Islamism - 7

[Husky]

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Azamgarh to host Islam’s largest global meet </b>
Anurag Singh; Expressindia. com ; Dec 29, 2007
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<b>global Islamic movement Tablighi Jammat.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Media should go film every second of it and telecast it (and its surrounding situation) live. That way the peacists may be more wary of carrying out the usual hatespeech and islamic hoodlumism that go on during their Friday prayer gatherings, or at least it will be exposed for the entire nation to see. In the latter case, even the proud ultra-pseculars will not be able to keep their countenance if the usual plans like "death to kaffirs", "death to Israel/America/<some other western country>" and "must convert kaffiristan to mooghalistan" get bandied about and shown on the news.
In the Netherlands (and even Australia), some common rabid islami preachers rousing their faithful audience with hatespeech have been caught in the act and it's always enjoyable seeing the loud-mouthed villains squirm and try to argue that the meaning to what they so clearly (but unwittingly) stated on record was in fact different. Their entertaining excuses - which make you want to reach for the replay button - come off sounding rather like "2+2 is not 4 as you imagine, it's actually anything but..."

[dhu]

The Other Jihad: Islam's War on the Hindus

Review of
<b>The Art of War on Terror: Triumphing over Political Islam and the Axis of Jihad</b>
By Moorthy Muthuswamy

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The United States is hampered by its belief in Islam as a conventional faith and not a political ideology, Muthuswamy writes. This belief mistakenly frames the situation as a freedom-of-religion issue, he says. The author feels that America is weakened by its strong religious outlook and needs to refocus its priorities on scientific and technological development.<b> "Information-based societies," such as China and India, have an advantage over theologically-based ones, Muthuswamy says. </b>He adds that religion restricts effective functioning in the modern world and needs to be supplanted by common sense and science.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

[Bodhi]

from the article (provided by dhu above)

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Muthuswamy cites research on the Koran, conducted by the Center for Political Islam, which illustrates the Islamic focus on conformist behavior and beliefs. According to the Center's analysis of the Koran, the Sira, and the Hadith, only 17% of the Islamic trilogy deals with the words of Allah. The remaining 83% refers to the words and deeds of Mohammed. Of all of the references to "hell" in the trilogy, 6% are for moral failings, while 94% are for the transgression of disagreeing with Mohammed. Statistical analysis of the trilogy revealed that 97% of references to "jihad" relate to war and a mere 3% to the concept of "inner struggle." <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

An interview with Bill Warner, the director of the Center for the Study of Political Islam (CSPI)

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->FP: Why, in your view, is there so much ignorance about the history and doctrine of political Islam in the West?

Warner: First, let’s see how ignorant we are about the history of political Islam. How many Christians can tell you how Turkey or Egypt became Islamic? What happened to the Seven Churches of Asia mentioned in Paul’s letters? Find a Jew who can tell you the Jewish history of dhimmitude (second class citizens who serve Islam). What European knows that white women were the highest priced slaves in Mecca? Everyone knows how many Jews Hitler killed, but find an unbeliever who can tell you how many died in jihad over the last 1400 years.

We are just as ignorant about the doctrine of Islam. An FBI agent gets two hours of training on Islam and most of that is how not to offend the imam. We are fighting in Iraq. Who utilizes the political, military doctrine of Islam to plan strategy? Who can find a single rabbi or minister who has read the Koran, Sira and Hadith? What governor, senator, congressmen or military leader displays a knowledge of the political doctrine of Islam? Try to find a course available in a college about Islamic political doctrine and ethics. Graduates are schooled in Islamic art, architecture, poetry, Sufism, and a glorious history that ignores the suffering of the innocent unbelievers. Graduates read comments about the Koran and Hadith, but do not read the actual doctrine. 

FP: So why this ignorance?

Warner: Let’s start at the beginning. When Islam burst out of Arabia into a decaying Byzantine world, the unbelievers recorded it as an Arabic invasion. Similarly, the invasion of Eastern Europe was by Turks; the invasion of Spain was by Moors. Our scholars were incapable of even naming the invaders.

Mohammed killed every single intellectual or artist who opposed him. It was fear that drove the vast majority of the media not to reprint the Mohammed cartoons, not some imagined sensitivity. Fear is a fabulous basis for ignorance, but that is not enough to explain it all. What accounts for the almost psychotic aversion to knowledge about Islam? Beyond fear is the realization that political Islam is profoundly foreign to us.
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The last reason for our aversion to the history of political Islam is our shame. Islam put over a million Europeans into slavery. Since Muslims can’t be enslaved, it was a white Christian who was the Turkish sultan’s sex slave. These are things that we do not want to face.

