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India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - Guest - 04-06-2008

<b>An wallpaper which is making the rounds of the internet calling for a boycott of beijing genocide olympics.</b>
Warning: Very disturbing

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India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - Guest - 04-08-2008

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/pop...6712&cl=7302637
Interview with Tibetian activist on Golden Gate Bridge cables.


India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - Shambhu - 04-08-2008

London, France..torch carriers get attacked. Good. HRC calls for Bush to boycott opening ceremony.

Death to communism!


India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - Guest - 04-08-2008

China had invested so much on image makeover, half went into drain.
Today someone (called himself Chinese American) on HillaryClinton offical blog gave her threat.


India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - Guest - 04-08-2008

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Islamist surge in Xinjiang </b>
Pioneer.com
B Raman
Since the beginning of this year, there have been indications of the revival of the Uighur independence movement. China has sought Pervez Musharraf's help to stamp them out

The unrest against the Chinese Government has spread from Tibet to the Muslim majority Xinjiang province of China. Since the beginning of this year, there have been indications of the revival of the Uighur independence movement as seen from the discovery of an Uighur sleeper cell in Urumqi, the capital of the province, by local officials of the Chinese Ministry of Public Security, which is the Chinese internal intelligence and security agency.

This was followed on March 7 by an aborted attempt by three Uighurs - one of them a woman - to blow up a civil aviation plane going from Urumqi to Beijing with the help of gasoline concealed inside a soft drink can, which had been smuggled into the plane. The attempt was thwarted by alert security guards on board the plane.

There was a fairly big demonstration against the Chinese authorities at Khotan in the Xinjiang province on March 23. <b>About 1,000 Uighurs, including many women, participated in the demonstration. </b>The protest was triggered off by two events. First, the alleged death in the custody of the Ministry of Public Security of Mutallip Hajim, a wealthy jade trader and popular philanthropist, who had been arrested on a charge of belonging to the sleeper cell discovered in January 2008. Second, the anger of the local women over a long-standing order banning women from wearing scarves over their heads. Many Uighur women, who participated in the demonstration, defiantly covered their heads with scarves.

The news of the demonstration was first broken by the US-run Radio Free Asia, which covered it on the basis of reports received from its sources in Xinjiang and Uighur political exiles in Turkey. The local authorities of Xinjiang initially denied and ridiculed the reports, but they admitted on April 2 that a demonstration did take place.

According to a statement from the Khotan Government in the Xinjiang region, "extremist forces" tried to incite an uprising in a local market place on March 23. "A small number of elements... tried to incite splittism, create disturbances in the market place and even trick the masses into an uprising," an official statement issued by the authorities said. It added: "Our police immediately intervened to prevent this and are dealing with it in accordance with the law."

The belated official confirmation of the incident has strengthened the credibility of the broadcasts of Radio Free Asia, which has now reported that the local authorities have undertaken house-to-house searches in the area looking for extremist suspects. Other independent reports from Tibetan sources also speak of a crack-down in Urumqi and other places, during the course of which more than 100 Uighur Muslims have been detained for interrogation.

The continuing unrest in the Xinjiang province, which is attributed to pro-Western Uighur groups operating from Turkey and the Central Asian Republics as well as the pro-Osama bin Laden groups operating from Pakistan, has unnerved the Chinese authorities, who are worried that the pro-Western Uighurs and the Tibetan youth might join hands to disrupt the Olympics.

<b>The pro-Western Uighur groups and the Tibetans have links with each other and with the intelligence agencies of the Baltic states through the Holland-based Unrepresented Nations' and Peoples' Organisation, allegedly funded by the US Central Intelligence Agency.</b> Elements belonging to the organisation, which had played an active role in the anti-Moscow movement in the Baltic states, have now joined hands with the US-funded National Endowment for Democracy for supporting the anti-Beijing revolts in Tibet and Xinjiang and for encouraging a similar revolt in Hong Kong, with the help of Falun Gong elements.

The Chinese are also worried about likely threats to the Olympic Torch from pro-Al Qaeda Uighur elements and the students of Lal Masjid of Islamabad, when it transits the Pakistani capital on April 16 before being taken to New Delhi.

