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State News And Discussion - 3 - Guest - 03-09-2009

QUOTEPatnaik Govt shielding Sarawsati killers: VHP
pioneer.com
PTI | Bhubaneswar
With BJP, BJD parting ways in Orissa, the VHP on Sunday sharpened its attack on the Naveen Patnaik Government accusing it of shielding the conspirators behind the killing of ideologue Laxmanananda Saraswati and demanded the killers be caught and hanged in public.

"The culprits and conspirators responsible for the killing of Laxmanananda Saraswati are roaming freely as the Naveen Government is shielding them," VHP's International President Ashok Singhal said at a meeting.

Demanding that the Chief Minister should fulfil his promise of getting the conspirators behind Saraswsati's murder, he said, "Killers of the swami should be arrested forthwith and hanged in public."

Singhal alleged that religious conversion was being carried out in the State with the help of huge foreign funds being pumped in.

Accusing Patnaik of failing to take concrete steps to check illegal conversion, the VHP leader alleged that Hindu religion and culture are being ruined because of the Centre and the Orissa Government.

Demanding stringent laws against conversion, he said cow slaughter should be banned in the State.

State News And Discussion - 3 - ramana - 04-23-2009

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QUOTE("brihaspati")<div class='quotetop'>QUOTEravi_ku wrote
For example in hyderabad, until recently there was not much difference in social condition of hindus and muslims. Yet the MIM(a clone of Mulayam, except muslim at head) was the party in power. Wouldnt kerala's example with 85%+ more literacy be the same? These are examples from India. I am sure we can give many more from outside too.

I am writing slightly extensively here - for I believe that the MIM case would be illustrative of the background to many of the myths about IM being proposed here.

MIM derived its influence by reviving the myths of "police action" during the incorporation of the Nizam Shahi by Indian troops, of course conveniently suppressing the corresponding narratives of activities of the "rajakars" in the lead-up to the Indian military action. However, its revival was only allowed when the Congress began to face the spectre of communist gains.

Ratna Naidu notes, "As in the case of all feudal cities, its growth was propelled by the constant appropriation of revenue from the peasantry by the royalty and the nobility, who spent large chunks of it on building palaces and making their lives more luxurious. The city thus owed its development largely to the presence of its ruler and his nobles. The major sources of employment were linked to the feudal administration. There were feudal privileges like jagirs, mansabs, and imams as well as government and quasi-government posts in the revenue, civil, judicial, police, municipality, city improvement, education and ecclesiastical departments.. . . The city of Hyderabad was thus primarily an administrative centre. It had no self-generating, autonomously growing economic base and its growth was propelled by the exogenous factor of surplus extraction from rural fiefdoms." [Naidu, Ratna. Old Cities, New Predicaments - A study of Hyderabad. New Delhi: Sage, 1990]

The feudal aristocrats as well as the few big industrialists who were essentially hand-picked by the State were mostly Muslim, as were the majority of high and low-ranking government servants. Moreover, majority of the Hindus recruited into the administration, were not from the majority native Telugu-speakers, but belonged to the immigrant Kayasth and Khatri communities from North India who dressed and dined closer to Islamic fashion, compared to the Telugu population. Offiicial language of the Nizam administration, Urdu, was not popular among native Telugu-speakers.

This elite Muslim and immigrant Hindu "minority" lorded as the ruling class, and the state saw to it that "poor Muslims" got a share in the extraction of surplus, infused Hyderabad with "a distinctive and deliberate Islamic tinge," [ Smith, Wilfred Cantwell. "Hyderabad: Muslim Tragedy." Hyderabad: After the Fall. ed. Omar Khalidi. Wichita: Hyderabad Historical Society, 1988, 3-4.] many of Hyderabad's Hindus felt alienated by the dominance of Muslim and immigrant elites. [Varshney, Ashutosh. Ethnic Conflict and Civic Life.]. This led to the formation of a branch of the Arya Samaj, and Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen, (in the 20's and 30's) then claimed to be a "non-political, cultural-preservation organization".

