Islamism - 5

Shambhu · (This post was last modified: 11-02-2006, 05:33 AM by Shambhu.)

Re Bukhari: Thanks Mudy.
((Wonder what the Sunnni:Shia martial ratio is. 1 Sunni = 10 Shia?))

Re Anwar Sheikh, the faithful have faithfully copied the Exalted One who quite piously raped 9 yr old Ayesha (sorry, "consummated the marriage" according to Pickthall and other koran commentators), and have done the needful on the sites which dare to not lie (in the way of Allah, of course).

11-02-2006, 06:13 AM

Dying to Submit

Husky · (This post was last modified: 11-02-2006, 07:46 AM by Husky.)

Melanie Phillips's 'Dying to submit' mentioned in post 222:
QUOTEThat is why the cultural cringe of the Church of England before the advance of both secularism and Islamism is such unmitigated disaster, and why the Popeâs recent intervention was so significant. That is why those who sneer at President Bushâs strong Christian faith are cultural lemmings. And that is why I, a British Jew, argue that it is vital that Britain and Europe re-Christianise if they are to have any chance of defending western values.Disagree. Fighting the sale of heroine by selling cocaine isn't the solution. Phillips has not lived in continental Europe probably. Their problem is not secularism. It's apathy due to their prolonged safety from Islam - a sense of security which has lulled them to sleep.

In the past, the secularists of the mainland fought one major, long drawn-out war consisting of numerous battles, and have been winning ever since: that against Christianity. They thought they could rest on their laurels and forget about the horrors of their past. They thought it was all over, having defeated the ignorance, violence and intolerance that is Christianity. The new generations, especially the young, don't think about the freedom they enjoy, which their recent ancestors finally achieved for them. They don't know what they have to lose, because this freedom is several generations old by now. Freedom is not something to take for granted. Although in theory it is a right of all people, and not a privilege, it is one that needs to be fought for every time something encroaches on it. Just because they doused the fires of Christianity and are extinguishing the remaining embers, doesn't mean that there are no other fires now or in the future. Islam is one of them.
The price of maintaining freedom is eternal vigilance. (It is the same as the price for Dharma.)

The choice Phillips gives Europe is to either Christianise or Islamise. Have to ask: what's the difference? They've tried Christianity, nearly two millennia long they have tried - it was hell. So any European not suffering from amnesia would then opt for Islamicisation. They might if they were ignorant about Islam.
But Europe's choice is not limited to the idiocy of Bush, the Pope or the other daft loonies hoping the threat of Islam might lead to re-Christianisation of the continent. They merely need to wake up from their leisurely sleep of contentment and realise that if they want a life worth living, it has to be one worth fighting for, even dying for. Islam and Christianity will fight to the death, as they always have in the past. Life is cheap to these terrorist ideologies. If the west's new way of life and their freedom are something worth fighting for, they will rouse themselves like other greats of their past did.

A Christian Europe or an Islamic Europe of the 21st century is one and the same. Should make no difference at all.
Some other choices open to them: Deism for instance. Or they ought to go back to their old religions. Greeks and Romans died in huge numbers before their nations gave up their beliefs to the terrorism of Christianity. So did the old western-Europeans and eastern-Europeans. This new secularism of theirs might not be all that their Old Religions were, but it is infinitely better than the heel of ChristoIslamic terrorism that marred them for 2 millennia.
Their future lies in their determining what they want to be: go back to the Dark Ages under Christianity/become an Islamic pardees like our neighbour or something else entirely.

11-02-2006, 09:28 PM

QUOTEVeil 5,000 years oldâÂ 
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Ankara, Nov. 1: A court in Istanbul on Wednesday acquitted a 92-year-old retired archaeologist who was tried for saying that Islamic-style head scarves date back more than 5,000 years â several millennia before the birth of Islam â and were worn by priestesses who initiated young men into sex.

