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Pakistan News And Discussion-11 - Naresh - 07-23-2007

Lota Morons getting Paranoid!

<b>Close watch on two Indian diplomats</b>

<b>ISLAMABAD- After the proofs found about the involvement of Indian agents into the spate of violent attacks against the Pakistan Army, the agencies have found further links regarding the propaganda campaign launched to create confusion and chaos.

The investigations, launched to trace the connection of key officials with suspected militants, led the investigators towards Indian embassy, which is believed to be involved in the propaganda campaign against Pakistan Army and distribution of hatred material about the current regime.</b>

“An important diplomat of the said country has been found involved in using media buildup against Pakistan Army and the agencies have fixed eyes on him” a highly placed source revealed.

“The strict monitoring of agencies proved that this diplomat has been involved in the distribution of hate material against army and President Musharraf especially during the current judicial crises,” the source said.

He said that the specific diplomat was also involved in the production of a book <b>(Military Inc.)</b> against Pakistan Army and had 12 consecutive meetings with the author of that book <b>(Dr. Ayesha Siddiqa)</b>.

“The agencies have also learnt that all expenses of the book have been provided by the neighboring country through said diplomat, who is now under their close watch”, the source maintained.

“The writer of the book, who is currently living abroad, is so close to the said diplomat that her personal car is still parked at the residence of the diplomat of the neighboring enemy state,” the source quoted proof to substantiate the information.

He said that another diplomat of the said country was also active to destabilize the country and tried to mislead few lawyers who were campaigning against government during the Chief Justice reference hearing.

“The said diplomat also had a meeting with several leading lawyers of the CJ inside the Supreme Court building”, he stated.

He said the diplomat had also arranged a quiet visit of the leading lawyer of the CJ to his country soon after the reference was filed.

“These two diplomats are under tight watch of agencies, which are seeking instructions from higher authorities for any further action against them”, he added.

The agencies have also found proofs of neighboring country’s involvement in funding for the suicide attacks in Pakistan.

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Pakistan News And Discussion-11 - Guest - 07-23-2007

Nareshji, my take on current issue-
Bush is under pressure from Democrats and his own party. He wants OBL to improve his rating and avoid continuous Congress harassment. After Lal Masjid episode, Mushy had become weak, now US is putting pressure on Mushy to give OBL address and telephone no. so that they can shut Democrats. Not sure whether Mushy will deliver, in case he really think he is in weak situation he may deliver OBL or No2 , just to survive. Democrats may put restriction on future billions to Paki Army.

Pakistan News And Discussion-11 - Guest - 07-23-2007

<b>US won't rule out military incursion into Pakistan: Townsend </b>

<b>Troops, militants clash in Pakistan </b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->MIRAN SHAH, Pakistan - Islamic militants detonated bombs close to military convoys and attacked government positions in Pakistan's restive northwestern tribal region, sparking gunfights that left 19 insurgents dead, government officials said Sunday.

Two security posts came under rocket attack and an army convoy was attacked on Monday, authorities said.

<b>Pakistan rejects 'Bin Laden raid' </b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Pakistan has responded angrily to suggestions from the United States that American forces might be sent into Pakistan to strike at Osama Bin Laden. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--emo&Big Grin--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Pakistan News And Discussion-11 - Naresh - 07-23-2007

<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Jul 23 2007, 08:43 AM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Jul 23 2007, 08:43 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Nareshji, my take on current issue-
Bush is under pressure from Democrats and his own party. He wants OBL to improve his rating and avoid continuous Congress harassment. After Lal Masjid episode, Mushy had become weak, now US is putting pressure on Mushy to give OBL address and telephone no. so that they can shut Democrats. Not sure whether Mushy will deliver, in case he really think he is in weak situation he may deliver OBL or No2 , just to survive. Democrats may put restriction on future billions to Paki Army.

<b>Mudy Ji :</b>

Neither Mush the Tush nor any other Lotastaani will give up on Bin Laden.

If they do then there will be no further need for Lotastaan being “Front Line Ali” against Terrorism as once Bush gets Bin Laden then the US will - most probably - be able to “wind up” the rest of the Terrorists.

No further need for Lotastaan means no more “Moolah” from US.

Think about it!

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Pakistan News And Discussion-11 - Guest - 07-23-2007

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Neither Mush the Tush nor any other Lotastaani will give up on Bin Laden.
If they don't, it means any future money will come with condition e.g how they are spending, auditing etc. we know Paki Army can cook books but it will be create real hardship on family and Vilayat and Kanada trips.

