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#81
<b>Dictator Musharraf's Second Coup </b>

<b>Chief Justice Pakistan refuses to endorse emergency </b>ISLAMABAD, Nov (Reuters): The Supreme Court Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry and eight other judges refused to endorse the provisional constitutional order issued by the president, and Chaudhry has been told his “services are no longer required”, private news channels said. Chaudhry and his fellow judges, according to a Reuters journalist, were still inside the court building on Constitution Avenue, the broad thoroughfare where the presidency and the National Assembly are also located. The road has been sealed off by troops. (Posted @ 19:36 PST)

<b>Bhutto flying back to Pakistan from Dubai -husband</b> ISLAMABAD, Nov 3 (Reuters): Former prime minister Benazir Bhutto boarded a flight back to Pakistan from Dubai on Saturday, her husband said, after President Pervez Musharraf invoked emergency powers and suspended the country's constitution. “(She's flying back) tonight, yes of course,” Asif Ali Zardari told Reuters by telephone from Dubai, saying she was already on the plane. “It's definitely not pleasant news, it's not welcome news,” he added. “We're hoping to build institutions, not destroy them.” (First Posted @ 19:18 PST Updated @ 19:48 PST)

<b>Nawaz Sharif says Pakistan heading for anarchy</b> ISLAMABAD, Nov 3 (Reuters): Exiled former President Nawaz Sharif said on Saturday Pakistan was heading towards anarchy and described President Pervez Musharraf's decision to invoke emergency powers as a form of martial law. “We are heading towards a chaotic situation, heading towards anarchy,” Sharif told Indian news channel CNN-IBN in an interview replayed by Dawn Television in Pakistan. (Posted @ 20:18 PST)
#82
How average Pakis are reacting in different fora <!--emo&Big Grin--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Please let me express my true feelings........

I am ashamed Pakistani because of despotic rulers.
My all fundamental rights are suspended.
I am no longer free
I have no freedom of speech
I have no access to the news.
Pvt Channels blocked
My judiciary attacked
Grace of my motherland dishonoured
I have been made feel humiliated
I have been cursed
I am questioning myself, why i born a bloody civilian, why not a despotic man?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>6 out of 10 judges of Sindh High court have refused to take oath under PCO.</b>
Justice Abdul-Hameed Dogar has taken oath under PCo as Chief Justice of Pakistan. Oh dear oh dear. Another Justice Munir in the making.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
#83
Emergency declared in Pakistan.

Yawn....
#84
Musharraf has declared Dogar to be to chief justice, and <b>former Justice Saeeduz Zaman has called this action absolutely unconstitutional, and he says that there is no law in Pakistan now.</b>

All the electronic media has been stopped.

http://www.canada.com/globaltv/natio...e-1bdee029329e
Aitzaz Ahsan, president of the Supreme Court Bar Association, told reporters at his home he was being arrested.

"One man has taken the entire nation hostage ... Time has come for General Musharraf to go," he said. Fellow lawyers shouted "Go Musharraf Go" as Mr. Ahsan was taken away by police.
#85
It is a coup against Supreme court and the rule of law.
#86
http://www.dawn.com/2007/11/03/welcome.htm
<b>Benazir back in Pakistan: London spokesman </b>LONDON, Nov 3 (AFP): Former Pakistan prime minister Benazir Bhutto arrived at Karachi airport from Dubai Saturday after President Pervez Musharraf declared a state of emergency, her spokesman in London told AFP. “She's at Karachi airport. I spoke to her on the plane as it was taxiing. She doesn't know whether she will be allowed to get off, be arrested or deported,” Wajid Hasan said by telephone. (First Posted @ 19:18 PST Updated @ 21:04 PST)
#87
BB has arrived at Karachi. Her residence is surrounded by troops. Reports of heavy firing from parts of Karachi especially Lyari.
#88
http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=31611

<b>Imran Khan says Musharraf should face death penalty</b>
#89
World reaction <!--emo&Confusedtupid--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pakee.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pakee.gif' /><!--endemo-->

US <b>"deeply disturbed"</b> by Musharaff moves
Britain <b>"gravely concerned"</b> at Pakistan events
Sweden<b> "very worried"</b> by emergency in Pakistan
India <b>"deeply regrets"</b> the situation in Pakistan
#90
http://www.ibnlive.com/videos/streaming-260.html

Watch this, it is hilarious, his speech is just <!--emo&:roll--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ROTFL.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ROTFL.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:roll--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ROTFL.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ROTFL.gif' /><!--endemo-->

He spoke to US and EU in english but no message for China
#91
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Musharraf defies Bush, snubs Rice</b>

<b>That deal now appears to have come unstuck</b>.

