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Islamism - 7 - Husky - 07-19-2009

Have people already posted on this?

Friday 17 July, bomb attacks at Marriot and Ritz Carlton hotels in Jakarta. (Let's take a wild guess: Islamists.)

Police still investigating, but find it reminiscent of one islamic group - Jeemah Islamiyah - which had also attacked Marriot previously. If not them, I'm guessing it will be some other set of shaheedis trying to take down some 'European Infidels'.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Police may have found Jakarta bomber's laptop</b>

    * Story Highlights
    * NEW: Police recover laptop that they believe belonged to one of the bombers
    * Hotel bombs similar to those linked to notorious militant fugitive
    * Nine dead, including at least two suicide bombers, and 50 injured
    * Unexploded bomb found on 18th floor of Marriott hotel in Jakarta

JAKARTA, Indonesia (CNN) -- Indonesian police have recovered a laptop that they believe belonged to one of the bombers of Friday's twin hotel attacks in Jakarta, the country's official news agency said Sunday.
Police investigate the aftermath of a bomb blast at a restaurant in the Marriot hotel in Jakarta.

The laptop contained information and codes that the attackers may have used to communicate with each other, the state-run Antara News Agency said.

The computer was found in a room at the Ritz Carlton, one of two hotels targeted Friday. The other site was the JW Marriott.

The blasts killed nine people -- including at least two presumed suicide bombers -- and wounded more than 50.

Anti-terrorism officials are investigating the links between the attacks and Noordin M. Top, the suspected leader of a small Jemaah Islamiyah splinter group. The group has ties to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda terrorist network, but so far there has been no claim of responsibility for the latest attack.

Top is reportedly an officer, recruiter, bomb-maker, and trainer for the group, which was involved in a previous attack on the Marriott -- in August 2003 -- as well as attacks on a Bali nightclub in 2003 and the Australian embassy in Jakarta in 2004, according to the FBI.

Among the victims who have been identified by Indonesia's health ministry, two were Australian, and one each from New Zealand, Singapore and Indonesia.

Among the wounded were six U.S. nationals, according to the State Department.

On Sunday, Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd confirmed one of the victims, saying Garth McEvoy was the first government official to be killed by a terrorist attack in the line of duty.

Rudd also said two other Australians were presumed dead.
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Indonesia's National Police Chief Gen. Bambang Hendarso has said the type of explosives found were similar to those found in a recent raid on a home in West Java that was linked to Top.

"We cannot clearly determine at this time if these bombings are linked to Noordin Top's network. We have only established similarities in the explosive cache that were found in the island of Java and the Bali bombings," police said.

Closed-circuit television footage from the Marriott shows a man, sporting a baseball cap and pulling a wheeled suitcase, heading toward the hotel's lobby-level restaurant seconds before the deadly blast.

Didik Ahmad Taufik, the Marriott's security supervisor, told reporters Saturday that a man, matching the image on the security camera footage, was walking "awkwardly" into the hotel's restaurant about 30 minutes before the blast.

The man told Taufik he was at the hotel to deliver an item to his boss.
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Taufik said he asked a security guard to accompany the man as he made his delivery.

"But unluckily, a few minutes after that, I heard an explosion and was hit by debris from the ceiling," Taufik said, according to Antara.

One of the suspected bombers had been staying at the hotel since June 15, he said.

The bombings at the two luxury hotels -- which are connected by an underground tunnel -- happened shortly before 8 a.m. (9 p.m. Thursday ET). Both blasts struck the hotels' restaurants.

The hotels are frequented by international visitors and many foreign nationals.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Bomber likely entered Ritz-Carlton via tunnel from JW Marriot</b>

The Jakarta Post ,  Jakarta  |  Sun, 07/19/2009 11:50 AM  |  National

A suicide bomber at the Ritz-Calrton Jakarta hotel likely entered the hotel via an underground tunnel from JW Marriot, reported Sunday.

A Hotel staff told that a few minutes before the explosion, he saw a man in a black suit with white shirt carrying a backpack and lugging a suitcase walking from J.W. Marriot moments after the bomb exploded at Marriot.

"I'm sure he is the bomber," the staff said.

The tunnel, he said, was only used for employees, but the man escaped inspection because security was in disarray following explosion at Marriot.