<b>Roadside bomb attack wound 7 soldiers</b>
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Pakistan News And Discussion-11 - Guest - 07-24-2007

<b>PAKISTAN-Musharraf Bruised But Not Beaten:</b> .By B.Raman

Pakistan News And Discussion-11 - Guest - 07-24-2007

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Militants vow 'gift of death' for Pakistani troops</b>
MIRANSHAH, Pakistan, July 23 (AFP) Militants Monday warned Pakistani soldiers to quit fighting or face more suicide attacks, as peace talks faltered in the area bordering Afghanistan. Militants threatened that explosives would bring soldiers the “gift of death” in a pamphlet entitled “Till Islam Lives in Islamabad”, distributed in the town of Miranshah in the North Waziristan tribal district. The pamphlet, issued by a group calling itself the Mujahedin-e-Islam, accused Pakistani troops of doing the bidding of the United States and leading impure lives. (Posted @ 14:00 PST)<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Daily Times - Site Edition Monday, July 23, 2007
<b>US aid plan for FC facing resistance</b>

LAHORE: The Bush administration is struggling to get congressional approval for millions of dollars in aid to the Frontier Corps in the tribal areas of Pakistan, reports the Boston Globe. The $300 million plan to transform the Frontier Corps into a modern fighting force is part of a new, $2 billion US-Pakistani counterinsurgency effort designed to wrest the region from extremist militants. But this new funding request has run into resistance, in part because of congressional restrictions on aid to non-traditional military groups, and also because questions have been raised about whether the tribesmen who make up the corps are friends or foes of the United States, congressional sources and US officials told the Globe. State Department officials say the 80,000-member FC needs a massive training, equipment, vehicles, and night-vision goggles to fight Al Qaeda and the Taliban. daily times monitoring

Pakistan News And Discussion-11 - Naresh - 07-24-2007

[center]<b><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>Fraudistan Zindabad</span></b>[/center]

[center]<b><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>NAB to hire experts to probe ‘biggest’ tax fraud</span></b> <!--emo&:flush--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Flush.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='Flush.gif' /><!--endemo--> [/center]

<b>ISLAMABAD : The National Accountability Bureau (NAB) is in the process of acquiring expertise from official as well as private sources to scan records of Karachi Sales Tax offices which had recently been seized by its investigators after unearthing the tax history’s biggest fraud, say sources.</b>

The officials who have been handling these records have been listed, while the Customs Intelligence is reportedly assisting the NAB after filing four FIRs against most unlikely businessmen that could not be suspected of ever having money enough and connections required for undertaking businesses and frauds reported to have been committed by them.

“These are just frontmen,” said a senior official, adding that NAB’s experts might reach the actual culprits. Both the CBR and the Customs Intelligence Headquarters in Islamabad have already expressed unwillingness to affirm or otherwise on this issue.

One senior CBR official, however, said, “investigations are afoot and let us await the results. Three Karachi exporters, namely Sajjad Pardesi, Qadir Jhangra and Arif Sunyara are absconding after the NAB seized records of Sales Tax (East) Karachi, lodged FIRs and arrested some other culprits. Three senior Customs officials, seven assistants at the Collector’s office both at East and West Sales Tax, Karachi, face investigations for ‘alleged collusion’.

Initially, the estimates of defrauded export rebate and refunds on some 25 million metres of cloth and other items amounted to Rs2.2 billion, but these were just initial estimates, said a senior official at Karachi. He said the total fraud, when unearthed, might amount to Rs27 billion, which is so far the largest detection in tax history.

He indicated that this would again be only a part of the frauds committed and under investigation which might be in the vicinity of Rs250 billion, all perpetrated between 2002 and 2006. “They (NAB staff) are after the entire thing, and might come out with something far larger than anyone could ever suspect taking place in the tax offices. And this would be the story of only Karachi offices, while similar things have also taken place in the Punjab where exports rebate and refund frauds are being investigated by the CBR’s audit wing,” the official added.

<b>Director Audit CBR Sher Nawaz was engaged to help investigate these cases technically, and now the NAB officials are working on it to unearth “the tentacles of these people touching somewhere big and high.</b>

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Pakistan News And Discussion-11 - Guest - 07-25-2007

<b>US was allowed to station force near tribal area: WP</b>
allowded <!--emo&Big Grin--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->WASHINGTON, July 24: The United States stopped sharing intelligence with Pakistan on the whereabouts of Al Qaeda leaders because of fears that it may leak to the other side, the US media reported on Tuesday. <!--emo&Big Grin--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

A Washington Post report said that ever since the Taliban rule ended in Afghanistan and Al Qaeda relocated to Pakistani tribal regions, the United States has been mounting CIA and military special operations to attack terrorist targets.

At one point, the United States even deployed Predator drones on Pakistani soil, as well as special operations planes and helicopters. The US also maintained a large CIA quick reaction force and field station just east of the tribal region in Tarbela, the report added.

CIA operations in Pakistan, the report claimed, were conducted with Islamabad’s consent and the Americans also respected Islamabad’s desire that US military forces do not operate inside the country.
too little too late

Pakistan News And Discussion-11 - Guest - 07-25-2007

<b>Pakistan rocket strike kills 14</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->At least 14 people have been killed and about 30 injured by rockets fired into a city in the north-west of Pakistan, police say.
Four rockets were fired into Bannu hitting some houses, a mosque and a shop, a police official said.

Not clear who is killing who?

Pakistan News And Discussion-11 - Guest - 07-25-2007

<b>Terror training camps at nine locations in N. Waziristan, says US </b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->According to the sources US authorities have pinpointed locations of terrorism training camps to Pakistani authorities and an anti-terrorism drive has been started.