The Hyderabad state Congress, (later tied to the National Congress) was formed in 1938 who publicly set the dual aim of wrenching of power from local autocrats and the ejection of the British Raj from India as "interwoven". The composition also reflected the demography of Hyderabad state more than the Nizam's administration, abecoming therefore more "Hindu". It was banned by the Nizam within months and arrested their leaders. The satyagraha movement was taken up by the Hindu Mahasabha and the Arya Samaj. According to Varshney - the Nizam's backing of the MIM along with his decision to ban Congress, was "epoch-making. It shaped Hindu-Muslim relations for decades to come".

During the tussle over accession, an armed militant wing of the MIM known as the 'Razakar' gained strength in Hyderabad. It was created by MIM leader Qasim Razvi, a "fanatically communal lawyer.. ..ostensibly [as] a sort of Home Guard to counteract Communist depredations, but in fact a major private army" whose purpose was to "fight to the last to maintain the supremacy of Muslim power in the Deccan." The Razakars were financed by the Nizam created an atmosphere of terror among Hyderabad's Hindus, and partially justified their actions by claiming that their victims were communists. [Smith, Wilfred Cantwell. "Hyderabad: Muslim Tragedy."] Muslims critical of Nizam's stance were branded as traitors by both the Razakars and the government. One observer, self-described as 'one of the seven Muslims who had openly advised the Nizam to accede to the Indian union,' described "At many places they had looted the property and burnt the houses of Hindus. At some places they had killed them. General harassment of Hindus was spreading. Whenever the Hindus went from one place to another they were searched by Razakars. Some times their valuables were taken. Panic-stricken but mostly well-to-do Hindus were rushing across the border. Razakars had taken the law into their own hands and were searching the luggage of every Hindu in trains. At this time some Hindus traveled in Muslim garb." [Mirza, Fareed. Pre and Post Police Action Days in the erstwhile Hyderabad State: What I saw, felt and did", 1976]

After accession, the Jagirdari Abolition Regulation of 1949 removed the sources of revenue for the elite. Large numbers of Muslims, many of whom were previously employed as servants of either the government or feudal gentry or as soldiers in the Nizam's military forces, became unemployed. The proficiency in Urdu, became a disadvantage in when English became the medium of instruction in Osmania University and Telugu, the majority language became official state language. Most elite and middle class Muslim fled to Pakistan, leaving the inner city open to in-migration from outer regions of both poor Muslims and Hindus. The economic deprivation was equally suffered by both communities and not just the Muslims who settled in the inner city.

The leader of the Razakar movement, Qasim Razvi, was arrested during the police action of September 1948. His pleadership of the MIM prior to Hyderabad's accession to India associated MIM with an anti-accession-ism. MIM became defunct for many years after accession. CPI had been gaining strength here and in the first state legislative assembly elections for Andhra Pradesh, they got 31% percent of the votes polled, second only to the Congress's 39% percent. [Wright, Theodore Paul Jr. "Revival of the Majlis Ittihad-ul-Muslimin of Hyderabad." Hyderabad:
After the Fall, ed. Omar Khalidi.] The success of the CPI here was because of CPI's representing itself as champion of "minority" cause. In September of 1957, Qasim Razvi's 9 year jail-term ended. Before leaving for Pakistan, the Congress government allowed him to reorganize the leadership of the MIM and restore the dormant party once more under Abdul Wahid 0waisi. [Theodore Paul Wright]

The MIM revived quickly, and in the first municipal corporation elections after their revival, MIM nominees won 19 of the 30 seats that they contested out of 64 total seats in the city. The MIM set out to reclaim for Muslims many of the rights and privileges that had been lost during the dismantling of the Nizam state, including the "securing of a
'legitimate place' for the Urdu language"; "proportional representation for Muslims in scientific and technical education institutions and on Public Service Commissions"; "high posts for Muslims in defence and police"; "restoration of mosques, dargahs and other properties of Muslims occupied after the 'police action"'; and "true representation for minorities in the legislatures." [MIM election manifesto of October 1961 quoted in Theodore Paul]

