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Bomb Blasts In India - 2 - Guest - 09-09-2011

[url="http://www.hindustantimes.com/NIA-widens-probe-after-IM-too-claims-credit-for-Delhi-blast/H1-Article1-743366.aspx"]NIA widens probe after IM too claims credit for Delhi blast[/url]



This is hilarious, Indian Police reacts on the basis of call from terrorist group. Otherwise these useless idiots will be clueless and will catch Sadhus or find somebody from street or fake encounters.


Bomb Blasts In India - 2 - Guest - 09-11-2011

Indian TV was showing victim family anger towards Indian GOvt and Delhi Govt mishandling of victims bodies and openly asking bribe to move body.



Anyone can provide links. This is important to expose disgusting behavior of Indian GOvt and Indian bureaucracy behavior towards victim of terrorism. We know they are shameless but they get embarrassed when outside pick on them.


Bomb Blasts In India - 2 - Guest - 09-11-2011

Indian Govt will not take action against real culprit because it will effect their vote bank in UP.


Bomb Blasts In India - 2 - Husky - 09-13-2011

[quote name='Mudy' date='11 September 2011 - 08:04 AM' timestamp='1315708015' post='112819']

Indian TV was showing victim family anger towards Indian GOvt and Delhi Govt mishandling of victims bodies and openly asking bribe to move body.



Anyone can provide links. This is important to expose disgusting behavior of Indian GOvt and Indian bureaucracy behavior towards victim of terrorism. We know they are shameless but they get embarrassed when outside pick on them.

[/quote]

These sounded related:



news.outlookindia.com/item.aspx?734083

Quote:Sep 12, 2011 Wires



Bodies of HC Blast Victims Handed Over to Relatives

PTI | New Delhi | Sep 08, 2011





Bodies of the 12 people killed in the Delhi High Court blast were today handed over to their relatives after post-mortem.



Police and hospital authorities said post-mortem was conducted during the day after which the bodies were handed over.



Twelve people, including a woman, were killed in the blast outside the high court yesterday morning.



There was some heated arguments at Lady Hardinge Hospital between authorities and relatives of victim Mehtab Singh Dabas when the former allegedly [color="#FF0000"]demanded money[/color] for clothes and polythene for wrapping the body.



87-year-old Nizamuddin was the oldest among those killed in the blast which also claimed the life of a 55-year-old woman Nalini Aggarwal.



The youngest among the victims was 21-year-old Amanpreet from Guru Nanakpura in south-west Delhi.



Another octogenarian killed was Inderpal Singh Anand (80), who resided in Geeta Colony in east Delhi.



The other victims were Darshan Lal Jain (75) from Shalcti Nagar, Harish Dutt Joshi (68) from Naraina, Pawan Bansal (62) from Gurgaon, Mehtab Singh Dabas (57) from Ghewra village, Ashok Kumar Sharma (55) from Palam, Vinod Jeswal (54) from Sarai Rohilla and Veerpal (52) from Gandhi Nagar and Pramod Kumar (40) from HariNagar.

The above is also at www.dnaindia.com/india/report_bodies-of-delhi-high-court-blast-victims-handed-over-to-relatives_1584905



Related:

- in.news.yahoo.com/delay-handing-over-bodies-aggravates-anguish-delhi-blast-111524425.html

Delay in handing over of bodies aggravates anguish of Delhi blast victims' kin

By ANI | ANI – Thu, Sep 8, 2011



- www.indiatvnews.com/news/India/Delhi_Blast_Victim_Relatives_Allege_Harassment_From-10583.html

Quote:Delhi Blast Victim Relatives Allege Harassment From Mortuary Officials

[ Updated 08 Sep 2011, 23:16:10 ]

[color="#800080"][Photo][/color]



New Delhi, Sep 8: The relatives had come to collect the bodies of their loved ones, killed in the Delhi High Court blast, but were entangled in web of bureaucratic formalities at the Sucheta Kripalani hospital's mortuary on Thursday, leading them to give vent to emotional outbursts and some even hurling abuses at the officials.



The relatives accused the hospital authorities of hassling them and delaying handing over the bodies to them.



"First they told me to get a polythene wrapper for the body. Then after 15 minutes, they asked me to get a four metre cloth again to wrap the body. Couldn’t they tell me to get those things at the same time?” said Sukhdev Singh, who had come to collect his friend Inder Singh’s body.



