BJP Future - 4

10-16-2006, 10:14 PM

Ramana,

I would blame BJP instead of RSS.

First all during the NDA rule, they actively suppressed Hindu issues, ostensibly due to coalition dharma. Fine, but what was the reason to make their poll campaign completely hindu-neutral?

Any hindu grouping including RSS would be justified in generalizing that if that NDA, with that hindu neutral campaign, came to power it would drop any pretense of caring for hindu causes. since it would be perfectly justifiable by poll results and every two bit leader and media loudmouths would be jumping up and own reminding NDA that it DIDN'T win for espousing hindu causes.

What about nationalistic causes? Sure RSS calls itself hindu-nationalistic. But its idea of nationalism is not Nehruvian, where being nationalistic means being hindu-neutral or even anti-hindu. That is Congress for you. And an NDA victory in last elections would have solidified BJP's congressization.

BJP didn't ask for hindu votes. It asked for hindu-neutral nationalistic votes. And it got whatever hindu-neutral nationalistic votest there were. So why the complaint?

A person doesn't vote as a hindu just because he/she is a hindu. He/she votes as a hindu if that identity is of importance to him/her when he/she caste the vote. In last elections people voted with other identities paramount in their minds, not hindu identity. During last elections no one asked for hindu votes. And no one got them.

The present government of MMS has taken a majority of decisions supporting the causes of "minorities". Evidently MMS government is by the minorities, of the minorities, and for the minorities. Blame or praise for this situation rests squarely on ABV and LKA's shoulders, not on RSS. JMHO.

ramana · 10-16-2006, 10:26 PM

Ashok,
But what is the end result? Are Hindu interests protected and furthered by the not supporting the BJP and NDA or contrawise? The bigger picture should not be lost sight of.

10-16-2006, 10:38 PM

Ramana,

It was an emotional blackmail by BJP to expect hindu votes while keeping their campaign completely hindu neutral while tom-tomming Abdullah Bukhari as a major supporter of ABV.

That emotional blackmail backfired. And BJP, RSS, hindus and India all have been the losers.

In the short term the situation definitely looks bleak for BJP. But in the long term, may be it is for the better, may be they needed a whipping. It is almost sure that BJP will not repeat the mistake of keeping its campaign hindu neutral from now on.
JMHO.

10-21-2006, 09:29 PM

BJP MLA, wife murdered, <img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/devilsmiley.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='devilsmiley.gif' /> accused arrested
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KHANDWA: BJP MLA and former Madhya Pradesh Minister Kishori Lal Verma and his wife were allegedly stabbed to death by a local contractor on Saturday on the banks of Narmada river at Kedi Ghat, 65km from here.

Verma, who represented Pandahana constituency in the state Assembly had gone for a holy dip in the river near Omkareshwara along with his wife on the occasion of Diwali when they were attacked with a sharp-edged weapon by the construction contractor, witnesses said.

The accused has been arrested, police said adding a dispute over payment seemed to be behind the attack. Senior police officials rushed to the site soon after the incident and steps were being taken to ensure that no untoward incident took place in the area.

Verma was the state Education Minister during the then BJP government in early 1990s.

10-27-2006, 06:42 AM

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10-27-2006, 07:33 PM

Vajpayee makes an exception, to campaign for UP local bodiesâ polls
Pradeep KaushalPosted online: Thursday, October 26, 2006 at 0000 hrs Print Email
NEW DELHI, OCTOBER 25: Former PM Atal Behari Vajpayee has so far kept himself away from local bodiesâ polls. But he has decided to make an exception now. Party sources disclosed that Vajpayee would address a rally in support of party nominees in local polls at his constituency Lucknow on October 27.

Though local BJP leaders were keen on Vajpayee addressing three public meetings in the city, party president Rajnath Singh shot down the idea. âThis would be below Vajpayeeâs stature,â Singh is learnt to have told them, underlining that it was a climbdown from the party convention.

The BJP has fielded Lucknow University reader Dinesh Sharma for the mayoral election, who faces a stiff challenge from SP candidate Madhu Gupta and Congress nominee Manzoor Ahmed Khan. Sources feel the SP has an upper hand in the UP capital. A former president of the state Yuva Morcha, Sharma is a protÃ©gÃ© of state general secretary (organisation) Nagendra. He is also believed to be close to the former prime minister.

Sharma has outmanoeuvered Ashutosh Tandon, son of BJP legislature party leader Lalji Tandon, for getting the party nomination. Vajpayeeâs public meeting would also neutralise any possible damage to Sharma from Tandonsâ unhappiness.