Jews don’t want to acknowledge the history of political Islam, because they were dhimmis, second class citizens or semi-slaves, just like the Christians. Jews like to recall how they were advisors and physicians to powerful Muslims, but no matter what the Jew did or what position he held, he was still a dhimmi. There is no compromise between being equal and being a dhimmi

Why should a Hindu want to recall the shame of slavery and the destruction of their temples and cities? After Hindu craftsmen built the Taj Mahal, the Muslim ruler had their right hands cut off so that they could not build anything as beautiful for anyone else. The practice of suttee, the widow throwing herself on the husband’s funeral pyre, came about as a response to the rape and brutality of the Islamic jihad as it sweep over ancient Hindustan.

Blacks don’t want to face the fact that it was a Muslim who rounded up their ancestors in Africa to wholesale to the white slave trader. The Arab is the true master of the African. Blacks can’t accept the common bond they share with whites: that both Europeans and Africans were slaves under Islam. Blacks like to imagine Islam is their counterweight to white power, not that Islam has ruled them for 1400 years.

Dualistic logic. Dualistic ethics. Fear. Shame. There is no compromise. These are the reasons we don’t want to know about Islam’s political history, doctrine or ethics.
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->At least 75% of the Sira (life of Mohammed) is about jihad. About 67% of the Koran written in Mecca is about the unbelievers, or politics. Of the Koran of Medina, 51% is devoted to the unbelievers. About 20% of Bukhari’s Hadith is about jihad and politics. Religion is the smallest part of Islamic foundational texts.



Political Islam’s most famous duality is the division of the world into believers, dar al Islam, and unbelievers, dar al harb. The largest part of the Trilogy relates to treatment of the unbelievers, kafirs. Even Hell is political. There are 146 references to Hell in the Koran. Only 6% of those in Hell are there for moral failings—murder, theft, etc. The other 94% of the reasons for being in Hell are for the intellectual sin of disagreeing with Mohammed, a political crime. Hence, Islamic Hell is a political prison for those who speak against Islam.



Mohammed preached his religion for 13 years and garnered only 150 followers. But when he turned to politics and war, in 10 years time he became the first ruler of Arabia by averaging an event of violence every 7 weeks for 9 years. His success did not come as a religious leader, but as a political leader.



In short, political Islam defines how the unbelievers are to be dealt with and treated.



FP: Can you touch briefly on the history of political Islam?

Warner: The history of political Islam starts with Mohammed’s immigration to Medina. From that point on, Islam’s appeal to the world has always had the dualistic option of joining a glorious religion or being the subject of political pressure and violence. After the immigration to Medina, Islam became violent when persuasion failed. Jihad entered the world.

After Mohammed’s death, Abu Bakr, the second caliph, settled the theological arguments of those who wished to leave Islam with the political action of death by the sword. The jihad of Umar (the second caliph, a pope-king) exploded into the world of the unbelievers. Jihad destroyed a Christian Middle East and a Christian North Africa. Soon it was the fate of the Persian Zoroastrian and the Hindu to be the victims of jihad. The history of political Islam is the destruction of Christianity in the Middle East, Egypt, Turkey and North Africa. Half of Christianity was lost. Before Islam, North Africa was the southern part of Europe (part of the Roman Empire). Around 60 million Christians were slaughtered during the jihadic conquest.

Half of the glorious Hindu civilization was annihilated and 80 million Hindus killed.

The first Western Buddhists were the Greeks descended from Alexander the Great’s army in what is now Afghanistan. Jihad destroyed all of Buddhism along the silk route. About 10 million Buddhists died. <b>The conquest of Buddhism is the practical result of pacifism.</b> 

Zoarasterianism was eliminated from Persia.

The Jews became permanent dhimmis throughout Islam.

In Africa over 120 million Christians and animists have died over the last 1400 years of jihad.

<b>Approximately 270 million nonbelievers died over the last 1400 years for the glory of political Islam. These are the Tears of Jihad which are not taught in any school.</b>
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[Bodhi]

A book by him:

Mohammed, Allah, and Hinduism

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Why does Islam consider Hinduism to be the worst religion?
What is the political fate of all Hindus?
Jihad destroyed half of ancient India and killed 80 million Hindus. Why?
Why did the polytheists lose to Mohammed?
Islam treats Hindus just like the Meccans of Mohammed's day. Why?