Singh was called at 8 am but only handed over the body at 12:30 noon.



Shiruddin, who had arrived from Uttar Pradesh's Meerut city to collect his father, Nizamuddin’s body, had a similar tale to tell.



“Can’t they even give us a piece of cloth and plastic wrapper? As tax paying citizens, don’t we even deserve that?” he asked.



According to relatives, the hospital was taking more than two hours to release a body.



“They had asked for an identity proof from me almost two hours back and I have no idea when will I get the body,” said Naresh Kumar, a friend of deceased Vir Pal Singh.



The visitors said the hospital staff could have been more sensitive to their feelings.



Aggrieved kith and kin of the victims at the hospital unleashed a wave of anger directed at the government, accusing it of being cold towards their plight.



Shouting slogans, the friends and families of those killed or injured in the incident, voiced their ire at the lack of facilities and organisation at the medical institutions, stressing that hospital authorities were treating them 'like animals'.



In a tone that betrayed a sense of anger and frustration, scores of anxious relatives alleged that there was a state of chaos at the hospitals, with the police and medical authorities not taking steps to address their concerns.



[color="#0000FF"]"The main problem that we are facing is that the people who have been injured or those who have been killed have been placed in rooms and wards like animals. Post-mortem on bodies is not being conducted. Neither the doctors nor the police are cooperating with us. Even the health minister is not helping us," said Vinod Kumar, a relative of one of the blast victims.[/color]



[color="#0000FF"]Meanwhile, in Hyderabad, a group of lawyers held a highly charged demonstration[/color] outside the metropolitan court to demand justice for the blast victims.



Holding posters and placards, hundreds of slogan-shouting lawyers condemned the blast and urged lawmakers to formulate tougher laws against [color="#0000FF"]extremism.[/color]



Lashing out at the Central Government for failing to curb [color="#0000FF"]militancy,[/color] the protesting lawyers demanded the immediate resignation of Union Home Minister P. Chidambaram over the incident.



"We are protesting here to appeal to the government to immediately announce [color="#0000FF"]at least Rs20 lakh as ex-gratia compensation to the families of those killed in the New Delhi blast. The government must also provide employment to one member of every bereaved family," said Wahid Ahmed, a protesting advocate.[/color]



"We also demand the immediate resignation of Home Minister Chidambaram. The government has clearly failed to act on extremism," he added.



Bomb Blasts In India - 2 - ramana - 09-13-2011

Something is very odd with PC claiming no external links otthe Delhi HC blast. Why and what is he trying to say?



Is Gen Padmanabhan's scenario in work? By denying external links he is trying to reduce pressure to get involved?


Bomb Blasts In India - 2 - ramana - 09-15-2011

Pioneer reports:



HC Blast case: Two arrested in Kistawar



Other reports state tehse two are monirs and revealed the whole plot. Five more adults are being sought.



Looks like its a local case related to Afzal guru hanging.



OTH, Omar Abdullah was wrong to claim Kashmiris were innocent and asking other police forces to stop picking on Kashmiris.



Good job NIA once they get the five.


Bomb Blasts In India - 2 - dhu - 09-17-2011

[url="http://www.indianexpress.com/news/six-people-injured-in-agra-hospital-blast/848056/0"]Six people injured in Agra hospital blast[/url]


Bomb Blasts In India - 2 - Guest - 09-18-2011

[quote name='dhu' date='17 September 2011 - 09:35 PM' timestamp='1316275054' post='112904']

[url="http://www.indianexpress.com/news/six-people-injured-in-agra-hospital-blast/848056/0"]Six people injured in Agra hospital blast[/url]

[/quote]

Muslim area. Smells like something else.


Bomb Blasts In India - 2 - Guest - 10-07-2011

[url="http://www.hindustantimes.com/NIA-arrests-Kashmiri-medical-student-in-Delhi-blast-case/H1-Article1-754517.aspx"]NIA arrests Kashmiri medical student in Delhi blast case[/url]

Quote:Wasim was also quizzed about the whereabouts of Hizbul Mujahideen operative Junaid Akram, believed to be one of the key conspirators in the Delhi blast, the sources said.



