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<b>Buddhist monks targeted in deadly Thai bomb blast</b>
Monday, October 23, 2006
A bomb in Muslim-dominated southern Thailand ripped into a column of Buddhist monks as they went on their alms- receiving walk Sunday, killing a marine guard and injuring a dozen other people.
The attack came a day after Prime Minister Surayud Chulanont said he would use Indonesia's peace process with separatist rebels in Aceh province as an example in trying to solve the Muslim insurgency in southern Thailand. More than 1,700 people have died in the south since early 2004.
<b>Police Lieutenant Narong Buakong said a mobile telephone-triggered bomb went off outside an electronics shop in the city of Narathiwat as the monks were passing by to collect food offerings</b>.
<b>The bomb killed one marine and injured four other marines who were escorting the monks, five of whom were also injured,</b> he said. Three civilians standing nearby were also wounded.
Buddhist monks are among targets of the Islamic insurgents, who are seeking to carve out a separate homeland in the three provinces of Pattani, Yala and Narathiwat which border Malaysia.
<b>Since several monks were beheaded in early 2004, soldiers have provided escorts for them during their daily alms- receiving walks.</b>
The attack was the latest in a bloody week, which included several shootings and a bomb attack Friday at a tea shop in Songkhla that killed four people and wounded 10 others.
Thailand's military-backed government, which came into power after a September 19 coup, has said it will try to negotiate with the rebels rather than continue the iron-fisted policies of ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra.
Surayud, in talks with Indonesian leaders Saturday, said he would study the peace process in Aceh. ASSOCIATED PRESS<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Muslims' anger as London Olympics clash with Ramadan</b>Â www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=410439&in_page_id=1770
The 2012 London Olympics have been plunged into controversy by the discovery that the Games will clash with Ramadan, the most holy month in the Islamic calendar.
The clash will put Muslim athletes at a disadvantage as they will be expected to fast from sunrise to sunset for the entire duration of the Games.
In 2012, Ramadan will take place from July 21 to August 20, while the Olympics run from July 27 to August 12.
An anticipated 3,000 Muslim competitors are expected to be affected.
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10-25-2006, 06:52 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-25-2006, 06:54 AM by Husky.)
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<b>Buddhist monks targeted in deadly Thai bomb blast</b>
Monday, October 23, 2006
Buddhist monks are among targets of the Islamic insurgents, who are seeking to carve out a separate homeland in the three provinces of Pattani, Yala and Narathiwat which border Malaysia.
<b>Since several monks were beheaded in early 2004, soldiers have provided escorts for them during their daily alms- receiving walks.</b>
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->[right][snapback]59636[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Islam is unspeakably evil. This is very, very bad and depressing news. Who would do such a thing? ChristoIslamaniacs apparently.
These religions don't deserve an ounce of respect. I have come to hate it when Indians foolishly say "all religions are the same". So Buddhism is the same as ChristoIslam which kills peaceful Buddhist monks? We ought to stop this dangerous lie, stop giving moral support to terrorist religions by speaking of a "fundamentalist ChristoIslamism" as if there is any other kind. We wrong all those ever killed or brutalised by these religions when we ignorantly keep defending them in this way. The least one can do is to stop speaking well of them.
Not the tiniest bit of regret that 3,000 athletes of the terrorist persuasion are going to miss out on the Olympics. Boohoo.
10-25-2006, 07:34 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-25-2006, 07:43 AM by Husky.)
Posts 194 and 195 (Bharatvarsh)
The only thing we can do is to create awareness in our own families and direct acquaintances. Teach them to be careful about the people they associate with and tell them to ascertain the ones they are seeing are not adherents of the terrorist religions.
Many Indians tend to be so naive, having had peaceful lives, they have no idea about ChristoIslamism and the extent of the horrors their blinded followers would perpetrate. The shackles of these terrorist religions are the enemy of every free human, and of all those who would be free.
10-25-2006, 07:41 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-28-2006, 04:25 AM by Husky.)
Post 188 (below follows a criticism not of what Naresh wrote but of something written by the person quoted in his post)
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Amil Imani is an Iranian-born American citizen and pro-democracy activist [wrote]
<!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Allahâs faithful aim to drag the rest of humanity into the deadly Islamic quagmire. Islam may have been an improvement to the life of the savages that roamed the Arabian desserts some 1400 years ago.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->This is completely and utterly wrong. There were no savages who roamed the Arabian deserts in that period or before, except the intolerant heretic Christians who had been kicked out by the equally intolerant Christians of Rome and Byzantine. These heretical Christian sects, like the Nestorians and many another, were welcomed by the pluralist Arabians who were then persecuted and a number forcibly converted into the Christian terror.