The BJP chief himself also deviated from convention and addressed election rallies at Kanpur and Varanasi. He is scheduled to address more rallies on October 27 when he would proceed to Aligarh and Agra along with the partyâs chief ministerial candidate Kalyan Singh after receiving Vajpayee at Lucknow.
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11-05-2006, 10:47 PM

Unite for Hindu unity: RSS to Uma, BJPQUOTENew Delhi, November 5: Unhappy over a showdown between the BJP and its former leader Uma Bharati in Vidisha and Bada Malehra bypolls in Madhya Pradesh, the RSS believes both should reunite to consolidate the 'Hindu Sangh'.

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It should be an occasion to celebrate when the "military unity of the Hindu Sangh" becomes 'one' against 'Gazni (an apparent reference to the Congress)', the editorial said.

"Until when will the Hindu society keep fighting internal feud and splits?" it added.

The editorial, however, praised Madhya Pradesh Chief Minister Shivraj Singh Chouhan for his leadership skills

11-05-2006, 11:27 PM

I couldn't find the editorial on the panchjanya website. I am curious to know whether RSS wants just electoral "unity" between Uma Bhaati's party and BJP (just as between Shiv Sena and BJP) or does it want wholesale unification of the two parties.

**acharya** · 11-06-2006, 02:11 AM

Jolt to Uma, BJP keeps Vidisha, her seat Malehra
Girish Sharma | Bhopal
The Pioneer
Nov. 4, 2006

Dashing all hopes of Bharatiya Jan Shakti (BJS) president Uma Bharati, the BJP won both Vidisha Lok Sabha and Bada Malehra Assembly seats in Madhya Pradesh on Thursday.

Uma was banking on the voters of Bada Malehra, from where she won in 2003 with a huge margin, to elect her candidate. But the people have clearly belied her expectations.

This is the first time that Bharati tested her party's electoral luck by fielding candidates against the BJP and the Congress. Kapoorchand Ghuwara, the BJP candidate from Bada Malehra, defeated his nearest rival, Rekha Yadav of the BJS, by about 4,386 votes in a 22-corner contest.

In Vidisha, the BJP's Rampal Singh won by 85,088 votes over his nearest rival, the Congress' Rajshree Singh. The BJS came in third.

Till now, Bada Malehra was perceived as a stronghold of Bharati. She was elected to the State Assembly from this constituency on a BJP ticket in December 2003 by a margin of over 31,000 votes.

After her expulsion from the BJP, Bharati resigned from Bada Malehra and launched the BJS. She fielded Yadav, a relative of former legislator late Uma Yadav, as the BJS candidate and became her election agent. Her candidate came in second while Shukla was relegated to the third spot.

The Vidisha Lok Sabha constituency fell vacant after Shivraj Singh Chauhan became Chief Minister and was elected to the State Assembly. The BJP has retained the seat with its candidate and Madhya Pradesh PHE Minister Rampal Singh trouncing his Congress rival Ms Rajshree Singh by a margin of 85,088 votes.

Singh polled 2,58,263 votes against 1,73,175 votes bagged by his Congress rival. BJS' State president Raghunandan Sharma came in third, securing 1,37,354 votes.

Low voter turnout appears to have affected the voting figures. The BJP's winning margin in Vidisha this time around is less compared to that of 2004 when Chauhan bagged 65.19 per cent votes and defeated his nearest rival, Congress' Narmada Prasad Sharma, by over 2.5 lakh votes. Chauhan has won five elections from Vidisha. Pioneer News Service adds from Bhubaneswar: The Congress has retained Talsara Assembly constituency in Orissa, defeating the BJP by 2,574 votes.

11-10-2006, 01:09 AM

11-23-2006, 01:07 AM

QUOTENation not safe in hands of weak-kneed Govt: Atal 
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Deepak Kumar Jha | New Delhi
Buoyed by the success of recent civic polls in Uttar Pradesh and the presence of about a lakh of supporters in a protest rally in the Capital on Wednesday, the BJP challenged the policies of UPA Government amid slogans of Rashtrawad Mein Khot Dikhe, Aatanki Mein Vote Dikhe.

Challenging the Congress-led Government at the Centre, former Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee said that this Government should change its pro-terrorist, appeasement policies otherwise the people of India would be compelled to change this Government at the earliest.Â Â

"The country is not safe in the hands of this weak and confused Government. The people of the country want a change," Vajpayee said addressing the workers at Parliament Street while participating in the 'Rashtriya Suraksha Sankalp March' to gherao the Parliament on the first day of the Winter Session.