From the leads emerging in the case so far, the investigators suspect that it could be the handiwork of Pakistan-based terror outfit Hizbul Mujahideen and not Harkat-ul-Jehad-Islami (HuJI) as believed earlier.



Information about Wasim was given by Azhar Ali, an overground worker of Hizb, who is in Kotbalwal Jail in Jammu since 2009,the sources said.



An NIA team had questioned Ali, arrested for being allegedly involved in recruiting people from Kishtawar area besides securing SIM cards for the outfit, to know about some of the youths including Akram he had allegedly sent for training to Pakistan-occupied-Kashmir, the sources said.

HT is using western language (heading)


Bomb Blasts In India - 2 - Guest - 02-14-2012

[url="http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Israel-Iran-battle-spills-on-to-heart-of-Delhi/Article1-810808.aspx"]Israel-Iran battle spills on to heart of Delhi[/url]



Today there was a magnetic car bomb in Delhi. Couple of my observation -



How easy it is for anybody to blast inside Capital next to PM residence and other high profile offices and residence ?

First thing came out of Police/Indian Government was to blame Pakistan. Without any investigation, they just blamed somebody.

It tells how incompetent Indian Government and Law enforcement officials/Babus of India. They were diverting their failure to unfounded entity. It is shameful and confirms that[size="5"] Nobody should trust Indian Government and Babus[/size].


Bomb Blasts In India - 2 - Guest - 02-14-2012

[url="http://dailypioneer.com/pioneer-news/todays-newspaper/42503-high-security-zone-in-tatters.html"]High security zone in tatters[/url]
Quote: Experts pointed out that such a precise attack could be the handiwork of a highly professional international group. “But we don’t rule out local involvement,” added the official.



What has baffled the Delhi Police is that the attacker was smart enough to dodge past high resolution CCTV cameras that are installed in the New Delhi district. Police scanned the footage but the mysterious man who was riding a red-coloured bike was not caught on camera. Police did track down a biker who happened to pass by that road around the same time. He was caught and brought for questioning. However, he was allowed to go as his replies were found satisfactory.

How about checking their own people? How they missed CCTV? It means these CCTV are not installed properly, it means Babus had big payday with CCTV companies.


Bomb Blasts In India - 2 - Guest - 02-14-2012

[url="http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/RestOfAsia/3-explosions-rock-Bangkok-Iranian-bomber-maimed/Article1-811246.aspx"]Thai police claim Bangkok bomber was Iranian[/url]
Quote:An Iranian man was seriously wounded in Bangkok on Tuesday when a bomb he was carrying exploded and blew one of his legs off, police and government officials said, but they declined to speculate on whether he was involved with any militant group.

...

Iran denied involvement in the New Delhi and Tbilisi bombs.

....

Thai police said they were working to make safe an unspecified amount of explosives found in the house, which did not appear to have been badly damaged.

Police said they were looking for two other men who had been living there and they later said they had apprehended one suspect at Bangkok's main Suvarnabhumi airport.



"We discovered the injured man's passport. It's an Iranian passport and he entered the country through Phuket and arrived at Suvarnabhumi Airport on the 8th of this month," Police General Bansiri Prapapat told Reuters.



Bomb Blasts In India - 2 - ramana - 02-15-2012

I think the Tibsli and Delhi attack are not connected. I think the Delhi attack is related to the recent deportation of the two Israelis from Kerala. Kerala is now the hotbed of terrorist activity due to its connections to Gulf countries and a complacent government that does not go after such terrorist cells.


Bomb Blasts In India - 2 - Guest - 02-15-2012

[url="http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Cops-suspect-Hezbollah-link-in-Israel-embassy-car-blast/Article1-811574.aspx"]Cops suspect Hezbollah link in Israel embassy car blast[/url]
Quote:police sources claimed on Tuesday. Sources said the 'sticky bomb' used in the attack was [color="#FF0000"]either smuggled[/color] into the country [color="#FF0000"]"from a foreign country" or indigenously manufactured[/color] by "highly-skilled foreign hands" who "hired" the perpetrator(s)



...



However, investigators are in the dark about the identity of the motorcyclist who had stuck the bomb on the embassy vehicle.



Five persons, who own red motorcycles, were picked up for questioning today.

...



"It seems that the executor wanted to combine the effects of the sticky bomb with that of an Improvised Explosive Device (IED) by turning the car into a car bomb and cause maximum damage to commuters and adjacent buildings," said the officer.