<b>According to reliable Pakistani sources, in response to a request from the Chinese Foreign Ministry, Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf has agreed to visit Urumqi during a long-pending six-day state visit to China from April 10, to attend a meeting of the Boao Forum for Asia and appeal to the local Muslims to co-operate with the local authorities and not to let themselves be misled by the followers of the Dalai Lama. He is expected to visit a local mosque in Urumqi and address the local Muslim personalities there. Gen Musharraf, who is keen to project himself as still enjoying the confidence of China, has welcomed the request of the Chinese Foreign Ministry and agreed to try to help the Chinese out. </b>

Reports of continued peaceful demonstrations by Tibetan monks and students have been received from Tibet, Sichuan, Gansu and Qinghai, but there have been no fresh incidents of violence. Radio Free Asia has been disseminating detailed instructions to its listeners in Tibet and Xinjiang as to how to overcome the jamming of its broadcasts by the Chinese.

Pakistan and Nepal have been playing a double game in the recent events. Pakistan has been pretending to co-operate with the Chinese against the Uighur extremists. At the same time, it has allowed Radio Free Asia to produce many of its Uighur language programmes in Pakistani territory. Similarly, the Government of Nepal has been co-operating with the Chinese authorities for monitoring the activities of the Tibetan Youth Congress from Nepalese territory. At the same time. it has allowed Radio Free Asia to produce and transmit many of its Tibetan language programmes from the Nepalese soil.
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India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - Guest - 04-08-2008

<b>Tibet isn't Kashmir</b>
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Rajeev Srinivasan

<b>In Tibet, Communism is wiping out an Indic faith, Tibetan Buddhism. In Jammu & Kashmir, Islam is wiping out another Indic faith, Hinduism. But any comparison between the two situations is erroneous and entirely out of place.</b>

There has lately been a slew of articles and editorials in India's English-language media about China's inhuman genocide and reign of terror in Tibet. Some of these supported the state-perpetrated terrorism against oppressed Tibetans.

The media is merely reflecting the failings of the self-proclaimed 'intelligentsia' in India. Their discourse is so distorted that what would be considered lunatic-fringe Leftist in the real world is considered 'centrist' in India. A true centrist would be, and is, deemed a lunatic-fringe Right-winger, and is instantly demonised as a fascist and Nazi.

Therefore, the usual perorations of the media can be taken with a large pinch of salt. <b>A number of them support the Chinese, either out of an exaggerated sense of awe about China, or out of loyalty built up through boondoggle Potemkin trips or cold, hard cash.</b>

But they attempt to intimidate people with a logical fallacy: They suggest that Indians have no right to comment on someone else violating human rights. Wrong. The fact that the Indian Government may be violating human rights somewhere does not preclude any Indian individual from commenting on, or condemning, what the Chinese are doing. Evil has to be resisted.

Here are a couple of apt quotations: "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing," attributed to Edmund Burke, a Briton. "First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists, but I was neither, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me," attributed to Martin Niemoller, a German, speaking about the Nazis.

Therefore, it is proper for anyone to speak out against gross human rights violations. Those who use rhetorical devices to try and shut people up are bullying and censoring others. They should be ignored and laughed at.

But I found something a little more outrageous in the perspectives of a few China hands, including the editor of a newspaper infamous for reprinting Xinhua propaganda verbatim, and a retired diplomat. These worthies made the assertion that India must not say anything about Tibet because Tibet is just like Jammu & Kashmir. This merits attention. In fact, they are right, amazingly enough, although for entirely the wrong reasons. Consider the analogies:

<b>In Tibet, a bunch of outsiders, Han Chinese, invaded and are oppressing local Tibetans. In Jammu & Kashmir, a bunch of outsiders, Muslims, invaded and oppress local Hindus.

In Tibet, Han Chinese are murdering and ethnically cleansing Tibetans. In Kashmir, Muslims have been murdering and ethnically cleansing Hindus.

In Tibet, Han Chinese are practising civilisational genocide. In Jammu & Kashmir, Muslims are practising civilisational genocide.

In Tibet, Communism is wiping out an Indic faith (Tibetan Buddhism). In Jammu & Kashmir, Islam is wiping out an Indic faith (Hinduism). Therefore, nobody is bothered, as it is the defined job of Indic faiths to be wiped out by Semitic faiths.</b>

With these parallels, there is an exact match between Tibet and Jammu & Kashmir. The media mavens are absolutely right. <b>And just as the Congress Government stood by and watched the ethnic cleansing and genocide of Hindus in Jammu & Kashmir, the UPA Government will stand by and watch the ethnic cleansing and genocide of Tibetans in Tibet. Therefore, on five points out of five, the match is perfect.</b>

There is one difference. Tibetan Buddhism was created in the first place by the few monks who fled Nalanda with their lives when Muslim invader Bakhtiar Khilji burned the university to the ground circa 1192 AD (which in itself was a crime against humanity because of the knowledge lost), and beheaded every one of the Buddhist monks he found. Hinduism, specifically Kashmir Shaivism, on the other hand, was the faith of the region from times immemorial.