It was this consolidation of Muslim vote that has been seen as the boost behind the Jana Sanghas rise by several researchers. [Note that the Muslim vote consolodation came before and not after "Hindu" reaction/consolidation]</div>

State News And Discussion - 3 - Capt M Kumar - 05-23-2009

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--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /> The chief minister also warned the ministers that she would order inquiry into the complaints of corruption in their department and would take strict action against them. The ministers also said that even if some of their colleagues were making money, things are very much to the knowledge of the chief minister. Secondly, the ministers said the scolding by the CM was to shift attention of the masses from her failure towards the ministers and the officers.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/index.php?opt...id=106&Itemid=1

State News And Discussion - 3 - Guest - 05-29-2009

QUOTEGods did not bless

When Lalu Prasad Yadav burst onto the political scene heading the Janata Dal government in Bihar in 1990, he especially targeted the Brahmins. He made fun of the Brhamins and their ritualistic obeisance to the pantheon of gods. But the rough and tumble of politics, which saw him journey behind the bars, turned him into a religious soul. With continuously failing magic, Yadav increasingly took to religious ways and did his best to buy blessings by donating in huge amounts. Before the General Elections, Yadav, with his huge family, took a trip to the highest seat of Vaishnavite worship - Badrinath in Uttarakhand. The family performed an extended puja at the ancient temple but it proved to be of no avail as Vishnu, who is said to be saviour in the Hindu scriptures, failed to save his Ministerial berth and the dwindling fortunes of his party.

Curse of Brahmin

State News And Discussion - 3 - Guest - 05-29-2009

QUOTEKaruna appoints Stalin as Deputy Chief Minister
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PTI | Chennai
Long groomed as his heir to the Chief Minister's throne and to head the DMK, Karunanidhi today appointed his son M K Stalin as the Deputy Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu.

The DMK chief, who appointed his 55-year-old son to be his deputy, entrusted to him the portfolios of Industry, General Administration, District Revenue Officers and Minority Welfare hitherto held by him.

Stalin, who still heads the party's youth wing and had shot to fame after his incarceration under MISA during the 1975 Emergency, will also continue to hold the portfolio of Rural Development and Local Administration, a Raj Bhavan press release, announcing his appointment, said.

The elevation of Stalin, who was Chennai Mayor during Karunanidhi's earlier tenure between 1996 and 2001, has been on the cards for quite sometime as Karunanidhi had been having problems after his major surgery for back pain in February last. In his absence, Stalin was the main campaigner for the DMK in the Lok Sabha polls.

His elevation came a day after his elder brother M K Azhagiri was sworn in as Union Chemicals and Fertilisers Minister in the UPA government.
Family die-nasty.
Badal had his son deputy.
All these family owned parties can't trust its workers.

State News And Discussion - 3 - Guest - 05-31-2009

Congress to woo Muslims to grab power in UP
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/congress...r-in-up/466189/

Agencies, May 26, 2009, Lucknow:

Buoyed by Muslims supporting it in the Lok Sabha polls, Congress plans to go all out to woo the minority community ahead of the 2012 assembly elections to wrest power in Uttar Pradesh after a gap of two decades.

The success of Congress in the Lok Sabha elections is especially because of the support from the minorities and the vote bank has to be kept intact if the party has to be revived before the 2012 assembly elections, a senior party leader said.

Uttar Pradesh has 11.60 crore voters and minorities accounting for 20-22 per cent of the electorate can play a major role in deciding the electorate fortune of a party.

"We have to concentrate on keeping them (minority) intact to achieve the target of fully reviving the party in the state by 2012 assembly elections," Chairman of the UPCC minority cell Maroof Khan said.

According to preliminary estimates, almost 60 per cent of the minorities voted for the Congress this time ensuring its victory on 21 of 80 Lok Sabha seats, he said.

Khan said the minority cell has chalked out a programme for consolidating the Muslim vote bank further.

Implementation of the Sachar Committee recommendation for minorities' welfare, under which 22 districts in the state have been given the status of minority districts, has found favour among the minorities, he said.