Gupta said investigators were seeking CCTV footage from Israeli embassy and Canadian embassy.



Reading above makes me laugh on Indian Police, either they are incompetent beyond imagination or just damn irresponsible morons.

Till now, they are not able to figure out whether bomb was home made or not. They are unable to get CCTV images.



ramana,

Iran is settling score. It is very easy to attack in India. Appointed PM is sleeping and Babus will get another opportunity to travel abroad for investigation/shopping/meeting with prostitutes.

Ramana, place of attack is heart of Delhi, where you will see useless police roaming around or sitting/smoking on pickets. There are so many barcades all over that area. Lot of Army/Navy offices are around.

[url="http://maps.google.co.in/maps?q=Israel+embassy+New+Delhi&hl=en&hq=Israel+embassy&hnear=New+Delhi,+Delhi&t=m&z=12&vpsrc=0"] Location Map[/url]

Indian Government will do nothing, 1) They will support Iran 2) UP election and Shia votes.

3) Indian Government is incompetent.


Bomb Blasts In India - 2 - ramana - 02-15-2012

Delhi blast attacker may be a local


Bomb Blasts In India - 2 - Guest - 02-16-2012

[quote name='ramana' date='15 February 2012 - 09:00 PM' timestamp='1329319328' post='114443']

Delhi blast attacker may be a local

[/quote]

This is diversion, it means no action towards Iran, they will pickup somebody, wait if they pickup someone linked to Ramdev.


Bomb Blasts In India - 2 - ramana - 02-17-2012

MHA says:



Quote:MHA: Most terror cases have been solved

Under attack by the Opposition over investigations into terror cases, the home ministry tried to put the record straight on Thursday by claiming that 'almost all major terror cases' had been solved.



The BJP had alleged no terror cases have been solved by the investigating agencies in the last eight years.



The ministry said in its statement that more arrests were expected in the terror cases allegedly involving the right wing extremists.



"The National investigation Agency (NIA) has recently arrested Kamal Chouhan and it is expected that more arrests will be made leading to the solving of these cases," the statement said.



The ministry, however, accepted that three terror cases - the 2008 Mehrauli blast, 2006 Jama Masjid blasts in Delhi, and the 2010 Varanasi blast - remain unsolved so far.



Giving an overall picture of the terror cases investigation, the ministry statement said: "Since May, 2000 there have been 46 major terrorist incidents. Of these, all but 7 cases have been solved. In 9 cases, convictions have been obtained. Of the remaining 30 cases, chargesheets have been filed in 29 and trial has commenced in 19 cases. Two cases ended in acquittals."



Bomb Blasts In India - 2 - Guest - 02-22-2012

No news about investigation, everything under rug now. Next week they will come out with some story and case closed by catching Ramdev's chela.


Bomb Blasts In India - 2 - sumishi - 03-04-2012

How about the attack being a CIA/Mossad managed ruse to create fissures between India and Iran to get India on the bandwagon to support the "oh so pious" Western moves against Iran? An example of the Hegelian Dialectic??


Bomb Blasts In India - 2 - Husky - 02-22-2013

Christoislamics (of the islamic subvariety) set off 2 christoislamaniac bomb blasts in what western news openly describes as a Hindu district of Hyderabad.

Current fatality count as per latest western news is at 20 dead (probably all Hindus, and yes, the religious identity of the victims, as of the perpetrators MATTERS).



Older news still cites as "at least 13 dead":

www.nytimes.com/2013/02/22/world/asia/deadly-bombings-hit-southern-india-city.html?_r=0

timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/Hyderabad-struggles-to-shake-off-terror-tag/articleshow/18621292.cms





The crypto-islamic home minister Shinde (who apparently prays at islamic dargahs in Kashmir*, all while screeching at Hindus and Hinduism), along with fellow-islamic Asaduddin Owaisi is busy declaring that people should not jump to conclusions.



[* Although dargahs - as we know from Mali - are idolatrous and halal as per true islamics, and islamics are welcome to demolish them. Including in christoislamic-occupied Hindu India.