<b>Ironically, the job was started by Bakhtiar Khilji is being completed by the Han Chinese. This is another example of the Communist/Han-Muslim axis, also seen in the AQ Khan Nuclear Wal-Mart. It appears Communists are irresistibly drawn to Muslims (although the reverse is not true: The latter liquidate the 'godless' Communists as soon as they cease to be 'useful idiots'). There is an 'understanding' between China and Pakistan to keep the lid on Uighur nationalism and separatism.</b>

It is amazing that when it comes to Chinese oppression of Muslim Uighurs, Pakistan somehow forgets that it is the owner of the "Islamic Bomb". That, of course, may be because Pakistan's Bomb is in fact a screwdriver job supplied by China.

Similarly, I look forward to my favourite media mavens' dilemma when China starts to beat up on Uighurs, who, allegedly, are plotting terrorist attacks the Olympics. Who will said mavens support - Hans or Uighurs, Communists or Muslims? Surely they'll support the hand that feeds them.

The proper solution to both the Kashmir and Tibet problems is the same: The perpetrators of oppression must be made to realise in no uncertain terms that you cannot get away with ethnic cleansing and genocide. Therefore, it must be made clear to Muslims that India will never relinquish Jammu & Kashmir. Similarly, it must be made clear to the Han Chinese that they will never be able to extinguish the spirit of the Tibetans.


Today, the Chinese look impregnable, and they are using the 2008 Olympics as a coming-out party, just as Japan and Korea did with theirs. But there is a difference: Those nations were not oppressive empires at the time, just as India is not. <b>Democracy has a way of dealing with conflict, which is not available to imperialists. It is quite possible that this is in fact the zenith of the Han empire, and that it is downhill from here on.</b>

Let us remember that the historic independent nation of Tibet, which includes the Amdo and Kham regions, accounts for fully one-third of the land-mass controlled by the Han Chinese today. In fact, 60 per cent of that entire land-mass is land that belongs to ethnic minorities. Han Chinese control could collapse, just as the Soviet Union's Russian domination collapsed.

<b>There are a couple of interesting historical parallels. In 1936, at the height of the self-glorification of the Nazi state, the Berlin Olympics were held. But in 10 years, Nazism was dead and buried. In 1984, the Moscow Olympics were held when the Soviet Union looked like an invulnerable empire. In seven years, that empire imploded suddenly. In 2008, when the Han Chinese look, in turn, like masters of the universe, brutalising others like Manchurians, Mongols, Uighurs and Tibetans. It will be interesting to see where they will be in 10 years.</b>

That is another way in which Tibet and Jammu & Kashmir differ: Tibet may well lead to the unraveling of the Han Communist empire, while Jammu & Kashmir is not going to affect the fabric of the Indian nation.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - Guest - 04-08-2008

<b>Yashwant defies BJP line, calls for ‘complete freedom’ for Tibet, Dalai Lama</b>
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->http://www.indianexpress.com/story/293857.html

Tuesday, April 08, 2008
NEW DELHI : In a reversal of the party’s stand, <b>senior BJP leader Yashwant Sinha today demanded “complete freedom” for Tibet.</b>

Speaking at a seminar on Tibet organised by the Himalaya Parivar — comprising RSS sympathisers — Sinha said: “Tibet should be given complete freedom and even the Dalai Lama should demand nothing short of this. The Government of India should instantly lift the curbs on the Dalai Lama’s political activism...There should a peaceful struggle. But we should be ready to meet the challenge if there’s a conflict. I have a statement of His Holiness, the Dalai Lama, wherein he says that he has decided to find a solution within the framework of the People’s Republic of China. I would urge him to give up this path.”

Asked to explain his U-turn, Sinha said: “Why are you so interested about China’s interests when they have not stood by their commitment?...Even today they don’t show Sikkim on their maps. They have upped the ante on Arunachal Pradesh. The incursions in our territory have only increased. The ground realities have changed and we must thus formulate our policy in this new context.”

Sinha, however, added that he wasn’t speaking at a BJP function. So if he was playing to the gallery in a seminar attended by Tibetan activists and RSS sympathizers, senior BJP leaders were not impressed. Most of them said the observation was “avoidable”.