Arabian heathens were not savages in the least. Islam was never an improvement to their lives. It brutally silenced their true culture and spirit.
Yes, Arabia was a desert. But the educated (non-Christian) Romans and Greeks appropriately called it Arabia Felix ("Happy Arabia", which had been its Roman name for centuries) because all the persecuted in the world knew they could run off there and be accepted and treated humanely by the pagan Arabians.
Or maybe I don't know what the word savage means.
The pagan Arabian men and women were known to adopt all the orphan children in their whereabouts - they never let a single child be parentless. (Also confirmed by the Iranian Ali Sina of faithfreedom.)
And Arabian women were treated very well and had equal inheritance laws. The dress code of hijab and the head-gear for Arabian men was a natural, non-religious, development in this dusty land where sand would be blown into one's hair all the time; so when travelling outside, men and women wore these things and eventually the hijab became more colourful and items of fashion at the time. It was not a compulsory item of dress, though.
Then came the horror that was Islam. With a ruthlessness matched only by the Christoterror, it killed the Arabian culture and religion along with a great many of the poor, kindly Arabians themselves.
When Mohammed (<i>Islamic</i> PEACE be upon him) lusted after his adopted son's wife, his son gave her up to the 'prophet'. But since tongues were understandably wagging about Mohammed (appease him)'s incestuous impropriety in taking his daughter as a wife, Mohammed (peaceable be he) cancelled his relationship with his adopted son and issued the ('divinely channeled') decree that henceforth adoption should be banned in Islam.
That is how the noble pagan Arabian practise of adoption flew out of the window. It is one of the many vast 'improvements' that Islam brought to Arabia. Yes, I see it now. I was mistaken. The Arabian heathens were savages indeed. The kafirs! And the peaceful religion of Islam is civilisation. Praise be.
When we (including Amil Imani who wrote the bit in the quote-block above) call the ancient Arabians savages, we ought to know whom it is that we are referring to thus and whether they deserve it. It also depends on each individual's opinion as to the meaning of the word 'savage' of course.
Finally, we can't all be as civilised as the Islamoterrorists or as morally superior as the Christofascists. Perhaps savages is a compliment after all.
Australia's senior Muslim cleric Sheik Taj Aldin Alhilali has apologised ..
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The Australian newspaper reported that, in a sermon delivered last month, Sheik Alhilali likened scantily clad women to uncovered meat eaten by animals.
"I unreservedly apologise to any woman who is offended by my comments," he said in a statement.
"I had only intended to protect women's honour, something lost in The Australian presentation of my talk."
Sheik Alhilali has been widely condemned by Muslim and non Muslim groups for the Ramadan sermon he gave in Arabic to 500 worshippers in Sydney.
According to The Australian's translation, he said: "If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat," he said.
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The seven Muslim groups filed the defamation lawsuit against the paper in March, after Denmark's top prosecutor declined to press criminal charges, saying the drawings did not violate laws against racism or blasphemy.
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Great post, Huskyji (205).
Mohammed the lustful destroyed Arabia and then the world (with his moronic murderering momins). How systematically Mohammed lied to be able to rape at will is mind-boggling. More than being married to the rich Khadijah (whose death gave the pig wealth to start up his cult), the Pervert "Prophet"'s real luck was being born in a peaceful culture, where he could impose his will by the sword.
The barbaric practices of people who really look up to this pig are without parallel for their cruelty. Muslim kids dip their hands into the warm blood of a bakra as the poor animal lies bleeding to death with its throat slit..and make hand marks on walls (this from a US Paki in an unmentionable forum long ago. He was saying all this quite approvingly, remembering good old days in Pakistan).
No wonder Muslims are desensitized from the world and develop an alternate view of reality..momin vs kaffir, peace = killing the kaffir.
10-28-2006, 01:45 AM
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No we need to teach them to thrash anyone who harasses Hindu girls, once the jihadis get a sound thrashing they will not do it again.
