Year 2012 -satya/dwapara Yuga

[acharya]

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2013 Maha Kumbh Mela will be held in January and February Allahabad (Prayag).Ê
Last Maha Kumbh held here was in 2001.

[acharya]

2012 (MMXII) will be a leap year starting on Sunday of the Gregorian calendar.

http://www.armageddononline.org/2012.php
Predicted and scheduled events

January

* January 23 - Chinese New Year and scheduled new moon. This time of year is associated with the Water-Dragon in Chinese astrology.
* January 31 - 433 Eros, the second largest Near Earth Object on record (size 13x13x33 km) is expected to pass Earth at 0.1790 astronomical units (1 AU – about 93 million miles – is the average distance from Earth to the sun). NASA studied Eros in the NEAR Shoemaker probe launched February 2000.

February

* February 5 - Super Bowl XLVI will be played.
* February 6 - If she is still on the throne, Elizabeth II will celebrate her Diamond Jubilee. A series of festivities across the United Kingdom and Commonwealth of Nations will likely run throughout the year.

March

* March 01 - Greek Drachma bank notes are exchangable for Euro until this time.
* March 19 - Buddha Claimant: Ram Bahadur Bomjon who disappeared in 2006 is believed to return on this date (six years from his departure)

April

* April 1 - The United States Census of 1940 is released to the public.
* April 15 - It will be the RMS Titanic`s 100 anniversary since the sinking in 1912.

May

* May 20 - Annular solar eclipse, a Sunday.
* May 20 - French Presidential election.

June

* June 6 - Second and last solar transit of the planet Venus of this century; the next pair is predicted to occur in 2117 and 2125 (see Transit of Venus, 2012).
* 2012 European Football Championship will be played in either Italy, Hungary/Croatia or Poland/Ukraine

July

* July 1 - The first possible government in Hong Kong elected by Universal suffrage take office.
* July 1 - Presidential Elections in Mexico
* July 27 - Opening ceremony of the 2012 Summer Olympics begins in London at 7:30 pm GMT/8:30pm BST. Source:London 2012 Website Countdown

August

* August 12 - Closing ceremony of the 2012 Summer Olympics in London, United Kingdom, a Sunday.
* August 29 - Start of the 2012 Summer Paralympics

September

* September 9 - Finish of the 2012 Summer Paralympics

October

* October 18 - at 20:36 (Eastern Daylight Time), the Earth will be home to 7 billion, according to the US Census Bureau.

November

* November 6 - United States presidential election, 2012
* November 6 - United States Senate elections, 2012
* November 6 - United States House of Representatives election, 2012
* November 13 - Total solar eclipse (visible in northern Australia and the South Pacific).

December

* December 3 - Jupiter oppositions
* December 21 - The Long Count calendar used by the Maya civilization of pre-Columbian Mesoamerica completes its thirteenth b'ak'tunb'ak'tun date of this starting point (13.0.0.0.0.0) is repeated, for the first time in a span of approximately 5,125 solar years. The significance of this period-ending to the pre-Columbian Maya themselves is unclear, and there is an incomplete inscription (Tortuguero Stela 6) which records this date. It is also to be found carved on the walls of the Temple of Inscriptions in Palenque, where it functions as a base date from which other dates are computed. However, it is conjectured that this may represent in the Maya belief system a transition from the current Creation world into the next. The December solstice for 2012 also occurs on this day. cycle since the calendar's mythical starting point (equivalent to 3114 BCE August 11 in the proleptic Gregorian calendar, according to the "GMT-correlation" JDN= 584283). The Long Count
* December 23 - The alternative date for the completion of the thirteenth b'ak'tun cycle in the Maya calendar, using a version of the GMT-correlation based on a JDN of 584285 (a.k.a. the "Lounsbury correlation"), which is supported by a smaller number of Mayanist researchers.
* December 31 - Expiration of the Kyoto Protocol

Unknown dates

* The Replacement Eastern Span of the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge will open to traffic, replacing the old Eastern canteliever span that was damaged in the Loma Prieta Earthquake in 1989, almost a quarter century (23 years) after the span was damaged.
* India's 11th Five-Year Plan (2007-2012) ends and the 12th one (2012-2017) starts.
* The United Kingdom plans to complete 5-year process to cease analogue television broadcasts region-by-region, with Meridian Broadcasting, ITV London, Tyne Tees Television and UTV being the last areas to switch off analogue.
* One of the Royal Navy's new aircraft carriers will enter service, possibly named HMS Queen Elizabeth.
* The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter project expected to be complete.
* This is the year when California's ban on the production of foie gras is scheduled to take effect.
* NASA's new Orion spacecraft is scheduled to become fully operational for International Space Station support flights.
* China plans to launch the Kuafu spacecraft
* Freedom Tower in New York City: Construction is scheduled to be finished by 2012 at the latest.
* Sight & Sound magazine will conduct its Top Ten Films of All-Time poll for the seventh decade since 1952.
* The Hallandsas Ridge Tunnel is set to be completed, only 17 years behind the original plan.

Major religious holidays

* February 1 - Imbolc, a Cross-quarter day (Celebrated on February 2 in some places).
* March 20 - Spring Equinox, also known as Ostara.
* May 1 - Beltane, a Cross-quarter day.
* June 20 - Summer Solstice, also known as Midsummer or Litha.
* August 1 - Lammas, a Cross-quarter day.
* September 21 - Fall Equinox, also known as Mabon.
* November 1 - Samhain, a Cross-quarter day and Neopagan new year.
* December 21 - Winter Solstice, also known as Yule.
* December 25 - Christmas (Celebrated on December 24 in some places).

Apocalyptic beliefs about 2012

2012 is someverdana claimed to be a year of spiritual transformation (or apocalypse). Many esoteric sources interpret the completion of the thirteenth B'ak'tun cycle in the Long Count of the Maya calendar (which occurs on December 21 by the most widely held correlation) to mean there will be a major change in world order, although there is a distinct lack of evidence from the extant records of the pre-Columbian Maya civilization that they themselves considered this occurrence in 2012 would signify end of the world.

Accordingly, several eclectic authors claim that a major, world-changing event will take place in 2012:

* The 1995 book The Mayan Prophecies linked the Maya calendar with long-period sunspot cycles.
* The book 2012:Mayan Year of Destiny claims the Maya may have been instructed in their wisdom by discarnate entities from Orion and the Pleiades. Contact was maintained through shamanic rituals conducted in accordance with the movements of planets and stars.
* The 1997 book The Bible Code claims that, according to certain algorithms of the Bible code, a meteor, asteroid or comet will collide with the Earth.
* The book The Nostradamus Code speaks of a series of natural disasters caused by a comet (possibly as above) which will allow the third anti-christ to disperse his troops around the globe under the guise of aid in preperation for a nuclear war.
* The book The Orion Prophecy claims that the Earth's magnetic field will reverse.

