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07-06-2007, 07:23 PM

QUOTEISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf's plane was fired on as it took off on Friday from a military airfield in Rawalpindi, an intelligence officer said, contradicting official denials.
Seems like faujis were very happy to see Mushy.

Till now who are against Mushy-
Lawyers
Geo - TV station
Talibs
Some Fondos
Some faujies

not many,

07-06-2007, 07:27 PM

QUOTEPakistan's mosque fire spreads 
By Syed Saleem Shahzad
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/IG07Df01.html

ATol: Maulana Abdul Aziz has been arrested. Many people believe the way in which he was arrested does not match the actions of a person who preaches to others to sacrifice their lives for the cause.

Aziz: This is all government propaganda. The night Maulana Abdul Aziz was arrested and brought to [state-run television] PTV, I had just finished a talk show and was on the way out with Ejazul Haq [minister for religious affairs] and the anchor of the program. I saw Maulana Aziz along with security officials. He hugged me, but only touched fingers when Ejaz tried to shake hands with him.
He immediately told me that he had been deceived. He said he was called by a senior official of an intelligence agency with whom he had been in touch for a long time. Since the official could not enter the mosque to meet him [to save his cover and identity] he asked Maulana Aziz to come to Aabpara police station [in walking distance of the mosque] and asked him to dress in a burqa to avoid being identified. [Aziz admitted that he and his brother Ghazi had done this many times before when they were declared wanted by the government]. But as soon as Maulana Aziz left the mosque he was arrested.

07-06-2007, 07:38 PM

QUOTE6 soldiers martyred in suicide attack near Malakand 
PESHAWAR: Six soldiers were martyred in a suicide attack on a military convoy at Chakdara near Malakand in North West Frontier Province.

According to reports a Major, a Captain and four other soldiers were martyred in the attack on Friday.

Security forces have cordoned off the area and investigating into the incident.

07-06-2007, 10:57 PM

It is on Mr Burqa from some fora

Kaun Kehta hai Kay Maut Ayege Toh Mar Jayounga,
Mein Maulana Abdul Aziz houn, Burqay mein nikal jayounga.

07-07-2007, 03:26 AM

QUOTEMush resents 'aunty' cleric's TV interview 
Pioneer.com
PTI | Islamabad
Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf has reportedly "resented" the airing of a "humiliating" interview by state-run PTV of head cleric of Lal Masjid Maulana Abdul Aziz, who was caught while trying to escape in a 'burqa' a day ago.

Musharraf has directed the channel not to repeat the telecast of the interview in which Aziz was "grilled" in the same burqa robes he wore while attempting to flee.

The Pakistan President resented the airing of the humiliating interview while chairing a meeting attended among others by Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz, Interior Minister Aftab Ahmed Khan Sherpao, Interior Secretary Kamal Shah, National Security Council Secretary Tariq Aziz and senior civil and Army authorities, local daily The News reported on Friday.

It was observed that the interview had sent wrong signals across the country damaging the reputation the Government had earned by showing extraordinary restraint in case of Lal Masjid, especially in delaying the launch of the commando action for the sake of safety and security of innocent people, the report said.

The interview had also apparently resulted in hardening the stand of Aziz's brother Abdul Rashid Ghazi who appeared hesitant to surrender fearing the same humiliating treatment, it said.

In the interview, Aziz said he tried to leave the premises of Lal Masjid in consultation with other colleagues, including his brother Ghazi and asked the militant students to surrender, saying they will not be able to resist the operation.

In the high-level security meeting, Musharraf has directed the security agencies to be patient in carrying out the operation at Lal Masjid and allow maximum time for the parents to safely take out their daughters from the Jamia Hafsa. Meanwhile, parents of girl students stranded in the Jamia Hafsa had requested Musharraf to give time to their daughters to come out of the Madrasa, saying they had no links with the administration, the newspaper said

07-07-2007, 03:34 AM

For our reader only, Please join us and make Mushy very happy

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7FxIvigc4T8&m...ed&search=
Lal Masjid - July 4th - Maulana Aziz Arrested in Burqa

Here is Aziz's Burqa - from 2.00 onward
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wMpiMgqN88Q
Watch how he lifts his Burqa, well trained from Hira Mandi of La-whore.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rBVNPRcwuIo&m...ed&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6RPNmesZpc
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Naresh · 07-07-2007, 01:33 PM

Mudy Ji :

