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Famous Patriotic Songs And Sayings - Guest - 06-06-2008

Very melodious rendering of Vande Mataram by one Joe Thomas


http://www.4shared.com/account/file/384864...ndeMataram.html


This singer has also sung Harivarasanam (dedicated to Lord Ayyappa, originally sung by Jesudas) beautifully. Such rich voice! I've listened to this several times, and still can't get enough of it.

http://www.4shared.com/account/file/383670...varaasanam.html

As soon as one gets to the webpage, you can either directly play the music or download it.


Famous Patriotic Songs And Sayings - Husky - 06-06-2008

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->This singer has also sung <b>Harivarasanam</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Is that the new breed of Indian christian that is trying to appropriate Carnatic music (while also trying to put their foot in the door of the Carnatic music audience) or is this person for real. Actually, I don't really care to know, as I don't trust them at all anymore.


Famous Patriotic Songs And Sayings - Guest - 06-06-2008

<!--QuoteBegin-Husky+Jun 6 2008, 07:44 PM-->QUOTE(Husky @ Jun 6 2008, 07:44 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Is that the new breed of Indian christian that is trying to appropriate Carnatic music (while also trying to put their foot in the door of the Carnatic music audience) or is this person for real.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Don't know which breed you'd be referring to. If you mean the one that sings CHRISTIAN songs, or songs on JESUS or the BIBLE, or any other Christian THEMES, in Carnatic or Bhajan music style, or 'vedic' chanting style, as part of the strategy of hinduisation of christianity, this wouldn't be it. The Ashtakam, Harivaraasanam, is dedicated to Lord Ayyappa and nowhere is there a mention of YESU or BIBLE in its wording, even when sung by this allegedly christian person.

The same song rendered by the singer Jesudas (a christian-born) is played everyday at the Sabrimala temple shrine at the time of closing. So for those allergic to christians singing songs dedicated to hindu gods/goddesses, best to stay away from visiting Sabrimala.

One must learn to distinguish between Hindu songs, dedicated to hindu gods and goddeses, rendered by Hindus or non-Hindus, from those christian-themes rendered by missionaries/evagelists in Hindu music styles. Most playback singers in India have been from all religious backgrounds, and who have sung songs pertaining to all religions. Other example, other than christian Jesudas singing numerous hindu bhajans and stotras, would be the famous playback singer of yesteryears, Mohammed Rafi, with his rendering of bhajans in movies, including the well-known Sukh Ke Sab Saathi from the movie Gopi.


<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Actually, I don't really care to know, as I don't trust them at all anymore.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

You are entitled to your choice. As for me, I don't care about any singer's religious background, nationality, color, weight, height, and educational qualifications, if he/she sings songs with themes close to my heart. If the themes are not something I care about or like, then I simply don't listen or endorse it. So even if a hindu playback singer sings songs on jesu/mary in a movie. I don't listen to it or even watch the movie or recommend it to anyone.

In this particular case, the singer has rendered the famous Ashtakam for Lord Ayyappa very nicely, even better than Jesudas (in some listeners' opinion, including mine), and thats all that matters to me for now. As for this singer's personal religious orientation (other than that his name is christian-sounding), and whether he sponsors churches & christian missions in his spare time, I don't know, and at this point I don't need to know because I'm not planning to hire him anytime soon.

For those that like the Ashtakam and its beautiful meaning, happy listening.



Famous Patriotic Songs And Sayings - Husky - 06-07-2008

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->If you mean the one that sings CHRISTIAN songs, or songs on JESUS or the BIBLE, or any other Christian THEMES, in Carnatic or Bhajan music style, or 'vedic' chanting style, as part of the strategy of hinduisation of christianity, this wouldn't be it.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I mean the kind that set up magazines on Carnatic music (of <i>Hindu</i> songs), and enrol in Hindu song classes and try to get their kids to perform only for the purpose of getting their foot in the door of Hindu Carnatic music audience.

(Why do I even say "Hindu Carnatic" music, that's like wet water when it speaks for itself: Carnatic music is Hindu. Period.)

Not talking about Yesudas, of whom it is known that Udoopi Krishna I think is (among?) his Ishtadevam. He's not the kind to go around singing Hindu songs for any other reason than that he feels a sincere attachment to doing so, from what I understand. But I don't know about this Joe Thomas.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->As for me, I don't care about any singer's religious background, nationality, color, weight, height, and educational qualifications, if he/she sings songs with themes close to my heart.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Other than religious bigotry against "polytheists" on their part or their donating money to christian evangelising charities with or without thinking, I wouldn't care either. Certainly never cared about nationality/colour/weight/height/education, for example when it came to friends (regardless of whether they could sing or not). Didn't know this was ever an issue for anyone. <!--emo&:blink:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Of course, I do care about the <i>ideological affiliation</i> of any artist: Richard Wagner was a notorious anti-semite and a very close buddy of Hitler and very influential in spreading his anti-semitic views amongst their circle. Naturally, I don't listen to his overblown claptrap.