Other prophecies and apopolyptic writings and hypotheses for this year include:

* Terence McKenna's mathematical novelty theory predicts a point of singularity in which humankind will go through a great shift in consciousness.
* The Prophecy of the Popes, attributed to Saint Malachy, speculated that Pope Benedict XVI would reign during the beginning of the tribulation of which Jesus spoke, and sometime later a future pope described in the prophecy as "Peter the Roman", the last in this prophetic list, would appear, bringing as a result the destruction of the city of Rome and the Last Judgement.
* Many new age spiritualists and philosophers ("new-agers") believe humankind will enter an age of enlightenment in 2012. There are a range of varying, generally positive, beliefs shared by a subset of spiritualists from the mundane to exceptional -- including a positive social shift and age of peace, mankind becoming psychic and connected by a collective, and/or an evolution of the human race into non-corporeal beings made of "spiritual" energy, or light energy. An alternative view is that we are already thought-forms (see also idealism) and will be realizing our true selves in this year.
* Some alien-enthusiasts, along with some new-agers, believe 2012 to correspond approximately with the return of alien "watchers" or "caretakers" who might have helped the first human civilizations with developing their technology and may have been waiting for us to reach a higher level of technological and/or social advancement. Beliefs range from the extra-terrestrials having benevolent purposes -- such as to help human society evolve -- to malevolent purposes -- such as enslavement of mankind and/or manipulation.
* The ascetic Buddhist monk Ram Bahadur Bomjon reportedly told his followers that he will return around 2012.
* Some proponents of a peak oil catastrophe place major events in 2012. Richard C. Duncan's book The Peak of World Oil Production and the Road To The Olduvai Gorge claims that the Olduvai cliff will begin and permanent blackouts will occur worldwide. Several studies predict a peak in oil production in or around 2012.


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http://www.daanspeak.com/Maya01Eng.html

Maya predicted a long time ago:
The year 2012 will be a turning point
The Dutch in the original articlehas been translated into English by Marienella Meulensteen.

As fascinated as we are by the dark side of our earthly existence –DaanSpeak writes about it all the time– it did not occur to us before that many people are already preparing for the moment that the darkness subsides and the sun will shine again. The development of alternative ways to deal with nature, the truth advertisements in large American newspapers by Mike Ruppert and Tom Paine, biological food in the supermarkets, etc. The examples are of such diversity and so abundant that you can imagine them yourself. These days many people not only dream of happier times, but because they already see daybreak, they have quietly started to make preparations. All kinds of peoples of all kinds of cultural backgrounds have written about that daybreak and the period of night that precedes it through the years, and not only in the book of Revelations.

<b>2012 has been calculated by more peoples in different times</b>
All kinds of holy scriptures through the ages have heard the gong for the last round. The year 2012 is mentioned with striking frequency, like by the Pueblo-Indians, the Zulus and the Maya. the Maya made their predictions about the moment when the gong would sound on the basis of calculations that still hold nowadays. At the center of these are their calendars by which they calculated in periods of 26.000 years and larger. These periods evolved from their own calculation of time which seems to be superior in accuracy, also to our own calendar. In the documentary The Year Zero during a speech, a Maya cleverly points out one of the mistakes of our Western calendar to the audience. He says that if we would have calculated correctly according to the insight of the Maya, we would not have made mistakes in our own calendar count. The month of October (oct = 8) would now have been the eighth month, November (nov = 9) the ninth and December (dec = 10) the tenth. Here and there there's a plea to adopt the natural calendar of the Maya.

<b>2012 is the end of a period of 26.000 years</b>
The Maya were very accurate in their calculations and as a consequence could make very accurate predictions. They even were so specific that in this enormous cycle of 26.000 years they could pinpoint the exact day: December 21, 2012. This date marks the end of the large calendar and of the cycle of thirteen so-called baktuns after which the earth starts the ‘period of the fifth sun'. According to their calculations, which still are astronomically correct, our solar system will be in one line with Hunab K'u, the center of the Milky Way, the place the Maya call the mother womb. Maya expert Peter Toonen writes in the beginning of this year in magazine Frontier: 'At that time our Earth and the sun are in one line to each other in the center of the Milky Way, therefore with Hunab K'u, the source […]. Technically you can then get a sort of zero situation in the revolutions of the electromagnetic fields of our solar system. According to the traditions of the Hopi Indians, this will take three days; three days of emptiness and darkness. After that the magnetic poles can reverse. Who knows?' Whatever happens, the Maya calendar then will start over with the year zero. the Maya do not have a linear time calculation, but see time as overlapping circles.

<b>The five periods according to the Mayans</b>
December 21, 2012 is the beginning of a large new period of 26.000 years and a smaller period of 5200 years. The Guatemalan ‘Mayan Elders of the Eagle Clan' write: 'This is a cycle of wisdom, harmony, peace, love, of consciousness and the return of the natural order. It is not the end of the world as many from outside of the Mayan tradition have misinterpreted it to be. The first cycle (Ajaw/sun) was a feminine energy and its element was fire. The second cycle (Ajaw/sun) was of masculine energy, and its element was earth. The third cycle (Ajaw/sun) was a feminine energy and its element was air. The fourth cycle (Ajaw/sun) is a masculine energy and its element is water. The fifth cycle (Ajaw/sun) will be a fusion of both feminine and masculine energies. It will be a transition where there won't be any more confrontations between the polarities. It will bring balance and there won't be hierarchy of one over the other. Both energies will support each other. It is why this period is called one of harmony, the kingdom of love and the return of consciousness. Its element will be the ether.' No more room for 'dividers' like Bush or other polarizing types. No more room for Bush's refined, explosive and polluting oil; but room for the natural, imploding, clean ether-energy.

<b>The end of times is a new beginning</b>
The end of times does not mean that the earth explodes and disappears into a black hole, but that a long period will be ended and that on a higher level a next period is started. The bad thing is that this transformation, as so often with a large improvement, is preceded by a lot of misery. It is like the necessary struggle of the caterpillar to become a butterfly. The bible calls this turbulent period 'labor pains'. Just as expressively, the bible tells us that after this a period will start of a thousand years, in which 'tha satan' is chained; resulting in 'many many' years of peace. This whole situation reminds us of the Jesus-story, in which Jesus dies in a miserable way, rises from the dead and arrives at a higher level by ascending to heaven. 'This large time cycle has been thought since ancient times to represent a complete cycle of human spiritual advance', writes John Major Jenkins.

<b>Jenkins: Antichrist is an abstraction, a metaphor</b>
Jenkins is one of the leading Maya-experts. He has written many books on the Maya, their calendars and their predictions, not only based on existing literature, but also on personal investigation. Curious as we are to the answer to the question if the Maya have predicted an Antichrist and an Armageddon (a 'mother of all wars'), we mailed Jenkins. He answers: 'I ascribe to the perspectives offered by Traditionalist writers like René Guénon (Crisis of the Modern World, Reign of Quantity and the Signs of the Times). Traditional civilizations and cultures were contemplated upon having a clear channel to the transcendent Deity. This ideal culture had, as a main priority, the basic need of human beings to practice and experience spirituality. Today, the modern world has degenerated. Guénon bases this part of his writings on the Hindu Yuga philosophy of time, which states that for 1/2 of a Great Cycle humanity moves away from intimacy with the transcendent creator. This results in the terminal stage of the half-cycle, the end of the darkest age, Kali Yuga, when human beings are out of touch with their divine, true selves, and human institutions and leaders are the antithesis of anything that would support such a world. This is how I'd answer your Antichrist question. Current world systems and its leaders favour and pursue power rather than spiritual knowledge. Even our spiritual institutions are corrupt and out of touch, more interested in controlling the flock. Average people who accept the hierarchy of power dominance try to scale its ladder, as if they are ambitious and "players" in the "real world", but instead they are (often unwittingly) just pawns in the larger system of the Antichrist. [...]'.