From the tunnel, the man allegedly walked toward Airlangga restaurant and moment later the bomb exploded.

Meanwhile, police sources told that the police were identifying a woman whose body was most destroyed, indicating that the woman could be the suicide bomber at Ritz Carlton.

The bombing at Ritz Carlton killed three people, including the suicide bomber, while the bombing at Marriot killed six.

The twin hotel bombings injured more than 50 people.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Jeemah Islamiyah: Islamist social movement with global ambitions</b>

Jason Burke looks at the complex structure of the Indonesian extremist group suspected of the Jakarta hotel bombings

          o, Friday 17 July 2009 15.06 BST

(ImageSmile Indonesian cleric Abu Bakar Bashir

The co-founder of Jemaah Islamiyah, Abu Bakar Bashir, is not believed to be in a position to instigate attacks. Photograph: Jewel Samad/AFP/Getty Images

As the Indonesian president, Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, immediately and rightly pointed out, it is too early to say who is responsible for the two bomb attacks in Jakarta today. But there is one obvious prime suspect: the extremist organisation Jemaah Islamiyah (JI), which in various guises has been linked to all the other large-scale "spectacular" strikes in Indonesia since 2002.

The bombings are the first for four years and come a week after peaceful presidential polls which are set to see the pro-US Yudhoyono confirmed as victor when official results are announced in two weeks. The attacks show the tenacity of Islamic extremism in the world's largest Muslim-majority nation despite pressure from Indonesian security forces, the arrest of its top leaders and a failure to attract more than a tiny minority of the population. They also demonstrate the ability of Islamic militancy to exist without direct links to al-Qaida's leadership in Pakistan.

JI has evolved significantly since the 2002 Bali bombings that killed more than 200 people, mainly western tourists, and brought it to global attention. Since then, and as with such movements elsewhere, it has become more complex and fragmented.

Mainstream JI factions now oppose violence unless it is in direct defence of threatened Muslim communities – understood as those caught up in Indonesia's periodic bouts of sectarian violence. <b>Instead, they believe the best way to realise their eventual goal of an Islamic state in Indonesia and across much of south-east Asia is dawa, or proselytisation.</b>
(What? Like in Malaysia: declaring all those who are born ethnic Malays as being automatically islamic? And where the body of Hindu soldiers who have passed away are stolen and buried in islamic fashion and declared islamists?)

JI's co-founder, the cleric Abu Bakar Bashir who was imprisoned in the wake of the Bali bombings and then controversially acquitted, continues to use violent language but is not believed to be in a position to actively instigate attacks even if he wished to do so.

However, a hardline fringe of JI believes the moderates have sold out.

Constituting a loose network on the margins of the organisation, rather than a coherent faction, the most prominent among the hardliners is Noorudin Mohammed Top. According to Australian security sources, the Malaysian-born recruiter and bomb-maker was responsible for the attack on the JW Marriot hotel in Jakarta in 2003, the suicide bombing of the Australian embassy in 2004, and a second round of bombings in Bali in 2005.

Top has been on the run for many years – which in itself indicates that JI continues to maintain sufficient safehouses and have enough sympathisers to keep key leaders out of the hands of security forces. He and a new generation of radicals have the potential to launch more attacks, according to Dr Carl Ungerer, at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute. Some JI members who have been released from prison after a deradicalisation programme could also pose a threat, Ungerer argues.

An insight into the nature of JI cell recruitment came during a trial in April when 10 men involved in a jihadist group in the city of Palembang, south Sumatra, were jailed for killing a Christian teacher and planning more ambitious attacks. The case showed how a local non-violent religious study circle, unaffiliated to JI, had been gradually turned into a militant jihadi group. This was done through contact with two charismatic and influential individuals who were able to radicalise group members by playing on pre-existing beliefs and fears. The first big step, according to an International Crisis Group report into the case, was getting the members to consider violence against the Christian missionaries they had only previously preached against.

This local element gave the global ideology of violent jihad more immediacy and thus more purchase. Once the group was willing to kill, it became possible to suggest a broader range of targets, including western civilians. The recruits' motivation often flagged – requiring constant boosting by the more motivated leaders – and their tradecraft was poor, leading to several amateurish errors. But they nonetheless posed a significant threat and demonstrate how Islamic radicalism in the region is often closer in structure to a social movement than a hierarchical militant organisation.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Islamism - 7 - HareKrishna - 07-19-2009

Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an?