When amongst christian orgs in India there is the stated intention to appropriate (first by infiltrating - after all, they have to first learn the Hindu arts from somewhere before they can claim it's theirs), their religious background does matter to me.
I recently caught some soap on Zee TV in a friend's mum's house where it has shlokas set in the background of the soap during shots of what seemed very much the scheming villains - the characters were certainly plotting and the other incidental music run under the shlokas was very sinister too. But I guess I shouldn't mind that they were systematically trying to create a mental connection in people's heads between villainous events and Hindu sacred music. Am I supposed to merely be happy that they used Hindu shlokas at all? But then again, to me the motivation as to who does something matters.
I have similar reservations about that anti-Hindu Gujarati dancer who learnt Bharatanatyam and uses her popularity to knock Gujarat and Hindus at every opportunity. I don't care about her ability - besides, there are many talented Bharatanatyam dancers in TN and Karnataka who could make her alleged skills evaporate I'm sure - but I do care about <i>why</i> she does things. I also have to wonder at the shortsightedness of the people who taught her what is considered (in TN at least) a sacred Hindu art, and also at the people who (unknowingly perhaps) applauded her into fame.

Of course, am not complaining about any Indian singing Vande Mataram since it is every much their right to and from my point I would think it was natural (though some christians have serious issues with it being a national song, precisely because they find it is actually about Bharatam as the Hindu Goddess. But that's their baggage if they can't deal.)

But the fact of christians singing Hindu songs is not always innocent. (Just as it is with christian Indians in villages eager to marry Hindus - where this is now a church-directive in many instances - it is not always because of any belief of pluralism on their part, especially when they actually continue to believe the other one will go to hell if he/she continues in 'heathenism'. The reasoning is often controlling population dynamics and demographics.) How do these various christian singers reconcile their first commandment and their church's teachings with singing specifically Hindu songs (not merely songs about the country)? Either they are like Yesudas, or they are like many another that don't have quite the same motivations. Meanwhile, the christian populace does claim that when other christians start doing something Hindu (Kalaripayatt, Kathakali, Bharatanatyam, Carnatic music, Ayurveda) that therefore the art itself is not really Hindu but merely secular "Indian" culture. See post 116 of the christian subversion thread-4.
I think the motivation of other people should very much matter to Hindus because all appropriation starts exactly here. But like I said I'm not really interested in the case of Joe Thomas or similar instances.

Muslims don't have the hypocrisy that christians have: when Indian Muslims sing specifically Hindu songs you know they are sincere because they are daring to go against their openly violent religion in doing these "kaffiri" things. When it comes to Indian christians though, it is getting ever-harder to guess at their reasoning for doing specifically Hindu things. It is not always transparent and not always fueled by an honest sincerity.


<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->As for me, I don't care about any singer's religious background, nationality, color, weight, height, and educational qualifications, if he/she sings songs with themes close to my heart.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->You don't need to insinuate that I am possessed by bigotry (by tying your argument of "singer's religious background" in with matters that are totally irrelevant in this case) in order to make your point that your open-mindedness is better. Open-mindedness is always a good thing, but when you get stung more than once (and when their stated intention is to destroy Hinduism in various ways including through appropriation of Hindu arts and skills - which includes more than mere inculturation, note) it may be useful to take a step back and look at the track record of what one is so open-minded about and approach it more carefully. Joe Thomas and other such Indian christians singing Hindu songs may be very sincere, as some others before them have been - I don't know about these new people and am past caring - but until one knows this for a fact, why trust them implicitly. Reserve such complete trust for followers of ideologies that haven't had it in for Hinduism.