Said BJP president Rajnath Singh: “The Dalai Lama wants autonomy for his people. We, as the country’s principal Opposition party, respect and second this. We are also clear that Tibetans mustn’t be repressed as I made it clear when the Chinese envoy to India called on me recently.”

Party leaders Balbir Punj and Prakash Javdekar, who also spoke at the seminar, chose to distance themselves from Sinha’s views. When asked, Punj toed Rajnath’s line while Javdekar chose not to comment.

Sinha’s remarks may have been prompted by the presence of senior RSS leader Indiresh who demanded that India “go the whole hog in its demand for Tibet’s freedom”. He later said: “The Government of India and the Dalai Lama should rethink their priorities. We must fight for Tibet’s absolute freedom. Else, India is in for a prolonged spell of slavery.” A member of the RSS national executive, Indiresh campaigned vigorously for the trifurcation of Jammu and Kashmir when he was working in Jammu.

<b>The RSS, however, stops short of demanding freedom for Tibet. “We are with the Dalai Lama. When he wanted freedom for his people, we were with him. Now that he’s reconciled to autonomy for his people, he has our complete support in this as well,” a top RSS leader said.</b>

In a statement last month, <b>RSS sarsanghachalak K S Sudarshan had lambasted Chinese policy on Tibet slamming what it called its “barbarous and inhuman atrocities perpetrated on the peaceful Tibetan protesters.”</b> He had quoted Swami Vivekananda as saying, “The Chinese Dragon is asleep. Let it remain so. The day it will wake up, it will bring disaster over the whole world.” That “prophecy has become a reality today,” Sudarshan’s statement said.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - Guest - 04-09-2008

<b>Tibet governor says 953 detained for 'riots'</b>
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->http://in.news.yahoo.com/reuters_ids_new/2...or-223dd93.html

Wed, Apr 9 08:55 AM
BEIJING (Reuters) - Chinese police have detained 953 people suspected of involvement in riots in Tibet last month, the head of the Himalayan region said on Wednesday but added that they were a minority who did not represent the Tibetan people.

Qiangba Puncog, chairman of the Tibet Autonomous Region government, told a news conference in Beijing that prosecutors had also issued arrest warrants for 403 of those detained, a step that generally leads to formal prosecution.

But he added the rioters were only "an extremely tiny minority" of Tibetans and the monks who took part in protests were also "an extremely tiny minority" of the Buddhist clergy.

"They do not, and cannot, represent Tibet and the Tibetan people," he added.

China has blamed Tibet's exiled spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, for monk-led protests that turned violent in Tibet's regional capital, Lhasa, last month. The unrest spilled over into nearby Chinese provinces that have large Tibetan populations.

The Dalai Lama, who fled to India in 1959 after an abortive uprising against Chinese rule, has denied the accusation.

The government had called on rioters to turn themselves in, in return for lenient treatment, and Qiangba Puncog said 362 people voluntarily went to the police.

Some 328 were then released on the grounds that their crimes were light and they had a "good attitude" in confessing them, although it was not clear if the remaining 34 were included in the 953 detainees.

Police have also issued warrants for 93 suspects, 13 of whom have been caught and nine who gave themselves in.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - dhu - 04-09-2008

Protest for Free Tibet in India
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRAFQY_PSAc

"Hu Jintao Murdabad"

"Communistvaad Murdabad"


India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - shamu - 04-09-2008

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India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - Guest - 04-09-2008

<!--QuoteBegin-dhu+Apr 9 2008, 12:37 PM-->QUOTE(dhu @ Apr 9 2008, 12:37 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Protest for Free Tibet in India
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRAFQY_PSAc

"Hu Jintao Murdabad"
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Free Tibet or China Olympics will turn into Genocide Olympics.


India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - Guest - 04-09-2008

Today in our area there is lot of fun going on. Road blocks, Police are afraid of any new display. They are changing torch route every ten mins, now they are saying during run also they will change route. But in San Francisco, you will find people demonstrating for anything without even knowing cause. This demonstration happy city of the world. <!--emo&Big Grin--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Yesterday night Richard Gere gave big open talk in city.


India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - Guest - 04-09-2008

<b>I’ll not participate in Oly torch run: Kiran Bedi</b> <!--emo&:cool--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/specool.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='specool.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I respect the Government's decision to organize security, but I love freedom and I cannot run in a cage," Bedi said.

Bedi, who is the second person after footballer Bhaichung Bhutia to boycott the Olympic flame relay in Delhi on April 17, defended the Tibetans' right to protest.

