Media In India/elsewhere -2

11-09-2006, 04:32 AM

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Wish someone gave the same treatment to the charlatans defending the convicted terrorist Afzal.

11-09-2006, 07:05 AM

11-09-2006, 04:03 PM

QUOTEWhat an irony? The paper suggests that hindus are terrorists, and you are asking for paper protests instead of the traditional islamic reaction of burning embassies. Perhaps this shows how an unconverted Hindu thinks.
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True. And I hope there are fewer converted hindus. Hindus shouldn't be too eager to upstage/displace islam's number one ranking and international image, as the world's most violent and aggressive religion - so far islam's only other competitor constantly contending for the top place in this category has been christianity.

11-09-2006, 04:21 PM

QUOTE(Mudy @ Nov 7 2006, 09:44 PM)14 hours back, I posted my one liner comment only mentioning that title is misleading, and ofcourse they have decided not to post. Just show purpose of misleading title. Britisher can never leave racism.
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They have changed the title now to "Al Qaeda Briton planned dirty bomb attacks." However, the 'hindu' association in the article remains. I sent an email earlier commenting not just about the title, but also in general about this terrorist's religious background. They never published it. Perhaps that's too much to expect from these newspapers when their intent is to defame religions other than islam-christianity. What is interesting is that they somehow thought it worth to publish this comment from an Indian muslim in Gujurat.

QUOTEFirstly, as a Muslim, I categorically condemn the intentions and actions of the Hindu raised terrorist who converted to Islam. Likewise, I also abhor and condemn all those who helped him in making his intentions appear into reality.

Secondly, the Hindu claim that Hinduism does not teach violence is all but truthful. Have they forgotten the many thousands of Muslims and Christians massacred in the name of Hinduism in India since the rise of the Congress? Do the Gujrat riots ring any bells? The truth is that every nation or people have bad apples and to generalise their behaviours onto the rest is nothing but a display of weakness.

- Indian Muslim, Gujrat, India

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Husky · (This post was last modified: 11-25-2006, 11:15 AM by Husky.)

Post 251 (Shankara):
That the post of the faithful from Gujarat is allowed to be published, while yours and that of Mudy don't appear is only to be expected.
After all, (1) christoislamism should not be allowed to look bad, no matter what horrors it gets its followers to commit; (2) somehow other religions have to be smeared when (1) cannot be avoided.
Thought of posting a correction to the thisislondonistan site myself, but then I thought that their title was of course entirely intentional, written/edited by a p-sec if not an islamoterrorist itself. The truth is as far away from what they want to convey as they can make it.

Also, they certainly don't care to report on what caused the Gujarat riots. Only islamic 'retaliations' 'culminating in the Mumbai blasts' can be reported on, though only the p-secs regard these as 'islamic retaliations'. We know that in reality these were the usual acts of terrorism that the faithful resort to to bring to fruition their cherished vision of Mughalistan.
That the Hindus taking part in the Gujarat riots were reacting to the islamic murder of innocent Hindu children and women is of no moment - don't you know, each christoislamic life is worth all the lives of all the unsaved kafirs in the world. Who cares that the Hindus got tired of their community being murdered repeatedly by the faithful? How dare anyone try to understand that as any kind of logical cause for the rioting thereafter...

If there was a clone of India, I'd totally want Indian muslims to get their desired mughalistan with shariah implemented in full force: their islamic pardees, like Bunglingdesh and Pukestan are at the moment. (Where will their refugees migrate to then, like the Bangladeshi muslims do now?) Pukestan is such a success story after all. Yet Indian muslims have it in them to make muggerstan even better: another Afghanistan. The ultimate pardees on earth. That's something for them to aspire to. And they would totally deserve it.