United States has warned of dire consequences if terrorists attacked the country, the sources said<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
How it is possible? US never saw training camp which were used against Indians. Something is wrong, someone is smoking big time.

Pakistan News And Discussion-11 - Naresh - 07-25-2007

<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Jul 25 2007, 10:42 AM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Jul 25 2007, 10:42 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Pakistan rocket strike kills 14</b>At least 14 people have been killed and about 30 injured by rockets fired into a city in the north-west of Pakistan, police say.
Four rockets were fired into Bannu hitting some houses, a mosque and a shop, a police official said.

<b>Not clear who is killing who?</b>

<b>Mudy Ji :</b>

As long as they are killing each other does it really matter? <!--emo&:roll--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ROTFL.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ROTFL.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&Confusedtupid--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pakee.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pakee.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:roll--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ROTFL.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ROTFL.gif' /><!--endemo-->

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Pakistan News And Discussion-11 - Naresh - 07-25-2007

<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Jul 25 2007, 09:28 PM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Jul 25 2007, 09:28 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Terror training camps at nine locations in N. Waziristan, says US </b>According to the sources US authorities have pinpointed locations of terrorism training camps to Pakistani authorities and an anti-terrorism drive has been started.

United States has warned of dire consequences if terrorists attacked the country, the sources said

<b>How it is possible? US never saw training camp which were used against Indians. Something is wrong, someone is smoking big time.</b>

<b>Mudy Ji :</b>

Return of the Prodigal Son! <!--emo&:clapping--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/clap.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='clap.gif' /><!--endemo-->

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Pakistan News And Discussion-11 - Guest - 07-26-2007

<b>9 civilians die in Bannu attacks</b>
<i>* Govt school targeted in Mir Ali
* Woman loses legs in landmine explosion
* NWFP CM announces compensation for victims </i>

Pakistan News And Discussion-11 - Guest - 07-26-2007

<b>Schaffer's Pakistan policy for US</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->She said that two priorities for Washington is to "put its weight behind a return to civilian rule" in Pakistan "through free and fair elections," even as it "urgently needs to try to strengthen and broaden the anti-terrorism consensus within Pakistan."
It also reflects <b>a hard-nosed judgment </b>about the relationship between the Pakistan army and the militants who threaten to destroy the progressive, modern Islamic character of the state that underpins real policy cooperation with the United States."
"Military sales should focus in the first instance on equipment that will help Pakistan with its vital counter-terrorism goals. Military sales that relate more to general defense upgrading should take a back seat, and should be contingent on Pakistan's effective performance in countering militant extremists, both along the Afghan border and elsewhere."


<b>She also castigated the Bush Administration defense of Musharraf as the only game in town noting that "the administration has tended to speak of Musharraf whenever it is asked about policy toward Pakistan."</b>

Pakistan News And Discussion-11 - Guest - 07-26-2007

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Nuggets from the Urdu press </b>
<b>Ume Hassan was the mastermind in Jamia Hafsa</b>
As reported in daily Nawa-e-Waqt, Abdul Rashid Ghazi was ready to revolt against his brother’s strict policies but one of his friends spied on him and reported to Ume Hassan. She told the press that since the life of Abdul Rashid Ghazi was in danger, a group of armed mujahideen would protect him. That was meant to control his movements. Ume Hassan was compiling a book of the basharatain and dreams of Maulana Abdul Aziz. She was fond of the latest expensive mobile phones and broasted chicken.

<b>Ghazi refused to meet female parliamentarians</b>
As reported in daily Khabrain, Maulana Abdul Rashid Ghazi refused to meet the female parliamentarians of MMA under the leadership of Kausar Firdous, which included Samia Raheela Qazi and the wife of Qazi Hussain Ahmad, who reached Lal Masjid after facing great hardships. Raheela Qazi said that the Lal Masjid administration was defaming Islam.

<b>PTV responsible for Lal Masjid operation</b>
Columnist Hamid Mir wrote in daily Jang that initially, the local residents of F-6 were opposed to Lal Masjid. Maulana Abdul Aziz tried to escape to the tribal belt of NWFP to continue his movement from there when an alert female officer captured him, and the resolve of the warriors in Lal Masjid was broken. Lal Masjid warriors contacted media men to plead with the government to provide safe passage to them. But when someone got approval to show Maulana Abdul Aziz in a burqa on television, the warriors were infuriated and ready to die for the cause.

<b>Parents attacked at Jamia Hafsa</b>
As reported in Daily Pakistan, the Deputy Commissioner told the press that 22 parents went to Jamia Hafsa for their children and came under fire from students. Gul Khan, from Dir, was injured. Gul Khan told the journalists that his two daughters were in Jamia Hafsa and that armed men had kidnapped them. Two others were given five minutes to escape from Jamia Hafsa by the administration of Lal Masjid.

<b>Clerics divided over Army presence in NWFP</b>
As reported in daily Express, differences between Jamiat Ulema Islam and Jamaat e Islami surfaced over the deployment of armed forces in NWFP. The Amir of Jamaat e Islami, Maulana Siraj ul Haq, said that the Jamaat e Islami was not taken into confidence before the Army was called into NWFP. He said that the government should avoid military operations against the religious leader of Swat, Maulvi Fazalullah (Maulvi Radio). He said that the government should solve the problem through dialogue, even if this takes years.

