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MMS: Kimvadanti - Guest - 12-09-2006

Minorities must have first claim on resources: PMQUOTENew Delhi, Dec 09: Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Saturday said plans for minorities, particularly Muslims, must have the "first claim" on resources so that benefits of development reach them equitably.
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He is a Sikh, so its his first right, We Hindus, original people with original religion should not claim anything. He should go back to Pakistan, his birth place.

QUOTEBJP, its CMs condemn PM`s remarks on minority plansÂ link
New Delhi, Dec 09: Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Saturday stirred a hornet's nest by his remarks that plans for minorities, Muslims in particular, must have the first claim on resources, with the BJP, its chief ministers and the RSS condemning it as having communal overtones.

"Such a statement does not behove a senior leader like the Prime Minister. It is unfortunate," Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi, generally known for his anti-Muslim rhetoric, told reporters after the conclusion of the NDC meeting.

He insisted that every citizen, irrespective of his caste and creed should have equal right over the resources of the country.

Such sentiments were echoed by Madhya Pradesh and Chhatisgarh chief ministers Shivraj Singh Chouhan and Raman Singh respectively. While Chouhan said that the Prime Minister's statement was "not only inappropriate but is dangerous also," Singh said that economic backwardness should be the sole criteria.

The RSS was more acerbic in the attack on the Prime Minister remarking that "this is precisely the language used by Mohammad Ali Jinnah before the partition."

"It is unfortunate our leaders have not learnt lessons from the tragic partition. They are pursuing the same politics of religion for electoral benefits," RSS leader Ram Madhav said.

"This is very unfortunate, appalling for a Prime Minister to say so," BJP chief Rajnath Singh said separately.

Haryana Chief Minister Bhupendra Singh Hooda of Congress, however, justified the Prime Minister's remarks saying it should be seen in the context that majoirty of Muslims are poor.
Bureau ReportÂ


'PM echoes Jinnah's language on Muslims'

MMS: Kimvadanti - Guest - 12-09-2006

Mudy,

People lashing out on this Man-moronic statements are missing the trees in forest here. I think we should all agree with PM if he Manmohan Singh, Sonia Gandhi etc relinquish their seats/position and hand it our to any Indian Muslim... afterall, charity begins at home. Make them call their bluff so that even the minority communities can see who's being hoodwinked by these nitwits.

Being charitable with assets you don't own is every easy - here let me go on record: Every _______________ (fill in a minority community of your choice) should have "first claim" to _______________ Bridge.

MMS: Kimvadanti - Guest - 12-09-2006

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QUOTEramanaÂ Today, 08:58 PM IP: 192.91.173.42 | Post #264|Â
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Mudy the Congress I am is leading the nation to Indonesia style politics. I am afraid for the future. It will force a realignment of forces with extreme prejudice.

MMS: Kimvadanti - Guest - 12-09-2006

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QUOTEMudy the Congress I am is leading the nation to Indonesia style politics. I am afraid for the future. It will force a realignment of forces with extreme prejudice. 
We should prepare for worse in India in next 3 years. And another partition within 10 years. I won't be surprised by commie take over, because they are fully funded by Indian/Hindus enemies worldwide. New state within India will get recognition within minutes. Coming election will be very violent.

Congress is working full time to divide Hindus among caste and pitching Hindus with minorities.

MMS: Kimvadanti - Guest - 12-09-2006

Viren,
Time had come thiese Videshes should leave India for good.

Do you think Moron Singh will give up his World Bank pension to Muslims, Nah Nah,
His Hindu Kasmiri Pandit, Hindu Khatri and Hindu Brahmin grand sons will disown him very first day.

MMS: Kimvadanti - agnivayu - 12-09-2006

This is what happens when a you elect a stupid leftist moron and a White Christian Fascist Pig to the most powerful positions in the Indian government. The Indian people deserve what they get. If they want to improve their position elect someone is at least halfway nationalistic.