Islamism - 7 - HareKrishna - 08-07-2009

<!--QuoteBegin-HareKrishna+Jul 19 2009, 01:54 PM-->QUOTE(HareKrishna @ Jul 19 2009, 01:54 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an?
another youtube clown

Islamism - 7 - Guest - 08-08-2009

<b>A fifth of European Union will be Muslim by 2050</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Britain, Spain and Holland will have an even higher proportion of Muslims in a shorter amount of time, an investigation by The Telegraph shows.
Last year, five per cent of the total population of the 27 EU countries was Muslim. But rising levels of immigration from Muslim countries and low birth rates among Europe's indigenous population mean that, by 2050, the figure will be 20 per cent, according to forecasts.
Data gathered from various sources indicate that Britain, Spain and Holland will have an even higher proportion of Muslims in a shorter amount of time.

The UK, which currently has 20 million fewer people than Germany, is also projected to be the EU's most populous country by 2060, with 77 million people.
<b>The findings have led to allegations that policy-makers are failing to confront the widespread challenges of the "demographic time bomb"</b>.

Experts say that there has been a lack of debate on how the population changes will affect areas of life from education and housing to foreign policy and pensions.
Although some polls have pointed to a lack of radicalisation in the Muslim community, little attention is being given to the integration of migrants,<b> it is claimed, with fears of social unrest in years to come</b>.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Islamism - 7 - HareKrishna - 08-20-2009

Model who drank beer to be first woman caned in Malaysia
Muslim model Kartika Sari Dewi Shukarno has become the first woman in Malaysia to be sentenced to a caning after being caught drinking beer in a beach resort.

1. Country with <5% of Islamic population: Discussion topic like this.

2. Country with 5-15% of Islamic population: demonstrations, protests, boogie-boogie with the rights of minorities (ie additional), the special cases (Burke in schools, swimming pools etc, driving licenses with the girl covered exclusively halal stores - even if in contradiction to the law of animal slaughter, etc.)

3. Country with 15-30% of Islamic population: attacks against those of other religious / ethnic cleansing, terrorist movements aiming at self-inhabited areas of pop. Islamic.

4. Country with 30-60% of Islamic population: the code is embedded in Islamic law, Islamized mass population (by money or violence), etc..

5. Country with over 60% of the population Islam: Islamic country. Any debate is forbidden, any "insult" to the violent islamultui punished. Conversions + mass genocide. In just a few decades, and sometimes less, the non-Islam decreases dramatically.

Islamism - 7 - Guest - 08-25-2009
Sufi visit to HKL, Phoenix Mauritius 1.06.09
Muslim praying Hare Rama Krishna.

Islamism - 7 - dhu - 08-30-2009

More from the votaries of peace...

<b>Protesters threaten bloodshed over Hindu temple</b>

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->SHAH ALAM, Aug 28 — A group of Malay-Muslim protesters claiming to be residents of Section 23 have<b> threatened bloodshed unless the state government stopped the construction of a Hindu Temple.</b>

<b>Amid chants of "Allahuakbar," the group also left the severed head of a cow at the entrance of the State Secretariat </b>here as a warning to Selangor Mentri Besar Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim.

The "residents" said that the construction of a Hindu temple in a 90 per cent Malay- Muslim neighbourhood was insensitive because activities there would disrupt their lives.

They claimed that the <b>"noise" from the temple would disturb their own praying, and that they would not be able to function properly as Muslims.</b>

The group of 50 over protestors marched shortly after Friday prayers from the Shah Alam State mosque to the State Secretariat.

“I challenge YB Khalid, YB Rodziah and Xavier Jeyakumar to go on with the temple construction.<b> I guarantee bloodshed and racial tension will happen if this goes on, and the state will be held responsible,” shouted Ibrahim Haji Sabri </b>amid strong chants of “Allahu Akbar!”

Ibrahim identified himself as the Deputy Chairman of the Resident’s Committee against the building of the temple in S23 here, which is perceived by some as being a Muslim majority area.

He told the press that the state should move the temple to Section 22 as ‘originally planned’, and also labelled Khalid a “traitor to the Malay race and Islam”.