10-28-2006, 04:17 AM
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The only thing we can do is to create awareness in our own families and direct acquaintances. Teach them to be careful about the people they associate with and tell them to ascertain the ones they are seeing are not adherents of the terrorist religions.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->No we need to teach them to thrash anyone who harasses Hindu girls, once the jihadis get a sound thrashing they will not do it again. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Bharatavarsha, I meant it in relation to how to prevent uninformed members of our own families and friends from foolishly running into these traps. (That is, the part of dealing with the problem which <i>can</i> be immediately implemented by everyone: simply warning those we know about the methods the terrorist religion uses.) I wasn't talking about actions to prevent the other side from plotting or carrying out such crimes. That needs to be tackled in some way too, but I had no idea how to deal with that.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->No we need to teach them to thrash anyone who harasses Hindu girls, once the jihadis get a sound thrashing they will not do it again.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->My dad won't even hurt a spider (he catches any living indoors and releases them into the garden), so can't teach him and those of his generation anything of the sort. But will tell my female cousins not to put up with terrorist men badgering them, and male cousins not to let ChristoIslamics prey on Hindu (Jain,...) womenfolk.
Where I live, there's no such problem, so never needed to do anything myself.
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By Farzana Versey
26 October, 2006
Countercurrents.org
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The author should be sued for defaming Hindus by making up such ridiculous titles.
Also the whole site is run by a bunch of jihadi loving Muslims because I posted a comment in the comments section, quoting directly from the Quran exposing its hate and they simple deleted my post while they allow Muslims to post their propaganda.
They are terrorist and jihadist.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Veil remarks: Shabana earns mullahs' ire
Bhaskar Roy
[ 29 Oct, 2006 0113hrs ISTTIMES NEWS NETWORK ]
NEW DELHI: For legendary filmmaker Satyajit Ray she was 'one of our finest dramatic actresses'. Her activism has just won her the International Gandhi Peace Prize, putting her in the same league as Bishop Desmond Tutu and the Dalai Lama. But that hasnât spared Shabana Azmi the clergyâs wrath over remarks that the Quran doesnât compel women to cover their face and itâs time to debate the issue.
The actorâs comments after receiving the award in the House of Commons in London probably reassured audiences in Europe about liberalism among Indian Muslims. But back home, clerics have seen both 'affront and abomination' in Azmiâs view that there is no Islamic injunction to wear a veil.
Some have even called her 'non-Muslim' and questioned her understanding of Islam.
"Who has authorised Shabana Azmi to interpret the Quran? Her profession is to sing and dance; she has no right to mislead Muslim women," fumed Syed Ahmed Bukhari, Imam of Delhiâs Jama Masjid.
Bukhari claims Chapter 18 and 22 of the Quran clearly enjoin women to wear a veil. "Azmi is not a Muslim, she is just an entertainer, she does not represent the mainstream views within the community."
Maulana Mahmood Madani, a Rajya Sabha member and general secretary of the influential Jamiat Ulema-e-Hind, accused the actor of 'talking about a sensitive issue without authority'.
Madaniâs words should cause concern in view of the hold his organisation has over the community.
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>why women are 90% responsible for adultery -</b> by Sheikh HilalyÂ
The following are extracts from Sheik Taj Din al-Hilalyâs controversial sermon given last month, as independently translated by an SBS Arabic expert.
âThose atheists, people of the book (Christians and Jews), where will they end up? In Surfers Paradise? On the Gold Coast? Where will they end up? In hell and not part-time, for eternity. They are the worst in Godâs creation.â
âWhen it comes to adultery, itâs 90 percent the womanâs responsibility. Why? Because a woman owns the weapon of seduction. Itâs she who takes off her clothes, shortens them, flirts, puts on make-up and powder and takes to the streets, God protect us, dallying. Itâs she who shortens, raises and lowers. Then, itâs a look, a smile, a conversation, a greeting, a talk, a date, a meeting, a crime, then Long Bay jail. Then you get a judge, who has no mercy, and he gives you 65 years.â
âBut when it comes to this disaster, who started it? In his literature, writer al-Rafee says: âIf I came across a rape crime, I would discipline the man and order that the woman be arrested and jailed for life.â Why would you do this, Rafee? He said because if she had not left the meat uncovered, the cat wouldnât have snatched it.â
âIf you get a kilo of meat, and you donât put it in the fridge or in the pot or in the kitchen but you leave it on a plate in the backyard, and then you have a fight with the neighbour because his cats eat the meat, youâre crazy. Isnât this true?â
âIf you take uncovered meat and put it on the street, on the pavement, in a garden, in a park, or in the backyard, without a cover and the cats eat it, then whose fault will it be, the cats, or the uncovered meatâs? The uncovered meat is the disaster. If the meat was covered the cats wouldnât roam around it. If the meat is inside the fridge, they wonât get it.â
âIf the woman is in her boudoir, in her house and if sheâs wearing the veil and if she shows modesty, disasters donât happen.â
âSatan sees women as half his soldiers. Youâre my messenger in necessity, Satan tells women youâre my weapon to bring down any stubborn man. There are men that I fail with. But youâre the best of my weapons.â
â...The woman was behind Satan playing a role when she disobeyed God and went out all dolled up and unveiled and made of herself palatable food that rakes and perverts would race for. She was the reason behind this sin taking place.âÂ
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Karbala to Mecca </b>
Sandhya Jain
Political Islam took its first mature step to recover agency from its Western tormentors by applying a healing touch to the bleeding fields of Karbala, where Mohammed's nascent faith split irrevocably into Shias and Sunnis. While it is too early to gauge the impact of this largely ignored initiative by King Abdullah, the fact that Iraq's Shia and Sunni clerics recently met in Mecca and signed a covenant to end sectarian strife in that tormented nation is momentous. Formally organised by the 57-member Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC), the meeting is an important step in uniting the faithful as a prelude to tackling the new colonial menace in the oil-rich Muslim heartland.