<b>Jenkins: 2012 is like the gradual transition between night and day </b>
Jenkins sees the Antichrist therefore as an abstraction, like a system. Jenkins: 'When the half-cycle of downward degeneration reaches its maximum expression in the deepest realm of the Kali Yuga, we shift back to a movement toward the creator - there is a reversal or apocatastasis as it says in Plato's Timaeus. That shift is signalled, I believe by the alignment of the solstice sun with the galactic equator - the galactic alignment of era 2012. Around that time - not on the precise day as it seems to me to be a years-long process - the Antichrist system will no longer be supported by an orientation of humanity that faces away from the Creator. Things will have to change because it is ordained by the cycles of time (the "will of God" if we may say so. ) Fated, that is, in the same way that night inevitably turns into day, not because all is predetermined. As we approach the end of the cycle, predictable end-times dynamics appear as the archetype of the Antichrist emerges more fully into operation in the field of history. Witness George Bush.'

<b>Jenkins: Armageddon is also a metaphor</b>
Because of all hatred, misery and other negativity that Bush sows, and the wool that is herewith pulled over the eyes of the public –of which the majority still does not recognize him for who he is and what he stands for- Bush is a good signal for an Antichrist, whether it be in the form of a person or an abstraction. And how about the disaster scenarios of the bible for the last days? Jenkins: '[. . . ] in my opinion it doesn't help to understand the end-times dynamic by placing ones faith in arbitrary predictions about earthquakes and asteroids - those I believe are just metaphors for the widely felt serious of the situation and for a drastic transformation that is required when we abandon all the illusions we've been sold by the Antichrist system. Illusions of a materialistic consciousness that worships "things" and quashes true spirituality whenever it tries to survive (witness Native American decimation). [...]'.

<b>Barrios: Big changes around 2012</b>
Jenkins points DaanSpeak to a website of the Organization for Mayan and Indigenous Studies. Between all that is offered, we find an article, in which a certain Carlos Barrios is being interviewed. 'Mr. Barrios is a historian, an anthropologist and investigator. After studying with traditional elders for 25 years since the age of 19, he has also became a Mayan Ajq'ij, a ceremonial priest and spiritual guide, Eagle Clan.' Let us first see what Barrios has to say about the period to 2012: 'We are no longer in the World of the Fourth Sun, but we are not yet in the World of the Fifth Sun. This is the time in-between, the time of transition. As we pass through transition there is a colossal, global convergence of environmental destruction, social chaos, war, and ongoing Earth changes. All this, Mr. Barrios says, was foreseen via the simple, spiral mathematics of the Mayan calendars. "It will change," Mr. Barrios observes. "Everything will change. " He said Mayan Day-keepers view the Dec. 21, 2012 date as a rebirth, the start of the World of the Fifth Sun. It will be the start of a new era resulting from and signified by the solar meridian crossing the galactic equator, and the earth aligning itself with the center of the galaxy'.

<b>Barrios: Just now the dark side is very strong</b>
'At sunrise on December 21, 2012 for the first time in 26,000 years the Sun rises to conjunct the intersection of the Milky Way and the plane of the ecliptic. This cosmic cross is considered to be an embodiment of the Sacred Tree, The Tree of Life a tree remembered in all the world's spiritual traditions. Some observers say this alignment with the heart of the galaxy in 2012 will open a channel for cosmic energy to flow through the earth, cleansing it and all that dwells upon it, raising it all to a higher level of vibration. This process has already begun, Mr. Barrios suggested. "Change is accelerating now, and it will continue to accelerate. " If the people of the earth can get to this 2012 date in good shape, without having destroyed too much of the Earth, Mr. Barrios said, we will rise to a new, higher level. But to get there we must transform enormously powerful forces that seek to block the way.' Barrios does not talk about Bush and his henchmen, but talks more like George Lucas would about his Star Wars-series, about good and evil forces: 'Just now the dark side is very strong, and very clear about what they want. They have their vision and their priorities clearly held, and also their hierarchy. They are working in many ways so that we will be unable to connect with the spiral Fifth World in 2012."

<b>Tactic to conquer the Dark Side</b>
'As Mr. Barrios sees it, the dark side works to block fusion [between quarrelling optimists] through denial and materialism. It also works to destroy those who are working with the light to get the Earth to a higher level. They like the energy of the old, declining Fourth World, the materialism. They do not want it to change. They do not want fusion. They want to stay at this level, and are afraid of the next level. The dark power of the declining Fourth World cannot be destroyed or overpowered. It's too strong and clear for that, and that is the wrong strategy. The dark can only be transformed when confronted with simplicity and open-heartedness. This is what leads to fusion, a key concept for the World of the Fifth Sun.'

<b>The art of fighting without a fight</b>
We agree with Barrios that the Dark Side cannot be destroyed or overpowered. A fight on their conditions of hatred and violence is lost in advance; the citizens are not prepared for such superiority in military en police power. However, emancipation and development have more often produced strong revolutions. In our opinion, it is best to fight without fighting and therefore not to enter their arena; the art of fighting without a fight. Step out of the arena, and see how the boxers beat each other up in their primitive ways and develop alternatives.

<b>Big changes are necessary</b>
The other side cannot be beaten, but has to be convinced to stop the destruction and the negativity. It is not really the intention to take the Dark Side out, that would go too far, but their deeds have to go from +1 to 0. The positivism of the one party then gets the upper hand, so that all together we can safely reach the other side. Now, a few empty-headed hooligans ruin it for the large group and that has to change. Carlos Barrios: 'We are living in the most important era of the Mayan calendars and prophecies. All the prophecies of the world, all the traditions, are converging now. There is no time for games. The spiritual ideal of this era is action'.

<b>Bush is the right man in the right place</b>
Death and destruction are an essential part of life. Without death there is no life, without dying cells between what later will become the fingers of a hand, a fetus will not have a hand. But if the negative side takes over, things go wrong. Empty-headed hooligans, who sponge on others like pirates, disturb the balance. Bush is the example incarnate: a rattle-brain, a hooligan, a pirate sailing under the pirate flag of his secret Skull & Bones society, who sponges on the hard work of his less fortunate countrymen. He is the ultimate icon of 'the dark side' and is there for a reason, he is the right man in the right place. He has an essential function in our lives, just like death. But if Bush is not careful, and he surely will not be, he and his friends Blair, Balkenende en Sharon will destroy more than what is good for us. Before long, with the second cabinet W-Bush in the White House, you can sit back and wait for the fascist effects of the draconic post-911-laws, an enlargement of the gap between rich and poor, the possible conquest of Iran and Syria to dump the Palestinians there who do not accept that, where after war and terror will exist again, etc. The mentioned prediction about the Palestinians is also the opinion of author John Stanton in his article 'Bush's Operation Clean Sweep: World War IV in 2004?'

<b>War is peace</b>
It is time that it becomes clear that the lifelong war against terror has been called with war being the goal, not peace. Peace is the last thing a leader wants. In peace time people become emancipated and they start to make demands. Peace makes people independent and uncontrollable. It is the nightmare of world leaders. What is needed is a joint enemy that moulds the people into unity, like one man behind the leader. Communism was a good enemy: visible, numerous and strong. But the best imaginable enemy is the invisible enemy: the terrorist who could really be anywhere and therefore eventually will be controlled by the most effective police imaginable, self-censorship. Self-censorship in the media, but also in the citizen, who will repress his own needs for development, only not to give terrorists any chances. Therefore, more severe laws are no problem for this citizen, stronger, he insists on them. Criticizing, or colouring outside of the (self) indicated lines is out of the question, 'we are for, not against'. We opt for the fear and feel free within the walls that we raise. Freedom through constraint. Peace through war. Communism was good, terrorism is unsurpassed.