Post 250 (Shankara): QUOTE<div class='quotetop'>QUOTEWhat an irony? The paper suggests that hindus are terrorists, and you are asking for paper protests instead of the traditional islamic reaction of burning embassies. Perhaps this shows how an unconverted Hindu thinks.True. And I hope there are fewer converted hindus. Hindus shouldn't be too eager to upstage/displace islam's number one ranking and international image, as the world's most violent and aggressive religion - so far islam's only other competitor constantly contending for the top place in this category has been christianity.</div>I think that Sunder's point (post 246) in referring to your attempt at correcting thisislondistan is precisely that unconverted Hindus are not terrorists. Basically, he used your statement (as that of a typical Hindu) - where you described writing to correct them instead of advocating/using christoislamic terrorism - as proof that Hinduism is completely unconnected with the islamoterror. Unconverted Hindus (that is, Hindus, the kind that have not become christoislamic) don't think or act the way that the no-longer-a-hindu convert to islam of the news item does.

QUOTEFirstly, as a Muslim, I categorically condemn the intentions and actions of the Hindu raised terrorist who converted to Islam. How quickly this beloved of the islamic demiurge has responded in condemnation of terrorist activities. I hope he vocally expressed the same sentiments for his brethren's recent jihadi actions against the kafir Spanyards, Italians, Americans, Dutch, Germans, Danes and Brits? Or are his criticisms only reserved for the 'Hindu raised terrorist' who converted to islam. A disingenuous statement that, as it makes it sound like the subject was a terrorist before he saw the Light of Islam; while even the misleading title was more like 'Hindu had converted to terrorism (that is, islam) and planned to kill 1000s'.

**acharya** · 11-11-2006, 01:08 PM

Sense of tolerance is fast vanishing, says Kuldip Nayar

Staff Reporter

`Journalism is one profession where one can stay independent'

IN CONVERSATION: Former Prime Minister H.D. Deve Gowda (left) and veteran journalist Kuldip Nayar at a book release function in Bangalore on Friday. â Photo: Sampath Kumar G.P.

BANGALORE: Veteran journalist Kuldip Nayar on Friday said politicians were bent upon doing things that could disintegrate the country and regretted that the "glue" which united people was drying up.

He was speaking at the launch of "Scoop," a collection of his articles translated into Kannada since 1948 when he began his career, published by Prajavani group of publications.

"When I crossed the border (into India) in 1947 witnessing the mayhem, I thought tomorrow's India will never know killings in the name of religion. But, my day starts with that now," he said.

`Grey' area

When he was the High Commissioner of India to the United Kingdom, he told the then British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher that a "grey" area bonded Indians when she asked him what bound the country.

But now, the sense of tolerance and the temperament of accommodation were fast vanishing, Mr. Nayar said.

Stating that neither newspapers nor politicians had remained the same, Mr. Nayar said that "demolition" of values, which began in 1969 after the Congress split, still continued. He said, "This is not the India that Mahatma Gandhi and Moulana Abul Kalam had dreamt of. Economic growth in terms of percentage has no significance in the midst of poverty. India has to be rebuilt on Gandhian principles and the onus is on the younger generation."

Stating that he began his career in journalism selling newspapers, Mr. Nayar said that he did not aspire to become a journalist when he completed his law degree in Sialkot (now in Pakistan).

Independent

"This (journalism) is one field where I am able to say what I want to." "Journalism is one profession where one can stay independent," Mr. Nayar told budding journalists who were present on the occasion.

Former Prime Minister H.D. Deve Gowda, who released the book, said that the country needed more people like Mr. Nayar to safeguard the rights of the poor and protect the hard-earned freedom.

"Though I too have been at the receiving end of his criticism on various occasions and often I had disagreed with his views, I have always admired him for his forthrightness and noble intentions," the former Prime Minister said.

"Mr. Nayar is among the few senior journalists and columnists, including N. Ram, Malini Parthasarathy, Arun Shourie, B.G. Verghese, Harish Khare and T.V.R. Shenoy, who have not compromised with the eternal principles of freedom, liberty, truth and justice which have guided the fourth, and perhaps, the most important pillar of democracy," Mr. Gowda said.

utepian · 11-12-2006, 01:57 AM

QUOTEMEDIA MATTERS

Trials on the tube

SEVANTI NINAN

The judicial activism of TV channels is a problematic phenomenon.

Photo: Reuters

Striking a chord: A candle for Priyadarshini Mattoo.