The covenant follows King Abdullah's disapproval of Iraq's growing sectarian violence, and belies Western hopes that Saudi fears of increased Iranian influence over Baghdad's new Shia elite would accentuate Shia-Sunni rifts in other Muslim countries as well. Far from fearing the assertive Shia elites of Tehran and Baghdad, Riyadh has dexterously recruited them as partners in Islam's last battle for dignity on the world stage.
Since King Abdullah's arrival in New Delhi as Republic Day guest this year, some of us sensed a break from the schizophrenic policy of financing fundamentalism while submitting to Western exploitation and domination. The King realises that the third crusade with political Christianity is already underway. The anti-Prophet cartoons; the Pope's attack on Islam as an evil doctrine and his previous call for the conversion of Europe's Muslim population to Christianity; and the deliberate controversy over the veil in Britain, all suggest that Europe is gearing up to push its Muslim population out of its space, even as the Western military-economic corporates rape and ravage Muslim lands.
<b>King Abdullah is custodian of a faith that from its inception gave its followers political agency; something no other religion has done. Yet among the colonised peoples of the 19th and 20th centuries, Muslims have suffered the most enduring humiliation. Their lands have been divided arbitrarily and puppet regimes imposed upon unhappy people, to facilitate Western domination over their lands and resources. If Islam today commands attention in the international arena, it is because the Iranian Ayatollahs resisted this thinly-veiled imperialism. Leaders like Saddam Hussain fell foul of the colonial-corporate mullahs for the same reason. </b>
Today, America's naked aggression in Iraq lies completely exposed. Yet, the Muslim world fears that Washington will not quit gracefully and will use the sectarian violence to push for a tripartite division along Shia, Sunni, and oil-rich ethnic Kurd lines. The Shias and Sunnis would be abandoned, and the oil-rich section would become a Western 'protectorate' (naturally).
As for Shia Iran, the danger remains. America has been waiting to avenge the ouster of its favourite dictator, Reza Shah Pahlavi, who gifted it favourable access to Iran's oil wealth. The excuse is now available with the so-called secret uranium enrichment. Mr Ahmadinejad has mocked these allegations, offering to open Tehran's nuclear sites to tourists! Yet he must be a worried man, as sanctions against his country could literally kill millions of citizens, as happened in Iraq <b>because Saddam Hussain refused to give America a rapacious oil deal on the lines of the 60-year monopoly that President FD Roosevelt forced upon the Saudi royals. Now, a Vichy-type of regime has handed over Iraq's oil to the Texan oil majors linked with key figures of the Bush Administration. </b>
Some recent events have sent warning bells ringing in leading Islamic capitals. At a time when Saudi royals wish to distance Islam from jihad (some of us expect the slow evolution of a Pakistan not so keen to serve America), Washington has told the beleaguered Hamid Karzai to talk to the vicious Taliban in Afghanistan<b>. This suggests that America never broke ties with the Taliban, which it used to engineer the Twin Towers tragedy to provide an excuse to move troops to the region, with the ultimate objective of possessing the oil wealth of Iraq and Iran. So after a brief strategic exile, the Taliban is being resurrected as Gen Musharraf is proving a slippery customer. Thus the ugly face of Islam meshes with ugly America</b>.