State News And Discussion - 3 - Capt M Kumar - 06-06-2009

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State News And Discussion - 3 - Guest - 06-12-2009

QUOTEWill Maya dump Sarvajan, go back to Bahujan?
pioneer.com
Akhilesh Suman | New Delhi
The Brahmins have ditched us and the Muslims shifted their loyalty to the Congress,â a senior Bahujan Samaj Party leader glumly told The Pioneer, once the Lok Sabha results were out for Uttar Pradesh.

There are many in the BSP who hold this opinion. Several party leaders have begun to wonder whether the BSP should continue with its so-called social engineering model that had worked for the party only two years ago, but appears to have now gone awry in the Lok Sabha election. Even party chief Mayawati is reportedly taking a close and hard look at the issue.

The Pioneer spoke to a number of BSP leaders during the last Parliament session and got a distinct feeling that they were unsure about the political alignment lasting for long. Although none wished to come on record, almost everyone said the combination threatened to fall apart, and if that happened, the BSP had no option but to aggressively return to its basics - consolidate the Dalit vote bank.

Party sources told The Pioneer that, while Mayawati is unlikely to immediately debunk the alignment she so carefully built, the party supremo would take a final call once the Assembly and parliamentary by-elections in UP were over in September.

âNow we have to look towards Dalits and Extremely

Backward castes for social equations that will yield results,ââ a senior party leader said, adding that only good governance could check mass desertion of upper caste voters.

Sources said that Mayawati had already begun to re-emphasise the Dalit factor and only rarely used the Sarvajan hitay phrase coined by her to woo the upper castes. âNow, we are sitting on a double-edged sword; we have to keep the social equation alive, but how far it will work is difficult to predict,â they said.

After the stunning setback, Mayawati directed her party functionaries to hold district wise review meeting to understand the reasons of humiliating defeat during the recently held parliamentary poll. Among other things, the proposed review meetings would examine efficacy of her âinvincible social engineeringâ that had taken Brahmins and Dalits on a single platform during the last Assembly poll.

Her partyâs vote share has gone down from 30.4 per cent in the 2007 Assembly election to 27 per cent in 2009 Lok Sabha election. Translating this into Assembly segments, the mark has come down to 100 from 206 in two years.

The defeat was all the more shocking since, for the total 80 seats in the State, 20 tickets were given to Brahmin candidates, while six tickets went to Thakur candidates. Muslim candidates were fielded in 14 constituencies and the Schedule Castes got a share of 22 seats. It is clear that even the fielding of upper caste candidates did little to gain the support of the non-Dalit voters.

In the end, the Congress - that had won only 22 Assembly seats in 2007 with just 8.6 per cent vote share - took the lead on as many as 95 Assembly segments with a vote share of 18 per cent, bagging 21 Lok Sabha seats. In fact, all the three parties: The BJP, Congress and SP fared better than the ruling BSP in the State in the parliamentary poll. 

Party leaders feel that, although they came to power in UP on the promise of bringing together a broad spectrum of society cutting across caste equations, the party failed in fighting criminalisation in politics and promoting effective governance.

The partyâs Brahmin mascot and party general secretary Satish Chandra Mishra - said to be the second-most important person in the State after Mayawati, is likely to feel the heat, although insiders rule out any souring of relations between his leader and him for the moment.

State News And Discussion - 3 - ramana - 06-12-2009

Most likely the politics of division will no longer work for the small parties. The voters knew even if they voted for the candidate the party of the candidate wasnt in their interests. All those slogans are blowback for Mayawati and her cohorts. So tokenism was seen thru.

Her immediate goal in case she isnt toppled is to ensure she becomes the CM for all the peole and not just her core supporters.

State News And Discussion - 3 - Capt M Kumar - 06-13-2009

<img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /> Lucknow: Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Mayawati Saturday asked workers of her Bahujan Samaj Party (BSP) to stage demonstrations across the country on Congress leader Rahul Gandhi's birthday June 19 against his party's "anti-Dalit policies".