<b>Lal Masjid administration claims 335 dead</b>
According to daily Nawa-e-Waqt, the Lal Masjid administration claimed that during Saturday and Sunday, 335 students (310 female and 25 male) were killed by security agencies. The spokesman of the Interior Ministry, Brigadier Javed Iqbal Cheema, said that only 24 died in the operation and that the government sent ambulances for the injured and killed.

<b>Death of a rebel</b>
In daily Jang, columnist Hamid Mir wrote that Maulana Mohammad Abdullah was suspicious of his rebellious son, Abdul Rashid Ghazi, who married into a moderate family against his wishes. People were shocked to see his wife driving a car from Lal Masjid. Maulana Abdullah took Abdul Rashid Ghazi to Afghanistan in 1998, where he met Osama bin Laden and Mullah Omar. He met Osama bin Laden alone for one hour, and questioned him in English. At the end of the discussion he took the half glass of water beside Osama bin Laden and drank it. He said that he drank Osama bin Laden’s leftover water so that God could make him a mujahid like Osama.

<b>Police looting shops during curfew </b>
As reported in daily Khabrain, it was discovered that the police looted mineral water and eatables from Melody Market during curfew. The residents of G-6 demanded that the government should not prolong the operation.

<b>Tomb of Ayaz converted into imam’s hujra</b>
As reported in daily Express, a general of Mahmood Ghaznavi and preacher of humanity, Ahmad Ayaz’s, tomb has been reduced by the Auqaf Department, and the dome of the shrine was converted into a hujra for the imam e masjid. Ahmad Ayaz was one of 120 elite slaves bought by Mahmood Ghaznavi, who had a sharp eye for talented slaves. He was the governor of Lahore for 22 years before he died at age 48 in Lahore.

<b>Lal Masjid operation would create class struggle</b>
As reported in Daily Pakistan, a meeting of the ulema of Jamiat Ahle Hadees Pakistan was held to ponder over the issue of Lal Masjid. The nazim, Hafiz Ibtisam Illahi Zaheer, said that if the operation didn’t stop, it would create a sense of deprivation amongst the people and would trigger a class struggle in Pakistan. He said that the government wants to play with the lives of people living around Lal Masjid.

<b>Who provided funds to Lal Masjid?</b>
As reported in daily Jang, the khatib of Lal Masjid, Maulana Abdul Aziz, provided a list of donors during his interrogation. A senator from Islamabad, Talha Mehmood, and his brother Zahid Bakhtawari, Shaheen chemists, Pri Qaiser and one pharmaceutical company were providing crores of rupees on a regular basis. A resident of Abbottabad, Janant Gul, provided 15 kalashnikovs and bullets.

<b>The news of Ghazi’s death in London</b>
Lyrical columnist Irfan Siddique wrote in daily Nawa-e-Waqt, that he was boarding a train for Manchester when he received a call that Maulana Abdul Rashid had been martyred. A sharp blade pressed deep into his heart. He looked through the window and remembered when he was sitting with the two brothers in a small room. Abdul Rashid made tea for him with love and offered him biscuits. He was sad that they didn’t accept his advice and then he distanced himself from this affair.

Pakistan News And Discussion-11 - Guest - 07-26-2007

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Internal Security Threats: Suicide Bombings
<b>Threat perceptions of an unstable state </b>
Khaled Ahmed
The theocratic state will be internally stable through coercion. It will however come to an end after being attacked from the outside for endangering the world 

Pakistan has always suffered from what is termed as ‘domestic political malaise’ and possessed some of the traits of ‘disorder’ common to third world states; but some characteristics have been specific to it right from the start. Also, the trouble it faces relating to the definition of the state is specific to all Muslim states.

<b>The challenged state: </b>The Pakistani state was challenged on the day it was born. The challenge came from the clergy historically in charge of the process of bestowing legitimacy on the state. T<b>he earliest diplomatic messages that went from Karachi to Washington spoke of the ‘internal’ clerical threat more than the ‘external’ threat from India.</b> The ulema taxed the state with the erection of a utopia based on sharia even though there was intra-clerical disagreement over the lineaments of this utopia.

Pakistan responded by initiating a journey away from its Low Church (Barelvi) origin to a High Church (Deobandi) identity with a promise to legislate on the basis of Islam.<b> India-driven revisionist nationalism began to mix with Islam, and an army moulded to fulfil the demands of this revisionist nationalism was fed with the concept of jihad. The army became an ‘externaliser’ of the internal threat.</b> Its generals were forced by revisionism to be ‘tactical’ rather than ‘strategic’ in their thinking. National wars with India were ‘applied’ on internal disorder as a weak poultice.

<b>The clenched fist of the state:</b> Pakistan misunderstood the nature of the modern nation-state. It coercively clubbed together the regions it should have permitted autonomy to; and it ‘separated’ the citizens it should have allowed to merge in one Pakistani identity capable of containing multiple sub-identities. The creation of One Unit as a device to stop the provinces from ‘uniting’ against the Centre laid the foundation of Pakistan’s internal insecurity that was to lead in time to Pakistan army ‘conquering its own people’.