Kulnashak confirms my contention that the âLal Masjidâ confrontation was due not to Bush pushing Mushâs Tush but the Chinese Kicking Mushâs Arse with the utmost force :

Through democracy alone : Kuldip Nayar

QUOTEWhen seven Chinese nationals were whisked away by seminary students, they went too far. No doubt, they were released but the government lost face because the Chinese government behaved as if it did not have enough confidence in the authority of the Musharraf government. <img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Flush.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='Flush.gif' /> 

Cheers <img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cheers.gif' />

07-07-2007, 08:49 PM

Nareshji,
Chini Sahab told Mia Mushy, we are not going to give you anymore toys for paint work in future till you don't release our spies and stop killing are men and women in Balochistan. Without toys Mushy's Army H&D will go in drain in front of rice eating, dark Yindoos.
Whatever Mushy came out Winner !!!
US media is not covering this episode, it means it was not from Uncle blessing.

Naresh · (This post was last modified: 07-07-2007, 10:13 PM by Naresh.)

QUOTE(Mudy @ Jul 7 2007, 08:49 PM)Nareshji,
Chini Sahab told Mia Mushy, we are not going to give you anymore toys for paint work in future till you don't release our spies and stop killing are men and women in Balochistan. Without toys Mushy's Army H&D will go in drain in front of rice eating, dark Yindoos.
Whatever Mushy came out Winner !!!

*US media is not covering this episode, it means it was not from Uncle blessing.
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Mudy Ji :

* : Indeed - as I have earlier stated it seems that UNCLE has been left out, not the position in the Soccer Field but, in the cold as this time around Mush has said Yes Sil - Light Away, Immediately Sil as I am youl obedient Selvant!

Meanwhile Mush the Tush is issuing threats to the Occupants of the Jamia Jafria(?) - the Male Madrassah where Abdul Rashid Ghazi, the deputy leader of Lal Masjid is in charge.

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BOLAN : President Pervez Musharraf on Saturday told Islamists at a besieged mosque in the capital to surrender or risk being killed, in his first public comments on the five-day standoff.

"They should not prolong, they should surrender and hand over their weapons, otherwise they risk being killed," Musharraf told reporters during a visit to the flood-hit southwestern province of Baluchistan.

"The government has enough power and no one can stand before its might. Our concern is for children and women and we are showing lot of patience and restraint," he added.

Hundreds of hardline students and dozens of militants have been holed up at the Red Mosque in Islamabad since Tuesday in a bloody confrontation that has left at least 19 people dead.

The government says dozens of women and children are still inside the mosque being used as human shields.

Musharraf said 1,300 people had already surrendered so the rest should now follow.

Military ruler Musharraf, a key US ally in the so-called war on terrorism, said the actions of the mosque's followers had embarrassed the Pakistani government abroad.

"They have defamed Islam, they have defamed Pakistan, and they have embarrassed Pakistan internationally," he added. <img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Flush.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='Flush.gif' />

His statement came hours after the cleric leading the resistance said he had received a call from an unidentified man who had allegedly tried to shoot Musharraf's plane on Friday in revenge for the crackdown.

Mudy Ji : Let us see how the cocoon spins!

Cheers <img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cheers.gif' />

07-08-2007, 12:09 AM

QUOTEMudy Ji : Let us see how the cocoon spins!
Mushy is in full control of Fondoos, problem may come from his own faujies.

07-08-2007, 12:16 AM

Nareshji,
this is from Paki fora
QUOTEJust a speculation on my part. Events as reported in the press like Moulana Aziz trying to sneak out, a group of militants now controlling the situation inside the mosque and not listening to Moulana Rasheed Ghazi whom I think would have followed Aziz, point to an important figure like Osama, Zuwahairi or some higher up in Al-Qaida hiding there.

I do not think that that the militant are the students. If they are they would have obeyed their mentors and spiritual leaders Aziz and Rasheed's suggestion to surrender. Students would have never fired on the parents when they went to Masjid to persuade their children to surrender. These must be Al-Qaida related militants. And this situation would have never reached the point where it is today.

Naresh · 07-08-2007, 04:58 PM

QUOTE(Mudy @ Jul 8 2007, 12:16 AM)Nareshji,
this is from Paki fora
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTEJust a speculation on my part. Events as reported in the press like Moulana Aziz trying to sneak out, a group of militants now controlling the situation inside the mosque and not listening to Moulana Rasheed Ghazi whom I think would have followed Aziz, point to an important figure like Osama, Zuwahairi or some higher up in Al-Qaida hiding there.