She made the announcement at a specially convened day-long meeting of her ministers, party MPs, legislators, district coordinators and other senior leaders here.

http://news.in.msn.com/national/article.as...umentid=3042000

State News And Discussion - 3 - Capt M Kumar - 06-14-2009

âThe party claims to be following the policies of Devi Lal and has cashed in on Devi Lalâs name on several occasions, but, in fact, it is miles away from the former Deputy Prime Ministerâs politics. While Devi Lal could meet and talk to any common man anywhere, the present leadership of the party remains in the company of the rich and affluent, stays at their residence and takes meals with them. The present leadership of the party does not even like to listen to the poor,â is one of the several reasons cited by Sampat Singh.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2009/20090614/haryana.htm#1

State News And Discussion - 3 - Guest - 06-30-2009

Committed to uphold Constitution: BharadwajQUOTE he recalled that India was strong and wealthy among other countries in the world in the past when it stood united and tread the path of secularism.

Stating that having been appointed as the Governor of the State by the President of the country, he would strive hard to uphold the provisions of the Constitution
Wealthy among Ethopia, Congo ..... Yes India was stomg during `1962 and 65 during Congress So-called Glory days.
Mark my world, this jerk is going to create havoc in Karnataka and neighboring state.

State News And Discussion - 3 - Guest - 07-09-2009

Hooch Tragedy: Death toll climbs to 86, bootleggers detained
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PTI | Ahmedabad
The death toll in the hooch tragedy rose to 86 with another 38 persons falling victims in more areas in the City today as the police launched a crackdown arresting over 450 bootleggers and sealing scores of illicit liquor dens across Gujarat.

Angry people took to streets damaging municipal buses and stoning police personnel as the Narendra Modi government faced intense criticism over one of the worst hooch tragedies in the state which is a dry state.

The fatalities could go up further after the tragedy unfolded on Tuesday since some of those hospitalised after consuming the spurious brew are in a serious condition, police said.

"The death toll due to consumption of spurious liquor has risen to 86," police control room officials said. Over 100 people are under treatment in various hospitals.

People from different parts of the city like Odhav, Amraiwadi, Raipur, Rakhial and Raipur continued to be admitted to hospitals.

The mounting deaths sparked public anger as protests were held in different parts of the city and the state against the inaction of police and government on illegal liquor dens.[/QUOTE][QUOTE]

State News And Discussion - 3 - Guest - 07-16-2009

Text of Rita Bahuguna's speechQUOTE'Is 75,000 rupees enough for the girls who have been raped and murdered in UP. Mayawati spent 5 lakh rupees on helicopter rides to see these girls. First she went to Meerut then to Ghaziabad and finally she gave Rs 75,000 to a girl who was murdered. These girls should tell Mayawati that may be she should be raped then they will give her 1 crore as compensation."
Two days back, Congress UP head gave this speech with derogatory remark.

Later Mayawati, arrested Rita Bahuguna and some people partially burnt down Bahuhuna's house.
Now Congress and BSP are deciding who is responsible for vandalism.

here are today's headline on this issue, details everyone can guess

Mayawati resents Sonia's 'silence' over Joshi's statement
BJP terms attack on Joshi as mock fight between Cong-BSP
Cong accuses Maya Govt of sponsoring attack on Joshiâs house
Azharuddin meets Rita Joshi in jail
Burnt house, 14 days in jail for UPCC chief Rita Bahuguna
Congress burnt Joshi's house for political mileage: BSP leader
Four detained for arson at Joshi's house

Bahuguna arrested on
QUOTEAround the time her house was under attack, Joshi was arrested in Ghaziabad en route to New Delhi. She was charged under the Scheduled Caste and Scheduled Tribe (Prevention of Atrocities) Act 1989, for allegedly making derogatory remarks about Mayawati
QUOTETalking about the attack on Joshi's house, her 50-year-old maid Munni said: "Close to midnight a group of masked men stormed into the house, raising slogans against Joshi and for Mayawati.