Washington though clearly had the inside scoop on Musharraf's impending moves.

Besides sending Fallon and Jordan's King Abdulla to persuade Musharraf not to go down the Emergency route, the U.S also baled out its current prima donna Benazir Bhutto, who fled to Dubai hours before the military action, ostensibly to meet her family.

But the scuttlebutt in Islamabad and Washington is that Benazir -- and the U.S -- knew the crackdown was coming, and she was advised to leave. How Washington will handle this public defiance by Musharraf of the line it laid down -- besides defying popular opinion in Pakistan -- will unravel over the next week.

Musharraf's journey from Washington's poster boy to possibly its problem child has been gradual but understated. Publicly, the Bush administration still swears by him; privately, it began swearing at him some months back when reports first surfaced that he was holding back on Washington in its war on terror.

But instead of dumping him overnight as it often does with odious dictators, Washington decided that the delicate war on terror business demanded a gradual transition in Pakistan, a country seen as the ground zero of world terrorism.

That was when the Bush administration decided to interject Benazir Bhutto, the discredited former prime minister who was not even getting a low level state department appointment till last year.

But with Musharraf in no mood to relent, Washington is now faced with a sticky new situation in a country now commonly described as the most dangerous place in the world. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
#92

<b>Mudy Ji :</b>

Please open the following Link and then Click on the Panel <b>President Pervex Musharraf's Address to the Nation</b>

http://thenews.jang.com.pk/default.asp

This should be on for the next Three to Four Hours and I would request you to <b>"Save it"</b> for further reference.

For the life of me I cannot understand the "Drunken" Urdu and hope that a Translation can be posted here for the various Members.

Cheers <!--emo&:beer--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cheers.gif' /><!--endemo-->
#93
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->This should be on for the next Three to Four Hours and I would request you to "Save it" for further reference.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
lot of stream links are available.
He was drunk out of mind, talking like a village idiot. The way he was saying, it seems rest of Paki public are idiots and illiterate. For US, message was different, it was like, he was begging.
#94
from paki fora
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><i>I don't know if people will actually be coming out onto the streets in big numbers. I expect lawyers to be again in the forefront of protests. </i>

<b>From a more semantic stand point, I doubt there is anything remotely "interesting" here. Depressing, yes. Confusing, yes. Annoying, may be. Hopelessness, you bet!</b>

<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->My brother-in-law was the president of Multan High Court Bar Association last year, and played pivotal part in rallying lawyers around Ifthikhar - apparently the warrant for his arrest has been issues without any reason.

All in all, you have kangaroo assemblies run by sell-out politicians that are completely subservient to the commands of the armed forces. This is nothing less than Martial Law.

The point being that anyone who dares to oppose is being locked up. The rulers (armed forces) are running amock like thugs with their own gangsta style rules in the Banana Republic of Pakistan. At least they should have learned a lesson or two from the demise of Zia and his entourage; in amidst of all the gala, they met their deserved and rutlessly destructive fate....just when they thought that they were invincible..<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
#95
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story...l.asp?Id=10986
<b>Benazir was taken into confidence </b> <!--emo&Big Grin--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Benazir Bhutto was taken into confidence regarding imposition of 'emergency plus' in the country and was asked to leave the country as per already finalised deal with General Musharraf, a senior Pakistan People's Party (PPP) leader based in Islamabad confided to The News on Saturday night.