Clearly charged by the large presence of BJP supporters amid scores of protests and demonstrations at Jantar Mantar including that of Samajwadi Party, Vajpayee said that BJP's rally (on Wednesday) will introduce a new chapter in Indian politics.

"By organising the people of the country under a single umbrella and by making drastic changes in the present intolerable situation, BJP will provide relief to the nation from the pain and sorrow inflicted continuously by the UPA Government," he added, sitting in the midst of stalwarts like former Deputy Prime Minister LK Advani, party president Rajnath Singh, Jaswant Singh, Murli Manohar Joshi, Sushma Swaraj and Delhi BJP president Harshvardhan.

In an apparent reference to the resumption of dialogue with Pakistan, Vajpayee maintained that talks at this juncture were futile. "They (terrorists) are challenging us, but the Government is finding ways to talk. We are not against talks, but what is its use? The Government is not sure about its own moves," the former Prime Minister said also referring to the recent Mumbai blasts in his speech.

Workers from many States including Delhi besides 166 MPs and peoples' representatives marched towards Parliament passing through all the entry points of Delhi, Rajghat and from Birla Mandir to Jantar Mantar to court arrest. Given their large numbers, the BJP protestors were declared arrested on Parliament Street itself.

A senior Delhi Police official declared from the dais that there was no room to keep such a large number of arrested workers and MPs in the jails hence all are freed from this point, marking an end to the massive rally with the crowd busting into laughter.

Earlier, Advani claimed that Delhi had never seen such a massive demonstration, a clear indication of the frustration among the people of the country with the present Government. 

"The attack on Parliament by the five Pakistani terrorists was a war against India. Manmohan Singh and Sonia Gandhi are mum on the issue of hanging Afzal Guru. This is fraud on the country," he said at the backdrop of placards like 'Vande Mataram Se Sharmate - Atanki Ko Gale Lagate', 'Congress Afzal Ki Gale Milayee - Atanki-Congress Bhai-Bhai', 'Congress Ka Bandobast - Atanki Ghuspathi Mast'.

Addressing the gathering, BJP president Rajnath Singh, who led the march from Birla Mandir, voiced disappointment over the delay in Afzal's execution as ordered by the Supreme Court. "We have seen increasing terrorist strikes in various parts of the country. But the Government is doing nothing. This Government is weakening the country," he said. Jaswant Singh, Sushma Swaraj, Vijay Kumar Malhotra, Murli Manohar Joshi, Vijay Goel and Harshvardhan also addressed the rally. Later a resolution condemning the Government's "silence" on Afzal's hanging was also passed


http://www.ibnlive.com/videos/26760/bjp-du...a-ideology.html

11-25-2006, 03:58 AM

I believe BJP is on comeback trail.

Atleast in UP, it will be in a position to form a government with the help of Mayawati. Inspite of a lot of us not liking the situation of forming a government with BSP. Getting BSP into NDA changes a lot of political configurations.

The mood of country is definitely change from Cong rule.

Anyone in the IF who recently visited UP? Could someone post some realtime news rather than news from Marxist media.

11-25-2006, 08:21 AM

Currently atmosphere in UP and Delhi is very much anti-Congress and anti-sickulars. Overall people are disappointed by MMS performance and appeasement policy. It is very difficult to say whether it will convert into votes. Only difference is covertly VHP/Sangh privar had mobilized root level mobilization, plus polarization is very much visible. Every other party is fighting for OBC and Muslim votes, which puts BJP in very good position. Meerut result reflects public mood. People voted on religious line, which shows polarization is even more then 1992 event.

Queen and in fight between Kangress is brewing.

11-25-2006, 09:21 AM

QUOTE(Mudy @ Nov 25 2006, 08:21 AM)Only difference is covertly VHP/Sangh privar had mobilized root level mobilization, plus polarization is very much visible.


If the above statement is true then we could see NDA back in power. This was one of the problems last time. VHP and RSS work is equivalant to Karl Rowe's strategy from Republicans in US.

Last time they are somewhat away from the strategy because they thought ABV and BJP is going away from core. They did not realize that the alternative is worse.

I think they should go with Mayawati in UP. (I know a lot of people will not agree with me on this). I believe they will go with BSP post elections.

11-25-2006, 11:15 AM

Mayawati is strong in some area but lacks funding, she may have to spend her own money. Elections are still 4-5 months away anything can happen. We may even see mid-term poll.