After all, dargahs are an internal affair of christoislamania. So if islamaniacs were to blow them up, I don't really need to care.]





www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1739666/20-killed-as-bomb-blasts-hit-India

Quote:20 killed as bomb blasts hit India

22 Feb 2013 - Source: AAP



[color="#800080"][img caption:][/color] At least 20 people have been killed after bombs exploded in the southern Indian city of Hyderabad. (AAP)





Cricket Australia say they're monitoring the situation after two deadly bomb blasts in Hyderabad, the venue for the second Test.



Twin bombings killed at least 20 people on Thursday outside a popular cinema and bus stand in the Indian city of Hyderabad, provoking safety fears among Australia's touring cricket team.



Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said the perpetrators of the "dastardly act" would be punished. It came with the nation on alert after the recent hanging of a separatist unleashed protests in the Muslim-majority region of Kashmir.



The evening bombings targeted a mainly Hindu district in Hyderabad, a hub of India's computing industry in the southern state of Andhra Pradesh which hosts local offices of Google and Microsoft among other Western IT companies.



Witnesses said one of the crude devices went off around 15 yards from the entrance to the Venkatadri Cinema in the popular retail district of Dilsukh Nagar and the second exploded next to a nearby bus stop.



The first explosion went off just as movie-goers were making their way out of the cinema at the end of a show. Some had stopped at food stalls when the deafening blast went off.



A government minister said the bombs, which went off in quick succession, were planted on bicycles. The charred wreckage of parked scooters lay on the ground, mingled with the blood and footwear of victims who included two women.



Doctors struggled to treat a stream of wounded victims as bloodied patients lay on stretchers at city hospitals and anguished relatives clamoured for news of their loved ones, an AFP photographer saw.



Hyderabad is due to host a Test cricket match between Australia and India from March 2 but a statement from the Australian side said it was now in talks with Indian authorities and stressed that the safety of its players was "paramount".



Hyderabad deputy inspector of police Shiv Kumar said there was no doubt that "this is a terror attack" while adding there had been no claim of responsibility.



Twenty people died in the attack, said Kumar, while an officer in the police control room said 82 people had been wounded.



Sreekanth Rao, a doctor at the city's Yashoda hospital, said several of those injured were in a life-threatening condition.



"Five people are being operated on. We had to amputate a 22-year-old woman's leg because that was the only way we could save her," he told AFP.



"This is a dastardly act and the guilty will not go unpunished," Prime Minister Singh said of the attacks, the most serious to hit India since 13 people died in a 2011 bombing outside the High Court in the capital New Delhi.



But Singh also appealed for "calm" in the aftermath of the Hyderabad blasts, as police struggled to keep order with large crowds massing at the scene.



[color="#0000FF"]N. Kiran Reddy, the chief minister of Andhra Pradesh, told reporters in Hyderabad that the blasts were intended to incite communal violence in the city, which has a large Muslim population.



"This attack is only to disturb all communities living in the city. I request people to maintain calm and they should not visit the blast site."[/color]

[color="#800080"](What??? So now the christoislamaniacs didn't do it to blow up the Hindus, but 'only' to incite anger against the christoislamania that blew Hindus up?

Essentially the crypto Kiran Reddy is saying that the Hindus having been murdered - by christoislamania - does not matter. That the christoislamic terrorism should not be punished, but rather that any *communalised* response to the christoislamic terrorism must be suppressed.

But there is one thing that the obvious crypto Kiran Reddy has admitted to: if the bomb blasts and the massacre of Hindus was indeed to incite communal violence between islamics and Hindus in Hyderabad, it must be calculated christian terrorism. Since Hindoos don't blow up Hindus - they even refuse to blow up anyone else, but they certainly wouldn't blow up Hindus.

And as Kiran as implied that it cannot be the islamaniacs, therefore he has indirectly admitted that it must be christians. No? It's either one or the other Kiran, can't have it both ways. It's either a conspiracy to "incite communal violence" btw islamaniacs and Hindus - caused by 3rd party christianism - or it is not a conspiracy and it a straightforward massacre of Hindus by islamaniacs yet again.)[/color]



Foreign Secretary Ranjan Mathai, the top civil servant in India's external affairs ministry, did not rule out foreign involvement.



"I am not sure there is any evidence it could be homegrown terrorism. We have had a number of attacks which have been traced to inspiration or leadership outside the country," he said at a Washington think-tank.

