, by the cross.

"Before my body I throw my warlike shield." (I shouldn't have done that: shouldn't have connected that statement to the preceding. I actually like Macbeth's final little rant before his candle gets snuffed.)


Christian Subversion And Missionary Activities - 6 - Husky - 02-27-2010

On this:

[quote name='Husky' date='26 February 2010 - 11:14 PM' timestamp='1267205795' post='104573']



2. http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2010/02/more-hanky-panky-by-valson-thampu.html



Quote:Monday, February 22, 2010

more hanky-panky by valson thampu

feb 22nd, 2010



[...]

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1100223/jsp/nation/story_12140189.jsp

Quote:Leaked mails suggest Stephen’s foul play

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Posted by nizhal yoddha at 2/22/2010 08:49:00 PM
[/quote]



A new comment:

Quote: witan said...



See this also:

[color="#0000FF"]timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/Thampu-aware-of-church-takeover/articleshow/5137200.cms[/color]

Church ‘takeover’ of St Stephens

Times of India, Monday 19 October 2009

"Even as the principal and faculty members cry foul over the “attempts” of the Church of North India (CNI) to “take control” over St Stephen’s College, documents with The Times of India prove that this move was always on the cards and principal Valson Thampu knew about it. ... § A memorandum signed by Thampu and Bishop Sunil Kumar Singh who is also the chairman of the Supreme Council (SC) and Governing Body (GB) of the college on September 8, 2009 says that both sides would withdraw the ongoing case in the Delhi High Court regarding the principal’s “probation”. Once the MoU was endorsed by the SC three days later, a second document was signed by both clearly spelling out that amendments will be made in the college constitution “to have greater representation from the CNI and to strengthen the influence of the Church over the college.” Two other SC members also signed it."...
Hindus' tax money goes to catholic terrorist centre "college" St Stephen.

Why is tax money supporting a minority institution? (And a terrorists' den what's more?)


Christian Subversion And Missionary Activities - 6 - agnivayu - 02-27-2010

[quote name='Husky' date='27 February 2010 - 07:47 AM' timestamp='1267236556' post='104582']



Ramos D'Souza would be in India I'm guessing. And, sadly, Dinesh D'Souza is hiding out in the US. But Sharia will get him too. That's the nice thing about time. Eventually islam will get all of christianism. Or the crusades will break out again. (One of the two.) But my point was: lots of christoislamics killing each other once more.

It will be the good old days of Trial By Combat again: "proving" the truth of one's religion by whichever side ultimately wins the jihad-crusade. (Like jousting matches were apparently at times used to prove innocence/guilt of heretics or witches. IIRC Ivanhoe? When he championed the Jewess Rebecca against the Templars who wanted to burn her for being a "witch" - and Jewish. Oh forget it.)

Sort of like the Ordeal Tribunals:

http://freetruth.50webs.org/A2b.htm



"Before my body I throw my warlike shield." (I shouldn't have done that: shouldn't have connected that statement to the preceding. I actually like Macbeth's final little rant before his candle gets snuffed.)

[/quote]



DD Souza is a castrato. Castrati's are a fine example of Western Christian superiority. Read about this wonderful cultural practice:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castrati


Christian Subversion And Missionary Activities - 6 - Lalitaditya - 02-27-2010

I saw the Tamil Movie Vinnaidthaandi Varuvaaya yesterday. The movie is a extra-bold Christian attempt at subversion. The heroine is a Mallu Christian and the chauvinism on display is pathetic. They openly denigrate Hindus in the movie to the point that the heroine tells the hero that her father wud never allow her to marry him as he is a Hindu. She made it sound like he was a criminal and he shud hang his head in shame. True to her word her father vows that "I will never allow my dauughter to marry a guy like him and that too a 'Hindu'". The gentle Hindu hero took no offence whatsoever after we are the secular people. The heroine's grandma asks the hero and his friend if they were christians. What trash! I took a look at the credits and was not at all surprised. Half the crew were Christian.


Christian Subversion And Missionary Activities - 6 - Bharatvarsh2 - 02-27-2010

Malayali Xtians are another group with a history of treason.



While the current crop has many converts the original Xtians were the so called Syrian Xtians escaping persecution. They landed in Kerala in 3rd cent CE and found refuge under Hindu rulers.



When Vasco Da Gama came over they went over to him and urged him to destroy the same Hindu rulers who gave them shelter. After they served the Portuguese turned on them since they were not Catholics.



They also made up that bullshit about St. Thomas visiting Kerala and Brahmins killing him.



This is the thanks Hindus got from them for giving them shelter.