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India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - HareKrishna - 11-02-2009 <!--QuoteBegin-Husky+Nov 1 2009, 01:24 PM-->QUOTE(Husky @ Nov 1 2009, 01:24 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--> the air-force is the only viable strategic option in the NE agains the chinese. that is because the chinese troo the truth is coming out. our hydrogen bomb failed, so china can do whatever it wants to us. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> India don't have even reliable nuclear missiles ;relay more on bomber planes to drop nuke-bombs which are less efficient then nuclear missiles India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - acharya - 11-04-2009 <!--QuoteBegin-HareKrishna+Nov 1 2009, 06:42 PM-->QUOTE(HareKrishna @ Nov 1 2009, 06:42 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--> India don't have even reliable nuclear missiles ;relay more on bomber planes to drop nuke-bombs which are less efficient then nuclear missiles [right][snapback]102328[/snapback][/right] <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Where is the proof. Indicate where does it say that India does not have reliable nuclear missles India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - HareKrishna - 11-04-2009 <!--QuoteBegin-acharya+Nov 4 2009, 03:08 AM-->QUOTE(acharya @ Nov 4 2009, 03:08 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-HareKrishna+Nov 1 2009, 06:42 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(HareKrishna @ Nov 1 2009, 06:42 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--> India don't have even reliable nuclear missiles ;relay more on bomber planes to drop nuke-bombs which are less efficient then nuclear missiles [right][snapback]102328[/snapback][/right] <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Where is the proof. Indicate where does it say that India does not have reliable nuclear missles [right][snapback]102351[/snapback][/right] <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1292/1 India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - acharya - 11-04-2009 <!--QuoteBegin-HareKrishna+Nov 3 2009, 06:28 PM-->QUOTE(HareKrishna @ Nov 3 2009, 06:28 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--> http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1292/1 [right][snapback]102357[/snapback][/right] <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> That is a western propaganda. We need objective source here. Western news source is biased against India. India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - HareKrishna - 11-05-2009 <!--QuoteBegin-acharya+Nov 4 2009, 10:38 PM-->QUOTE(acharya @ Nov 4 2009, 10:38 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-HareKrishna+Nov 3 2009, 06:28 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(HareKrishna @ Nov 3 2009, 06:28 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--> http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1292/1 [right][snapback]102357[/snapback][/right] <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> That is a western propaganda. We need objective source here. Western news source is biased against India. [right][snapback]102362[/snapback][/right] <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Supposedly the West is pro-India.Didn't West support democracy? India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - acharya - 11-05-2009 <!--QuoteBegin-HareKrishna+Nov 4 2009, 05:48 PM-->QUOTE(HareKrishna @ Nov 4 2009, 05:48 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--> Supposedly the West is pro-India.Didn't West support democracy? [right][snapback]102370[/snapback][/right] <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Does not matter. West also supports islmic dictators and totalitarian countries like China. Where is the proof that Indian armaments are not right India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - HareKrishna - 11-06-2009 <!--QuoteBegin-acharya+Nov 5 2009, 09:28 PM-->QUOTE(acharya @ Nov 5 2009, 09:28 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-HareKrishna+Nov 4 2009, 05:48 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(HareKrishna @ Nov 4 2009, 05:48 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--> Supposedly the West is pro-India.Didn't West support democracy? [right][snapback]102370[/snapback][/right] <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Does not matter. West also supports islmic dictators and totalitarian countries like China. Where is the proof that Indian armaments are not right [right][snapback]102374[/snapback][/right] <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I have no other site except the one above. India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - Guest - 11-06-2009 <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>After tough talk, India moves to appease China</b> pioneer.com PNS | New Delhi <b>Denies permit to foreign scribes to cover Dalaiâs Arunachal visit </b> Several foreign journalists have been denied permit to travel to Arunachal Pradesh to cover the Dalai Lamaâs visit to Tawang starting on November 8. The development comes in the backdrop of China opposing Dalai Lamaâs visit and India claiming the Buddhist spiritual head was free to go anywhere within the country. <b>The decision to deny these foreign journalists permission to cover the event will âpleaseâ China since it does not want Dalai Lama to get international publicity when visiting Arunachal Pradesh, which it considers a disputed territory.