<b>At the same time, the Saudi ruling family apprehends increased US support for 'genuine democracy' in the country; a prelude to another puppet regime. </b>Further, Washington's choice of South Korean Ban ki-Moon as next UN Secretary-General has upset the Islamic world, as contrary to popular perception, he is not a Buddhist, but a Christian. The refusal to consider a candidate from the Gulf; the shoddy treatment previously meted out to Mr Boutros Boutros-Ghali; and Mr Kofi Annan's zeal in serving Western interests<b>, has convinced political Islam that continued subservience to Western polity is suicidal. </b>
Presently the West does not even admit the need to politically engage Islam as a legitimate world force. The Pope's Regensburg address makes it clear that Europe supports the American President's evangelical-cum-neo-colonial agenda for the non-Christian world. <b>The Saudi initiative for a sectarian truce in Islam, on the lines of the Catholic-Protestant ceasefire, could checkmate Western unilateralism in non-Christian lands. It could lead to internal reform and change within Islam, and inhibit the non-Islamic and non-Christian world from choosing between Islam and Christianity in the so-called clash of civilisations. As such, it is a deft move, well worth the risk.</b>
Significantly, the Mecca covenant specifically calls for respecting the holy sites of both communities and for defending the unity and territorial integrity of Iraq - a recognition of nation-state which is revolutionary in Islam. It seeks release of 'all innocent detainees,' a reference to Guantanamo Bay and a direct attack on the White House. Further, it forbids "spilling of Muslim blood," kidnapping, incitement of hatred, and attacks on religious sites. This apparent repetition cannot be accidental, so I wonder if it extends to non-Muslim religious sites like Ayodhya, Akshardham, and Raghunath Mandir.
It is plausible that Mecca has inspired the changed voices emanating from Deoband regarding Imrana's marital status following rape by her father-in-law. <b>Interestingly, though the veil has never been an issue in India, Ms Shabana Azmi felt obliged to tear it after receiving an award from the British House of Commons. Secular Islam, like jihadi Islam, is a protégé of Western Christian colonialism. </b>
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Dear friends,
This column written for Rediff.com for which I am a regular contributor, was
refused thrice by its editors Best
Francois Gautier
<b>WILL ISLAM CONVERT ITSELF</b> ?
The recent bombings of the Western Railway system in Mumbai have once again
thrown up the same question: Is it possible to dialogue with today¹s Islam ?
Does it listen to reason ? Does plain logic work ? Will it ever stop killing
innocent people in the name of God ?
Take these bombings for instance:Â do they really make sense ? Here you have
a Central Government which is heavily pro-Muslim, making sure that a number
of Muslims are appointed in top posts, endeavouring to carve a sizable chunk
of reservations for Muslims, as seen in Andra Pradesh and constantly
pandering to India¹s Muslim minority. The bombings also happen in
Maharashtra, a state governed by the Congress, where many Muslims live and
work, the financial capital of India, whose prosperity benefits all,
including MuslimsÅ
The same illogical strain seems to have got hold of the Government of India,
whether it is BJP or Congress ruled. We keep hearing that those blasts, in
Delhi, Vanarasi or Mumbai, are the work of the ISI of Pakistan or
Bangladeshi extremists. But what they don¹t say is that it would be
impossible for these people to function unless they have a lot of ground
sympathy amongst local Indian Muslims. And the question has to be asked
again: why should Indian Muslims go against their own Government, which has
done so much for them since Independence ? Why should Indian Muslims target
India, a country where they have more freedom than in say Pakistan, or Saudi
Arabia ?
Every time also, the Government comes out with the same litany: ³these acts
are meant to create communal violence, be peaceful, don¹t react². Which
basically means, ³ You Hindus (who are targeted), keep quiet and get killed.
Who cares anyway². And a few months later, another blast takes the lives of
a few more innocent Hindus. But how long will the Hindus keep quiet? This is
the question that the Indian Government has to ask itself. Gujarat has paved
the way: However reprehensible these acts of mass vengeance were, they have
shown that Hindus keep quiet for a long time: they get riled at, they are
made fun of, they are despised, their women raped, men killed, children
burnt in trains and one day they blow up - and blow up badly. Riots don¹t
erupt in a few days: they are the fruit of decades, of generations even, of
suppressed anger, of frustration, of a silent majority which sees itself
more and more marginalized and taken for granted.