11-27-2006, 05:17 AM

QUOTERajnath re-elected BJP president 
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Rajeev Ranjan Roy | New Delhi
Atal, Advani praise his leadership qualities, wish him long innings

The BJP on Sunday completed the formality of giving a full three-year term to party president Rajnath Singh. Following his unanimous election to the post, former Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee and Leader of Opposition in Lok Sabha LK Advani expressed confidence in Singh, saying, "he would take the party to the heights of great success in days to come."

While Vajpayee said that the party's prospects were bright in the hands of Singh, Advani complimented him for scripting the outstanding success in the recent civic and by-elections and hoped the party would repeat such performances in the future too. "He would carry all along and keep producing outstanding results in the coming days as well," Advani said.Â

"The first innings of Singh was quite successful. The second innings beginning today is more challenging. We hope that he would come up to our expectations and that of the nation, and we pledge complete co-operation to him," Vajpayee said in his imitable style.

The biggest task before Rajnath now is ensuring the party's victory in Uttar Pradesh and Uttaranchal where there is a lot at stake for the lotus outfit. Both Atal and Advani hinted at this in their remarks. Advani was more forthright stating that the recent results would be repeated in the future too. In Uttar Pradesh, there are 403 seats at stake, where the BJP won around 88 seats in the last election.

The compliments and good wishes of the two senior most party leaders to Singh were accompanied by thunderous applause from other senior colleagues. Former Human Resource Development Minister Murli Manohar Joshi, M Venkaiah Naidu, Sushma Swaraj, Kalyan Singh and Vijay Kumar Malhotra all of whom were present on the dais.
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11-29-2006, 01:48 AM

QUOTENDA wants debate over Patil's remark
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The National Democratic Alliance wants a debate over a remark made by Home Minister Shivraj Patil regarding the threat to India's nuclear establishments.

On November 22, Patil had said in a conference of state police chiefs in New Delhi that, "Our critical infrastructure faces a serious threat from terrorists."

Patil, to surprise of many, also elaborated, "In view of the recent Indo-US agreement on civil nuclear energy cooperation, our atomic power plants have become highly vulnerable."

NDA leaders have taken serious note of Patil's apprehensions.

George Fernandes, leader ofÂ NDA, moved a Calling Attention notice in the Lok Sabha concerning this matter of urgent public importance.

Under the rule, he wrote to the office ofÂ Lok Sabha's secretary general, but Speaker Somnath Chatterjee rejected Fernandes' plea to seek a response from Patil.

Patil has been saved from embarrassment. However, Fernandes wants a debate on the issue and an explanation from Patil as to why the Indo-US nuclear deal should not be cancelled.

On November 24, Fernandes wrote to the Lok Sabha Secretariat mentioning that he is seeking attention to Patil's statement that terrorists are taking over uninhabited islands as a base to target nuclear plants, which are at risk post the Indo-US nuclear deal.

"The nuclear deal with US has made Indian atomic power plants highly vulnerable to terrorists. Would the government cancel the nuclear deal with US to avoid such disaster?" Fernandes asked.

Fernandes wants Patil to make a statement over the issue. The NDA is taking this statement so seriously that former prime minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee, Leader of the Opposition Lal Kishenchand Advani, Bharatiya Janata Party chief Rajnath Singh and Fernandes have met President A P J Abdul Kalam over the issue and have submitted their concerns in writing on November 25. 

India has 15 nuclear power plants in operation, with an installed generating capacity of over 3,000 megawatts. Seven more plants with a capacity ofÂ around 3,500 MW are under construction and scheduled for completion before 2010.

Out of these plants, around 14 plants will be able to get imported fuel, technology and equipment once India signs necessary agreements with the US and agrees to the terms of the International Atomic Energy Agency


Really!!! Is running to Kalam for a photo op the best that BJP can do? Wow! Instead of just talking to Kalam, they gave it in WRITING!!! What a bunch of impotents.

11-29-2006, 06:44 AM

<img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbup.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='thumbup.gif' /> Advani sees Ayodhya-type support for BJP

New Delhi

Senior BJP leader LK Advani on Tuesday drew a parallel between the Ayodhya movement that he had led and his party's high-pitched campaign over internal security as citing the "level of public support" to his organisation over the two issues. Two days after the re-election of Sangh-backed Rajnath Singh as BJP chief, Advani said he believed public support to the party was at present as much as it was during the Ram temple campaign almost 15 years ago.