Muazzez Ilmiye Cig, an expert on the ancient Sumerian civilisation of Mesopotamia, which arose around the third millennium BC, was the latest person to go on trial in Turkey for expressing opinions despite intense European Union pressure on the country to expand freedom of expression. She is one of dozens of writers, journalists and academics who have been prosecuted, including this yearâs Nobel laureate Orhan Pamuk andÂ novelist Elif Shafak.

Charges of insulting Turkishness against Pamuk were dropped over a technicality earlier this year, and Shafak was acquitted. Unlike Pamuk and Shafak, who were tried under Turkeyâs Article 301, which sets out punishment for insulting the Turkish Republic, its officials or âTurkishnessâ, Ms Cig was accused of insulting people based on their religion. She could have been imprisoned had she been convicted.

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Husky · (This post was last modified: 11-03-2006, 05:32 AM by Husky.)

Post 224.
Mudy, I've read that veils were also used by the Zoroastrians of the Persian Empire at one time, among royalty (or all their aristocracy) and that this denoted status. From your post it is clear that the Islamic-style scarf traces back to Sumeria. Might the Persian use (and style?) of the veil have been independent of the Sumerian invention?

Bharatvarsh · 11-04-2006, 11:46 PM

QUOTENamaz (Salat) Prayers on the Moon?
If and when a Muslim lands on the moon, it will obviously not be possible to face the earthly Ka'bah in the service of prayer; nor to follow the sun's rising, passing the meridian and setting on Earth. What's then?

According to Dr. Muhammad Hamidullah (The Canadian Sosciety of Muslims):
"...What I humbly submit to the Muslim jurists is to construct a Ka'bah on the moon, at the point which would be face to face with the earthly Ka'bah, during equinox time, during a full moon night when our satellite is just above Mecca. That is, a bit North of the centre of the face of the moon that we see. I think that would lie in the region named "Ocean of Tranquillity". I am personally so much the more convinced of this solution, since the Ka'bah is not confined to the building of the ten odd yards high, but also what is above in the atmosphere up to the heaven. In a Hadith of al-Bukhari, the Holy Prophet is reported to have said that the Earthly Ka'bah is the antipode of the mosque of the angels underneath the Throne of God, (and so exactly so that if one were to throw a stone from there, it would fall on the top of the Ka'bah on earth). The great savant Ibn Kathir (Bidayah, 1, 163) reports that there is a particular Ka'bah on each of the seven heavens, each for the use of the inhabitants of that heaven. He adds (Tafsir, on surah 52, verse 4) the name of the Ka'bah on the seventh heaven is al-Bait al-Ma'mur, and that the earthly Ka'bah is at exactly the antipode of this heavenly Ka'bah. Our Ka'bah symbolizes as a window opening on the Divine Throne. If that is so, the permanent residents of the moon may even go there for pilgimage, since coming to earth for that purpose would be too much for them. This solution may help later to determine the point of the Qiblah on other stars and planets also, if man alights and settles there. It may by the way be pointed out that the days and nights on the moon are not of about 12 hours each, but of 14 days each. The timing differs on different celestial bodies..."

http://ulugbeck.blogspot.com/2006/10/namaz...rs-on-moon.html
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11-05-2006, 04:25 AM

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11-05-2006, 08:14 AM

QUOTEÂ Camel urine and its wonders
Saturday, 04 November 2006
By Mohammad Murtaza
TAIF
People are turning to drinking camel milk in many cities. Drive around any city and you find camels with shepherds and some drinking milk utensils waiting ready for camel milk thirsty customers.

âI take the camels out every morning to the desert so the camels eat from thorn trees, available in the Taif area. They eat from the desert, so the milk of the camels will be better. After that I come back to the farm and wait for the customers,â Bila, a Sudanese camel herder told The Saudi Gazette

âThe milk is good for the bones, it makes them strong, also it is good for the liver, sexual libido and many other health benefits,â he said.

Turky Al-Otaibi, a businessman in Taif, swears by it, saying: âI drink camel milk everyday because I have two wives. It helps me a lot to please them. I have no need of medications for erectile dysfunction, camel milk does the job.â

Milking a she-camel, however, is tricky.

âApproach the animal from the right leg. Bend your left leg and place a pot on it or anything else you can use to drain the milk,â he advised.