Yes, we do occasionally come across wonderful Muslims, open, friendly, who
have somehow preserved the knowledge that all religions are the same, that
Islam in India owes a lot to the tolerance of Indians, that Hinduism, yoga,
meditation and pranayama, are India¹s gifts to the world and can be
practiced by Muslims, Christians and Hindus alike. I have personally met
quite a few of them, within the Art Of Living Family, for example. But they
are such rarities. And even those educated Muslims, whom you can talk to,
will not go as far as criticizing the Koran. Look at Javed Akhtar¹s poetic
tearjerker on the Bombay blasts (³As a human being, I shudder to think how
can my fellow humans do something so heinous? Are these terrorists made of
flesh and blood? Do they laugh and cry like us²?). Not once Akhtar, who has
made a favourite pastime of deriding Hindu Gurus, said that all these crimes
are committed in the name of Islam and the Koran, ³his² religion and ³his²
ScripturesÅ
So will Islam ultimately convert itself? Because the problem is not with
Muslims, but with the Koran. Will it, instead of feeling totally paranoiac,
thinking that it is under attack everywhere, whether it is Palestine,
Chechnya, Kashmir, or France, realize that it is actually Islam which is the
aggressor all over the world, that Muslims who have settled in France or
India, or the UK, and which these countries have sincerely accepted, giving
them citizenship and the same rights as any French, Indian or German
citizens, are actually biting the hand that fed them ? Will the mullahs of
Islam accept to sit down and reform the Koran, which is a perfectly
acceptable scripture for the Middle ages, when mentalities were very
different, but which today still propagates an aggressive, exclusive, and
dangerous zeal in its children?
This is what we are all hoping for. This is what most Western leaders
secretly crave for, when they go out of their way to praise and favour the
moderate Muslims of their country. This is what spiritual leaders like His
Holiness Sri Sri Ravi Shankar are attempting, with a certain amount of
success, by speaking to Muslim leaders, fostering ties in Muslim countries
such as Iraq or Afghanistan, or reforming Kashmiri terrorists through
meditation.
Unfortunately, time is running out. Muslims in India and elsewhere in the
world do not understand is that we are slowly losing our innocence. At the
moment, Islam still benefits from the sympathy of the media, which
constantly negates Islamic fundamentalism, making a hero for instance of
the Chechen warlord Shamil Bassayev, recently killed, who organized the
gruesome massacre of hundreds of children in Beslan and a villain of
Vladimir Putin (or a hero of Sadddam Hussain and a monster of Bush) but it
is slowly losing that sympathy. Sooner or later nearly the entire world will
wage a war against Islam, from Europe to China, from the Ural to Pakistan.
There will also come a time, which is not very far, where everybody will
become wary of anything Islamic. Anyone looking slightly Muslim, in a plane,
in a train, in a shopping mall, will be looked upon suspiciously. Anybody
with a Muslim name will have problems entering any country. Those who have
Muslim friends will quietly stop seeing them or find some excuses not to
meet them. It is already happening. Muslims will cry themselves hoarse and
speak of persecution. But they will have only themselves to blame: they did
not speak up as a community when innocents all over the world were killed in
the name of their religion .
And this may be the way Islam will slowly disappear. Muslims with a little
common sense, or just maybe with a sense of survival, will start changing
their names quietly, they will stop going to the Mosque, they will send
their children to Christian or Hindu schools. Governments will clamp down so
hard on their own Muslims, there will be so many restrictions on them, that
entire families, will move out of the Muslim enclaves you find all over the
world, to resettle elsewhere. Jehadis facing certain death even if they are
not suicide bombers, will melt back in civilian life. Muslims will slowly
lose faith in the righteousness and the power of their own religion, become
atheists, or even embrace back Hinduism, as 90% of Muslims in India are
Hindu converts. It may take a few decades, a hundred years even, But Islam
will surely disappear in the alleys of history and what look now like
menacing, dangerous, foreboding force will be looked upon as just another
religion that came and passed away..
Unless Islam converts itselfÅ
François Gautier
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All the methods for the destruction of Islam and Muslims who feel compelled to be kiss Islam's dictats are in Islam itself. The day Hindus build up enuf hate for Islam (I say hate because there is no way you can love truth and peace and not hate Islam), Islam is going to be exposed, and the destruction will accelerate.
Imam Bukhari is a Sunni, right?
Link<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Ranjit Kanwar: I see. But has your book any relevance to India?
<b>Anwar Shaikh: My book has a relevance to entire mankind, but is especially to India because before the coming of Islam, India was a prosperous, peaceful and proud country, which has not only been reduced to extreme poverty and ignorance by the Muslim predators and the Islamic rule,but has also been fragmented into geographical and political units. This book clearly demonstrates that, as Islam seeks to impose Arab cultural imperialism on other nations through a doctrine of divide and murder, India and Islam cannot live together. This book is a must for India.</b>
Ranjit Kanwar: Do you realize that this book exposes you to serious danger?