Famous Patriotic Songs And Sayings - Pandyan - 09-03-2008

Can someone please translate this into english?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSPxBICb8EQ&feature=related




Famous Patriotic Songs And Sayings - Guest - 12-15-2009

ने मजसी ने परत मातृभूमीला,

सागरा प्राण तळमळला.... ||धृ||

भूमातेच्या चारंतला तुज धउता

मी नित्य पहिला होता||

मज वदलासी एन्या देशी चल जाउ

सृष्टीची विविधता पाहु||

तैइ जननिह्रिद विरह्शन्कितहि झाले

परि तुवा वचन तीज दिधले||

मार्गादण्या स्वये मीच पृश्‍ठी वाहीन

त्वरित या परत आणीं||

विश्वासलो या तव वचणी मी

जगादनुभव्योगे बनूणी मी

तव अधिक शक्त उद्धरणी मी

येइन त्वरे, कथुनि सोडिले तिजला

सागरा, प्राण तळमळला ||1|

शुक पन्जरि वा हरिण शिरावा पाशी

ही फस्गत झाली तैशी||

भुवीराह कसा सतत साहु या पुढती

दश-दिशा तमोमय होती||

गुणसुमाने मी वेचियली या भावे

की तिने सुगंधा घ्यावे||

जरी उद्धरणी, व्याय ना तिच्या हो साचा

हा व्यर्थ भार विद्येचा||

ती आम्रव्रुक्श वात्सालता रे

नावकुसूम्युता त्या सुलतारे

तो बाल गुलाब ही आता रे

फुलबाग मला हाय परखा झाला

सागरा प्राण तळमळला||2||

नभी नक्षत्रे बहूत एक परी प्यारा

मज भरत भूमीचा तारा||

प्रासाद इथे भव्य परी मज भारी

आईची झोपडी प्यरि||

तिजवीण नको राज्य, मज प्रिय साचा

वनवास तिचा जरी वनिचा

भुलविने व्यर्थ हे आता रे

बहू जिवलग गमते चित्तारे

तुज सरित्पते जी सरिता रे

तद्विरहचि शपथ घालितो तुजला

सागरा...||3||

या फेनमिशे हससि निर्दया कैसा

का वचन भंगिसी ऐसा

त्वात्सवमित्वा सांप्रत जी मिरविते

भिऊनि का आंगलभूमिते

मम मातेला अबल म्हणूणी फसविसी

मज विवासनाते देशी

तरी आंगलभुमी भयभीता रे

अबला ना माझी ही माता रे

कथील हे अगस्तिस आता रे

जो आचमनी एक क्षणी तुज प्याला

सागरा...||4||

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Famous Patriotic Songs And Sayings - Bodhi - 12-26-2010

"yaha siMhAsana 'siMhAsana' hai, ekali~Nga kA Asana hai", about the Fort of Chittor, in format of a prayer/appeal addressed to mahArANA pratApa, written by legendary kavI of patriotic songs Shri Shyam Narayan Pandey.



||यह सिंहासन 'सिंहासन' है||



यह एकलिंग का आसन है¸ इस पर न किसी का शासन है।

नित सिहक रहा कमलासन है¸ यह सिंहासन सिंहासन है।।1।।



यह सम्मानित अधिराजों से¸ अर्चित है राज–समाजों से।

इसके पद–रज पोंछे जाते भूपों के सिर के ताजों से।।2।।



इसकी रक्षा के लिए हुई कुबार्नी पर कुबार्नी है।

राणा! तू इसकी रक्षा कर यह सिंहासन अभिमानी है।।3।।



खिलजी–तलवारों के नीचे थरथरा रहा था अवनी–तल।

वह रत्नसिंह था रत्नसिंह¸ जिसने कर दिया उसे शीतल।।4।।



मेवाड़–भूमि–बलिवेदी पर होते बलि शिशु रनिवासों के।

गोरा–बादल–रण–कौशल से उज्ज्वल पन्ने इतिहासों के।।5।।



जिसने जौहर को जन्म दिया वह वीर पद््मिनी रानी है।

राणा¸ तू इसकी रक्षा कर¸ यह सिंहासन अभिमानी है।।6।।



मूंजा के सिर के शोणित से जिसके भाले की प्यास बुझी।

हम्मीर वीर वह था जिसकी असि वैरी–उर कर पार जुझी।।7।।



प्रण किया वीरवर चूड़ा ने जननी–पद–सेवा करने का।

कुम्भा ने भी व्रत ठान लिया रत्नों से अंचल भरने का।।8।।



यह वीर–प्रसविनी वीर–भूमि¸ रजपूतोँ की रजधानी है।

राणा! तू इसकी रक्षा कर यह सिंहासन अभिमानी है।।9।।



जयमल ने जीवन–दान किया पत्ता ने अर्पण प्रान किया।

कल्ला ने इसकी रक्षा में अपना सब कुछ कुबार्न किया।।10।।



सांगा को अस्सी घाव लगे¸ मरहमपट्टी थी आंखों पर।

तो भी उसकी असि बिजली सी फिर गई छपाछप लाखों पर।।11।।



अब भी करूणा की करूण–कथा हम सबको याद जबानी है।

राणा! तू इसकी रक्षा कर यह सिंहासन अभिमानी है।।12।।