FOLLOWING the judgment in the Priyadarshini Mattoo case, TV channels are on a new high. Their leading lights want endorsement of their belief that television, with its sms polls, can now help galvanise justice. Barkha Dutt is asking on "We the People" on NDTV 24x7, "do you believe in the judiciary, or do you believe judiciary needs a push from the media?" Rajdeep Sardesai is haranguing his audience on "Verdict" on CNN-IBN: "Does it require public pressure for the wheels of justice to move?" And Sagarika Ghose, while being chewed up by Ram Jethmalani on the same channel, persists with her question: is he not going against the tide of public opinion as reflected by the press? The first two are purportedly discussing trial by the media but the subtext is: would there have been justice without our intervention?

The contrast in tenor between such bravado and what the judiciary has said in recent days about trial by media is quite striking. The honourable judges are more than a little perturbed. There is a statement a month on the subject but while unhappiness and concern are expressed, there is no invoking of sub judice, no talk of contempt. As yet.

Expressions of concern

In September, the Special TADA court judge in Mumbai trying the Bombay blasts case expressed his unhappiness at the media interviewing the accused, prosecution and defence lawyers within the court premises. In October the Supreme Court made its observations about sting operations taking place for commercial gain. And this month the Chief Justice of India, speaking in Bangalore, urged judges not to feel pressured by the "disturbing trend" of the media creating public perceptions while a case was pending before the court. They should go strictly by the law and the evidence without fear of becoming unpopular. But he also said: "If this continues, there can't be any conviction. Judges are confused because the media has already given a verdict."

The only tough talk has come from the 17th Law Commission, which, in its 200th report this year, took up suo moto the subject of trial by media. It enclosed a draft bill with its recommendations to government, suggesting amendments to the Contempt of Court Act, 1971. One amendment proposed is that the starting point of a criminal case should be from the time of arrest of an accused and not from the time of filing of the charge sheet, so that the media do not prejudge or prejudice the case. (All those amazing press conferences by the police would then go out of the window.) Another proposed amendment would empower the High Court to direct the print or electronic media to postpone publication or telecast pertaining to a criminal case.

Judging from what has become the norm, there is little hope of reining in this brigade. Perhaps that is why the judges themselves are more circumspect. They know what they are up against. There is an enormous amount of discussion today of cases in court.

Different treatments

One reason why the media arrogating to themselves the right to get the wheels of justice moving is problematic is because they treat the accused differently. Some are lovable, some are martyrs, and some are criminals. On the night of November 5, at 8.30 p.m. two different cases were being discussed on two channels. On CNN-IBN, Karan Thapar was being out of character in his handling of Sanjay Dutt, who is waiting for the sentence in his case. "You visited a lot of temples recently," he asked Mr. Dutt. "You have been photographed at them. Does that give you a sense of peace and a sense of calm?" Also, "God forbid it should go the other way, what will you do?"

An anchor on a major news channel was declaring about Manu Sharma in the Jessica Lall case: "As far as we are concerned he is guilty." Said Jethmalani: "The press thinks they are the judges of who is a devil and who is not." Granted, the cases are different. But as far as charges go, surely storing arms in a bomb blast case is not kid stuff?

When there is a death sentence, the one for Afzal Guru leads to consternation, whereas the one for Santosh Singh is greeted with triumphant self-congratulation.

Another problem with the media's judicial activism is that it only campaigns for cases that appeal to its market and its imagination. When Outlook editor Vinod Mehta asked on Ms. Dutt's show last week whether she would be as zealous about a case in Gorakhpur, she responded without missing a beat: "Probably not. These cases work for our audiences because they work for people like us."

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11-18-2006, 09:10 PM

QUOTESikhs blame British policy of 'Asian' tag

Rashmee Roshan Lall

LONDON: British Sikhs have stepped up their attack on the UK's politically-correct policy of lumping Sikhs and Hindus with the omnibus tag 'Asian' instead of clearly identifying Muslims as the offenders when needed, just 48 hours after a Scottish Sikh teenager was viciously attacked by a white gang and forced to submit to having his long hair hacked off.