Aren't you afraid?
Anwar Shaikh: The truth has its price, which I am prepared to pay. I have not resorted to swearing or falsification simply to uphold the dignity of truth. Fear is a part of human nature and it will be wrong of me to deny it. However, I must add that by making me a martyr, they will sound the death-knell of Islam.
Ranjit Kanwar: It is a revolutionary book with profound consequences. What prompted you to write it?
Anwar Shaikh: This is an excellent question and proves your competence as a journalist. Having lived in the West for such a long time, one day it crossed my mind <b>why the white people love their countries but the Muslims of India hate their motherland. There is no exaggeration in it because they think of Bharat not as their Motherland but Dar-ul-Harb, battlefield, where people murder, plunder and deceive out of hatred and greed.</b> Having given this point further thought I soon realized that<b> Islam is based on the doctrine of hating and murdering non-Muslims and reducing them to the status of political slaves</b>. It is totally false to say that Islam is the ambassador of international brotherhood. Again, it is completely untrue that the Muslims of all countries are one nation. It is the law of nature that nationality is constituted by blood ties and geographical boundaries, that is, the homeland. Anation being an expanded form of family is subject to the familial rules of identity. Of Course, a person can adopt another nationality quite legitimately but it is an exception, and there fore, cannot change the basic rule. <b>Calling Muslims of all countries as one nation is wrong because all these nations have their separate home lands with their independent interests and different policies. Pakistan was soon split into two halves i.e. Pakistan and Bangladesh</b>. <b>The government of Pakistan in 1951 stopped entry of all Indian Muslims into Pakistan despite the fact that they were the people who had made most sacrifices for the creation of Pakistan even more shameful is the treatment of Pakistanis from Bihar, who stood by Pakistan against the Bangladeshis. Muslim nationality is a myth, which is extremely injurious to the non-Arab Muslims but highly beneficial to the Arabs. And this is what leads to the inevitable conclusion that Islam is not a religion but the Arab National Movement.</b>
Ranjit Kanwar: Good lord! Is it what Islam is? Do you mind explaining this point a bit further?
Anwar Shaikh: <b>The philosophy that lies behind Islam is stunning and proves the consummate political skill of the Prophet Mohammed: by declaring all Muslims as one nation and the non-Muslims as another, he created the Two Nation Theory, </b>perpetually setting Muslims against non-Muslims. Again, <b>he stressed that in this struggle the Muslims would be victorious. This is exactly the theory that Karl Marx adopted after many centuries</b>. Presenting his dialectical view of history; he emphasized that all material progress owed itself to eternal social strife between the capitalists and the proletariats in which the latter would win the struggle. <b>However, Karl Marx did not show the mastery that the prophet Mohammed did. By creating the Two Nation Theory, he subjected all non-Muslim Arabs to the cultural imperialism of Arabia. He achieved this purpose with a mind boggling subtlety: he made Arab- worship the cornerstone of Islam. Thus. those who embrace Islam naturally feel inferior to Arabia as a devotee believes in relation to his goddess</b>.
Ranjit Kanwar: This is an unusual explanation of Islam. Can you tell me how the Prophet Mohammed raised reverence of Arabia sky-high and made it an artist of faith for his non-Arab followers?
Anwar Shaikh: Here is a small summary of the steps that the Prophet took to realize his dream.
1. He declared that when Adam was evicted from paradise, he came to Mecca where he built the first House of God. Thus, he identified Godliness with Kaaba, a Sanctuary of Mecca where God lives! Not only that, Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, also came to Mecca to rebuild the House of God!
2.<b> For the purpose of imposing Arab psychological superiority on non-Arab Muslims, he decreed that they must prostrate five-times-a-day facing Mecca. This is not only an act of submission to Mecca, the capital city of Arabia, but also proves beyond a shadow of doubt that God lives in Mecca, otherwise why should people prostrate in that direction?</b>
3. A Muslim must not defecate himself or answer the call of nature facing Mecca. It is a blasphemous act in view of the sanctity of Mecca.
4. When Muslims die, they must be buried facing Mecca, which is the guarantee of their salvation.
<b>5. To make sure that the Arabs enjoy economic opulence, the Prophet made Hajj as obligatory ritual for his followers. It is a pilgrimage to Mecca. There are countless Indian Muslims who sell their homes and personal belongings to undertake this journeys can give many more examples to this effect but this should be enough to explain the real purpose of Islam.</b>
Ranjit Kanwar: It does show the Arab national tendency of Islam, but the non- Arab followers of Islam do not have to adopt a slavish attitude to the Arab national Institutions to prove their Islamic faith. Do they?