It is understood that the protest is an immediate reaction towards the Selangor MB’s visit to the Hindu temple site yesterday, an act seen by the "residents" as disrespectful to the Muslims of the community.
Mohd. Zurit Bin Ramli, who claims to be the secretary of the "Coalition of Malaysian NGOs" echoed Ibrahim’s stand on the matter, saying that it was irresponsible on the part of the state government to approve the construction as there was apparently a “90 per cent” majority Muslim population in Section 23.

“With a temple on our residential area, we cannot function properly as Muslims. The temple will disrupt our daily activities like prayers in the Surau. We cannot concentrate with the sounds coming from the temple,” stated Zurit.

When asked whether members of the protest were affiliated with any organisations or movements, Ibrahim claimed that the people present today were members of PAS, PKR as well as Umno who are “united in the name of Islam and the Malay spirit.”

The state government was also accused of lying to the people of Selangor.

The Chairman of the Residents Committee, Mahyuddin Manaf excitedly proclaimed that the committee would uncover “the lies” and find proof of the state’s misconduct.

“Khalid Ibrahim wears a mask of a Muslim, but in truth he is a liberal. PAS stands to lose out as a result. I voted for PAS as well as Khalid in the past elections,” Mahyuddin claimed.

The issue first cropped up when the Selangor government proposed that the Sri Mariamman temple be relocated from Section 19 to Section 23.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Islamism - 7 - Naresh - 09-07-2009

<b>Don’t pray for ‘infidel’ downfall : Saudi cleric</b>

RIYADH : Muslims should avoid prayers that call for the destruction of non-Muslims, an influential Saudi cleric said. Many mosque Imams and preachers in some Muslim countries, including Saudi Arabia, close their Friday sermons with prayers that call for the destruction of Islam’s enemies, especially Israel and its allies. “Praying for the ruin and the destruction of all infidels is not permitted because it goes against God’s law to call upon them ... to take the righteous path,” Sheikh Salman al Awdah told Dubai-based MBC Television channel. “Calling for their offspring and ancestors to be eradicated is not legitimate ... (except) for the tyrants among the infidels and those who violate the sanctities and harm the faithful,” he said. Awdah, whose criticism of the Saudi ruling family in the 1990s earned him praise from Osama Bin Laden, has since denounced the Saudi-born Al Qaeda leader and said his network was responsible for the deaths of many innocent people. Saudi Arabia has had mixed success in persuading influential clerics to discourage radical ideology, which espouses violence against non-Muslims as well as Muslims or Muslim governments seen as a un-Islamic. Awdah is a director of the Arabic edition of the website Islam Today and he has a number of TV shows and newspapers articles. Bin Laden had cited Awdah’s writings in his statements before the latter urged him last year to abandon violence. reuters

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Islamism - 7 - Guest - 09-08-2009

<b>The Rise of Salafism in the Netherlands</b>

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Illustration from page 37 of the Dawa report of the AIVD (Dutch Intelligence Service): “Eight types of threat from radical Islam” [Note from the Baron — the reduction in size to fit within the post width has made this somewhat difficult to read]

Islamism - 7 - Husky - 09-30-2009

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Wednesday, September 30, 2009
<b>Egypt anger over virginity faking</b>
sep 30th, 2009

limeys should be pleased about the existence of this device. after all, <b>the national health service in limey-land has been paying for hymen repair as part of multi-culturalism and appeasement of mohammedan females!</b>

hmmm... while arabs/pakis are out there bagging non-mohammedan females through romeo-jihad, their females are bonking any available guy, apparently. serves them right.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Shahryar

<b>Egypt anger over virginity faking</b>
By Magdi Abdelhadi

BBC Arab Affairs analyst

<b>A leading Egyptian scholar has demanded that people caught importing a female virginity-faking device into the country should face the death penalty.</b>

Abdul Mouti Bayoumi said supplying the item was akin to spreading vice in society, a crime punishable by death in Islamic Sharia law.

The device is said to release liquid imitating blood, allowing a female to feign virginity on her wedding night.

There is a stigma about pre-marital sex in conservative Arab societies.

The contraption is seen as a cheap and simple alternative to hymen repair surgery, which is carried out in secret by some clinics in the Middle East.

It is produced in China and has already become available in other parts of the Arab world.

The device is reported to be on sale in Syria for $15.