QUOTE(Mudy @ Dec 9 2006, 11:32 PM)Viren,
Time had come thiese Videshes should leave India for good.

Do you think Moron Singh will give up his World Bank pension to Muslims, Nah Nah,
His Hindu Kasmiri Pandit, Hindu Khatri and Hindu Brahmin grand sons will disown him very first day.
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MMS: Kimvadanti - ramana - 12-10-2006

Is MMS trying to hide from the IUNA/Hyde Act? The press is all agog with this remark and not much on the Hyde Act.

MMS: Kimvadanti - Guest - 12-10-2006

He is not trying to hide from any act, he is just showing his mental status, his limited abilty to think, full ability to lick Queen behind and dreaming just how much fun he will have with PM pension and World Bank pension.

He will go down in Indian History as worst joker to be a PM and started disintegration of India. Do we know whether he had links with Khalistan or he is a Paki agent? We may get a surprise one fine day when he will announce creation of state of Khalistan.

MMS: Kimvadanti - Guest - 12-10-2006

Man, Blair has a lot to learn from MMS and gandhis - italian or otherwise...

Conform or leave, Blair tells Muslims

And of course MMS would say this...

Attack on weaker sections a disgrace: Manmohan

tsk tsk...

MMS: Kimvadanti - Guest - 12-10-2006

K.ram,
There is a difference, Blair is born and belongs to England, Moron Singh and Queen are born outside India and had no love for India.
Blair is protecting majority population. Moron Singh working 24X7 to destroy identity of majority population.
There is a big difference between Nationalist and traitors. Moron Singh even praised colonial Britain.

MMS: Kimvadanti - Guest - 12-10-2006

How about MMS encouraging his daughter in USA to Marry a Muslim? After all charity begins at home !

Since all his other daughters have married Hindus.

Go ahead Mr. Singh walk the talk!

MMS: Kimvadanti - Guest - 12-10-2006

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MMS grew up in gr8er India and India remains his birthplace. Before 1947, it was all 1 India. Rather people who migrated from that part of India are gr8er Indians as they opted for India both by birth and choice.

MMS: Kimvadanti - Guest - 12-10-2006

Row over PM's remarks on Muslims avoidable

Sure....

MMS: Kimvadanti - Bharatvarsh - 12-10-2006

QUOTEMMS grew up in gr8er India and India remains his birthplace. Before 1947, it was all 1 India. Rather people who migrated from that part of India are gr8er Indians as they opted for India both by birth and choice. 
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They had no choice but to opt for India or else their Muslim brothers would have slaughtered them and raped their women.

Many of the refugee bastards have special love towards those who kicked them out, just look at Khushwant Singh, Jyoti Basu, Gujral and others.

MMS: Kimvadanti - agnivayu - 12-10-2006

This is what I don't understand. Everyone knows that Muslims will cut your throat once they become the majority. So, why the hell should anyone waste their time appeasing them. Accept the fact that confrontation is inevitable and embrace it.
These lefty loonies have their head up their a$$.

QUOTE(Bharatvarsh @ Dec 10 2006, 08:49 PM)<div class='quotetop'>QUOTEMMS grew up in gr8er India and India remains his birthplace. Before 1947, it was all 1 India. Rather people who migrated from that part of India are gr8er Indians as they opted for India both by birth and choice. 
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They had no choice but to opt for India or else their Muslim brothers would have slaughtered them and raped their women.

Many of the refugee bastards have special love towards those who kicked them out, just look at Khushwant Singh, Jyoti Basu, Gujral and others.
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MMS: Kimvadanti - Guest - 12-11-2006

QUOTEManmohan 'Muslim first' remark raises a storm 
Navin Upadhyay | New Delhi
PMO rushes to blame media
BJP set to rock both Houses

We will have to devise innovative plans to ensure that minorities, particularly the Muslim minority, are empowered to share equitably in the fruits of development. They must have the first claim on resources," Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said while addressing the National Development Council (NDC) meeting on Saturday.