Anwar Shaikh: I regret to say, Sir, like countless non-Muslims, you do not know the master stroke of the Prophet.
Ranjit Kanwar: I have never heard of this master stroke before. Can you enlighten me in the interest of humanity?
Anwar Shaikh: <b>I am referring to the prophet's declaration that Allah has made him the Model of Practice for his followers it has come to mean that the Muslims must copy him in everything, they must eat, drink, walk and talk like him, even must look like him, that is, they grow beard like his, have a similar hair-cut and dress like him. This is what is called followings the Sunnah .i.e., the Prophetic: Model which is the guarantee of salvation. One can easily say that Islam has been designed to induce respect and love for Arabia. There are express commands of the Prophet, which state that a person is not Muslim until he loves him more than his own father and mother. The idea is that people must be weaned from their own nationalities and motherlands, and attached firmly to Mecca. This is the reason that the Muslims of India call their own homeland as the battlefield and Arabia the fountain of peace and celestial glory., Now, it is perhaps, easy for you to understand why the Muslims of India partitioned their own motherland for practicing the Arab cultural values in Pakistan (and Bangladesh).</b>
Ranjit Kanwar: What is likely to happen if the non-Arab Muslims do not follow the Prophet in loving Arabia even if it involves unpatriotic practices against their own homelands?
Anwar Shaikh: The Muslims must love Arabia because the Prophet did so. They must follow him as the Divine Model of Practice. This is what Islam expects if don't, they are sure to enter hell because the Prophet will not intercede on their behalf.
Ranjit Kanwar: What is intercession?
Anwar Shaikh:<b> This is the special power of the Prophet Mohammed. He recommend paradise for his followers on the Day of Judgment. His recommendation is final and Allah cannot deny it. It is available to all murderers, rapists, arsonists, cheats, thugs, pickpockets and pimps provided they are followers of the Prophet. On the contrary, all Hindus, Sikhs, Jews, Christians will be cast into a flaming hell, no matter, how pious and God-fearing they may have been. Piety has no meaning and value without believing in Mohammed and the greatness of his homeland. Intercession is the climax of the Prophet's National wisdom--It is this Muslim belief which gives them the hope of free sex and economic abundance, and they feel obliged to kill in the name of Islam. This is why they are ever ready to stab their motherland. After all, caring about one's country entails sacrifices whereas the comforts of paradise are sweet and splendid. And it is especially so when they involve no moral responsibility.</b>
Ranjit Kanwar: Poor
<b>India! "Islam, The Arab National Movement" seems to be the book, not only for every Indian, irrespective of his religion, but also for every Pakistani and Bangladeshi as well. After all, they all belong to the Indian subcontinent. What have you done to propagate its contents?</b>
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He is sunni.
Like Mushy claims direct lineage to Mohammad.
11-02-2006, 03:55 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-25-2006, 12:07 PM by Husky.)
Post 218:
Agree with Anwar Shaikh, with one small qualifier. Islam was the Arabian imperialist movement itself created by Islam. There was none before.
Also, thanks to Islam, most Arabians are secondary citizens in their 'egalitarian universal brotherhood' too, because Mohammed's own clan, the Quraish/Koraish (probably where the name Quran/Koran comes from) is numero uno and the other Faithful Arabian tribes are at #2, followed by all the non-Arabian muslims at #3. That's why Islam has mandated a number of Arabian traditions that Ali Sina (I think it was) said were particularly of the Quraish tribe and not practised by other Arabians.
It seems Mohammed was feeling a bit left out with so many empires around him and hence his grand scheme to turn Arabia Felix into the hell-hole Islam made it. Every time Islam's centre was transplanted from its Arabian setting - as happened, when under the Abassids, the Islamic capital was located in flourishing Iranian Baghdad (in Iraq, still Iranian at the time) - the Faithful would wrest control back to Arabia.
Just to complete the food chain: at #4 come the peoples of the book, Jews and Christos. And at the bottom thereof, well below all animals, we can find our happy selves and the other kafirs.
Shaikh's web site has gone missing (no doubt due to the holy intervention of the Faithful), but one can still read their contents here: Islam Review
Don't know if this link has already been posted on IF before, but it's really hysterical: http://www.jesusandmo.net/
Very simple graphics for this serial comic, but oh so funny.
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