<b>Period until 2012 is the time of the big cleanup;
how and what is not determined</b>
The period until 2012 is seen by the Maya as a time of cleaning and abolishment. The purpose is to rid ourselves of all icons of the 'dark side'. The dark side, as well as the other side, wants to establish a new era. The question is if we survive the last struggle and who, after the dust clears, will be the winner. Barrios: 'Our planet can be renewed or ravaged. Now is the time to awaken and take action. "Despite the threatening wordings of some Maya-texts, Nostradamus and the bible, the future is not determined. That is stated by those Mayas, the incomprehensible Nostradamus and others. All ingredients are present to make it fail, but all together we can also make it work well. It is important that many are going to realize that, and that their new attitude affects the other party. It is possible to turn things around; it does not really have to fail. The website SacredRoad writes to DaanSpeak: 'Through their understanding of the Najt, or spiral of space-time, the Mayan priests and elders are able to predict with great accuracy future events. But they offer these prophecies as a warning and repeat that they are not etched in stone. Rather, we have the capacity to alter the spiral, thus specific outcomes are not certain. That is why they are calling on humanity at this time to work towards creating greater harmony and unity. They believe through this process we may be able to subvert some of the cataclysm that may be associated with this period of transition.'

<b>Toonen: Changes from below</b>
Maya expert and author Peter Toonen states to DaanSpeak over the phone: 'These times are our chance to straighten things out. If we don't grab the chance, things can go badly wrong.' That the result of this ‘final struggle between light and dark' is unsure, depends according to Toonen on the free will that we have as human beings, only certain parameters are set. In the period until 2012 he sees multiple scenarios become reality at the same time, positive as well as negative ones. Some will wager positively, others negatively. But even the negative can work in a positive way: 'George Bush can convince people in a negative way that it cannot go on like this. Just look at the massive peace demonstrations.' Toonen says what DaanSpeak has been thinking for years: 'The positive changes will come from below. Don't expect much from governments, they only react after the fact.' That also became clear on December 4 from the Zembla-report (RealPlayer) Haagse Herrie, which disclosed more or less that our Dutch parliament is reacting to the whims of the day, wants to score in the media by enacting laws, which are retracted later on because they are superfluous or go too far. What does work is preservation, but you don't score with that as a member of the Chamber. If you really want to know how our country functions politically, discover in this very good NRC-article (Word) by Gerard van Westerloo that the Netherlands is being governed by an oligarchy.

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http://www.wweek.com/editorial/3327/8975/

[ramana]

Looks like the Mayans were not as uncivilized as depicted by Mel Gibson's attempt in Apocalypso after all!

[ramana]

Costco has a book called "1491: Revelations of America before Columbus" a description of pre-Columbine America. Quite a good book.


Amazon Review

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There was an article in BR which I found very interesting. It was in the psy-ops section. Something to do with the Chinese wanting to establish/re-establish their buddhist credentials.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Buddhis...how/2137491.cms

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>China has been the entrenched Buddhist power in Asia</b>, and even the Communist revolution failed to dislodge it from its perch of being <b>the arbiter of Buddhism</b>.

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Beijing hoped the physical control of Tibet would enhance its stature, which is why the Dalai Lama's presence in India is such a sore point.

In fact, it is <b>Beijing's unfinished Buddhist agenda</b> that is behind its loud claims to Arunachal Pradesh. Needless to add, it's for exactly the same reason that India cannot give up its claim on the state.

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In East Asia, <b>China's Buddhist pre-eminence</b> resulted in India being regarded as an interloper. India was anyway a latecomer to the south-east Asian region, and burdened with the legacy of British imperialism, the reigning impression of Indians was of "coolies", quite apart from the Chinese elite.
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In my mind this immidiately connected with this that I had read

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The great conqueror, Kalki then paid homage to his father and started for conquering  <i>Kikatpur</i> with his army. The <b>Buddhists</b> live in that city. The residents of that city do not worship God or their forefathers. They do not fear after-life. Other than the body, they do not believe in any soul. They do not have any pride in their lineage or in their race; money, marriage etc. are insignificant to them. People of that place eat and drink a variety of things. When <b>Jin</b> (the leader) heard that Kalki has come to fight them, he gathered a huge army and went out of the city to fight Him.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

~ <i>Kalki Purana, II[6], Verses 40 to 44
</i>
It says they are Buddhists yet do not worship any God, nor fear after-life, eat and drink a variety of things seems like apt description of our friends from China. One has to wait and see whether it is fact, fiction or accurate prophecy. According to Hindu beliefs, it is only after Kalki has cleansed the society that Satya Yuga is firmly established.

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From a dialogue between mahaRshi mArkanDeya and mahArAja yudhiSThira, recorded in vana parva of mahAbhArata. Translation of Sri Kesari Mohan Ganguly.

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And Markandeya said, 'Listen, O monarch, to all that hath been seen and
heard by me, and to all, O king of kings, that hath been known to me by
intuition from the grace of the God of gods! O bull of the Bharata race,
listen to me as I narrate the future history of the world during the
sinful age.

O bull of the Bharata race, in the Krita age, everything was
free from deceit and guile and avarice and covetousness; and morality
like a bull was among men, with all the four legs complete. In the Treta
age sin took away one of these legs and morality had three legs. In the
Dwapara, sin and morality are mixed half and half; and accordingly
morality is said to have two legs only. In the dark age (of Kali), O thou
best of the Bharata race, morality mixed with three parts of sin liveth
by the side of men. Accordingly morality then is said to wait on men,
with only a fourth part of itself remaining. Know, O Yudhishthira, that
the period of life, the energy, intellect and the physical strength of
men decrease in every Yuga!

O Pandava, the Brahmanas and Kshatriyas and
Vaisyas and Sudras, (in the Kali age) will practise morality and virtue
deceitfully and men in general will deceive their fellows by spreading
the net of virtue. And men with false reputation of learning will, by
their acts, cause Truth to be contracted and concealed. And in
consequence of the shortness of their lives they will not be able to
acquire much knowledge. And in consequence of the littleness of their
knowledge, they will have no wisdom. And for this, covetousness and
avarice will overwhelm them all. And wedded to avarice and wrath and
ignorance and lust men will entertain animosities towards one another,
desiring to take one another's lives.

And Brahmanas and Kshatriyas and Vaisyas with their
virtue contracted and divested of asceticism and truth
will all be reduced to an equality with the Sudras. And the lowest orders
of men will rise to the position of the intermediate ones, and those in
intermediate stations will, without doubt, descend to the level of the
lowest ones. Even such, O Yudhishthira, will become the state of the
world at the end of the Yuga. Of robes those will be regarded the best
that are made of flax and of grain the Kora-dushakas will be regarded the best. Towards this period men will regard their wives as their (only) friends.

And men will live on fish and milk, goats and
sheep, for <b>cows will be extinct</b>. And towards that period, even they that are always observant of vows, will become covetous.

And opposed to one another, men will, at such a time, seek one another's lives;
and divested of Yuga, people will become atheists and thieves. And they will even
dig the banks of streams with their spades and sow grains thereon. And even
those places will prove barren for them at such a time. And those men who
are devoted to ceremonial rites in honour of the deceased and of the
gods, will be avaricious and will also appropriate and enjoy what belongs
to others. The father will enjoy what belongs to the son; and the son,
what belongs to the father. And those things will also be enjoyed by men
in such times, the enjoyment of which hath been forbidden in the
scriptures. And the Brahmanas, speaking disrespectfully of the Vedas,
will not practise vows, and their understanding clouded by the science of
disputation, they will no longer perform sacrifices and the Homa. And
deceived by the false science of reasons, they will direct their hearts
towards everything mean and low. And men will till low lands for
cultivation and employ cows and calves that are one year old, in drawing
the plough and carrying burthens. And sons having slain their sires, and
sires having slain their sons will incur no opprobrium. And they will
frequently save themselves from anxiety by such deeds, and even glory in
them. And the whole world will be filled with mleccha behaviour and
notions and ceremonies, and sacrifices will cease and joy will be nowhere
and general rejoicing will disappear. And men will rob the possession of
helpless persons of those that are friendless and of wisdoms also. And,
possessed of small energy and strength, without knowledge and given to
avarice and folly and sinful practices men will accept with joy the gifts
made by wicked people with words of contempt. And, O son of Kunti, the
kings of the earth, with hearts wedded to sin without knowledge and
always boastful of their wisdom, will challenge one another from desire
of taking one another's life.