Lack of pluralism, buried in a wrong interpretation of separate electorates, led to insecurity at the level of the individual.<b> The ‘separation’ of the non-Muslim from the Muslim sowed the seeds of another strife that was to undermine state security. It created ‘excluded’ communities whose loyalty to the state was called in question; it also created potentially ‘excludable’ communities, which led to violence as a permanent trait of the state</b>. Because of the function of ‘exclusion’, Pakistan also became a sectarian state after the empowerment of the clergy in jihad. Pakistan’s internal threat in the 1990s, and later, sprang from its sharing of internal sovereignty with the non-state actors it used in jihad.

<b>India as source of internal insecurity:</b> Revisionism of the ‘lesser state’ is extremely self-destabilising. The onus of altering the status quo includes the waging of a just war against an enemy that cannot be defeated. Pakistan has always expressed fear of an ‘external’ threat to its security. This has invariably meant India, a state ‘not reconciled to the existence of Pakistan’. But this ‘external threat’ was of imagination rather than reality. Often it was linked to the military calculus of the ‘imbalance of force’ with India.

India was indeed a factor in Pakistan’s internal insecurity. Pakistan had to regiment itself in order to remain revisionist. Human rights remained suspended even when there was no martial law in the country. State paranoia forced certain elements to be considered pro-India and seen as a threat. Intelligence agencies symptomatise a state’s paranoia. Whole political parties with vote banks big enough to rule Pakistan were dubbed ‘security threat’. In short, it is the ‘straining’ of the lesser revisionist state that creates internal instability which in turn looks like ‘security threat’.

<b>The unstable Islamic state:</b> A Muslim state will always be internally threatened by what may be called constant ‘exemplification’. It will be required to declare Islam as its touchstone, which means it will always be found wanting. It will always be judged relative to a literalist sharia based on the perfect city state of Madina run on the basis of revelation. A nation-state will fail to contain the transnational emotion of its population. It will remain internally threatened by its own declared objectives.

The internal threat pattern will describe the following trajectory. The clergy will become empowered through its informal ‘arbitrage’ between the people wanting sharia and the state preferring pragmatic governance. Popular rejectionism will result from the endemic malfunction of the state in most areas of service delivery. This rejectionism will become violent through the financial and armed empowerment of the clergy. The state will be unstable until it finally becomes theocratic. The theocratic state will be internally stable through coercion. It will however come to an end after being attacked from the outside for endangering the world. Pakistan is embarked on this trajectory, like Iran after Imam Khomeini and Afghanistan under the Taliban that actually accomplished the journey

Pakistan News And Discussion-11 - Guest - 07-27-2007

<b>Taleban commander was 'shot dead' </b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Taleban commander Abdullah Mehsud was killed by Pakistani soldiers and did not commit suicide, one of the owners of the house in which he died says.
The man, Shaikh Alam Mandokhel, said that Mehsud was shot in the stomach.

Pakistani police had said Mehsud blew himself up to evade arrest after being surrounded in Balochistan province.

Mehsud, a Taleban veteran who the US freed from custody at Guantanamo Bay, became one of Pakistan's most wanted Islamic militant leaders.

He was buried in his home village in the South Waziristan tribal area on Wednesday

Pakistan News And Discussion-11 - Guest - 07-27-2007

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Internal Security Threats: Suicide Bombings  </b> 
Karachi seminarians expect crackdown -
Hamza Shaheryar
Sources in the provincial home department say there are clear directives from Islamabad asking intelligence and law enforcement officials to keep a close watch on four major seminaries in the city

In the wake of the government’s operation against the Lal Masjid in Islamabad, seminary heads in Karachi are worried about the possibility of a crackdown on major madrassas in the city. Sources in the provincial home department say there are clear directives from Islamabad asking intelligence and law enforcement officials to keep a close watch on eleven madrassas in the country, including four in Karachi.

“We have information from Islamabad that at least three or four major seminaries in Karachi are on the undeclared watch list of the government,” the administrator of a major seminary in the city told TFT. On the other hand, sources in the Sindh Home Department deny being issued any directive about taking any action against seminaries, although they have been asked to keep a “close watch”.

<b>Most of the seminaries on the watch list are Deobandi, while the rest are Ahle-Hadith. Deobandi seminaries number some 10,000 out of the 16,000 seminaries established across Pakistan, while the Ahle-Hadith school of thought has a negligible number of seminaries. Both were involved in the jihad in Afghanistan</b>.

Sources say that contrary to official figures, the number of madrassas in Sindh is much higher than 1,000. Two years ago, the interior ministry said there were at least 2,100 madrassas in Sindh, out of which 1,030 were registered while 1,070 were operating without official permission. About 277,805 students are enrolled in those seminaries. In the last two years, say officials, 200 new seminaries have been added to the list but remain unregistered.

“We are very concerned about the unchecked increase and functioning of these unregistered institutions; they are fueling sectarian hatred and brainwashing young minds against Muslims of other sects,” an interior ministry insider told TFT.