"The option of imposing emergency and leaving the country on the orders of presidential camp was the agreed upon conditions in the deal between Benazir and Musharraf," the PPP leader said adding, "We are ashamed of the role played by Benazir and some other PPP leaders and will take appropriate action and measures to sustain the anti-dictatorship image of the party." The senior PPP leader (not a lawyer) told this correspondent that hatred among some senior party leaders against its leadership was increasing day by day. He revealed that during the meeting of central executive committee of PPP one night before Benazir left the country, almost all the leaders asked Benazir to remain in the country and lead the workers to resist the possible imposition of martial law under the cover of emergency. He disclosed that Benazir assured the top party leadership during the meeting that if she left the country in the next few days, she would be back before November 9, the day she was supposed to address a mass public gathering in Rawalpindi. He said that Benazir was repeatedly requested during the meeting not to leave the country till the announcement of verdict on Musharraf's eligibility by the Supreme Court, however, she didn't give any importance to the suggestion of almost all the senior party leaders. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
#96
http://thenews.jang.com.pk/updates.asp?id=31619

<b>U.S. has no plan to suspend military aid to Pakistan </b> <!--emo&Big Grin--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
#97
Dozens of our superior justices now seem to be falling in line as well, and have taken a new oath under the new PCO, including:-

ALL of the 5 judges of the Balochistan High Court.
MAJORITY (7 of 13) of the Peshawar High Court judges.
MAJORITY of the Lahore High Court judges i.e. 13 have already and 5 more will.
4 judges of the Sindh High Court.
4 judges of the Supreme Court of Pakistan.

http://www.nation.com.pk/daily/nov-2007/4/index5.php

So 38 Judges have taken (or will take) an oath on the PCO. <!--emo&Big Grin--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
#98
<b>Feisty media defied Pak military crackdown</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->WASHINGTON: Twenty first century technology trumped 20th century tactics as Pakistan's feisty media defied the military crackdown and conveyed the nation's turmoil and agony to the world.

Although Perves Musharraf's military junta shut down the country's cable news channels and free media, some outlets continued their broadcast over the internet, and when net access was denied, used their Gulf offices to provide updates.

The Urdu-language Aaj TV went bilingual in one webcast, so that, its anchor said, "we can tell the world what is happening in Pakistan."

The Pakistani diaspora and regional analysts also tapped into Al Jazeera, Indian news channels, and Indian websites, all of which provided wall-to-wall coverage of the developments.

Some Pakistani newspapers managed to update their websites and be read in the west despite the crackdown at home.

US channels were mostly asleep on the watch, as they tend to be on Saturday mornings. The domestic CNN cottoned on to the story only at 10 a.m EST, hours after it broke.

Thanks to the internet, news emerged soon after the emergency declaration that a majority of Pakistan Supreme Court judges had declared it illegal. Some of them, including chief justice Chowdhury, were reportedly arrested as a result.

The Supreme Court judges were required to sign a new provisional constitutional order mandating the state of emergency, but 6 of the 11 justices signed an order calling the declaration illegal, it was revealed.

As always, some of the US print media was ahead of the curve on the emergency issue based on select briefings from the administration. The New York Times had reported on Friday that the Bush administration had warned Musharraf against declaring martial law.

By the time Musharraf went on the live television past midnight Pakistan time for an hour long rant and whine, much of the sub-continent was asleep. But it was prime time in Europe and 3 pm in the United States, where Musharraf's patrons were tuned in to hear his latest explanation for subverting democracy.

Evidently aware that he had to explain his action to his benefactors, Musharraf switched to English about 40 minutes into his lament. But after a live telecast of the first few minutes which was in Urdu, CNN had lost patience and turned to domestic programming. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
#99
from deaf and dumb forum <!--emo&Big Grin--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->View Poll Results: Poll: Imposition of Emergency 
I am against imposition of emergency    17 25.37%
I am in favour of imposing emergency    42 62.69%
Not sure    8 11.94%
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<b>NO MORE GLORIFICATION OF SAVAGE KILLERS</b>

http://www.dawn.com/2007/11/04/top13.htm

“No printer, publisher or editor shall print or publish” any material that consist of photographs of suicide bombers, terrorists (except required by the law-enforcement agencies for the purpose of investigation), bodies of victims of terrorist activities, statements and pronouncements of militants and extremist elements and any other thing, which may, in any way, promote aid or abet terrorist activities or terrorism, or their graphic and printed representation based on sectarianism and ethnicity or racialism.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Nareshji,

Complete sensor from Land of fools.


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