âA she-camel has four nipples. Seize the nearest two and squeeze. Repeat twice daily,â he added.

Ayed Al-Harthi an employee at a hospital said, âI suffer from high-blood cholesterol because of bad eating habits like eating Kabsah every night. I tried many medications, but unfortunately they are only good for short periods of time.â

âSomebody advised me to try to drink camel milk every night. Then I did a blood test the result was nice, my cholesterol dropped to the normal level. I told the physician about that, he said he did do not have scientific studies on that,â he added.

Khaled, a student at a Jeddah teacherâs college said, âWhen I come to Taif, I go to the camel farms to drink milk without boiling it at all. I just say âIn name of Allahâ and I drink.â

âNothing has happened to me at all so far. I have no fears of getting brucellosis,â he said
Ibrahim Al-Halawaniâs father had liver cirrhosis.
âMy father had liver cirrhosis and there is no treatment for this kind of disease with the modern medicine, so somebody advised me to give my father both milk and urine of the camel, they said it was a medicine used by the Prophet (pbuh). I started giving him the mix but my fatherâs condition was too far gone and, as a result he died,â Halwani said.

Emad Al-Sayed, Oncology and Radiotherapy consultant, said he could not confirm or deny that camelâs milk or urine had any medicinal prupose. 

âI do not have any evidence or studies that prove that camel milk treats cancer or liver cirrhosis as known to common people,â he said.

âThe she camelâs milk soothes the liver and the effects of a spoiled constitution,â said Al-Razi, an Islamic scientist.

In the book, the centuries-dead Islamic scientist in his book Al-Qanoon, writes âCamelâs milk is an effective cure, and the best remedy for dropsy and other ailments.â

Professor Ahmad Ahmadani, laboratories dean at the Sudanese Al-Jazera University, experimented with camelâs milk and gave patients of liver cancer, liver cirrhosis and ascites calculated doses of camel milk and urine. After 15 days, all patients were cured from the disease, some of them continued to drink the mix. In another experiment, Ahmadani administered doses of camelâs milk to diabetes patients. The result was the blood sugar decreased remarkably after one year of drinking camelâs milk.

Naresh · 11-05-2006, 03:34 PM

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A senior Anglican bishop has accused many Muslims of being guilty of double standards in their view of the world.

The Bishop of Rochester, Michael Nazir-Ali, told the Sunday Times some had a "dual psychology" in which they sought "victimhood and domination".

The bishop, whose father converted from Islam, also said there were situations in which society could require Muslim women not to wear full-face veils.

Society required recognition and identification in teaching, he said.

Mr Nazir-Ali argued it would never be possible to satisfy all of the demands made by Muslims because "their complaint often boils down to the position that it is always right to intervene when Muslims are victims... and always wrong when Muslims are the oppressors or terrorists".

He compared Bosnia and Kosovo, where he said Muslims were oppressed, with the powerful position of the Taleban in Afghanistan, who he said had been the oppressors.

He added: "Given the world view that has given rise to such grievances, there can never be sufficient appeasement and new demands will continue to be made."

Veil debate

The bishop's comments on the use of full-face veils by Muslim women add to the debate sparked by Commons Leader Jack Straw, the former foreign secretary, last month.

He disclosed that he asks Muslim women to remove the veil when they attend his Blackburn constituency surgeries.

Mr Straw also suggested that Muslim women who wear veils over their faces can make community relations harder.

In the Sunday Times, Mr Nazir-Ali referred to a "huge increase" in the wearing of Muslim dress in Egypt, Pakistan and Malaysia.

He said: "I can see nothing in Islam that prescribes the wearing of the full-face veil.

"In the supermarket those at the cash till need to be recognised. Teaching is another profession in which society requires recognition and identification."

Dr Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, entered the veil debate last month by saying people should be free to wear visible religious symbols.

He said aiming for a society where no symbols such as veils, crosses, sidelocks or turbans would be seen was "politically dangerous".