And the Kshatriyas also towards the end of
such a period will become the thorns of the earth. And filled with
avarice and swelling with pride and vanity and, unable and unwilling to
protect (their subjects), they will take pleasure in inflicting
punishments only. And attacking and repeating their attacks upon the good
and the honest, and feeling no pity for the latter, even when they will
cry in grief, the Kshatriyas will, O Bharata, rob these of their wives
and wealth. And no one will ask for a girl (for purposes of marriage) and
no one will give away a girl (for such purposes), but the girls will
themselves choose their lords, when the end of the Yuga comes. And the
kings of the earth with souls steeped in ignorance, and discontented with
what they have, will at such a time, rob their subjects by every means in
their power. And without doubt the whole world will be mlecchified. <b>(mlecchibhutam is the word in the original text!!!)</b>

And when the end of the Yuga comes, the right hand will deceive the left;
and the left, the right. And men with false reputation of learning will
contract Truth and the old will betray the senselessness of the young,
and the young will betray the dotage of the old. And cowards will have
the reputation of bravery and the brave will be cheerless like cowards.
And towards the end of the Yuga men will cease to trust one another. And
full of avarice and folly the whole world will have but one kind of food.
And sin will increase and prosper, while virtue will fade and cease to
flourish. And Brahmanas and Kshatriyas and Vaisyas will disappear,
leaving, O king, no remnants of their orders. And all men towards the end
of the Yuga will become members of one common order, without distinction
of any kind. And sires will not forgive sons, and sons will not forgive
sires. And when the end approaches, wives will not wait upon and serve
their husbands.

And at such a time men will seek those countries where
wheat and barley form the staple food. And, O monarch, both men and women will become perfectly free in their behaviour and will not tolerate one
another's acts. And, O Yudhishthira, the whole world will be mlecchified.
And men will cease to gratify the gods by offerings of Sraddhas. And no
one will listen to the words of others and no one will be regarded as a
preceptor by another. And, O ruler of men, intellectual darkness will
envelop the whole earth, and the life of man will then be measured by
sixteen years, on attaining to which age death will ensue. And girls of
five or six years of age will bring forth children and boys of seven or
eight years of age will become fathers. And, O tiger among kings, when
the end of the Yuga will come, the wife will never be content with her
husband, nor the husband with his wife. And the possessions of men will
never be much, and people will falsely bear the marks of religion, and
jealousy and malice will fill the world. And no one will, at that time,
be a giver (of wealth or anything else) in respect to any one else. And
the inhabited regions of the earth will be afflicted with dearth and
famine, and the highways will be filled with lustful men and women of
evil repute. And, at such a time, the women will also entertain an
aversion towards their husbands.

And without doubt all men will adopt the behaviour of the mlecchas, become omnivorous without distinction, and cruel in all their acts, when the end of the Yuga will come.

And, O thou foremost of the Bharatas, urged by avarice, men will, at that time,
deceive one another when they sell and purchase. And without a knowledge
of the ordinance, men will perform ceremonies and rites, and, indeed,
behave as listeth them, when the end of the Yuga comes. And when the end
of the Yuga comes, urged by their very dispositions, men will act
cruelly, and speak ill of one another. And people will, without
compunction, destroy trees and gardens. And men will be filled with
anxiety as regards the means of living. And, O king, overwhelmed with
covetousness, men will kill Brahmanas and appropriate and enjoy the
possessions of their victims. And the regenerate ones, oppressed by
Sudras, and afflicted with fear, and crying Oh and Alas, will wander over
the earth without anybody to protect them. And when men will begin to
slay one another, and become wicked and fierce and without any respect
for animal life, then will the Yuga come to an end. And, O king, even the
foremost of the regenerate ones, afflicted by robbers, will, like crows,
fly in terror and with speed, and seek refuge, O perpetuator of the Kuru
race, in rivers and mountains and inaccessible regions. And always
oppressed by bad rulers with burthens of taxes, the foremost of the
regenerate classes, O lord of the earth, will, in those terrible times,
take leave of all patience and do improper acts by becoming even the
servants of the Sudras. And Sudras will expound the scriptures, and
Brahmanas will wait upon and listen to them, and settle their course of
duty accepting such interpretations as their guides. And the low will
become the high, and the course of things will look contrary.

And renouncing the gods, men will worship bones and other relics deposited
within walls. And, at the end of the Yuga, the Sudras will cease to wait
upon and serve the Brahmanas. And in the asylums of great Rishis, and the
teaching institutions of Brahmanas, and in places sacred to the gods and
sacrificial compounds, and in sacred tanks, the earth will be disfigured
with tombs and pillars containing bony relics and not graced with temples
dedicated to the gods. All this will take place at the end of the Yuga,
and know that these are the signs of the end of the Yuga. And when men
become fierce and destitute of virtue and carnivorous and addicted to
intoxicating drinks, then doth the Yuga come to an end. And, O monarch,
when flowers will be begot within flowers, and fruits within fruits, then
will the Yuga come to an end. And the clouds will pour rain unseasonably
when the end of the Yuga approaches. And, at that time, ceremonial rites
of men will not follow one another in due order, and the Sudras will
quarrel with the Brahmanas. And the earth will soon be full of mlecchas,
and the Brahmanas will fly in all directions for fear of the burthen of
taxes. And all distinctions between men will cease as regards conduct and
behaviour, and afflicted with honorary tasks and offices, people will fly
to woody retreats, subsisting on fruits and roots. And the world will be
so afflicted, that rectitude of conduct will cease to be exhibited
anywhere. And disciples will set at naught the instructions of
preceptors, and seek even to injure them. And preceptors impoverished
will be disregarded by men. And friends and relatives and kinsmen will
perform friendly offices for the sake of the wealth only that is
possessed by a person. And when the end of the Yuga comes, everybody will
be in want.

And all the points of the horizon will be ablaze, and the
stars and stellar groups will be destitute of brilliancy, and the planets
and planetary conjunctions will be inauspicious. And the course of the
winds will be confused and agitated, and innumerable meteors will flash
through the sky, foreboding evil. And the Sun will appear with six others
of the same kind. And all around there will be din and uproar, and
everywhere there will be conflagrations. And the Sun, from the hour of
his rising to that of setting, will be enveloped by Rahu. And the deity
of a thousand eyes will shower rain unseasonably. And when the end of the
Yuga comes, crops will not grow in abundance. And the women will always
be sharp in speech and pitiless and fond of weeping. And they will never
abide by the commands of their husbands. And when the end of the Yuga
comes, sons will slay fathers and mothers. And women, living
uncontrolled, will slay their husbands and sons. And, O king, when the
end of the Yuga comes, Rahu will swallow the Sun unseasonably. And fires
will blaze up on all sides. And travellers unable to obtain food and
drink and shelter even when they ask for these, will lie down on the
wayside refraining from urging their solicitations. And when the end of
the Yuga comes, crows and snakes and vultures and kites and other animals
and birds will utter frightful and dissonant cries. And when the end of
the Yuga comes, men will cast away and neglect their friends and
relatives and attendants.