</b> While the Arunachal Pradesh Government denied that foreign journalists were denied permission to visit the State, the Associated Press (AP) said here on Thursday the Government revoked passes previously provided to four foreign journalists, including two AP reporters. âWe are incredibly surprised and disappointed to learn that reportersâ visas to Arunachal Pradesh have been cancelled ahead of the Dalai Lamaâs visit,â said Heather Timmons, president of the New Delhi-based Foreign Correspondentsâ Club, according to the AP. Government sources said that these journalists were denied the permit because they had not contacted the Centre and directly approached the Arunachal Pradesh administration. Chairman of the State-level reception committee TGR Rimpoche said he had heard of an advisory to restrict the movement of foreign journalists, âbut it is not in black and white. It may be verbal.â Rimpoche, a close aide of Dalai Lama and a former Minister, said according to his information some foreign journalists have reached Tawang and some more may go in the guise of tourists. âWe cannot drive them away from Tawang,â he said. The PTI reported from Itanagar that around 50 newsmen, including those representing foreign media, have so far contacted the administration of the border town of Tawang in Arunachal Pradesh for accommodation and permits to cover the visit of the Dalai Lama. Chief Secretary Tabom Bam denied having received any instruction from the Centre about restrictions on foreign mediapersons following the recent war of words between India and China over the visit. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> As Alexander Hamilton said, <b> A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one</b> Already tail is between legs. India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - Guest - 11-06-2009 <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>India downplays China's dam construction on Brahmaputra</b> pioneer.com PTI | New Delhi India on Thursday downplayed the issue of building of a dam by China on Brahmaputra river saying the construction site is 1,100 km away from the country's boundary. "The point where they were making a dam is 1,100 kilometres away from our boundary. It's a small dam and no reservoir as such. They already have such 15 dams there which they are using for local purposes," water resources minister P K Bansal said here. "For their run of the river, we have no right. Our concern should be that there is no diversion in existing flow of the 79 BCM water from the river into India. There is no evidence for any such diversion so far," Bansal said. "There is no cause of concern right now but we always have to be watchful," was the refrain of the minister when asked whether there was nothing to worry about the issue. His response came when asked about media reports that China has constructed a dam on the river as part of the Nagmu hydroelectric project which was inaugurated on March 16. He was speaking at a Rajya Sabha workshop on "Parliament and Media". The minister also informed that the government has decided to launch new projects in Arunachal Pradesh for the use of the 79 BCM water coming from the region, to strengthen India's claims on the right to use that water.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - Guest - 11-07-2009 <b>Comparing India and China</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Ryan Streeter, a fellow at the Legatum Institute, tells me that<b> âIndia beats China solidly owing to the way that its governance contributes to the economy. That is the democratic institutions index, where India is 36 and China 100. Couple that with other key measures of governance, freedom and social capitalâsocial capital is amazingly high in India, which is ranked fifth in the worldâand India is far more prosperous than its rivalâ</b>. <b>The social capital component is especially interesting. âIndian citizens report high levels of membership in community organizations, allowing for a broad network of social capital,â</b> the report concludes. Indians seem to be like Americans in this respect. When Alexis de Tocqueville published his magisterial account of the American experiment, Democracy in America, he was struck by the high degree of social capital he observed during his travels. <b>Americans were a nation of joiners, he witnessed. Indians seem to be similar in that regardâindeed, Indians are even ahead of the US on this metric, which ranks two spots behind, at seventh, in the world. And the reportâs authors note that high levels of social capital are needed to bolster human happiness</b>. My colleague at the American Enterprise Institute Roger Bate notes that<b> âChina outperforms India in both of the main economic sub-indices because it provides greater economic certainty to investors, receiving far more foreign investment than India. Still, the overall index implies that trouble is brewing for China as it loses out to India in all other sub-indices, especially in its lack of democracy and personal freedomâ.