Note : Bishop Nazir-Ali was Born in Pakistan of Pakistani Parents and was a Candidate for Elevation to the Position of Archbishop of Canterbury.

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11-05-2006, 07:32 PM

Muhammad is not predicted in Hindu scriptures
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/Prasadh51229.htm

11-05-2006, 07:49 PM

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**acharya** · (This post was last modified: 11-06-2006, 08:34 AM by acharya.)

October 30, 2006
http://www.victorhanson.com/articles/hanson103006.html

The Dark Ages
Live from the Middle East
by Victor Davis Hanson
Tribune Media Services

The most frightening aspect of the present war is how easily our pre-modern enemies from the Middle East have brought a stunned postmodern world back into the Dark Ages.

Students of history are sickened when they read of the long-ago, gruesome practice of beheading. How brutal were those societies that chopped off the heads of Cicero, Sir Thomas More and Marie Antoinette. And how lucky we thought we were to have evolved from such elemental barbarity.

Twenty-four hundred years ago, Socrates was executed for unpopular speech. The 18th-century European Enlightenment gave people freedom to express views formerly censored by clerics and the state. Just imagine what life was like once upon a time when no one could write music, compose fiction or paint without court or church approval?

Over 400 years before the birth of Christ, ancient Greek literary characters, from Lysistrata to Antigone, reflected the struggle for sexual equality. The subsequent notion that women could vote, divorce, dress or marry as they pleased was a millennia-long struggle.

It is almost surreal now to read about the elemental hatred of Jews in the Spanish Inquisition, 19th-century Russian pogroms or the Holocaust. Yet here we are revisiting the old horrors of the savage past.

Beheading? As we saw with Nick Berg and Daniel Pearl, our Neanderthal enemies in the Middle East have resurrected that ancient barbarity â and married it with 21st-century technology to beam the resulting gore instantaneously onto our computer screens. Xerxes and Attila, who stuck their victims' heads on poles for public display, would've been thrilled by such a gruesome show.

Who would have thought centuries after the Enlightenment that sophisticated Europeans â in fear of radical Islamists â would be afraid to write a novel, put on an opera, draw a cartoon, film a documentary or have their pope discuss comparative theology?

The astonishing fact is not just that millions of women worldwide in 2006 are still veiled from head-to-toe, trapped in arranged marriages, subject to polygamy, honor killings and forced circumcision, or are without the right to vote or appear alone in public. What is more baffling is that in the West, liberal Europeans are often wary of protecting female citizens from the excesses of Sharia law â sometimes even fearful of asking women to unveil their faces for purposes of simple identification and official conversation.

Who these days is shocked that Israel is hated by Arab nations and threatened with annihilation by radical Iran? Instead, the surprise is that even in places like Paris or Seattle, Jews are singled out and killed for the apparent crime of being Jewish.

Since Sept. 11, the West has fought enemies who are determined to bring back the nightmarish world that we thought was long past. And there are lessons Westerners can learn from radical Islamists' ghastly efforts.

First, the Western liberal tradition is fragile and can still disappear. Just because we have sophisticated cell phones, CAT scanners and jets does not ensure that we are permanently civilized or safe. Technology used by the civilized for positive purposes can easily be manipulated by barbarians for destruction.

Second, the Enlightenment is not always lost on the battlefield. It can be surrendered through either fear or indifference as well. Westerners fearful of terrorist reprisals themselves shut down a production of a Mozart opera in Berlin deemed offensive to Muslims. Few came to the aid of a Salman Rushdie or Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh when their unpopular expression earned death threats from Islamists. Van Gogh, of course, was ultimately killed.

The Goths and Vandals did not sack Rome solely through the power of their hordes; they also relied on the paralysis of Roman elites who no longer knew what it was to be Roman â much less whether it was any better than the alternative.

Third, civilization is forfeited with a whimper, not a bang. Insidiously, we have allowed radical Islamists to redefine the primordial into the not-so-bad. Perhaps women in head-to-toe burkas in Europe prefer them? Maybe that crass German opera was just too over the top after all? Aren't both parties equally to blame in the Palestinian, Iraqi and Afghan wars?