Professor Bayoumi, a scholar at the prestigious al-Azhar University, said it undermined the moral deterrent of fornication, which he described as a crime and one of the cardinal sins in Islam.

Members of parliament in Egypt have also called for banning import of the item.
Story from BBC NEWS:
Published: 2009/09/28 16:53:36 GMT


Posted by nizhal yoddha at 9/30/2009 06:43:00 AM 0 comments <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not really interested in issues concerning virginity. But the point is the hypocrisy in islam.
- For islamaniac men, they are banned from walking with - let alone having pre-marital sexual relations with or assaulting - islamaniac women. Not that that stops the male faithfuls, consider the many rape cases of muslimahs in islamaniac countries.
- At the same time, islamaniac men are encouraged to target, kidnap, assault, etcetera kaffiri women.

Heathen response to the Sexual Jihad ought to be along the lines of Israel protecting its females by educating them about 1) islamania and 2) the Sexual Jihad:

Islamism - 7 - HareKrishna - 10-07-2009

Germany Has 1 Million More Muslims than Previously Thought,632290,00.html

Islamism - 7 - agnivayu - 10-10-2009

Looks like this spineless weakling of a Hindu converted to the mad religion. The FBI should check him out, he may have joined Al Qaeda, who else converts to Islam?]My Webpage[/URL]

Ask the Scholar Print E-mail
By IFN Staff
Dear Scholar:
My wife and I have been married for 9 years now and were originally married in the Hindu religion. Six years into our marriage, I found Islam and have been practicing ever since. Do I need to leave my wife because she is a Hindu? I have two children with this woman and I feel as though I have an obligation to stay in the marriage in order to give them the best chance of being raised Islamically. My wife has no problem with me raising them as Muslims. My thought is that I need to give her time to convert as I was not a Muslim when we got married. I’ve made a commitment to myself and told her that there will be no intimacy between us unless she becomes Muslim and I feel that is a sacrifice I am making for my deen in order to stay and raise my children. Let me commence my praying that Allah, in His infinite mercy, makes your present situation easy. May the results of these testing times be positive and a means of elevation and salvation in the Hereafter.

The general Shari ruling is the Nikah is not permissible between a Muslim and a polytheist, male or female. In your particular case, the dimension of children has made it much more sensitive.

When one partner accepts Islam and the other partner is Mushrik (polytheist), a reasonable time frame is given to the Muslim partner to present Islam to their partner.

Acceptance of Islam would result in the marriage remaining intact.

There is no specified period of time and every case is different in nature.

In an Islamic society, where custody of the children would generally go to the Muslim partner, that time frame may be a few weeks as decided by the legal authority governing the Shari affairs of that society.

Here, in the absence of such governance, the Islamic identity of the children is at stake. My advice to you is to continue your efforts of Da’wah (inviting) with your spouse.

Use every available means and seek counsel from the Dawah and Outreach committee of your local Islamic center.

Present to her the aspects of Islam that are common with her cultural affiliations and continue to be compassionate, tolerant and understanding.

Play the excellent role of a father and provider. Show her all the qualities of a decent husband without intimacy, which you have wisely avoided.

On the question of that time frame, it is necessary that your efforts in explaining Islam be assessed before anybody can tell you to give up your noble cause and move on.

Your attempts, as frustrating as they may seem today, will one day be an immense source of reward, in sha' Allah.

I would advise you at this time to become an important factor in the life of your children.

In the unfortunate event of your wife choosing to remain Hindu, resulting in a termination of your marriage, your influence upon the life decisions of your children should be present.

They should have a Muslim identity and be part of the community. Bring mom to the Masjid and enroll them for every possible Islamic program.

These investments will yield results, no matter the outcome of your marriage.

May Allah guide you, your spouse, and the entire world. Ameen.

Shaikh Junaid Kharsany
IFN Religious Advisory Board

If you have a question to ask the scholars of the IFN Religious Advisory Board, please submit it to

Islamism - 7 - HareKrishna - 10-12-2009

sugestive cartoons

islamic KKK

Islamism - 7 - G.Subramaniam - 10-24-2009

Lucknow: A legislator of the Bahujan Samaj Party, which governs Uttar Pradesh and claims to champion Dalits' welfare, and 20 of his supporters have been booked for arson and violence against Dalits in Sant Kabir Nagar district, the police said on Saturday.

