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BJP Future - 6 - Guest - 01-09-2009

<b>I’m dissatisfied with BJP: Kalyan Singh</b>

Excerpt..

....To vent his ire, Kalyan Singh is embarrassing the party by raising the quota within quota policy in the women reservation bill and selection of candidates for the forthcoming Lok Sabha elections. Those watching Kalyan Singh for a long can say he is on the road to rebellion once again - the way he is uttering, the way he is staying away from the official meetings and the way he has confined himself to his residence and avoiding meeting his party leaders.

His veiled support for the Congress-led United Progressive Alliance (UPA) government and its performance on the front of fighting against terrorism and price rise also hints at Kalyan Singh keeping his options open to an extreme end.....


BJP Future - 6 - shamu - 01-10-2009

Looks like there is a lot of anti-BJP psy-ops going on in the media.

Read through the following report and you become suspicious of the whole campaign.

UP could well be the BJP's Waterloo



BJP Future - 6 - Guest - 01-10-2009

Media is working on full throttle.

BJP media management is very poor, they should throw some pieces or supply whores to media, then only they will write something positive.


BJP Future - 6 - Capt M Kumar - 01-10-2009

<!--emo&:clapping--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/clap.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='clap.gif' /><!--endemo--> Modi steals the show at Pravasi conclave

Pioneer News Service | Chennai

Various Indian States on Friday showcased the development and growth that have changed their profile of their states, at the 7th Pravasi Bharatiya Divas. But they had one common message for the Diaspora - recession has not affected the economy of the states in India.

Even states like Bihar and Haryana came up with lists of industrial and social growth that are changing the social and economic structure towards progress. But it was Naredra Modi's "vibrant Gujurat" concept that captivated the delegates. When separate state interactive sessions were conducted, it was Gujarat session that drew the crowd.

In his two speeches that kept the delegates applauding, Modi claimed that Gujurat has become a model state and symbol for growth and development because of his five basic thoughts - holistic, uniform and all-pervasive development; need for a quantum jump and total change, empowering people by making them active partners, public-private participation; and, application of technology to make governance easy. Most projects in the state are through public-private partnership. "This has enabled us to divert public funds into welfare activities," he added.
http://www.dailypioneer.com/148989/Modi-st...i-conclave.html


BJP Future - 6 - Husky - 01-10-2009

Also on Modi:

http://haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=7975&SKIN=B
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Modi: ‘Don’t want certificate from anyone’</b>
09/01/2009 10:41:38  By K Sreedevi @ http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=14833987

Chennai: "No one should preach us secularism and I don't want any certificate from any part of the world." This was the reply from Gujarat chief Minister Narendra Modi to a query about the United States' refusal to issue visa to him.

Interacting with investors at the state session at the seventh Pravasi Bhartiya Divas meet in Chennai, Modi said, "History says secularism is in our blood. We as a community never attack any one, any time, any where. We believe in harmony."

When a delegate queried about the Gujarat communal riots and the subsequent delay in their probe, Modi shot back saying: "Do you think the Centre would have left me like this if they had any proof against me? I have a government that is unfavourable at the Centre and their quietness says it all."

Highlighting Gujarat's progress, Modi said public-private partnership model, people’s involvement and friendly policies were the key factors for the success of his government.

On the judiciary front, there were only 22 lakh cases pending as on date against 45 lakh cases in 2005. By 2010, Gujarat's golden jubilee year, the state aims to achieve zero pendency of cases, he added.

Focussing on the connectivity aspect of the state, Modi said Gujarat was the first in Asia to achieve broadband connectivity in all its 80,000 villages."

"The state was hoping to move towards a 'Rurban model'. Villages to have the infrastructure facility as the cities and cities to have the human aspect of villages. Atma gaon ki magar business sheharon ki (soul of villages but business of cities)," he said.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Good stuff.


BJP Future - 6 - Guest - 01-10-2009

Do the political parties in India have professional campaigners? Or are the campaigns spearheaded by an experienced politician?


BJP Future - 6 - Guest - 01-10-2009

BJP's website: http://www.bjp.org/
& compare with
USA Republican party's website: http://www.rnc.org/
USA Democratic party's website: http://www.democrats.org/index.html

Ignoring the usability, presentation, color themes ithyadi. The focus from BJP seems to be the 3 leaders (all aging). I have nothing against old people, one day I am going to be old too. And I have old parents.

The USA parties' websites seem to be screaming why one should be a liberal or a democrat. It appears that they portray themselves nationally & locally.