I do not think that that the militant are the students. If they are they would have obeyed their mentors and spiritual leaders Aziz and Rasheed's suggestion to surrender. Students would have never fired on the parents when they went to Masjid to persuade their children to surrender. These must be Al-Qaida related militants. And this situation would have never reached the point where it is today.
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Mudy Ji :

For one the Paki Forum Member seems to have got it nearly right.

The Paki Official take is a s follows :

Al-Qaeda-linked militants in Pakistan mosque: security officials ISLAMABAD, July 8, 2007 (AFP) <img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Flush.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='Flush.gif' /> - Islamic militants from a group linked to Al-Qaeda and to the murder of the journalist Daniel Pearl are believed to be leading hold-outs at a Islamabadâs Lal Masjid, security officials said Sunday. At least two commanders from the banned group Harkatul-Jihad-e-Islami, whose name means Movement of Islamic Holy War, are inside the besieged Mosque, the officials said on condition of anonymity. âWe believe there are militants from Harkatul-Jihad-e-Islami, which was involved in the Pearl murder. Based on intelligence we suspect that two commanders from the group are in there,â one senior official told AFP. âThey have taken control and they are putting up fierce resistance.âThe information was based on âinterceptsâ and other intelligence, the officials said, without naming the men. But the militants are thought to be giving orders to the hundreds of radical students in the mosque, they said. The government says women and children are being held as human shields, which the mosque's clerics deny. âOur forces are holding back as long as it is possible to avoid the deaths of women and children,â the security official said. (Posted @ 13:00 PST)

Comments : Man Mohan Singh, Patil et al. & Co. must realize that Pakistan is now Reaping the Whirlwind after having Sowed it with Pakistani Islamic Terrorism!

The only way for Pakistan to get rid of Pakistani Islamic Terrorism Internally is to stop complete support to the Terrorists Based in Pakistan and Carrying Terrorist Attacks in India China and the Rest of the world.

Cheers <img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cheers.gif' />

07-08-2007, 08:18 PM

I just can't believe, they say terrorist related to Pearl murder is hiding. I think they have already arrested more than 250 people, some are in death row. Paki Army is behaving like Indian Police, as they do after every terrorist attack, they blame Pakistan not Indian Islamist, now those Indian Islamist started acting outside India.

07-09-2007, 02:45 AM

on AAJ TV that President Musharraf has given the go ahead for the operation. All communication from inside Al Masjid has been blocked

07-09-2007, 02:47 AM

QUOTESuicide jackets distributed among Lal mosque militants 
ISLAMABAD: The suicide jackets have been distributed among the Lal Mosque militants and they could resort to suicide attacks, the reports said.

A foreign news agency quoting the security authorities said that a big action is likely to be taken against the militants holed up in Lal mosque.

Islamic militants from a group linked to Al-Qaeda and to the murder of Daniel Pearl are believed to be leading hold-outs at a Pakistani mosque, officials and a mosque source said.

At least two commanders from the banned group Harkatul-Jihad-e-Islami, whose name means Movement of Islamic Holy War, are inside the besieged Red Mosque in Islamabad, the officials said on condition of anonymity.

"We believe there are militants from Harkatul-Jihad-e-Islami, which was involved in the Pearl murder. Based on intelligence we suspect that two commanders from the group are in there," one senior official told a foreign newswire.

"They have taken control and they are putting up fierce resistance." The information was based on "intercepts" and other intelligence, the officials said, without naming the men.

07-09-2007, 02:53 AM

QUOTEMilitants have abundant arms 
FAZAL SHER
ISLAMABAD - Militants holding up in Lal Masjid are heavily equipped with arms and ammunition and thus endangering the lives of hundreds of students inside the mosque, said Interior Minister Aftab Ahmed Khan Sherpao while addressing a news conference here on Saturday.
He said that the operation against the miscreants inside the Lal Masjid could be completed in few hours but the government wanted to evacuate the innocent students who were taken as hostage.
âThe presence of large number of students inside the Lal Masjid has compelled the law enforcement agencies to show maximum restrain,â he said. He said Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz had also directed the law enforcement agencies in a meeting to end the operation as soon as possible but also to ensure minimum loss of human lives. 

Who is hiding? some big one.