To grasp the flavor of our own Civil War, impersonators now don period dress and reconstruct the battles of Shiloh or Gettysburg. But we need not show such historical reenactment of the Dark Ages. You see, they are back with us â live almost daily from the Middle East.

Â©2006 Tribune Media Services

Naresh · 11-08-2006, 02:12 AM

Muslim found unsafe to guard British PM

Fury at 'moral grounds' cop out

Cheers:beer

Husky · (This post was last modified: 11-08-2006, 06:23 AM by Husky.)

http://ayaanhirsiali.web-log.nl/log/5732993
3 May 2006
QUOTERadical Muslims not welcome in Dutch military
The Dutch defence ministry is planning to shed personnel holding radical Islamic ideas. Dismissal proceedings are under way against a soldier for propagating extremist Islamic beliefs.

The military intelligence service has identified a further ten Muslim military staff, against whom similar action may be taken. The service says the loss of sensitive information and weapons or other material from within the military must be prevented.

Source: Radio Netherlands
The following is about p3 of the news item 'Muslim found unsafe to guard British PM' posted by Naresh:
QUOTEOn Tuesday, an understandably close-mouthed Scotland Yard refused to confirm or deny the particulars of Farooq's case. But a spokeswoman said: "The Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) has been notified of an employment tribunal claim by an MPS Pc (police constable) alleging discrimination on the grounds of race and religious belief." Ethnicity is irrelevant here, because muslims come from all kinds of backgrounds.
But what is wrong in having reservations about a religious belief? Islam is an ideology. And so too is nazism. If they had banned nazis from serving in their task force, no one would have protested. Dangerous ideologies deserve to be treated with grave suspicion.
Islam specifically teaches murdering kafirs, waging jihad (terrorism) and creating disloyalty amongst the Faithful living in Dar-ul-Harb countries. What is wrong with identifying it for what it is? Why pretend that the religion does not advocate these things? (Guess the same reasons used by the PC crowd to remain silent about or defend christianity and communism are what kicks in when they are defending islam.) Individual muslims may choose to act as per their conscience, but their religion certainly has set instructions on matters of terrorism and murder. To pretend otherwise is to invite trouble. Therefore, to take safety precautions by releasing this Farooq from his new position is only understandable.

I'd argue all islamics should be released from offices concerning national security (of non-islamic countries), until they have affirmed that the defense of the people and nation they are serving comes first before their ideology. Then they should be monitored or take psych evaluations - and if they pass, can be fully accepted. This is obviously too time-consuming and a waste of effort and resources, making it easier to avoid placing them in such critical positions in the first place.

Husky · (This post was last modified: 11-08-2006, 06:53 AM by Husky.)

Can't recall if any of the following have been posted in IF before. It's about the wondrous miracles which that great Religion of Peace is working in the Netherlands, turning the evil kafir secular nation of Holland into an islamic pardees:

- http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,...2058502,00.html 'We should fear Hollandâs silence - Islamists are stifling debate in what was Europeâs freest country'
- Dutch suspected terrorist wanted to kill two MPs - terrorist is a faithful member of the Ummah, of course

- http://www.radionetherlands.nl/currentaffairs/hof060310
Radio Netherlands:
QUOTEVerdict in Dutch terror trial
by Hans de Vreij
10-03-2006

Heavy sentences for some of the suspects, freedom for most. In the eyes of many, that was the somewhat surprising result of the court case against 14 members of the so-called 'Hofstad Group'. Also surprising was that the court, unusually, didn't follow the plea from the public prosecutor, but came to its own conclusions.

There was a lot of interest surrounding the case because it was the first time in the Netherlands that the offence of "membership of a criminal organisation with terrorist intent" - part of new anti-terror laws - was being tested.

Mohammed Bouyeri
From the beginning it was clear that four members of the group wouldn't escape conviction. For a start, Mohammed Bouyeri, the man who's already been convicted of murdering Dutch film-maker Theo van Gogh. The court decided, just like the public prosecutor, that Bouyeri was a member and leader of the group. However, there was no further punishment, because Bouyeri is already serving a life sentence.