</b> ............... Indeed, on my visits to India, I am always struck at how vibrant Indian democracy is and how robustly pervasive the sense of personal freedom is. There is a rowdy, even chaotic, spirit in India that is refreshing and lively and is the hallmark of a free people enjoying their rights and liberties. There are, of course, areas in which India needs to make significant progress. Education, health, and safety and security are all areas in which Indiaâs performance is badly lagging much of the rest of the world. But the overall picture is quite encouraging. And in this version of the India versus China parlour game, we must tip our cap to India.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - Guest - 11-09-2009 <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Maoists getting weapons from China: Home Secretary</b> pioneer.com PTI | New Delhi Government on Sunday indicated that China may be a source of arms for Maoists with whom it is willing to have a dialogue but they should abjure violence. "Chinese are big smugglers... Suppliers of small arms. I am sure that the Maoists also get them," Pillai said when asked if the Naxals were having links with China. This is for the first time that someone high in the government has said that the Maoists are getting arms from China. He, however, said the government no information that the Maoists have any links with China except getting arms. "I do not think so, except getting arms," he told reporters on the sidelines of a function here.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Nothing new, same was happening with J&K terrorist . India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - Guest - 11-09-2009 <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Dalai Lama trashes China claim on Arunachal</b> pioneer.com Sukhendu Bhattacharya | Tawang Arrives to rousing welcome from people in Tawang Arriving in this border town to a rousing reception on a visit resented by China, the Dalai Lama on Sunday rebuffed it for objecting to his trip to Arunachal Pradesh and expressed surprise over its claims to Tawang, a revered seat of Buddhism. The 74-year-old Tibetan spiritual leader, who is visiting this remote Northeastern State after a gap of six years drawing international attention in the wake of Chinese protests, also rejected Beijingâs charge he was encouraging a separatist movement calling it baseless. The Nobel Laureate characterised his âemotionalâ visit to Tawang, which has strong ties to Tibet, as non-political. âIt is totally baseless on the part of the Chinese Communist Government to say that I am encouraging a separatist movement. My visit to Tawang is non-political and aimed at promoting universal brotherhood and nothing else,â he said. The Dalai Lama said the Peopleâs Liberation Army of China had occupied Tawang and nearly reached Bom Dila during the Sino-India war in 1962. âBut the then Chinese Government declared a unilateral ceasefire and withdrew (its forces). Now the Chinese have got different views. This is something which I really donât know. I am a little bit surprised,â he said in a clear reference to Chinese claims over Tawang. The Dalai was talking to newsmen after opening a museum at the 400-year-old Tawang Monastery here. China has strongly objected to the Dalai Lamaâs visit and in recent days it has stepped up rhetoric claiming Tawang and whole of Arunachal as part of their country. He said there was no point in holding talks with China on the Tibet issue unless Beijing spells out its policy on it. âIt is quite usual for China to step up campaigning against me wherever I go,â he added. The Dalai recalled his visit to Tawang 50 years ago while fleeing across the Himalayas after a failed uprising against Chinese rule in Tibet. The spiritual leader, who flew to Tawang from Guwahati on Sunday morning, was welcomed by cheering Tibetans as he drove along the 10-km stretch from the helipad to the Tawang Monastery, accompanied by Arunachal Pradesh Chief Minister Dorjee Kandu.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - Guest - 11-09-2009 <b>Dalai Lama draws huge crowds on visit slammed by China</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Tens of thousands of Buddhist devotees gathered on Monday to hear the Dalai Lama on his visit to a Tibetan border region that he insists is "non-political" but which China views as deeply provocative. Some 30,000 people, many of whom had arrived days in advance, were expected to attend a mass session of religious teaching by the exiled Tibetan spiritual leader at the remote Tawang monastery in the northeast Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - Husky - 11-12-2009 1. http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/11/han...ating-into.html <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>the hans are physically infiltrating into india as well</b> nov 8th, 2009 http://www.salon.com/technology/how_the_wo...tyle/print.html Posted by nizhal yoddha at 11/08/2009 11:19:00 AM 0 comments Links to this post <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> 2. http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/11/mao...d-by-china.html <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Maoists