<b>"If there is so much fear, then let the police enforce Section 144. Why make Rajpath a jail? It's a highly secured place. There is no need for barricades. Police ought to manage it well. They can be in plain clothes and make arrests if any miscreant interferes,"</b> said Bedi.

<b>She charged the organisers of the run with attempting to hide from the world that there were any protests here. The Delhi edition of the run will have around 50 personalities from different walks of life participating in it.</b>

<b>"I cannot run in such an atmosphere. It will be a scuffed environment," </b>Bedi said.

She termed the torch as a ‘symbol of freedom’ and complained that its essence would be lost if the run took place with barricades all around.

"I understand we need security. But being a democratic country we ought not to suppress democratic ways. Let them demonstrate on one side and let the run happen too," said Bedi, who recently stepped down as Director General of Bureau of Police Research and Development apparently in protest against being overlooked for the post of Police Commissioner of Delhi.

<b>On Bollywood actor Aamir Khan deciding to take part in the torch relay, Bedi said, "He can run in such a atmosphere, but I cannot. Aamir Khan is running. If there is one less, it should not make a difference." </b>

<b>"I was a police officer. There is no contract that I have to run. Coca Cola sponsored it. I was not paid to run," </b>said Bedi, who has also been a national tennis champion.

Expressing solidarity with the Tibetans, she said, <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>"If Tibetans are asking for their own home, then where are they going wrong. Tibetans are homeless. They have been thrown out of their own house. They are fighting for a cause. You and me too will fight if we face the same situation."

<b>"If they violate rules and regulation, then it should be suppressed. They have a right to dissent. The world is sympathising with them," </b></span>Bedi noted.

She, however, stressed her love for sports and the Olympic Games, saying, "I have been a national champion in Tennis. I was running with the love for the game. I became a police officer because of this background. How can I hate it?"
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India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - dhu - 04-10-2008

here are my comments on the video:
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They are raising awareness for Tibetan cause. Do not give useless comment.
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Same Kangress goons like Nehru who gave up Indian responsibilities in Tibet are also torturing these Hindus, by jailing Shankaracharya, promoting communist propaganda against the native culture, promoting missionary takeover in NE and South, and so on. So these people are seeing their own travails reflected in Communist-dominated Tibet and soon to be deculturized Nepal. What happens in Asia is a legitimate concern for Indians.
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We cannot have totalitarian & iconoclastic inspired regimes throughout China, Pakistan, Indonesia. The neocolonial regimes rule through deculturizing the natives and devaluing native culture. These tactics are not welcome in Asia, especially when reflected in the Indian and Chinese elites.

If Indians had listened to Sardar Patel, Tibet would not be a slave. So this right step. Do not be smallminded with regard to preservation and renewed flourishing of Dharmic cultures. World needs this.
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Already CCP has sent agents into Nepal and Tawang to harass Tibetans there. Nepal has become missionary and CCP imperialist playground where Prachanda and hired Maoist goons destroy and alienate nepalese culture, destroying independent spirit & resistance. so these issues affect Indians and we have legitimate stake.

Why Nehru clones do not take up issue? Why does Marxist Bengal not give voice? They are busy playing Nehru and compromising Arunachal, Nepal, and Sikkim refuge for Tibetans.
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Why clown Manmohan gave Nepal policy to Yechury and comrades? They are busy taking grovel lesson from West and CCP and any other who can give much desired insult. That is their nature as native sahib and what they enjoy most-to be treated as dhimmi & given slap

Why clown Nehru abandoned all forward positions in Tibet. Why he turned munition factories into making pressure cooker? He was colonized mind which does not have power to think independently in geopolitical terms for self-interest.
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Try understand issue from Indian perspective. Too much Asian territory has been ceded to Islamic/Missionary/Communist clowns and future under these is same as that of Native Americans under europeans. Europeans had their proxies as well; that does not negate reality of their colonialism. Indians do not only want to survive under boot of sahibs but to flourish as independents and also we want same for Tibetans (and also Chinese). Cultural terrorist ideologies have no place or stake in Asia
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India is ruled by Nehru clones and Communists. They are sycophants of CCP

Indians have nothing against Chinese people. Chinese have imported culture-killing ideology of Communism similar to iconoclastic religions of the West, resulting in active suppression of traditional Tibetan practices and monasteries by Mao/Stalin/PolPot-like ideologues. 1 mill Tibetans have been killed

Chinese with West support terror states like Pak. Communism should be disbanded to prevent cultural genocide of Tibet


India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - Guest - 04-10-2008

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India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - Capt M Kumar - 04-10-2008

<!--emo&Tongue--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' /><!--endemo--> For the 1st time in life, to me, this Olympic torch looks like
Ashavmedh yagya.
No wonder, pers from ?Chinese Army are accompanying it.