In a loaded attack on British political correctness, Sikh leaders blamed the Edinburgh incident on the UK's refusal to identify Asian Muslims as perpetrators of crime. Instead, said the Sikh Federation, Britain's only Sikh political party, racist offenders against whites are routinely described by the British media as "Asian". The Federation said, "The media by adopting such a crude policy was putting at risk those most visible amongst Asians - a simple phrase that the media is using to describe those with brown skin."

The attack on British political correctness comes nearly a fortnight after the high-profile sentencing in the Scottish city of Glasgow of three 'Asian' Muslim men who horrifically killed a young white man, Kriss Donald, in a racist attack that shocked Scotland and much of the world.

On Friday, UK Sikh leaders said the community believed that the attack on the Sikh teenager was "directly linked to (the) conviction in Scotland for the horrific killing of a young white man by four Muslims."

They said the 15-year-old Sikh boy may have become the unfortunate scapegoat for white teenagers angry about Donald's racially-aggravated murder at the hands of a brown gang.

The Federation said, "Sikhs with turbans are the most visible minority in the UK that is facing increased racism as the media and public authorities are adopting 'general' descriptions and avoiding the harsh facts and reality of the situation".

Sikh leaders told TOI , in another loaded reference to recent racially-charged attacks on British Sikh cricketer Monty Panesa, "We have had killings, bombings and mass murder in the UK. What will it take for the media and public authorities to start calling a spade a spade and educating the public about Sikhs, who do not want to be called Asians or Indians and are different to Muslims and Hindus? The events of the last few days show if you are a 15 year old schoolboy or a world famous international cricketer you have one thing in common - your Sikh identity and you will be subjected to racial abuse and attack as the authorities are failing the Sikhs."

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/NEWS/Wo...676,curpg-2.cms

11-26-2006, 01:17 AM

Why is this guy batting for Brad and Jolie? Is it to please his bossess?
Star Stuck
http://www.indianexpress.com/story/17225.html
It may be difficult to confirm whether the bodyguards of Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie did push, shove or abuse Indians during their filmâs shooting in Mumbai recently, but that the Mumbai police arrested them is baffling. Efforts were often made to portray and malign the filmâs cast and crew as overtly racist but had there been any substance in the case, the court could not have acted equally swiftly in releasing them on bail.

11-26-2006, 01:25 AM

QUOTEWhy is this guy batting for Brad and Jolie? Is it to please his bossess?
Nah!! The writer is a Congress MP in Rajya Sabha.
Now you know why he is doing.

Bharatvarsh · 11-29-2006, 10:08 PM

QUOTEThe BJP knows as well as anybody else that India and China have to display a spirit of give and take. To that extent Arunachal Pradesh and Aksai Chin may well be linked, taking one could mean giving the other. The main Opposition party would be well advised not to play politics with serious issues related to border talks with China.

http://www.hinduonnet.com/2006/11/24/stori...12403601100.htm
The Hindu hereby has completed it's transformation into the People's Daily.

11-29-2006, 10:14 PM

HT, TOI and Hindu works for foreign interest. And journalist in these organisation works for highest bidder.
See how they are towing CHini line, they can sell their mother-daughter anyday to chini on "buy one get one free" deal.

12-12-2006, 11:19 PM

QUOTEAdvani's interview transcript "malicious": Rajnath 
Pioneer.com
Agencies | New Delhi
The BJP, which faced some embarrassment over excerpts released by a TV channel of an interview with senior party leader LK Advani, today called the pre-telecast transcript of the programme as "reporting with malicious intent".

The cadre based party has found a whole lot of difference between the context in which Advani had spoken and the pre-telecast transcript of the interview with the former Deputy Prime Minister.

"The transcript was nothing but a case of reporting with malicious intent. It was made out to create a sensation about the programme before its telecast... May be for TRP reasons," BJP chief Rajnath Singh said as he emerged out of the parliamentary party meeting.