Sectarian strife: a chronology of death:

Allama Hassan Turabi’s death on July 13, 2006 was the last sectarian attack and suicide bombing in Karachi. Shiite mosques and Imam Bargahs have been attacked seven times since 1995; 102 people have been killed and 250 injured in these attacks. Two of the attacks occurred on the same day in 1995; a total of 22 people were killed and 18 injured. Two mosques were attacked in May 2004; 49 people were killed and 200 injured. The latest incident was reported in May 2005 in which six people, including three suicide bombers, were killed. In the violence that followed the attack, a KFC outlet was torched; six of its employees lost their lives.

<b>Some important dates:</b>
May 8, 2002: A suicide attack on a bus killed 15 people, including 11 French workers.

May 7, 2004: At least 30 Shite worshipers were killed and hundreds injured in a suicide bomb attack at a mosque during Friday prayers.

May 30, 2004: Armed men ambushed and killed pro-Taliban Sunni cleric and chief of Banori Town mosque, Mufti Nizamuddin Shamzai, in Karachi. His son, nephew and driver suffered wounds.

July 24, 2004: An employee of a local seminary, Jamiatul Rasheed, was killed and seven people, including four teachers, were injured in a bomb attack in the Gulshan-e-Maimar area of Karachi.

August 8, 2004: At least 10 people, including a three-year-old boy, were killed and 50 others injured in two bomb explosions near the Jamia Banoria, SITE Town.

October 6, 2004: Two police personnel were killed and a civilian injured in an attack by unidentified gunmen on a security post outside a Shiite mosque in Karachi.

October 9, 2004: Two Sunni clerics, Mufti Mohammad Jamil, a close aide of the late Mufti Nizamuddin Shamzai, and Maulana Nazeer Ahmed Taunsvi, were shot dead on Jehangir Road in Karachi.

November 16, 2004: Asim Ghafoor alias Qasim Sukkurwala, affiliated with the Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM), was shot dead in an exchange of fire with police personnel in the Saeedabad area of Karachi.

April 6, 2005: Maulana Mohammed Amin Qadri, Sunni Tahrik leader and a government schoolteacher, was shot dead by unidentified gunmen in the Pirabad area of Karachi.

June 23, 2005: Mufti Atiq ur Rahman, a cleric at the Jamia Banoria SITE Town was shot dead and his son and a man accompanying them were wounded in an attack near the Sindh Secretariat.

July 9, 2005: Unidentified men abducted and later shot dead Maulana Shamsuddin, a cleric in the Orangi Town area of Karachi.

July 17, 2005: A cleric, Maulana Abdullah Ahmed Madni, was killed and his father, Mufti Muhammad Ahmed Madni, injured when unidentified gunmen opened fire on them in the Buffer Zone area of Karachi.

March 2, 2006: A US diplomat, identified as David Fyfe, his Pakistani driver and a Rangers official were killed and 54 persons injured in a suicide car bombing near the US consulate in Karachi. This was one day before US President George W Bush reached Pakistan.

April 6, 2006: Allama Hassan Turabi escaped unhurt while four people, including his son and a guard, suffered injuries in a bomb blast.

April 11, 2006: At least 60 people, including the top hierarchy of the Sunni Tehrik and other prominent religious personalities, were killed and over a 100 were injured in a suspected suicide bomb attack at Nishtar Park.

July 13, 2006: A suicide bomber detonated a bomb near the home of prominent Shiite cleric Allama Hassan Turabi, killing him and one of his relatives

Pakistan News And Discussion-11 - Guest - 07-27-2007

Terrorism or we should call self inflicted or freedom struggle
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Terrorism across Pakistan in 2007 </b>
The carnage left by terror attacks 
Shahnawaz Khan
January 1: Suspected insurgents blw up a main gas pipeline and two electricity pylons at Dera Bugti in Balochistan. The Balochistan Liberation Army (BLA) leader, Wadera Alam Khan Bugti, claims responsibility. He also claims responsibility for two other incidents in which three electricity poles in Dasht and a gas pipeline were targeted.