India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - Shambhu - 04-10-2008

Gordon Brown wont attend opening ceremony.
China told Bush not to come since security will be a problem. <!--emo&Smile--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Some ppl argue that athletes' hard work should not be allowed to go waste. I ask these geniuses, should the oppression in Tibet be overlooked for that measly reason?

Chinese guy (some US settled prof) was on TV saying "if we are talking oppression, what about guantanamo, what about abu ghraib..we should not bring politics into this ... that is a no-win situation"

Bloody liar. The Chini will say wahtever he needs to to move his agenda along.
Commie tongue is so deeply forked, several Party officials have to get surgery done to prevent the fork going all the way down.

Die commie!


India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - Shambhu - 04-11-2008

CNN says China is warning of bomb threat to olympics.

I think our cute cuddly chini commies are going to arrest a bunch of tibetians/uighurs (likely both), release their photos to the world, show a bunch of bomb-making stuff, and then proceed to show the uighurs and tibetians the real meaning of Chinese hospitality.


India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - dhu - 04-14-2008

The fact that Tibet has become an imperialist playground does not preclude legitimacy of Tibetan Resistance.

Risky Geopolitical Game: Washington Plays ‘Tibet Roulette’ with China
F. William Engdahl


India - China: Relations And Developments-2 - Guest - 04-14-2008

<b>Tibetans to run parallel torch relay</b>
Apr 14 2008
New Delhi

As the Beijing Olympics torch relay takes place in the capital Thursday, protesting Tibetans will run a parallel torch relay for a free Tibet on the other side of the city at the same time.

To be run from Rajghat, Mahatma Gandhi's memorial, to the Jantar Mantar observatory, a major tourist landmark in the heart of Delhi, the Tibetan torch relay will have an estimated participation of nearly 5,000 people, its organisers claim.

Tseten Norbu, of the Tibetan Solidarity Committee (TSC) that is organizing the relay and other anti-China protests, said that the other torch relay will be run to protest Chinese atrocities in Tibet.

"Nearly 5,000 people, both Indians and Tibetans, will take part in the Tibetan torch relay to protest against the Chinese atrocities in Tibet and to protest against the Beijing Olympics torch relay here," Norbu told IANS.

"Among the Indians, well known writer Arundhati Roy (winner of the Booker prize) and politician George Fernandes (former defence minister and socialist leader) will take part in the relay," he added.

Jantar Mantar, where the relay will conclude, will be transformed into little Tibet by the protestors on that day, Nordu said.

"Amid all the barricades, we will put up Tibetan tents, replicas of yaks and flowers, have religious congregation...basically create a little Tibet in the heart of Delhi," Nordu said.

Monday morning saw more than 600 Tibetans in exile in India sit for a relay hunger strike at Jantar Mantar, raising slogans for a free Tibet and protesting against the Beijing Olympics torch relay.

Calling it the Black Monday, since March 10, the 49th anniversary of the Chinese occupation of Tibet fell on a Monday, the protestors sat in the heat sans any food or water.

Aparajita Sarkar, a social activist and another member of TSC, said that a new batch of Tibetans are sitting for the hunger strike everyday.

"Batches of 60 or more Tibetans sit for the hunger strike everyday. But today the number is much more because the Beijing Olympics torch relay to be held in Delhi, is drawing closer," Sarkar told IANS.

It's a peaceful strike which has been going on in Delhi since March 15. In Dharamsala, where the Dalai Lama stays, a similar strike has been going on in front of his house since March 10.

Among others, who have come from all across India, the strike today also has the 200 marchers of the march to Tibet who had walked from Dharamsala to Delhi over one month's time,' said Tenzin Choeying of the group Students of Free Tibet.

Besides sitting for the strike, the protestors also built an enclosure in which a man was caged, signifying the condition of people back in Tibet. They also hung photographs of people bleeding, their limbs amputated and crying for mercy to hit home the message.

"The strike will continue at least till the torch relay here. After that we will decide what to do next. We want that the Chinese government has a peaceful talk with his holiness, the Dalai Lama," said one of the protesting monks, Ven. Bagdro.