News reports based on the transcript left the party in an awkward situation for a day with Advani quoted as saying that he would be the BJP's candidate for the Prime Minister's post but he did not expect party veteran AB Vajpayee to endorse his candidature.

According to the excerpts released by the channel, Advani said his role in the party was that of a consultant now.

12-24-2006, 08:37 PM

A rehash of stereotypes by Dan McDougall in The Guardian. A hilarious read.

Indian men buy a new image to win beautiful brides
Dan McDougall in New Delhi
The glowing 'white' faces of Bollywood's leading men and women stare out from the gaudy packaging on dozens of beauty creams piled ceiling high in the chaotic bustle of a Delhi pharmacy. Fair and Handsome, Lady Diana Whitening Beauty Cream, Milky Skin Now - the brands' purpose needs no imagination.
'More and more wealthy young Indian men are getting surgery before they get married and in many cases to help them find a perfect match,' said Narendra Pandya, a leading Indian surgeon with a diploma from the American Board of Plastic Surgery. 'If one is handsome or beautiful in India one doesn't have to look for a job. The job will come to you. The new middle class understands the importance of appearance.'
Dr Anup Dhir, a senior consultant at the Apollo hospital, said the most popular operation for men was the nose job, or rhinoplasty, starting at Â£500. Removing a scar cost from Â£300 and liposuction began at Â£900.
Many young men consulting Dr Rashmi Taneja, a surgeon at Ganga Ram Hospital, want to look like their screen heroes. 'My patients range from rich young men wanting to look like the Bollywood star John Abraham and get married as quickly as possible, to executives who have an image to maintain.'
Social scientist Ajai Liu Niumai believes Indians want to exploit a bias towards a light skin: 'Indians are conditioned over the ages to believe the "low castes" have a dark complexion and "higher classes" are fair.'
The fashion for plastic surgery was linked to this. 'A few decades ago, men in south India considered plump and not-so-fair-skinned women attractive. But now they find slim, fair-skinned women from the north and the Indian diaspora the most beautiful of all.'
An increasing number of foreigners, many of them British Asians, are flying in for cheap operations. India has launched an aggressive campaign to sell itself as a medical tourism hub.
But the British Association of Aesthetic Plastic Surgeons has expressed doubts about the quality of practices abroad and it suggests some botched operations are left for the NHS to sort out when patients return home.

**acharya** · 12-26-2006, 07:55 AM

The Anti-Hindu Media of India contolled by anti-Hindus & non-Hindus

Which Media is
controlled by whom &
how does it derive benefit
http://intellibriefs.blogspot.com/2006/12/...iege-in-ap.html


NDTV:
Funded by Gospels of Charity in Spain supports Communism. Recently it has developed a soft corner towards Pakistan because Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be aired in Pakistan. Indian CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat, Gen Secy of Communist party of India.

CNN-IBN:
100% Funded by Southern Baptist Church with its branches in all over the world with HQ in US. The Church annualy allocates 800 Million Dollars for Promotion of its channel. Its Indian Head is Rajdeep Sardesai and his wife Sagarika Ghosh.

TIMES GROUP LIST:
TIMES OF INDIA, MID-DAY, NAV-BHARTH TIMES, STARDUST, FEMINA, VIJAYA TIMES, VIJAYA KARNATAKA, TIMES NOW (24 hr News Channel) & many more.

Times Group is owned by Bennet & Coleman. 80% of the Funding is done by "WORLD CHRISTIAN COUNCIL" , and balance 20% is equally shared by an Englishman and an Italian. The Italian ROBERTIO MINDO IS A CLOSE RELATIVE OF SONIA GANDHI.

STAR TV:
Is run by an Australian, who is supported by St. Peters Pontificial Church Melbourne.

HINDUSTAN TIMES:
Owned by Birla Group, but hands have changed since Shobana Bhartiya took over. Presently it is working in Collobration with Times Group.

THE HINDU:
A English Daily, started over 125 years has been recently taken over by Joshua Society, Berne, Switzerland.