Then there were two men who were guilty of acts of violence and a third who had been arrested in possession of a loaded machine-gun. The first two, the US-Dutch national Jason W Walters and Ismail Akhnikh were sentenced to, respectively, 15 and 13 years in prison.Is that Jason Walters another case of a 'US christian turned terrorist and planned to kill n number of people in Holland'? (Restyling the title of that UK news article, recently mentioned on IF, which ran something like 'Hindu turned terrorist and planned to kill thousands' - naturally, the terrorist was muslim.)

11-11-2006, 03:04 AM

In its usual style rediff's 'controversial' topic today is

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All would be quite ok but the caption reads..

QUOTE'These pictures were taken during Sania's visit for Umrah this September. We took these picture with Sania's parents' permission,' writes Suhail.

And I am thinking, is this stunt to pacify the mullahs who were upset with Sania's mini-skirts ?

11-12-2006, 09:34 AM

QUOTEImmigration, Muslims
Veiled Threats to Democracy
By Ron Banerjee
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/banerjee111006.htm
Friday, November 10, 2006
Rape, genocide and gross human rights violations against ethno-cultural groups induce victims to adopt defensive mechanisms. Hindu women in South Asia adopted traditions to protect themselves from Muslim invaders, who perpetrated the largest holocaust in history against Hindus. According to Dr.Younis Shaikh (Pakistani author of the study 'Islam and Women'), eighty million were slaughtered and millions of women were raped. Sexual violence occurred on a gory and unimaginable scale: it was standard practice for Islamic warlords like Ghori and Ghazni to unleash the mass rape and enslavement of hundreds of thousands of women after the slaughter of all males. A large percentage of Muslims in South Asia today are the progeny of forcible conversions and systematic rape campaigns by marauding Muslim invaders.

As a result, Hindu women often veiled themselves in public to avoid the eyes of rapacious Islamic conquerors. This was especially prevalent in regions with high Muslim populations, such as Hyderabad under the Nizams. The tradition of sati, where Hindu women voluntarily cast themselves onto burning cremation grounds after their husbands' death, gained widespread acceptance during the Islamic invasions. The most famous instance took place when Muslim invaders overran Chattisgarh in 1568: rather than submit to the rape and slavery that would follow, eight thousand heroic Hindu women committed sati en masse.
Western nations with high Islamic immigration rates are also beginning to see mass rape and sexual violence emanating from Muslim fundamentalists. Paul Sheehan of the Sydney Morning-Herald reported the clear link between Australian rapes and Muslim immigrants. In one instance, a Pakistani in Australia charged with rape argued in court that his cultural background is responsible for his acts. Last week, one of Australia's senior-most Islamic clerics, Sheikh Hilali, compared unveiled women to uncovered meat who invite rape.

In Europe, Norwegian newspaper Aftenposten reported that Oslo police reports found two-thirds of Norwegian sexual crimes are committed by 'non Western immigrants'. The Swedish Crime Prevention Council reports that males born overseas commit rape at four times the rate of natives Swedes. In both of these nations, Muslim immigrants comprise the largest non European population, which is echoed across Europe. TIME magazine reported in 2002 that sexual assault is rampant in France's poverty-stricken suburbs, inhabited primarily by members of the five million-strong French Muslim population.

Thus, we are seeing a repeat in the West of what occurred in ancient Hindu civilization: the freedoms enjoyed by liberated women are steadily being eroded by beliefs diametrically opposed to our values of pluralism and freedom.

Within some societies, it is customary for women to bear the blame and responsibility for sexual crimes. The niqab and hijab cover female bodies and it is the duty of women at all times to remain covered and avoid male attention. In Pakistan, women are sometimes stoned to death for adultery and imprisoned when they are raped. When Mukhtar Mai's brother was charged with an offence, Pakistani courts ordered her to be gang-raped by four men for her brother's offense.

Viewed in this light, it is apparent why British PM Blair and Italian PM Prodi have recently raised concerns about the wearing of veils. France has wisely banned the wearing of veils in public schools.