And, O monarch, when the end of the Yuga comes,
men abandoning the countries and directions and towns and cities of their
occupation, will seek for new ones, one after another. And people will
wander over the earth, uttering, 'O father, O son', and such other
frightful and rending cries.

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"And when those terrible times will be over, the creation will begin
anew. And men will again be created and distributed into the four orders
beginning with Brahmanas. And about that time, in order that men may
increase, Providence, according to its pleasure, will once more become
propitious. And then when the Sun, the Moon, and Vrihaspati will, with
the constellation Pushya[47], enter the same sign, the Krita age will
begin again. And the clouds will commence to shower seasonably, and the
stars and stellar conjunctions will become auspicious. And the planets,
duly revolving in their orbits, will become exceedingly propitious. And
all around, there will be prosperity and abundance and health and peace.

And commissioned by Kala, a Brahmana of the name of Kalki will take his
birth. And he will glorify Vishnu and possess great energy, great
intelligence, and great prowess. And he will take his birth in a town of
the name of Sambhala in an auspicious Brahmana family.

And vehicles and weapons, and warriors and arms, and coats of mail will be at his disposal as soon as he will think of them. And he will be the king of kings, and
ever victorious with the strength of virtue. And he will restore order
and peace in this world crowded with creatures and contradictory in its
course. And that blazing Brahmana of mighty intellect, having appeared,
will destroy all things. And he will be the Destroyer of all, and will
inaugurate a new Yuga. And surrounded by the Brahmanas, that Brahmana
will exterminate all the mlecchas wherever those low and despicable
persons may take refuge."

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Saturday, 07/07/07
<span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>As Mayan 'Year Zero' nears, it inspires talk of spiritual rebirth</span>

By RAY WADDLE

Opinion

Humanity is weary. Science is poisoning us, religion dividing us. Earth yearns for transformation. Does the world float closer toward chaos — or toward the Mayan moment?

More than a thousand years ago, the Maya people of Central America charted a 5,126-year calendar and, after gazing skyward and doing the math, saw fit to end it abruptly in 2012, a termination point of the current world cycle.


They didn't know we'd become a civilization of software, world war and Paris Hilton, but they reckoned the world by now would be ready for a fresh start, a spiritual facelift, Year Zero. It's
hard to blame them for thinking so.

And so, five years out from the big date (around Dec. 21, 2012), anticipation grows for the latest dream of a New Age a-coming. (See The New York Times article last Sunday, which notes books like 2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl by Daniel Pinchbeck and Maya Cosmogenesis 2012: The True Meaning of the Maya Calendar End Date by John Major Jenkins.)

The date coincides with a rare alignment of the sun and the Milky Way's midsection. It happens every 26,000 years. It's hard to know how Mayan stargazers of 900 A.D. could predict this astronomic convergence — if they did so, or cared. Amateurs and experts debate arcane details of calendar accuracies and Mayan intentions. But supporters ascribe hugely mysterious ramifications for human life to 2012. Many cast it as a benign earthly rendezvous with eternity, a grinding halt to negative human impulses, the reconciliation of opposites, an outbreak of peace.

'Convergence' redux

These phrases echo the "Harmonic Convergence" of 20 years ago, which marked a 25-year countdown to 2012. This New Age peace initiative was lampooned as naive and weightless (the "moronic convergence"), but it enlivened a collective dream of alternative spirituality that persists in today's millennial climate of terrorism and ecological anxiety.

Surely the longing for Maya-minded renewal suggests a deficit of big visions in post-Y2K life. Marxism lost credibility after the Soviet disaster. Biblical Armageddon, after so many false claims, goes on holiday. We're left with globalization, anti-globalization and a passion for text-messaging. Religions thrive and agitate, but they send contradictory signals: They enlarge horizons of global compassion … and give people reason for tribal hatreds.

Are the Maya saviors? Scholarly argument says these Mesoamerica ancients would regard 2012 as a celebratory moment, not a stagy endtime intersection.

And New Age vibes, accelerated evolution, sudden leaps from the third dimension to the fifth – these 2012 phrases sound both too vague and too technical for overhauling the human condition.

But lacking other news, other coordinates, the connoisseurs of 2012 are daring to dream ambitious dreams of reconciliation, maybe because no one else will.

http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/articl...70329/1023/NEWS

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Anyone with subscription to New York Times articles, can kindly post this article ?

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.htm...DAE0894DF404482

<b>The Final Days</b>

July 1, 2007, Sunday
By BENJAMIN ANASTAS (NYT); Magazine
Late Edition - Final, Section 6, Page 48, Column , 4992 words

DISPLAYING ABSTRACT - Steven from Arizona -- a caller on ''Coast to Coast AM'' late one night in February -- had slipped into a future reality and caught a glimpse of the devastation that was coming when the supervolcano under Yellowstone erupted. James in Omaha, on the other hand, was worried about ...

... 2012” — billed as “a scientific investigation into civilization’s end” — and he came on the air to tell the story of how the ancient Maya looked into ...

[ramana]

Forbidden Archaeology

and sequel

Vedic alternative to Evolution

Vedic Cosmology


Graham Hancock

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With the type of constant publicity this 2012 phenomenon is getting in US, i have a nagging feeling that the foggy-bottom, cfr, NWO-walla types are working up a lather of doubt in the minds of people and will encash this opportunity of doubt in people's minds to do some mischief. Anyhow read on ...
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20070...TURES/708140597
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->'It's like a big lightbulb switches on'
As the 20-year anniversary of the Harmonic Convergence approaches, adherents hope the populace is focused on the year 2012.

BY BILLY COX



In the late Cold War era, before the dawn of the World Wide Web, the Harmonic Convergence generated sociological magnetic fields from Stonehenge to Myakka River State Park.

On Aug. 16-17, 1987, across mountaintops, seashores and flatlands, untold numbers of Earthlings found themselves drawn like iron filings to pray, dance, meditate, sing and emit good vibes to promote global harmony.

The catalyst was a New Age author named Jose Arguelles, whose ruminations on American Indian cosmology became a bestseller in "The Mayan Factor."

Within a few years, seismic shifts were recorded. The Iran-Iraq war ended. The Russian army withdrew from Afghanistan. Apartheid disintegrated in South Africa. The Berlin Wall fell. The Soviet Union collapsed.

Even the cynics who dismissed the event as the "moronic convergence" were caught flat-footed by these rapid realignments of power.

So what happened to all those high hopes?

Nearly six years after suicide jetliners brought down the World Trade Center, two wars are leeching blood, treasure and stature from the United States; terrorism fueled by religious fundamentalism is accelerating; Russia is reverting to authoritarian rule and polar icecaps are contracting beneath runaway greenhouse gases.

"We saw the light then, but there was also the other side," says Zan Benham, of Sarasota. "Dark pushes the light. It's kind of like a wound; before it can heal, it has to come to the fore. Before the Earth can be restored, the clutter has to be cleaned out first."

Benham, a certified hypnotherapist, counselor and Reiki master, is undeterred by the grim headlines now splattering across the news. As the 20-year anniversary of the Harmonic Convergence approaches, she and half a dozen like-minded optimists have converged once more to contemplate what they insist was a glimpse of the future.

The venue is the home of artist Jo Mooy. She publishes an online, metaphysical newsletter called "StarSoundings Journal," which offers periodic updates on local, esoteric goings-on (new moon meditations, healing classes), celestial conjunctions (meteor showers, lunar eclipses) and testimonials about how the universe responds proportionately to appeals for guidance.