I understand Indian politics is quite different from American politics, the issues are different; the people are different. But BJP has to reinvent itself if it wants to be something meaningful down the years.

BJP might realize, just like the INC or other parties, that people vote on caste, religious and local reasons. What appears in the domestic or foreign media does not matter for gaining power. But left unchecked, the domestic media's onslaught against BJP can tarnish the image of the party.

If BJP wins in the general elections, I will bet money that there will be many reports/headlines in the foreign media that will definitely use the words "right wing". Like "Hindu right wing party gains power" or something to that nature. When the Republicans win in USA, it would be just conservatives - not right wing.




BJP Future - 6 - Guest - 01-12-2009

By attacking BJP, Shekawat is making sure he has the support of the Congress for his election to LS just in case he does not get a BJP ticket. He might probably contest as an Independent. He might also set up his friends against BJP. This he would do even if he gets BJP ticket for himself.




BJP Future - 6 - Pandyan - 01-12-2009

<!--QuoteBegin-Swamy G+Jan 10 2009, 11:03 AM-->QUOTE(Swamy G @ Jan 10 2009, 11:03 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->BJP's website: http://www.bjp.org/
& compare with
USA Republican party's website: http://www.rnc.org/
USA Democratic party's website: http://www.democrats.org/index.html
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Wonder why many Indians boast about this nonexistent IT expertise, can't even get a decent website built. BJP webshite looks disgusting.


BJP Future - 6 - Guest - 01-12-2009

I tried to google search for MPs of the BJP and the website www.bjp.org/paip.htm appeared. When I clicked it my security system kicked in to forbid me. It gave me the following reason.

What is the current listing status for 164.100.24.0?

This site is not currently listed as suspicious.

What happened when Google visited this site?

Of the 707 pages we tested on the site over the past 90 days, 133 page(s) resulted in malicious software being downloaded and installed without user consent. The last time Google visited this site was on 2009-01-10, and the last time suspicious content was found on this site was on 2009-01-10.

Malicious software includes 133 scripting exploit(s). Successful infection resulted in an average of 2 new processes on the target machine.

Malicious software is hosted on 1 domain(s), including testwvr.com/.

This site was hosted on 1 network(s) including AS4758 (NICNET).

Has this site acted as an intermediary resulting in further distribution of malware?

Over the past 90 days, 164.100.24.0 did not appear to function as an intermediary for the infection of any sites.

Has this site hosted malware?

No, this site has not hosted malicious software over the past 90 days.

Next steps:

* Return to the previous page.
* If you are the owner of this web site, you can request a review of your site using Google Webmaster Tools. More information about the review process is available in Google's Webmaster Help Center.


BJP Future - 6 - Guest - 01-12-2009

I tried, no problem.


BJP Future - 6 - Guest - 01-13-2009

<b>‘BJP doomed, Vasundhara must be jailed’ Shekawat</b>

And do read the comments under the news item.


BJP Future - 6 - Guest - 01-13-2009

<b>Seers unhappy with BJP</b>
Are they happy with Sonia Congress?


BJP Future - 6 - Guest - 01-13-2009

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->BJP doomed, Vasundhara must be jailed’ Shekawat<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Shekawat or Bhatti or Natwar Singh are from same arrogrance mentality.
Natwar Singh is still very loyal to his masters.


BJP Future - 6 - Guest - 01-13-2009

<!--QuoteBegin-Pandyan+Jan 11 2009, 08:17 PM-->QUOTE(Pandyan @ Jan 11 2009, 08:17 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Swamy G+Jan 10 2009, 11:03 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Swamy G @ Jan 10 2009, 11:03 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->BJP's website: http://www.bjp.org/
& compare with
USA Republican party's website: http://www.rnc.org/
USA Democratic party's website: http://www.democrats.org/index.html
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Wonder why many Indians boast about this nonexistent IT expertise, can't even get a decent website built. BJP webshite looks disgusting.
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Let me not start my rant on Indian websites and their quality and theme. There will be no end to it.

I was reading Advani's blog, and it was interesting to read about the literature he created, when he was 25 years old, and was going to distribute in the Gujjar dominated areas. The story yet again throws what is important in our elections.

And maybe that is why they do not focus on things that we think are important. I am sure for a few thousands rupees the website can be tidied up. But do they think it is important? For some reason they thought having a website was important.


BJP Future - 6 - Guest - 01-13-2009

In US, political parties use lot of voluenters.
In India, they should open up.