INDIAN EXPRESS:
DIVDED INTO TWO GROUPS. THE INDIAN EXPRESS & NEW INDIAN EXPRESS (SOUTHERN EDITION). Acts Ministries has major stake in the Indian express and later is still with the Indian counterpart

EEENADU:
Still to date controlled by an Indian named Ramoji Rao

ANDHRA JYOTHI:
The MUSLIM PARTY OF HYDERABAD known as (MIM) along with a Congress Minister Has purchased this Telgu daily very recently.

THE STATESMAN:
It is controlled by Communist Party of India

KAIRAL TV:
It is Controlled by Communist party of India (marxist)

MATHRABHOOMI:
Leaders of muslim league and Communist Leaders have major investment.

ASIAN AGE &
DECCAN CHRONICLE:
Is owned by a Saudi Arabian Company with its chief Editor M.J.AKBAR.

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Shocking dimension
has emerged in India
-- a concerted attack on Hindu interests &
institutions, organized by Christian groups & supported by the Congress

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âAll this is part of a concerted attack on Hindu interests and institutions, organized by Christian groups and supported by the Congressâ¦. People, including those who should know better, ridiculed me when I said a couple of years ago that the Church with its peculiar historical sense see Sonia Gandhi in the same light as Constantine, who by his hospitality to early Christianity to take over the Roman Empireâ¦ To those who know history, the present conflict has an early similarity to the 4th century. Christians were less than 4 percent in the Roman Empire, by they managed to seize control.â

-- Dr. N. S. Rajaram

**acharya** · 12-26-2006, 08:47 AM

<img src='http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20061224/capt.all10212241237.india_christmas_all102.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20061224/capt.all10212241237.india_christmas_all102.jpg

A man dressed as Santa Clause poses for photographs with a Sadhu, or Hindu holy man, on the banks of River Ganges in Allahabad, India, Sunday, Dec. 24, 2006. Though Hindus and Muslims comprise the majority of the population in India, Christmas is celebrated with much fanfare. (AP Photo/Rajesh Kumar Singh.)

12-27-2006, 12:38 AM

acharya:
QUOTE(acharya @ Dec 25 2006, 10:25 PM)
NDTV:
Funded by Gospels of Charity in Spain supports Communism. Recently it has developed a soft corner towards Pakistan because Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be aired in Pakistan. Indian CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat, Gen Secy of Communist party of India.
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Do you know that Arundhati is Prannoy Roy's first cousin?

http://www.rediff.com/news/oct/15mary.htm
(someone on IF had emailed me this)

QUOTE"In the past few weeks, India was being impeded by bookie ratings -- Star News was showing it every day," she said. (Prannoy Roy, the Star Newscaster, incidentally, is Arundhati's first cousin.)

12-27-2006, 01:20 AM

Nice to know all scums are related to each other... prakash, brinda, radhika, prannoy, arundhati. These commies are close community.

QUOTE(Viren @ Dec 26 2006, 03:08 PM)acharya:
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NDTV:
Funded by Gospels of Charity in Spain supports Communism. Recently it has developed a soft corner towards Pakistan because Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be aired in Pakistan. Indian CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat, Gen Secy of Communist party of India.
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Do you know that Arundhati is Prannoy Roy's first cousin?

http://www.rediff.com/news/oct/15mary.htm
(someone on IF had emailed me this)

QUOTE"In the past few weeks, India was being impeded by bookie ratings -- Star News was showing it every day," she said. (Prannoy Roy, the Star Newscaster, incidentally, is Arundhati's first cousin.)
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12-27-2006, 04:07 AM

What is more troubling is the new thing about cross-holding in the desi media. Major media houses have started this new trend of cross-holding in each others' companies. Editorial boards will loose even the last semblance of independent thinking.

12-27-2006, 09:35 PM

LSrini: What we are seeing is emergence of a new "Parivar". In this family they have basically cornered the "human rights + intellectual" (Arundhati), street goonda &political muscle (Karat) and the media (Prannoy) aspect.

On a positive note, this should be give some sleepless nights to the current "first" family who's dreaming of the kiddo taking over as next PM. Of course, we've got to worry about this new powerful commie family pulling a Nepal in India.

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