A criminal case has been slapped against Tabish Khan, who along with his supporters allegedly assaulted members of a Dalit family over a land dispute in Rajediha village in Sant Kabir Nagar, some 250 km from Lucknow.

"The complainant Hariram, a resident of Rajediha village, has alleged that Khan and his supporters, who were armed with guns and sticks, barged into his house and assaulted him and his family members," Additional Superintendent of Police Arvind Bhushan Pandey told IANS on phone.

"The victim approached us Friday evening and showed us the injury marks. He told police that the legislator and his supporters assaulted him and family members over a land dispute, and also set fire to his belongings before leaving the place," he added.

According to police, Khan, who has also been booked under the SC/ST (Scheduled Castes/Scheduled Tribes) Act, is absconding along with his supporters.

Khan is the legislator from Khesrala assembly constituency of Sant Kabir Nagar.

Raids are being carried out to nab the legislator and his aides, police said.

The legislator has been booked under various sections of the Indian Penal Code (IPC), including 323 (Punishment for voluntarily causing hurt), 504 (Insult intended to provoke breach of peace) and 506 (Punishment for criminal intimidation).

Islamism - 7 - Guest - 10-25-2009


Islamism - 7 - Naresh - 11-06-2009

[center]<b><span style='color:green'>YOU CAN TAKE THEM OUT OF TERRORISM BUT YOU CANNOT TAKE THE TERRORISM OUT OF THEM!</span></b>[/center]

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Islamism - 7 - ramana - 11-06-2009

Am currrently reading "Psychoanalysis And The Challenge of Islam". The book takes of from Freud's "Moses and Monotheism" and is fascinating so far.


<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Psychoanalysis and the Challenge of Islam

Fethi Benslama
Translated by Robert Bononno

Unveils the psychoanalytic undercurrents of contemporary Islam.

Fethi Benslama is a psychoanalyst who, although a secular thinker, identifies himself as a person of Muslim culture who rejects ready-made explanations for Islamic fundamentalism. In that spirit, <b>Benslama demythifies both Islam and Western ideas of the religion by addressing the psychoanalytic root causes of the Muslim world’s clash with modernity and subsequent turn to fundamentalism.</b>

Tracing this ideological strain to its origins, <b>Benslama shows that contemporary Islam consists of a fairly recent hybridization of Arab nationalism, theocracy, and an attempt (both naïve and deadly) to ground science in faith.</b> Combining textual analysis and Lacanian and Freudian psychoanalysis, he examines Islam’s foundation, providing fresh readings of the book of Genesis, the Koran, The Arabian Nights, and the work of medieval Islamic philosophers.

Refreshingly, <b>Benslama</b> writes without ideological bias and <b>undoes the simplistic, Western view of Islam while refusing to romanticize terrorism or Muslim extremism. This is a penetrating work that reveals an alternate history of the Islamic religion and opens new possibilities for its future development.</b>

Fethi Benslama teaches at the University of Paris VII and is the editor of the psychoanalytic journal Intersignes.

272 pages | 2 b&w photos | 6 x 9 | 2009



1. The Torment of Origin

2. The Repudiation of Origin

3. Destinies of the Other Woman

4. Within Himself



Islamism - 7 - G.Subramaniam - 11-07-2009

Ramana, my personal website on islamic demographics

Frequently this issue gets raised in various forums

Islamism - 7 - ramana - 11-13-2009

On the recent Deobandi shindig Balbir Punj comments in Pioneer, 12 Nov 2009

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->EDITS | Friday, November 13, 2009 | Email | Print |

Fanatics to the fore again

Balbir K Punj

<b>The face of ‘change’ that was seen at Deoband when the 30th annual session of the Jamiat Ulama-i-Hind attracted an impressive gathering of several thousand Islamic clerics and other religious leaders was soon exposed to be nothing more than cosmetic.</b> The meeting had a Hindu religious scholar reciting from the Vedas and the very popular Baba Ramdev preaching and demonstrating the benefits of pranayam. <b>Apart from these welcome gestures, the meeting was a huge disappointment for all those who expected the Jamiat to lead the Muslim community into the 21st century.</b>