BJP Future - 6 - Guest - 01-13-2009

I am sure they use in India too. Also they must be getting paid too. But these folks are pressed into different kinds of service - they are more foot soldiers. I bet the website designers in USA are paid to do what they do.

I often say, in India it is called bribe; in USA it is called fees. I hope they open up for the NRIs to vote in the General Elections.


BJP Future - 6 - ramana - 01-13-2009

<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Jan 13 2009, 05:13 PM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Jan 13 2009, 05:13 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Seers unhappy with BJP</b>
Are they happy with Sonia Congress?
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The text follows. BTW Telegraph is a INC paper and its stories abnout BJP need to be studied as headline and content will be different.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Seers unhappy with BJP
SANJAY K. JHA 
 
Advani: Under sadhu fire 
New Delhi, Jan. 12: <b>The Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh has conveyed to the BJP that Hindu seers are not happy with its leadership.</b>

Sangh sources say <b>the seers feel the BJP is diluting Hindutva to appear moderate and that its sole purpose is to win power, not to protect the religious interests of the majority community.</b>

The sources say the <b>top Sangh leadership has expressed inability to stop the seers from turning against the BJP at a time parliamentary polls are near.</b>

<b>The sadhus feel that Hindus are being insulted by the so-called secular forces, which have created an impression that pampering religious minorities is a legitimate socio-political exercise,</b> Sangh leaders have told the BJP.

<b>BJP leaders have tried to explain their compulsions in a coalition era but have convinced neither the Sangh nor the larger community of Hindu seers,</b> who help mobilise public opinion in favour of the party during elections.

The dilemma on an ideological issue has created confusion within the BJP too: some leaders fear the “moderate project” will end up reducing the party to a Congress copycat.

<b>These leaders rubbish the argument of coalition compulsions and recall that the BJP had managed to draw allies and form its first government at the Centre because of the Ram temple movement. They cite the example of Gujarat, where Narendra Modi established himself as the Hindutva mascot before moving on to the development plank.</b>

<b>The Hindutva protagonists are disturbed to see this dilution under L.K. Advani, who earlier represented hard-core Hindutva against Atal Bihari Vajpayee’s moderate agenda.</b>

<b>Advani’s team now has far more advocates of the moderate agenda than Vajpayee’s had. The agenda was forcefully defended by Arun Jaitley and Venkaiah Naidu at a recent meeting with Sangh leaders.</b>

Advani’s team is mostly made up of English-speaking moderates like Sudheendra Kulkarni, Chandan Mitra and Balbir Punj.

Barring the Amarnath issue, Advani himself has exercised caution in his speeches and taken care to sound more like a centrist Congress leader than a Sangh ideologue.

He has carefully avoided the company of Vishwa Hindu Parishad leaders, preferring gurus like Baba Ramdev and Sri Sri Ravi Shankar to parivar rabble-rousers like Praveen Togadia and Sadhvi Rithambara.

<b>The sadhus also do not identify with BJP president Rajnath Singh. BJP insiders say the Thakur from Uttar Pradesh has never styled himself a Hindutva icon and his attempts to cultivate a saffron hue is just strategic positioning.</b>

<b>The BJP, however, is not perturbed by the sense of dismay among hard-core Hindutva protagonists, including the seers, primarily because it thinks they have no political alternative to choose from.</b>

There is no denying that the BJP is the only national-level option for Hindutva forces.

The Sangh, however, is worried by its foot soldiers’ lack of interest about the BJP’s prospects. <b>They may not oppose the BJP, but their apathy will surely hurt the party, the Sangh fears.</b>


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there is a lot of fact and opnion mixed in this article and looks like an attempt to protray the BJP as lacking support from its traditional base due to LKA's supposed moderate stance and English speaking coterie! All in all its psy-ops before the elections.


BJP Future - 6 - Guest - 01-14-2009

Togadia and Ashok Singhal are Congress Party supporters; they will try to sabotage BJP.

Have you heard any call for to build Ram temple since Congress came into power? But just one year before last General election, Togadia and Ashok Singhal's everyday news conference against BJP and call for Ram temple etc. What happened to those bricks if they remain unused will be curse? Togadia brother joined Congress Party and tried his luck in last Gujarat state election.
We should watch these two guys before election. Last week Ashok Singhal gave his signal , when he attacked BJP. We know Puri Seer is Congress supporter.


BJP Future - 6 - Guest - 01-14-2009

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->We know Puri Seer is Congress supporter.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So, why does he supports Congress?