One of her colorful silk Mandalas -- a sacred circle in Sanskrit -- is draped over the living room TV screen like a funeral shroud. Mooy enjoys watching the occasional documentary on the tube, but is wary of the medium's potential for distraction.

"I just don't want that big box coming into the house," she says. "To me, it's just an electronical device."

Today's agenda is not merely the Harmonic Convergence, but its larger context -- the ancient Maya calendar, and its imminent conclusion, on or about Dec. 21, 2012. The onset of 2012 is spawning a cottage industry of books and forecasts, from transcendence to meltdowns reminiscent of the Y2K buzz.

<b>In a recent edition of The New York Times, Arguelles predicted "the post-2012 world will be a world of universal telepathy."</b> In "Apocalypse 2012," Lawrence E. Joseph outlines the collapse of civilization beneath the weight of war, superstorms, and other natural disasters. John Major Jenkins, author of "Maya Cosmogenesis 2012: The True Meaning of the Maya Calendar End Date" anticipates "transformation and renewal."

Fueling the debate are the Maya "world age cycles." These are a complex but elegant series of repetitive, nonlinear stanzas of time calculated during the supremacy of a civilization whose own cities had been emptied, as if by plague, when Spanish conquistadors marched through them in the 16th century. The current Maya world age cycle, calculated to have begun in 3114 B.C., will have run its 5,126-year course five years from now.

The pre-Columbian mathematicians were silent on the ramifications, but at Mooy's place, the gathered prefer to accent the positive.

Norma Martin -- like Benham, a Reiki healer -- says the Harmonic Convergence was simply the most publicized aspect of the 25-year countdown to the end of the world age cycle.

For instance, on Jan. 11, 1992, at 11:11 a.m., Martin invited the public to wear white and hook up at a sacred dance circle in east Sarasota. It was called the 11:11 Planetary Activation, an event designed "to bring us into higher dimensional consciousness," according to Martin, and expedite telepathic communication.

"Oh, it went on for a long time," says Martin, adding that more than 100 people showed up. "Some stayed until midnight. I never expected such a turnout."

The doorway for accessing that energy, according to proponents at www.nvisible.com, will close on Nov. 11, 2011. But even more opportunities may present themselves between now and then.

On July 17, United Church of Sarasota hosted an hour-long "Fire the Grid" communion, part of a coordinated, worldwide effort to foster planetary healing by plugging into meditative energy nodes.

<b>"The Earth has a grid system that looks like a huge spider web stretched across lay lines, or energy lines," says Unity co-pastor Dorothy Ann Jackson. "This energy has a vibration, and vibration has a frequency. In your mind, you send out a signal and draw everything that's on that particular frequency.</b>

"Whenever huge groups of people come together, you can put out a positive wave of vibration that reaches a peak. There's a plateau, then an ebb, and then another flow. What you think is projected out there."

Mooy's guests are in harmony about this point, too: Sarasota is a key vector on that grid. Maybe it has something to do with the quartz crystal sand at Siesta Key. It is where they often go to meditate.

"Crystals are transmitters as well as receivers," says Rose Lettiere, a Sarasota feng shui consultant. "They hold thought, they form energy, they talk. They feed us what we feed it. And when we have a collection of like-minded souls or beings gathered for the same purpose, it's like a big lightbulb switches on."

In fact, Mooy says Dec. 21, 2012, is not so much a date as a consciousness whose arrival will be as smooth or as rocky as individual preparations for it. Despite the apparent chaos in the world, she says the conditions for uniting its inhabitants behind a turnaround are considerably better than in 1987.

"New technology has become available, and that's the Internet," Mooy says. "People found out about the Harmonic Convergence through flyers and word of mouth. We are much more connected today through technology.

"We are the vanguard of that new human that we will become."


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[ramana]

Raju, Somewhere you had posted a picture of how Indians could have used the trade winds and the ocean currents to travel to South America? Could you post it again here?
Thanks, ramana

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<img src='http://www.hinduwisdom.info/images/ancient_route_South_America.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
<i>The ancient sea routes from India to South America following the ocean current</i>

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<i>The map below-left shows Mt. Meru with petals pointing in four directions. The left petal points toward a distant land called Ketumal or Chetumal. <b>In order to reach that land, they had to go eastward in order to avoid sailing around the tip of Africa</b>.</i>

The Mayans said that the land of their forefathers lay 150 days westward.
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<i>Later, they left Chetumal, sailing up the coast to a place reminding them of the beauty of their old home in Konkan. They dropped anchor and made their first home in America there. Not surprisingly, they decided to name their new home Kankun (Cancun). After thousands of years, the last syllable has barely changed in pronunciation.</i>

Chetumal
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“Originally, the Asuras or Nagas were not only a civilized people, but a maritime power…,Kadru, the mother of serpents, compelled Garuda (the Eagle or Hawk) to serve her sons by transporting them across the sea to a beautiful land, which was inhabited by Nagas. The Asuras (Nagas) were expert navigators who possessed very considerable naval resources and had founded upon distant coasts.” (<b>The Encircled Serpent by M. Oldfield, p. 47.</b>)

Even today, the Mexican flag has an Eagle with a serpent in its mouth, representing the arrival of the ancient Mexicans to Meso-America. It also represents the arrival of the Meshika to what is now Mexico City.
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the Jesuit priest Francisco Xavier Clavigero wrote in Volume I of his Historia Antigua de Messico (Ancient History of Mexico). Clavigero said that the Chiapaneco Mayans told him that a grandson of Noah, Votan, took people to people America. He was from the Chan (Naga or Serpent) tribe. They said that he came from the East, bringing seven groups with him. Two other leaders (Groups?) had also previously brought in settlers: Igh and Imox. He built a great city, now known as Palenque, call “Nauchan,” meaning City of the Serpents. When Noah emerged from the Ark, he and his people built their first city, calling it Nashan (The Noachide Chan).

Votan founded three tributary monarchies called Tulan, Mayapan, and Chiquimala. The ruins of Tulan are those of Tula, Hidalgo, Mexico. Mayapan is the Yucatan peninsula itself. I have not yet located the region of Chiquimala. Perhaps it is Guatemala or the Mayan province of Tzequil.

<i>Map showing the land and sea routes of the ancient Tamils</i>
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The ancient Hindu and Mayan civilizations exhibit other interesting convergences. Hindu records say that a member of a great race which preceded ours, a highly-developed personage known as <b>Asuramaya</b>, learned all the basic cosmic cycles and used his knowledge to determine the durations of the various geological and cyclical periods of human evolution. <b>The chronology and computations of their still used Tamil calendar, say the Brahmans, are based upon the works of Asuramaya and upon carefully maintained collateral zodiacal records</b>. Their most ancient extant work on astronomy, the Surya Siddhanta, says that Asuramaya lived toward the end of the Krita-yuga, a former age that ended approximately 2,165,000 years before the present. This would place Asuramaya at something less than 2.5 million years ago.

The name Asuramaya is a compound of the two Sanskrit words, Asura and Maya. The personage himself is Maya, the prefix Asura signifying that Maya was of the Asuras, a name given to a certain caste or people of the great prehistoric race that preceded our own, or Aryan humanity. The word Asura derives from surya, Sanskrit for the sun. In accordance with the archaic Indian manner of describing the matter, the astronomer named Maya was said to have gained his knowledge from studying the sun. The sun and its encircling planets also occupied the central attention of the Mayan astronomer caste in Central America.