helped by China</b> nov 10th, 2009 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Giri http://ibnlive.in.com/news/maoists-helped-...e/104824-2.html Home Secretary G K Pillai said the Naxals were getting arms from India's neighbour, China. This is the first time the Centre has officially admitted to any body from China to have had a hand in the Naxal movement. Posted by nizhal yoddha at 11/10/2009 08:23:00 PM 0 comments Links to this post <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->How entirely unforeseen. Ideological brethren know no bounds after all: so the AmeriKKKan Baptists arm the christian terrorist NLFT, the islamist Pakis arm the Indian islamists, and KKKommunist China arms the Maoist terrorists of India. (And probably somewhere in there, the christians and communists together arm the christian maoists of Nepal and Orissa.) India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - Guest - 11-17-2009 China built a city for 1 million people and nobody moved in. This is an amazing video. China's empty city - 10 Nov 09 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h7V3Twb-Qk[/media] India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - Guest - 11-19-2009 Today I was listening to discussion on US-China equation on radio. Expert was Gordon Chang of Forbes magazine. He was promoting India big time. I was checking his latest article, no where he had promoted India as serious US strategic partner in Asia. Importance of sea-line and US and China are heading for split. He was disappointed by Obama's approach towards India. India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - acharya - 11-24-2009 Land of Eastern promise Nov 19th 2009 From The Economist print edition India's membership of Asia remains primarily cartographic Illustration by M. Morgenstern AN EASY but instructive way to bait an Indian economist is to credit the Chinese economy with coming to Asiaâs rescue and arguably the worldâs. It is, claims the economist, an example of anti-India bias. Why does India not get equal credit for robust growth? In all the frothy coverage about Asiaâs amazing rebound, including in The Economist, where is India? âYouâd thinkâ, the economist complains, âthat India isnât even part of Asia.â To what degree Indiaâs economy is part of a vibrant Asian whole has long been a preoccupation among Indian policymakers. Now the global slowdown has given the debate a keener edge, for it has disproportionately hit the commercial markets in America and Europe to which India traditionally looks. âLook Eastâ, long an avowed tenet of government policy, is in vogue. There is something to the economistâs complaints. For all the credit that it gets for its recovery, Chinaâs near double-digit show this year is mainly a command-economy extravaganza involving massive state-directed spending. When that show is over, the skew in Chinaâs economyâan undervalued currency, a mercantilist bias in favour of manufactured exports and an obsession with accumulating foreign reservesâremains less the solution to global imbalances than one of the fundamental causes. By contrast, though Indiaâs annualised growth rate of around 6% this year is below Chinaâs heady levels, it is impressive against a backdrop of global turmoil. What is more, government stimulus plays only a small part in the growth. Levels of capital and infrastructure investment compare favourably with Chinaâs. And, much more than in China, the hot story in India is domestic demand. India is no mercantilist adding to global imbalances. It imports more than it exports, creating much needed global demand. Indiaâs long-run growth will overtake even Chinaâs. All well and good. But it does not explain how much India is indeed part of Asia. Flows of foreign direct investment (FDI) suggest that the bond is ever tighter. India is now the second-most- popular global destination for FDI, behind only China, and much of this is Asian investment. Total inward investment was $23 billion in 2007 (the latest available figure), up over two-fifths on a year earlier. The target of $30 billion for 2008-09 is unlikely to be met, but inflows into India still defy the global slump. Moreover, India is playing late catch-up with China, with FDI rising from just a few percent of Chinaâs figure in 2000 to about a quarter today. Much of the increase has come from East Asia. Measured by flows, India is overtaking China as Japanâs biggest destination for foreign investment and, according to a survey by the Japan Bank for International Co-operation, will be the most favoured destination for long-term Japanese investments over the next decade. As for South Korea, consumer-electronics firms are driving a push into India. Cracking the rumbustious marketâLG Electronics advertises in a dozen Indian languagesâis the kind of offensive that Koreaâs shock-troop salesmen relish. Three years ago the then Japanese government defined a wide âarc of freedom and prosperityâ, one end anchored in Japan, that took in India on its path. The new government of the Democratic Party of Japan has dropped the arc in name, but it survives in practice. India and Japan are strengthening economic and security ties. Japan sends 30% of its official aid to India and has promised over $4 