The media which faithfully reported the Prime Minister's speech is now in the line of fire. It has been accused by the PM of "deliberate and mischievous misinterpretation" of his speech.Â

The PM's outburst against the media follows a major political uproar with the BJP accusing the PM of espousing the time-tested policy of "minority appeasement" for political gains. 

Coming as it did in the backdrop of Sachar Commission report and clamour by the Congress and its so-called "secular" allies for reservation to the minorities, the PM's "Muslim first" assertion is being seen as a ploy to taste political water before slicing away nation's resources for the Muslims on a divisive line.

The tone and tenor of the denial issued by the PMO on Sunday would be seen as highly offensive to the media. By holding that the media reporting was " deliberate and mischievous," the PMO has virtually accused the media of indulging in "motivated" campaign. Incidentally, the entire media, both electronic and print, verbatim quoted PM's National Development Council speech.

The statement issued by the PMO said the Prime Minister's reference to the first claim on resources referred to all the priority areas, including programmes for the upliftment of SCs, STs, OBCs, women and children and minorities.

The PMO's clarification is based on the following lines preceding the "Muslim first" paragraph. These said, "I believe our collective priorities are clear: agriculture, irrigation and water resources, health, education, critical investment in rural infrastructure and essential public investments needs of general infrastructure along with programmes for upliftment of SCs/STs, OBCs, minorities and women and children.

In the clarification the PMO said that, "It will be seen from the above that Prime minister's reference to "first claim on resources" refers to all the priority. However, it was not clear how these lines refute the " Muslim first stance."

It is obvious that under fire from political quarters, the PM is now trying to hide behind subjective interpretation of a well-enunciated speech that has been objectively reported by the media. 

The PM may have backtracked from the statement, but the issue is likely to dominate parliament proceedings on Monday. The BJP is set to raise the issue and both houses could plunge into yet another confrontation between the ruling allies and the Opposition.

Even though the PM has though it prudent to distance himself from the statement before he was asked to clarify the matter in Parliament, 

Parliamentary Affairs Minister Priyaranjan Dasmunsi sang a different tune, and said there was no need for the clarification from the PMO on Singh's remarks.

"I personally feel that even if the clarification was given, it was not at all necessary because it might have annoyed some sections for their own orthodox and obscurantist models but it does not harm the stature and the leadership of the Prime Minister", Dasmunsi said

When pointed out that the PMO still issued the clarification, he said "that might be because somebody would try to score a point as we have gone to a religious line and that is not the point."

Notwithstanding Dasmunsi's bravado, sources said a section of the Congress party was unnerved by the political implication of the "Muslim first" stance. With Assembly elections in five States just round the corner, there are apprehensions that the Congress may end up polarising the voters.

The gambit is seen as a desperate attempt to influence the minorities ahead of the assembly polls in Uttar Pradesh , where the Muslims are unhappy with the congress on a range of domestic and foreign policy issues.

PM misquoted?
"We'll have to devise innovative plans to ensure that minorities, particularly the Muslim minority, are empowered to share equitably In the fruits of development. They must have the first claim on resources"

PMO's clarification 
Media reporting on Prime Minister's speech was "deliberate and mischievous misinterpretation" ... a "motivated" campaign

Dasmunsi's take
'(PMO clarification) was not... necessary because it might have annoyed some sections for their own orthodox obscurantist models but it does not harm the stature and the leadership of the Prime Minister'

MMS: Kimvadanti - Guest - 12-11-2006

QUOTEMMS grew up in gr8er India and India remains his birthplace. Before 1947, it was all 1 India. Rather people who migrated from that part of India are gr8er Indians as they opted for India both by birth and choice. 
Have you seen Aiyar, Gujral etc, they always bat for Pakistan and shmalessly loot India. Same is with MMS. India is mistress for them, Pakistan is their mother and UK is first wife. <!--emo& Big Grin

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MMS: Kimvadanti - Guest - 12-11-2006

âShariat courts no threat to judiciary, says UPA Governmentâ

QUOTEIn a controversial move, the UPA government has defended the Darul Qaza or Shariat courts in the Supreme Court, saying their existence posed no challenge to the countryâs judicial system. In an affidavit filed in the court, the Centre even defended the âjaziya taxâ imposed by Aurangazeb as a mere âspecial taxâ which non-Muslims had to pay for failing to render military service. 