"Advani told the parliamentary party meeting that the atmosphere today is reminiscent of the Ayodhya movement. He said the party is drawing enormous support, as it had drawn during that period, over its internal security campaign and that it should be strengthened," senior BJP leader Vijay Kumar Malhotra said.

11-29-2006, 07:43 AM

QUOTEAdvani sees Ayodhya-type support for BJP 
He should stop gloating.

**acharya** · 11-29-2006, 08:35 AM

BJP strikes at 'Islamisation of politics'

Tuesday, 28 November , 2006, 10:30
Sify.com/Indian Express

New Delhi: In unmistakable signals of the BJP playing its Hindutva card, senior party leader Kalyan Singh on Tuesday said "Islamisation of politics" would be the party's key plank in the Assembly elections in Uttar Pradesh.
Buoyed by the party's success in the recent civic elections in the state, the BJP is now eyeing the number one slot in the Assembly polls in the state that once swept the saffron party to centre stage over the Ayodhya issue.

Elaborating on "Islamisation of politics", the Hindutva hardliner said that political parties were going in for "minority appeasement" through moves like reservation for Muslims and granting a minority status to the Aligarh Muslim University.

He also voiced suspicion that the delay in execution of Parliament attack convict Mohammad Afzal could be because of the upcoming elections in Uttar Pradesh.
"This is nothing but Islamisation of politics," he said, adding that terrorism and threats to internal security were also plank on which the party would go to the people.
Rejecting possibilities of extending support to the BSP in forming the next government, he said his party had a bitter experience of sharing power in the state. And this time, he claimed, the BJP would be able to win a full majority.
"We have thrice carried the palanquin of Mayawati and now there is pain in our shoulders. It was a very painful experience. We do not want to repeat it," the former Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister, who is leading the saffron campaign in the crucial polls, said.

Singh, who led the party to power in the state for the first time 15 years ago against the backdrop of the Ayodhya movement, called the Ram temple a symbol of faith, culture, tradition and nationalism.
He, however, said Ayodhya could not be an issue for the party to garner votes.
"We are committed to building a Ram temple in Ayodhya. But Ram is over and above partisan politics," he remarked, adding the party would give a befitting response to its detractors if challenged on the issue.
With the importance of Uttar Pradesh in the scheme of things in mind, Singh went the extra mile in the interview to project that all was well within his party and its ties with the Sangh Parivar.
"There are no ideological or programmatic differences. We are all united" was his refrain.
Singh summed up his party's electoral strategy in three words â badla (revenge), badlo (change), vikalp (alternative)" â to regain the centre stage once again.
Elaborating on the three-word formula to woo voters, Singh sought to drive home the point that the people of the state have an opportunity to "avenge misrule" of Mulayam Singh Yadav in Uttar Pradesh and of the Congress at the Centre.

"Falling from a frying pan into fire is a change. But it is not a change for better," he said, emphasising that a vote to Mayawati would sure lead to a change but "her rule will be as bad as the SP's."
"The only alternative available to the people is the BJP," he claimed, adding that the people have started talking "nostalgically" about the saffron rule in the state and of the Vajpayee government at the Centre.
Singh, who is the BJP's chief ministerial candidate in Uttar Pradesh, also called UP Chief Minister Mulayam Singh Yadav's "clean chit" to outlawed Students' Islamic Movement of India (SIMI), despite its suspected involvement in anti-national activities, part of "Islamisation of politics".
Terror strikes, including in Jammu and Kashmir and Ayodhya, and the government's handling of such situations shows that the powers that be do not want to antagonise Muslims, he alleged.
Demanding that the state assembly elections be held under the President's rule, he said a high-level delegation of the party would soon be meeting President A P J Abdul Kalam in this regard.
"This is necessary as there is mafia rule in Uttar Pradesh under which free and fair elections are not possible," the former Chief Minister said, alleging that there have been 16,000 murders, 7,000 rapes and 6,000 kidnappings during the three-year SP rule.

Dismissing the Congress' charges that the BJP and the SP were hand-in-glove, he said the cap fits the Congress not his party.
"It is the Congress that is supporting the Mulayam Singh government and it is the Samajwadi Party which is backing the Congress at the Centre. The BJP is nowhere involved," he said.
He also rejected suggestions that his party owed its success in the recent civic elections in Uttar Pradesh to the non-participation of the BSP in the contest.
"Whatever success we as also the Congress achieved was on our own strength and not because of any overt or covert support," Singh said.

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