billion for a âDelhi-Mumbai industrial corridorâ. In South Korea, a finance-ministry bigwig says his urgent priority is to persuade young ministry high-flyers, who invariably apply for an American posting, to go to India instead. And yet. Indiaâs economic ties with East and South-East Asia fall short. For this columnist flying the free, prosperous arc from Tokyo to Delhi means an 18-hour schlepp via Hong Kong and Bangkok. Direct flights between Delhi and Beijing began only three years ago, and run to only four a week, with the odd supplement provided by Ethiopian Airlines. And although India is opening some sensitive industries, such as telecoms and retail, to foreign investors, ownership limits remain. The obstacles work both ways. Indiaâs information-technology giants, stars of international outsourcing, bang their heads in Japan and South Korea, where conglomeratesâ ingrained habits of managing IT in-house persist. In trade (both goods and services), a welter of impediments persist. For instance, Indiaâs drug companies are shut out of Japan, the worldâs second-biggest market for pharmaceuticals. Auditing, advertising, textiles, medicines, you name it: one or other country has objections. Free-trade negotiations between India and Japan have dragged on for years, with no deal in sight. The missing link Most glaring of all, India is largely absent from those supply chains in East and South-East Asia that have come to exemplify globalisation itself. Partly that is because by the time India started to open up in the 1990s they were already established. Partly it is because Indian elites have long looked to America and then Europe for their education and business opportunities. But partly it is because of abiding suspicions of China, which happens to lie at the heart of the networks. Some suspicions are economic. At home, small Indian businesses have lobbied to block the negotiation of a China-India free-trade agreement for fear of Chinese competition. But they are mainly geopolitical. Indeed, Chinaâs preponderance in East Asia seems to provide the rationale for Indiaâs âLook Eastâ policy, and its encouragement by Japan, South Korea and Taiwan, which also seeks closer ties with India. India is welcomed in the region as Chinaâs counterweight. On security grounds, the impetus may be justified. On economic grounds, unless surviving trade impediments are broken down, it makes for pretty lousy policy. India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - Guest - 12-29-2009 [url="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1238454/Akmal-Shaikh-Time-running-says-daughter-death-row-Briton-executed-hours.html"]Akmal Shaikh: Briton executed by Chinese firing squad, his body will not be returned[/url] India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - Husky - 12-29-2009 This is pretty yuck. Warning and all. Large incidents of psychopathic behaviour in what used to be Filial Piety Daoist and Buddhist China. Surely someone would have done studies on how the presence of christoislamicommunism (secularism is included in christianism/communism) is directly proportional to psychopathic and sociopathic occurrences in society - in fact, that there is a causal relationship, in the direction given. (The causal relationship with moronic behaviour has already been ascertained I'm sure. Not called christoislamicommunimoronism for nothing.) 1. au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/6624504/family-of-five-hacked-to-death-in-china/ Quote:Family of five hacked to death in China 2. news.msn.co.nz/article/988488/man-murders-his-relatives-in-china Quote:Man murders his relatives in China Of course, there is that more disturbing suspicion. Could it be the nouveau communist means of disposing of Chinese in plain sight? When Communist China has Execution Buses to ... dispose of certain undesirable/otherwise-in-the-way Chinese, it is hardly beyond the communist govt to massacre entire families at its convenience and then declare that the chosen fall-guy suicided himself in its papers. What is the People's Paper for but to publish that Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia (oh whatever, I forget - you know what I mean) and to spin inconvenient events in most convenient ways. Have to admit that it would explain the sudden and suddenly regular occurrences of 4, 6 and 12 people at a time being been massacred out of the blue, with the perpetrator conveniently dead too or declared mad and locked up in a lunatic asylum/prison. Not at all past communist China. Communism is the king of suiciding people and then writing the fictional obituary. The fact that these obituaries make it to the international press so easily - when China otherwise does a lot to prevent its messy laundry from being aired in public - does seem to indicate that the Chinese government is rather eager for the world to know Exactly Who Did What To Whom And How (and who therefore *couldn't* have done it). India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - Husky - 12-31-2009 1. www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10617828&pnum=0 Quote:China shows defiance with Briton's execution 2. www.nzherald.co.nz/crime/news/article.cfm?c_id=30&objectid=10617738 Quote:China executes 'mentally unstable' Briton |