"They were armed with iron rods, sticks and petrol cans. They went about breaking everything before sprinkling petrol and throwing a matchstick to set the house ablaze. The fire raged for nearly two hours and several policemen were there but remained mute spectators. Later, four servants were taken away in a police vehicle. I managed to hide in one of the toilets."
Congress President should take responsibility.

State News And Discussion - 3 - ramana - 07-16-2009

For what? The attack or the remarks? BTW the remarks are in bad taste but convey the sense that the compensation was meager compared to the money spent in travel to deliver the pittiance.

She should have phrased it better for its now a law and order problem.

State News And Discussion - 3 - Guest - 07-16-2009

QUOTE(ramana @ Jul 16 2009, 09:57 PM)For what? The attack or the remarks? BTW the remarks are in bad taste but convey the sense that the compensation was meager compared to the money spent in travel to deliver the pittiance.

She should have phrased it better for its now a law and order problem.
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If Sushma Swraj had made such type of remarks for Sonia, Major riots would have started all over India and call to ban BJP, RSS, VHP, Bajrag Dal etc. BJP President standing in front of TV apologizing day in day out and Congress workers throwing Chapals on him. That is how Congress works. BSP workers are behaving properly, well disciplined and under control.
Proper apology is required. Congress President should apologize. Ownup.

Wishing sexual assault on any woman should be condemned in civilized society.

State News And Discussion - 3 - Guest - 07-18-2009

QUOTECourt reserves order on Joshi's bail petition
pioneer.com
PTI | Moradabad
A local court on Friday reserved its order after an in-camera hearing on the bail application of UPCC chief Rita Bahuguna Joshi, who is currently in judicial custody for allegedly making derogatory remarks against Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Mayawati.

The order was reserved by Additional District Judge(II) Sudha Sharma. It was, however, not clear as to when she would pronounce her order.

State News And Discussion - 3 - HareKrishna - 07-20-2009

who have criminal records?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVWvdI3tTP4&feature=related

State News And Discussion - 3 - Guest - 07-27-2009

Reddys snatch milk from GowdasQUOTEBangalore, July 25: The Reddy brothers have extended their sway from mines to milk, wresting control of Karnatakaâs dairy farming sector from the stateâs other powerful family, the Gowdas.

The youngest Reddy brother, Bellary MLA Somashekara, was today elected unopposed as chairman of the Karnataka Milk Federation (KMF), thus putting it in the BJPâs hands.

The federation, famous for its Nandini brand of milk and milk products, had been under the control of H.D. Revanna, son of former Prime Minister H.D. Deve Gowda, for nearly 15 years. Revanna stayed away from todayâs election.

The Reddys, mining magnates from Bellary, have a track record of winning key elections for the BJP in Karnataka and played a pivotal role in the partyâs rise to power in the state. The other two brothers, Karunakara and Janardhana Reddy, are state ministers for revenue and tourism.

The rush to replace Revanna as KMF chairman is the latest episode in the face-off between the Reddys and the Gowdas. The two familiesâ first brush came when Janardhana accused H.D. Kumaraswamy, Revannaâs younger brother and former chief minister, of raising Rs 150 crore as bribe from mine owners in Bellary at a time the BJP was Kumaraswamyâs coalition partner.

Although control of the milk federation â which has a membership of some 20 lakh farmers â could help the BJP widen its base in the state, it was more of a prestige issue, a Congress leader said.

Some BJP leaders said that the milk union elections had shown that the party had made inroads into southern Karnataka, a bastion of the Janata Dal (Secular) and the Congress.

State News And Discussion - 3 - Guest - 08-07-2009

SAD sweeps bypolls in Punjab

Chandigarh: In what comes as a shock for the Congress in Punjab, the ruling SAD-BJP alliance swept the Assembly by-polls with former Deputy Chief Minister Sukhbir Singh Badal winning from Jalalabad by over 80,000 votes, breaking all previous records.

Badalâs victory margin has overtaken the previous record of 61,027 votes of Hira Singh Gabria in 1997.