January 3: Insurgents blow up a pipeline in Dera Bugti, suspending the supply of gas to Pir Koh.
January 5: A gas pipeline is blown up in the Dera Bugti, disrupting supplies to a nearby gas plant.
January 11: Two rockets explode near the fort of the Frontier Corps (FC) in Mastung, Balochistan. No damage or casualties reported.
January 14: A bomb attached to an Afghanistan-bound petrol tanker supplying fuel to American forces exploded in Chaman, Balochistan. No casualties reported.
January 14: An explosive device kills three in the Matta area of Swat in the NWFP. Pro-Taliban militants kill a suspected Uzbek militant in Butkhela, North Waziristan.
January 15: A bomb explodes at an Afghan refugee camp in the house of Maulvi Masoodullah in Nowshera, NWFP, killing four and injuring five.
January 17: In separate incidents, two powerful bombs explode in Hub, Balochistan, while rockets are fired at two security check-posts at Karmo-Wadh and Pat Feeder in Nasirabad. Police foil an attempt to destroy a power transmission pylon in Mastung.
January 18: Railway traffic between Quetta and the rest of Pakistan are suspended as the main tracks are blown up by insurgents near Dera Murad Jamali. An explosive device destroys a portion of the tracks linking Quetta with Sindh, Punjab and the NWFP in Kajla Mor.
January 22: A suicide bomber rams an explosive-laden car into a military convoy near Mirali, North Waziristan. Four soldiers are killed, 23 are injured.
January 23: Rockets explode near the gate of the Balochistan Constabulary camp. Insurgents also attack a Frontier Corps check-post in Kohlu.
January 25: A car-bomb attack at Hangu, NWFP kills one and injures six.
January 26: A security guard is killed and five are wounded as a suicide bomber blows himself up outside the Marriot Hotel in Islamabad.
January 27: A suicide attack on a Shiite procession kills fifteen and injures sixty in Peshawar.
January 28: Gas supply to the main purification plant at Sui, Balochistan is suspended after insurgents attack the main pipeline. In another incident, insurgents reportedly fire at least four rockets at an FC check-post in Kohlu. No casualties are reported.
January 29: A suicide bomber kills two policemen in Dera Ismael Khan. Insurgents blow up a gas pipeline in Pir Koh. Officials report extensive damage to a gas pipeline following an attack by insurgents in Marro, Balochistan. In another incident, insurgents fire three rockets at an airport, causing partial damage, and another four at an FC camp in Panjgur. Another three rockets were fired at a checkpoost in Bhambore, Kohlu.
January 30: A Shiite procession is attacked in Hangu with rockets, resulting in a burst of sectarian violence that claims two lives. Curfew is imposed in the area.
January 31: A shooting at a Shiite procession kills two in Hangu, which is still under curfew.

February 1: Gunmen attack a government vehicle in North Waziristan, killing three, including two government officials. In a second incident, two civilians are killed and six, including five children, are wounded in a bomb blast at Bara, NWFP. Terrorists fire two rockets at the Gwadar port area, suspending power supply to the entire district for several hours.
February 3: A suicide bomber drives an explosive-laden jeep into a military convoy, killing two soldiers and injuring seven in Tank, NWFP.
February 5: A pro-government tribal leader and two others are killed in a landmine explosion in Nawagai, NWFP, near the Pakistan-Afghanistan border.
February 6: A suicide bomber blows himself up at the Islamabad airport, injuring ten. Militants kill two Afghan nationals accused of spying for the US in North Waziristan.
February 7: Two armed motorcyclists kill an Intelligence Bureau official near Darra Adam Khel, NWFP.
February 10: A blast at the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) office in Peshawar damages four vehicles and some property. A landmine blast in Sibi kills one and wounds two. Insurgents damage a major gas pipeline, disrupting supply to Quetta. February 11: A bomb blast causes serious damage to an NGO office in Darra Adam Khel. February 12: Two powerful explosions are reported in Quetta.
February 14: A gas pipeline is damaged by insurgents at Sui, Balochistan.
February 16: A bomb explodes at the main market in Tank, NWFP.
February 17: A senior judge and seven lawyers are among the 17 dead as a bomb rips through a courtroom in Quetta.
February 18: A landmine kills two boys in the Turab Gholato village on the Sindh-Balochistan border. Another landmine injures three soldiers in Dera Bugti, Balochistan. Insurgents blow up a gas pipeline in Pir Koh. The UNSC declares the Al-Rashid Trust and the Al-Akhtar Trust to have militant links, the Pakistani government orders immediate closure of their offices.
February 20: An Islamist “fanatic” kills the Social Welfare Minister of Punjab, Zile Huma Usman, in Gujranwala. Federal Minister for Frontier Regions, Sardar Yar Mohammad Rind, survives an attempt on his life in Sani, Balochistan. An Afghan refugee is beheaded in North Waziristan for allegedly being a US spy.
February 21: At least seven people are injured in two separate landmine explosions in Balochistan.
February 23: A bomb explodes in Mastung, Balochistan. No casualties are reported.
February 24: Three suspected militants are killed near Multan when the explosives they were carrying detonated. The police linked two of them to the banned Sipah Sahaba Pakistan organization. Militants fire a rocket at a grid station in Quetta, disrupting power. February 25: A rocket attack claims three lives in Kohlu, Balochistan. Insurgents damage a railway track near Quetta. A Balochistan Constabulary check-post is attacked in Khuzdar. Insurgents damage the main railway track near Dera Murad Jamali, severing rail links with Quetta for the second time in 24 hours.
February 26: A rocket attack partially damages a police station in Bannu. A bomb explosion is reported in Mastung, Balochistan.
February 27: The Kalat District Coordination Officer’s home is attacked with a grenade. March 1: A madrassa teacher is killed by Taliban militants for allegedly spying for the US. His body is found in Jandola, South Waziristan.