Whether or not immigrants can adapt successfully to progressive societies is dependent on how deeply entrenched are the negative values of their homelands. Oppression, enslavement, and sexual violence are rooted within the fundamentalist Islamic psyche. Many Islamic leaders who perpetrated mass rape in South Asia were deeply religious Muslims with considerable authority within the faith.

Fundamentalist Muslim attitudes towards women and minorities are so divergent from civilized norms in other cultures that clashes are inevitable. These conflicts can result in drastic changes in the host cultures, such as regional adoption of veils by Hindu women and an upsurge in sati traditions. In Europe, the massive sexual violence perpetrated by Islamic fundamentalists is slowly changing society. Unni Wikan, professor of sociology at University of Oslo, in 2001 blamed Norwegian women for dressing provocatively in front of Muslim men, and suggested that they should adapt themselves to a multicultural society.

Western societies will soon be forced to decide whether to protect their democratic traditions or submit to medieval standards of conduct.

11-15-2006, 02:21 AM

www.ibnlive.com/news/iran...071-8.html
Actress faces lashing over sex tapeQUOTENew Delhi: An Iranian actress is facing jail and public lashing after a Paris Hilton-style tape of her having sex with her boyfriend became public, a British newspaper said.

The actress, Zahra Amir Ebrahimi, drew the wrath of the authorities after the sex video was leaked on the Internet and a DVD was released. Ebrahimi is one of the best-known actresses in the Islamic country.

According to London's Daily Mail, Ebrahimi made the 20-minute sex tape privately with her boyfriend on a camcorder at the flat that they shared two years ago. Ebrahimi was caught unawares when the tape was posted on the Internet and widely released as a DVD, which angered her country.

Her boyfriend, who has since fled to Dubai, is suspected to have distributed the material illegally. If caught, the man faces three years in jail and a Â£6,000 fine for offending public morality, the newspaper reports. The authorities have not named the man as yet

Discrimination in punishment.

11-15-2006, 02:36 AM

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23373955-
details/Archbishop%3A+Muslim+women+shouldn%
27t+wear+veils+in+public/article.do
Archbishop: Muslim women shouldn't wear veils in public 
One of the Church of England's most senior figures today risks a row with the Muslim community by suggesting that Islamic women should not wear veils in public.

In a wide-ranging interview with the Daily Mail, Dr John Sentamu warns that 'no minority' should impose its beliefs on the rest of society and that the veil causes Muslim women to 'stick out'. 

The Archbishop of York - who ranks second in the Church's hierarchy - also says the BBC is biased against Christians because Anglicans don't threaten to 'bomb' the corporation.

And in a strongly-worded analysis of the state of modern Britain, the Uganda-born cleric makes a passionate defence of the Queen, family values and faith schools.
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11-15-2006, 07:47 AM

Islam in Europe - The Islamic Threat

QUOTE75% of British Muslims sympathize with French rioters
77% of British Muslims, 83% of Muslims in Spain oppose the US war on terror
71% of British Muslims have a favorable opinion of Iran

10 November 2006: No one should be surprised by the information provided yesterday by Eliza Manningham-Buller, the Director-General of MI5, about the terrorist threat facing the UK. The threat of Islamic terrorism predates the attacks of 9/11, and it will continue well into future generations until we lose the lies about Islam that the cancer of political correctness perpetuates. Manningham-Buller provided a tempered glimpse into the massive problem facing Great Britain, noting that the threat posed by Islamic terrorism is âreal, here, deadly and enduring.â Full text of speech

The reality is that the threat facing our national security is much greater than anyone has yet dared to say, at least publicly. A 39-page report from July that outlines growing trends of Muslims worldwide provides some insight into the mindset of the âgeneral Muslim populationâ about a number of topics, from their (lack of) desire to assimilate into western society to their overwhelming support of terrorist organizations like Hamas, and favoring their victory over Israel. As stated by Manningham-Buller , it is evident that more Muslims are moving from passive sympathy towards active terrorism, which has been and continues to be a trend inside the United States.

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