07-09-2007, 02:54 AM

QUOTEGhazi says plane attack linked to siege
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ISLAMABAD (AFP) - Deputy head of Lal Masjid Abdul Rasheed Ghazi said a bid to shoot down President Musharrafâs plane was apparently in revenge for the bloody government siege of his mosque, in which he alleged that 70 students had died.
âI received a telephone call yesterday from a man I did not know,â who offered his âcongratulationsâ before news of Fridayâs attack on Musharrafâs aircraft became public, Ghazi told AFP by telephone.
âHe said, âI fired at Musharrafâs plane just a while ago.â He said that Musharraf survived,â said Ghazi.
Ghazi said the man asked him to tell the media about the incident, and that he replied, âI am inside, itâs better if you tell them yourself.â
âHe did not give me his name and hung up. Half an hour later I was told that the news had appeared in the media,â Ghazi added.
Ghazi said that forces had so far killed up to 30 female and 40 male students in the siege of the mosque. âWe buried the women because we did not want postmortems to be conducted as they are un-Islamic,â Ghazi said.

07-09-2007, 02:58 AM

Chinese workers shot in Pakistan QUOTEThree Chinese workers have been shot dead in the city of Peshawar in Pakistan's North West Frontier Province, police say.
A fourth Chinese worker was hurt in the attack at an auto-rickshaw factory.

"As they were coming out of their factory, they were ambushed," an official of the provincial government told Reuters news agency.

Several Chinese women were briefly held hostage recently at an Islamabad mosque now being besieged by security forces.


Nareshji,
Fondos are not happy with Chini.

07-09-2007, 07:33 AM

QUOTEâForeigners, SSP militants holed up insideâ 
ISLAMABAD: Eleven foreign militants, including a Chechen woman fighting the security forces, are among the 44-person Lal Masjid administration, authoritative sources told The News on Sunday.

âTwenty-one of them belong to the banned militant group, Sipah-e-Sahaba, and are wanted by the police for their involvement in various terrorist activities,â the sources maintained. They said that the militants had 30 Kalashnikov rifles, two LMGs, a rocket-launcher and hundreds of petrol bombs in stock. A Taliban leader, Jannat Gul, an Afghan national, had provided arms to the militants, the sources added.

Jannat Gul, Fidaullah Khan (in-charge Security), Khanzada (deputy in-charge security), Sher Khan, Abdul Sattar, Sanaullah, Saifullah, Imran Yousafzai, Muhammad Afzal Khan and Saifullah Khan are among those militants who are connected to the Taliban in Afghanistan, the sources said, adding, they all are wanted by the law-enforcement agencies in various terrorism cases.

The Lal Masjid administration includes Abdul Rashid Ghazi, 45, Majida Abdul Aziz alias Umme Hassan, the wife of Maulana Abdul Aziz, Humaira Ghazi, 40, the wife of Abdul Rashid Ghazi, Isma Dua, 16, alias Hamna Abdullah, the daughter of Maulana Abdul Aziz, Muhammad Hassan, 19, the son of Maulana Abdul Aziz, Muhammad Haroon, 16, the son of Abdul Rashid Ghazi, Riaz Qureshi, (in-charge transport department), Muhammad Manzoor, Abdul Qayyum, private secretary, and a confidant of Rashid Ghazi, Ghous Muhammad Baloch, Asad Hasan, Naseer Ahmad, Shahzad Shaikh, Abdul Rauf, Shabbir, Bilal Ahmad (Department Taviz), Muhammad Yousaf Khan, Mahmood Rehman, Tariq, Muhammad Sadiq, Abdul Rehman, Amna Nadeem, Dost Muhammad, Asiya, Yasmeen, Amna, Shaheen, Fiza, Maria and Khola, besdies 21 activists of the banned Sipaha-e-Sahaba Pakistan.

âTen Taliban militants have made about 150 innocent people hostage, while the Sipah-e-Sahaba people are assisting themâ, the security sources said, adding, âWe have strong evidence of the presence of 11 foreigners engaged in confronting the security forces but there is a likelihood that their number can be more than expected.â

07-09-2007, 07:35 AM

from Paki fora

QUOTEAn unknown aircraft is circling over LM/JH compound. Absolutely quiet. Ofcourse, we know that its a UAV but the reporters were quite stunned at first, as if its an alien spacecraft.

The aircraft, which previously completed 35 complete rounds of the compound, appeared to have gone away until now when it appeared over the skies again. It is flying at an altititude of appx. 1500-2000 meters.

Update: The aircraft appeared from the westernly direction at 2:40 am (PST) and has completed more than 60 rounds. As per the reporter, it is covering every possible angle of the compound .

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