March 2: Three policemen are killed as a high-intensity remote-controlled bomb is detonated in Multan. Nine others are wounded, including an anti-terrorist court judge. March 5: Two tribesmen accused of spying for US forces are killed by militants in North Waziristan.
March 7: A bomb explodes near a vehicle carrying pro-government tribal elders in Sui, Balochistan, killing one and injuring twelve.
March 17: A rocket intended for the Quetta Garrison hits a civilian residential building. A Rockets are fired at a Paramilitary troops camp in Kohlu, Balochistan.
March 20: A police vehile is attacked with a hand-grenade in Quetta, injuring two.
March 22: Two rockets explode in Quetta.
March 27: Terrorists attack an Inter-Services Intelligence vehicle in Bajaur Agency, NWFP, killing four officials. Militants detonate dynamite a few yards away from the ICRC office in Peshawar, which was also bombed on February 10, 2007.
March 29: At least one soldier is killed, and seven injured, in a suicide attack at a military training ground in Kharian.

April 13: A landmine explosion in Kohlu, Balochistan, kills three soldiers.
April 16: Three children are killed and four people are wounded in a hand-grenade attack in the outskirts of Peshawar.
April 22: Three children are killed in an explosion in Mastung, Balochistan. Police say two motorcyclists hurled an explosive device into the house.
April 23: A bomb blast partially damages a family planning office in Kalat, Balochistan.
April 27: A bomb damages the boundary wall of the Balochistan University of Information Technology and Management Sciences in Quetta. Missiles fired from Afghanistan hit the Darul-Uloom Hassania seminary in Saidgi, North Waziristan, killing four. The seminary belongs to tribal militant commander Maulahan Noor Mohammed, who had signed a peace deal with the government in September 2006.
April 28: A suicide attack kills thirty one in Charsada, NWFP. The Interior Minister Aftab Sherpao, and his son, were among the several wounded.
April 29: One soldier and three militants are killed as an army check-post in Naridog, North Waziristan, is attacked. Militans in South Waziristan kill two men for being US spies.

May 14: A US military officer and a Pakistani soldier are killed while several are injured as their convoy is attacked following a flag meeting near the Pakistan-Afghanistan border.
May 15: A suicide bomber attacks the Marhaba Hotel in Peshawar, killing twenty five. May 28: Two FC personnel are killed as a suicide bomber rams his explosive-laden car into an FC vehicle in Bannu.
May 30: Militants enter the house of a senior government official in Tank, NWFP, shooting dead thirteen people, including two women.

June 2: An explosion kills five, including a senior tribal journalist, in Bajaur Agency. June 8: A bomb explodes on a bus in Hub, Balochistan. Three are killed and seven sustain injuries.

June 14: Unidentified militants attack a van in Quetta, killing nine, including seven army soldiers.
July 3: A terrorist, perched atop a house near the Chaklala Air Base in Rawalpindi, tries to shoot down General Pervez Musharraf’s aircraft. A terrorist attack in Swat claims several lives, and injures the District Police Officer of Swat.

July 4: A suicide attack on a caravan in North Waziristan claims eleven lives. A police station in Mata, Swat, is attacked with rockets, killing a police officer and injuring four. The attacked followed calls for jihad against the government by a local Islamist FM radio station in retaliation for the Red Mosque confrontation in Islamabad.
July 5: Four men die as terrorists attack a police patrol in Peshawar. Rockets are fired at a Pakistan Army post in Landi Kotal, NWFP. A suicide attack in Swat leaves four dead, including two army officers.
July 6: Six tribal leaders allied to the government are kidnapped and then killed in North Waziristan.
July 8: Armed men attack a police patrol in Peshawar, killing the Assistant Sub-Inspector of the NWFP Police, and seriously wounding three others.
July 10: A bomb explosion kills eleven, including the Deputy Superintendant of Police (DSP).
July 12: Rocket attacks and a bomb explosion claim eight lives in Mingora, Swat. Terrorists fire rockets at an FC check-post in Bajaur Agency.
July 13: Terrorist kidnap and kill three tribal leaders who were allies of the government during the operation in North Waziristan.
July 14: A suicide car-bomber rams into a paramilitary convoy, killing twenty four soldiers and wounding twenty nine. Three policemen are killed at the Bannu airport by a remotely-detonated bomb. A soldier is killed as army personnel conducting relief operations for flood victims are attacked
July 15: Two bombers attack a convoy near Mingora, Swat, killing at least 18, including thirteen paramilitary troops. A suicide bomber kills at least twenty six, mostly police officials, at a police recruitment center in Dera Ismail Khan.
July 17: A suicide bomber blows himself up near a stage prepared for the Chief Justice of Pakistan in Islamabad, killing twelve.
July 18: A convoy is attacked in North Waziristan, killing 17 troops.
July 19: A suicide bombing at a mosque in Kohat’s cantonment area leaves seventeen dead, including three children. Terrorists fire rockets at a check-post at the Mian Shah Bazaar in North Waziristan. A car-bomb, targeting Chinese engineers, claims 30 lives in Hub, Balochistan. A suicide bomber kills eight police officials at the Police Training Center in Hangu, NWFP. Terrorists attack a security forces check-post in Mirah Shah, killing four.
July 21: Terrorists detonate bombs at six security forces check-posts in Miran Shah.
July 22: A convoy is attacked with a remotely detonated device, injuring eight soldiers