The early Hindu thinkers visualized the passage of a race from its birth to its close as embracing four distinct phases or yugas, and they said that races overlapped each other in duration. According to their calculations, the world, in other words our present race, entered the fourth of its phases, which they term the Kali yuga or Iron age, in the year 3102 BC. This event coincided with the death of Krishna , whom they describe as an avatara or incarnation of a lofty divine-spiritual being or messiah. His departure from the earth is said to have ushered in new and different conditions affecting our race. Modern students of the ancient Mayan numerical glyphs have found that the dating of major series of events noted on Mayan stelae invariably give such reckonings in terms of the time elapsed since a date known as 4 Ahau 8 Cumhu. They know that for the Maya chroniclers this date represented a commencement point in time-reckoning of such awesome magnitude that it was central to all else in subsequent Maya history; but they don't know what it meant or why it was so important to the latter.

<b>Among other ancient nations only one, the Hindu peoples of the Indian subcontinent, is known to have developed a system of calendrics accounting for such vast periods of time</b>.

For computing the age of the earth and various geological and other epochs, as well as the age of mankind, the learned Brahman caste still employs a Tamil calendar derived from archaic astronomical data, known as the "Tirukkanda Panchanga" (cf. The Secret Doctrine, 2:49-51).


This calendar contains a calculation of something over three hundred millions of years for the age of the present earth since sedimentation occurred, and a period of somewhat more than eighteen million years since the first appearance of our mankind.

The Hindus are also the only older people besides the Mayans who are known to have employed the concept of zero in their mathematics.

When it comes to human history, however, our scholars hesitate and grow uncertain about man as civilized homo sapiens even as late as 10,000 BC, whereas Hindu savants routinely regard him as at least eighteen million years old -- and if we could read more of the Mayan historical records we might find in them a similar calculation.

The Mayans invented a solar "civil" year of 365 days. We know, however, that they made calendrical emendations and developed a more precise notion of solar time than that embodied in our own calendar.
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<i>Accurate time difference of places around the world found in ancient Sanskrit texts</i>

[ramana]

Thanks Raju for #134. Needed to show to some one in massa land.

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A New Solar X-Ray Phenomenon
By Ted Twietmeyer
tedtw@frontiernet.net
8-18-7

There exists a group of NASA satellites known as GOES. In orbit around the sun, these satellites have monitored the infrared and ultraviolet, visible light, X-ray emissions, magnetic field, proton and electron flux. Although highly chaotic, our nearest star is extremely complex and ever changing. This author has monitored it daily since the mid 90's, and satellite data show that it appears to have generated some peculiar timed radiation patterns. These patterns have been seen in the past. However, they were always accompanied by other phenomenon. For example, solar flares or other elevated levels of activity. Currently our sun is entering a new 11 year cycle which will peak around 2012. (Please don't write me about 2012 - I'm already aware of that date's many implications.)

Today there were five evenly spaced X-Rays pulses which were observed by this author:


<img src='http://www.rense.com/general77/81807.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

White circled area shows five perfectly timed X-Ray pulses. Only GOES 12 shows the source of the X-Ray emissions. All other satellites are quiet at these hours circled above.

Yet there is no other accompanying solar activity. There are no solar flares, no elevated proton or electron flux levels, no change in the magnetic field, no change in the infrared or ultraviolet spectrum or any other known electromagnetic energy. A side note - the higher the Kp levels (green bar graph above) the further south one can see the Aurora.

Here is an enlargement of the white circled area shown above:
<img src='http://www.rense.com/general77/f002.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

Each of the different colors shown above represents data from a different satellite, and each pixel (not easily discernable in this JPEG) represents 5 minute data. Note the evenly stepped drop-off in detected X-rays over three hours detected on August 16 which appears to be detected by only ONE satellite (orange line.) We also see a similar effect by the same satellite shortly after 0000 hours UTC on August 18. And there are three pulses from this satellite shown above, each one EXACTLY 21 hours apart. How can a random, chaotic star generate these patterns?

We also see that five almost perfectly spaced X-Ray emissions were detected by FOUR satellites, not just one. The graph above shows elapsed time in 3 hour intervals. These pulses appear to take place every 3 hours. When I observed other timed X-Ray pulses like this several times in past months, there was increased activity with electron, proton and magnetic field levels making any determination of independent X-Ray pulse generation difficult. I remained silent until the big question could be answered - could this happen without an accompanying increase in any other Solar radiation? Now we know.

One possibility I first proposed several years ago is that Planetary Time Jumps (PTJ) could be related to outside "corrections" made to prevent collision with orbiting near-Earth asteroids [2]. <b>If these celestial bodies were emitting X-Rays as they passed by satellites, we would see a delay in the detection of X-Rays by each satellite. That is to say, the X-Ray peaks in the GOES chart would be out of phase with each other, or simply put, overlapping and not exactly on top of one another. This was not observed. Instead, we see four different satellites showing the same X-Ray peaks simultaneously. This also eliminates any possibility of satellite malfunction, since the odds of all four satellites malfunctioning simultaneously thousands of miles apart is beyond discussion.</b>


THINKING OUTSIDE THE KNOWN BOX

What is not yet known is how or why these pulses were generated. However, it's clearly beyond all doubt these timed X-Ray emissions took place. My work on planetary time jumps three years ago appears to show an X-Ray response from the Sun whenever a PTJ occur.[1] If true, then at least FIVE such jumps have recently taken place. But how can this be?

To perform a PTJ is not simple technology. It is clearly outside publicly known technology and physics. However, it could provide a means to prevent annihilation of the Earth if it were to intersect the orbit a near-Earth object. Most probably it would be used to avoid being exposed to an outburst of a massive, deadly coronal mass ejection from our Sun that could extinguish all life on Earth. Who could do this? Perhaps others "out there" want to protect the Earth for their own selfish reasons and not because they want to protect human beings and other life-forms. Massive evidence already exists that others visit the Earth to mine it for various natural resources, such as water and our DNA.

Other planets in our solar system are effectively dead when compared to Earth. These would simply be left behind in the jump. We wouldn't even notice a time change by looking at other celestial bodies, since very little changes on these planets over long periods of time. <b>The implications of this become quite interesting ­ still-functioning spacecraft around Mars, the rovers on Mars and the Voyager spacecraft we receive signals from, would be from a different time</b>. These may provide the best indication of time jumps yet: <b>The Voyager spacecraft have been transmitting signals more than 20 years BEYOND THEIR DESIGN LIFE. And the rovers on Mars ­ should have ceased operating about 6 months into their missions. Yet all continue to operate! Why?</b>

We know today that Mars is heating up and its polar ice is receding. Other planets and moons in our solar system are probably heating up, too. It may also be that although time jump technology can time jump a planet, it cannot jump something as massive as our Sun. If a time jump were to use exactly 24 hour increments, most people wouldn't notice it happened at all. Its human nature to only pay attention to things we're conditioned to see, and ignore everything else.

On my website www.data4science.net , I've documented in the Time Jump section several repeated events observed by various people around the planet For example, passing the same car twice on a highway over a short period of time, or seeing the same person exit a building twice with only one open entrance. Or hearing part of a sentence rapidly repeated on a live radio show as this author did. These may be some of the artifacts of a PTJ. There probably exists tens of thousands of undocumented time jump observations made by countless people worldwide, who simply ignored it as a "figment of their imagination" or just a misconception. PTJs may be the biggest secret of all time, no pun intended.

With regard to the recent X-Ray pulses observed on our sun, this may suggest that as many as FIVE such jumps have recently taken place. If the sun is responsible for the end of time in 2012, it may be that a PTJ could post-pone that event. It may also be that these pulses were created by an outside intelligence, and are being used to communicate with us. Or, an advanced weapon has been used on Earth and we are seeing a response from the sun as space-time was altered. There are other implications too unsettling to discuss.

Ted Twietmeyer

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