QUOTEThe Government also sidestepped the controversy over the fatwas issued in the Imrana case, saying, âthe case of Imrana has been found not to having been referred to any of the Dar-ul-Waza/ Nizam-e-Qazaâ. The affidavit also dodged questions on the fatwas issued in the case of Jyotsna Ara of Assam and Asobi in Haryana, both of whom were raped by their fathers-in-law, saying the petitioner had not made the Muftis who had given the fatwa party to the petition. âIn any event, few bad examples may lead to the abolition of a system which otherwise is found useful and effective,â the Centre submitted, requesting the court to reject the PIL.

http://www.indianexpress.com/story/15886.html

MMS: Kimvadanti - Guest - 12-12-2006

QUOTENothing wrong, says Montek 
Pioneer.com
Santanu Banerjee | New Delhi
Planning Commission Deputy Chairman Montek Singh Aluwhalia on Monday defended Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's "Muslim first" statement, deepening the confusion about the stand of the Government on the controversial issue.

"There is nothing wrong with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's emphasis on Muslims' claim to resources first," Ahluwalia said, indicating that the planning process is set to reorient its agenda on UPA's political line.

Batting for the PM, Ahluwalia said, "Let us not try to put the outcome of Sachar Committee Report "under the carpet". Incidentally, the PM is the chairman of the Planning Commission.

While the remarks from Ahluwalia, who has so far refrained from joining political controversies, gave a clear indication that planning process is set to reorient its agenda on UPA's political line, the attitude of the ruling Congress establishment on Monday also betrayed a distinct shift from the previous explanatory mode to an affirmative mode.

A day after the Prime Minister's Office clarification that the Prime Minister's "first claim on resources" dictum did not refer to the Muslims alone as projected by the BJP, Union Parliamentary Affairs Minister Priyaranjan Dasmunsi on Monday asserted, "The Prime Minister will never, never make any apology within or outside Parliament."
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Observers believe that there are enough indications to suggest that the Prime Minister's emphasis on Muslim minority would finally set the agenda to politicise the planning process on Congress' minority line. This despite the Planning Commission being a non-political body.

Speaking to The Pioneer, a former Planning Commission member said: ``While the planning had never worked on religious lines, but given the Prime Minister's emphasis, it is set to cloud the agenda for the panel.''

When asked that if the Planning Commission has already started working on this line, Aluwalia indicated that maybe a sub-committee for the welfare for the minorities could be decided upon at a later stage.
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As, for example, the Planning Commission in its final approach paper did talk about ``poor Muslims, who have fallen far behind the national average in all aspects.'' But in his NDC speech, the PM did not clarify whether he was talking about poor Muslims or Muslim community as a whole.
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UPA is adopting british colonial policy, that what British did during during oppresive occupation of India, Muslims were pampered and given cozy job, gave them Pakistan as a gift, Hindus were given second or third rug job or they stick to business.
What is UPA plan? anybody guess?

MMS: Kimvadanti - Guest - 12-18-2006

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh is the leader of Indian Nation. As a leader he should take people along, channelize their energies in one direction, and create a single sense of purpose, one aim & one objective. His words and actions should not divide people, His words and actions should unite people, even those who are already divided. It is unfortunate that he has failed to act as a leader. He has only been successful in acting as an agent of congress president. Before becoming PM he was a congressman and belonged to congress party, but after becoming PM he is above party politics and belongs to the entire nation.