<b>The 25 resolutions adopted at the meeting are a throwback to the seventh and eighth centuries. Among other things, they espouse no cinema, no television and no reservation for women in legislatures since these are supposed to be ‘un-Islamic’.</b> Cinema being against the tenets of Islam is ridiculous as <b>many of Bollywood’s personalities are Muslims. From Shah Rukh Khan to Saif Ali Khan, the Khans are the dominant actors in the film industry. Then there are numerous Muslim writers, lyricists, music composers, directors, etc.</b>  <!--emo&Sad--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

<b>The worst display of ultra-orthodoxy has come in the form of the resolution rejecting women’s representation in legislatures. The reason given is that by bringing women into the mainstream various ‘social problems’ will crop up. The clerics are simply using religion as an excuse to reject gender equality.</b>

While all this shameful display of orthodoxy may be the Jamiat’s interpretation of Islam, <b>the important question is what was Union Home Minister P Chidambaram doing at the meeting? His attendance has given the gathering a sort of Government approval. Why did he remain silent when the clerics were challenging and rejecting the fundamentals of Indian democracy? What was he doing quietly listening to the antediluvian rhetoric at the event?</b>

True, Mr Chidambaram did speak on the liberating influence of education and how it empowers our children. <b>He could have clarified that when he said children he meant both boys and girls. </b>He could have referred to the widespread reluctance within the Muslim community to send girls to secular schools after the age of 10. How could a Minister of this Government that has time and again underlined its commitment to giving 33 per cent reservation to women in legislatures lend the prestige of the Union Home Minister’s presence to a meeting that condemns this very reservation as unacceptable?  <!--emo&Sad--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

<b>Then there is the resolution rejecting the singing of the National Song, Vande Mataram. The reiteration of an old fatwa that the National Song is ‘un-Islamic’ has come as a snub to the Congress which made the song the source of inspiration during the freedom struggle.</b> Thousands of Muslim patriots have participated in the singing of this inspiring song, marching shoulder-to-shoulder with others against India’s colonial rulers. <b>AR Rahman, a Muslim, has created a popular rendition of Vande Mataram.</b>  <!--emo&Tongue--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Asked on a TV channel whether that makes the Oscar-winning Rahman less of a Muslim, the moving spirit of the Jamiat, Maulana Mahmood Madani, ducked the question. But can Mr Chidambaram answer as to how could a Congressman and a Union Minister remain silent about the anti-National Song rhetoric? And as for the clerics’ objection that the song deifies the motherland, eminent scholars have refuted this charge. <b>It only personifies the nation as Mother India. </b>

The Union Home Minister has spoken at Deoband about the majority community’s duty to protect the minority community. No one can take exception to this call. <b>But why did he fail to point out that this rule has not been followed where Muslims are in majority, as in the Kashmir Valley from where all Hindu Pandits have been driven out?</b> The selective application of this principle of duty of the majority community to protect the minority community is the <b>fundamental shortcoming of our ‘secularists’ </b>and their organisations.  <!--emo&Sad--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

It is this<b> selective application of ‘secularism’ that is a greater threat to our national unity. This has emboldened sectarian leaders to push their communal agenda at the expense of nationalism. The Deoband meeting, for instance, has called upon the Muslim youth to emphasise their separate Muslim identity. </b>And of all the people Mr Chidambaram should be aware as the Union Home Minister how ‘separate identities’ often turn into separatism.

<b>The Jamiat clerics have no doubt condemned terrorism and drawn a line to separate the religious fervour of jihad from terrorism. </b>However, the fervour with which the Jamiat meeting has called for local committees to enforce ‘social reform and religious practices’ does not go so far as to ask them to isolate the preachers of virulent jihadi doctrine and to identify those who recruit youth to turn them into terrorists.

The Union Home Minister was eloquent in condemning the demolition of Babri Masjid. But he shied away from calling a spade a spade when <b>the clerics surrounding him were busy demolishing all symbols of national identity while re-emphasising their separate identity not only in terms of dress and language but even the manner in which Muslims should greet others.</b> :?: Mr Chidambaram’s silence is in line with the attitude of our ‘secularists’ whose otherwise loud rhetoric goes mute in the face of Islamic orthodoxy.



Islamism - 7 - Bharatvarsh - 11-13-2009

Why should women get "reservations" in the first place?

Equality does not mean special privileges for one gender.