(O for goodness sake. Isn't it a bit premature to start declaring what the evidence - still being gathered - does or does not say about the locus of origin of the terrorist group? All that can be said without a doubt is that the terrorism is christoislamic - that's just a given that is beyond doubt, though the christoislamic brains are no doubt brainstorming on how they can spin this into an inversion as well.

Since the crypto-islamic Shinde - who recently brought up that christist concoction of "Hindu terror" again - will be unable to pin this one on Hindus, and in order to protect the culprit of islamania in this, he will end by desperately and lamely declaring that the Hindus spontaneously combusted here also, just as christoism had declared Hindus had spontaneously combusted when islamaniac terrorists had attacked and set fire to that train in Gujarat.)



Meanwhile, assorted loser "nationalists" allergic to all things called Hindu, will be reiterating that there's no such thing as "Hindus" and hence that no one (identifiable or of any consequence) had died in these terrorist attacks. No?





And oh, can Shinde's daughters (does he have daughters?) be delivered into the hands of love jihadis? (Hey, naturally I disapprove. But desperate times... And rather them than my relatives, nah? Islamania *must* have blood and *will* devour women, after all. And unless sacrifices are offered, it will *take* sacrifices of its own choosing. So better that Hindus give islam the expendables. Since my relatives are Hindu and don't have anti-Hindu dads that are protectionists of islamic terror, whereas Shinde's daughters are the daughters of Shinde, so no doubt he'll be pleased when they are uh wed to islam.) If not, maybe then Shindig will act against islamania, unless by that time he's drooling all over his islamic numerous sons-in-law, in which case, no harm done, right?

(Sort of like how after islamaniac terror blew up the cousin or something of Mira Kamdar, she's not been yelling - as much? - anti-Hindu pro-islamic-terror rants? These people never learn until it hits home. Until then they preach peace to Hindu victims. Then their own loser relatives get the raw end of the deal and it's all not so hot and happening anymore.)



Actually, this is a great idea! Albeit very unethical (but then, the enemy is unethical, and being ignorant of ethics myself :husky:, I am forced to learn it from them.) Hindus should facilitate matchmaking between anti-Hindu (crypto) politicians' female relatives and the love jihadis. Start with that female West Bengali judge or politician or something whom Gautam Sen brought up, the one who overruled Hindu parents protesting abouth their severely under-age Hindu daughter (12 yrs old?) kidnapped by islamaniacs and thus "wed" to islamania, by declaring this was all perfectly legal as this was an 'islamic right': it was in line with sharia for islamaniacs to kidnap, rape and islamise Hindu kaffirs, and unlawful for Hindu parents to protest this. So Hindu activists can start by matchmaking said WB official's daughters into islamaniac love jihadis' hands and let's see how complacent said official is afterwards.

Sure, it's unfair to the daughters. On the other hand, their mother 'raised' them, so there's >90% that they're like her. And the other 10% just underlines that as life is unfair anyway, rather them than anyone I care about. That's the law of life isn't it? Isn't it? I mean, if unfairness is not the unwritten rule of life, why are the innocent terrorised and the terrorists promoted? Hindus owe nothing to do these people. So redirect the love jihad towards the people who Deserve It. At worst, the traitors will be pleased at the matches thus made. At best, their anti-Hindu political relatives will finally start taking action against christoislamania, since the matter would have hit home. Or they will shut up at last (which also counts as a positive development.)



Hindus being incapable of terrorism - having always preferred direct face-to-face warfare (the very opposite of the backstabbing that christoislamania prefers and indulges in), they naturally can't enter into terrorism. Therefore, they need to personally - i.e. actively - ensure that the inevitable love jihads are redirected onto families deserving of this, rather than onto innocent Hindu families. Life may be unfair, but Hindus can even the odds this way, nah? Surely since islamics' love jihad is not even recognised as a crime according to India's christogovt, this means that any Hindus who 'facilitate' love jihad by directing/delivering the offspring of the treacherous into the claws of islam is an even lesser crime? No? (<- Hey, I AM good at ethics after all. See? Who said you can't learn ethics/morality and the other 'humane' stuff from observing the behaviour of christoislamania? I've learnt it so perfectly now.)



"Do unto others before they do unto you." Very biblical (as the babble preaches hypocrisy in practise. Refer to all of history for examples and evidence.)

In other words: Betray the traitors (and their kin) before they betray you (and yours).

I would.