Any question you have about the doctrine of Islam and the Hindus can be answered by this book.

The first enemies of Allah were the polytheists of Mecca. The jihad against them became the model for war against the other enemies of Allah­—Jews, Christians, intellectuals, and artists. All of today's Hindu/Muslim politics are based upon Mohammed’s war against the polytheists.

This book is a complete compilation of the political doctrine of Islam as it relates to the polytheists. The information is taken from the source texts—the Koran, the Sira (the life of Mohammed) and the Hadith (the Traditions of Mohammed).
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and one chapter that can be downloaded: http://www.cspipublishing.com/pdfs/WebSite...HindWebSite.pdf

[Shambhu]

Issues before Malaysian Hindus for being Hindus are varied. Mother and child, husband and wife are forcibly separated if one’s name is mistakenly or purposely registered as Mohammedan. If any Hindu male gets converted to Mohammedanism, his wife and even major offsprings are automatically taken for granted to be Mohammedans. They are sent to religious reformation schools if they raise any objection to their forced conversion. It is needless to explain that these so-called religious reformation schools are nothing but similar to concentration camps of communist countries. If a Hindu finds his or her religion wrongly registered as Mohammedan and application for rectification is filed, there ends the peaceful and normal existence of that person. The religious reformation school alias concentration camp opens its iron gates and until the person changes his or her mind and consents to be a Mohammedan, he or she is virtually a prisoner. A recent case of this sort of arrogance is that of one young mother by name Revati, who was separated from her small baby and husband, and shut in the religious reformation school just because she wanted her religion to be corrected as Hindu in the records. All along, she had been a practising Hindu, living with her grand mother since her childhood, who is also a Hindu but her parents living elsewhere were converted to Mohammedanism at a point of time. That was enough for the administration to treat her also a Mohammedan. Again, a Hindu, just because either intentionally or inadvertently registered as a Mohammedan, when dies, is forcibly buried in a Mohammedan burial ground, deprived of Hindu rites.
http://pseudosecularism.blogspot.com/2008/...difference.html

[Guest]

Book
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1596980281/ref=pe...413870_pe_ar_d1
<b>The Truth About Muhammad: Founder of the World's Most Intolerant Religion </b>(Hardcover)
by Robert Spencer (Author) <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->From the Inside Flap
Muhammad: a frank look at his influential (and violent) life and teachings
In The Truth about Muhammad, New York Times bestselling author and Islam expert Robert Spencer offers an honest and telling portrait of the founder of Islam-perhaps the first such portrait in half a century-unbounded by fear and political correctness, unflinching, and willing to face the hard facts about Muhammad's life that continue to affect our world today.

From Muhammad's first "revelation" from Allah (which filled him with terror that he was demonpossessed) to his deathbed (from which he called down curses upon Jews and Christians), it's all here-told with extensive documentation from the sources that Muslims themselves consider most reliable about Muhammad.

Spencer details Muhammad's development from a preacher of hellfire and damnation into a political and military leader who expanded his rule by force of arms, promising his warriors luridly physical delights in Paradise if they were killed in his cause. He explains how the Qur'an's teaching on warfare against unbelievers developed-with constant war to establish the hegemony of Islamic law as the last stage.

Spencer also gives the truth about Muhammad's convenient "revelations" justifying his own licentiousness; his joy in the brutal murders of his enemies; and above all, his clear marching orders to his followers to convert non-Muslims to Islam-or force them to live as inferiors under Islamic rule.

<b>In The Truth about Muhammad, you'll learn </b>
- The truth about Muhammad's multiple marriages (including one to a nine-year-old) - How Muhammad set legal standards that make it virtually impossible to prove rape in Islamic countries - How Muhammad's example justifies jihad and terrorism - The real "Satanic verses" incident (not the Salman Rushdie version) that remains a scandal to Muslims - How Muhammad's faulty knowledge of Judaism and Christianity has influenced Islamic theology--and colored Muslim relations with Jews and Christians to this day.

Recognizing the true nature of Islam, Spencer argues, is essential for judging the prospects for largescale Islamic reform, the effective prosecution of the War on Terror, the democracy project in Afghanistan and Iraq, and immigration and border control to protect the United States from terrorism.

All of which makes it crucial for every citizen (and policymaker) who loves freedom to read and ponder The Truth about Muhammad.
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[Guest]

<b>Breastfeeding fatwa ranks in world's "stupidest</b>"<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->First was the 1989 fatwa from Ayatollah Khomeini that sanctioned the killing of Salman Rushdie, the British author of The Satanic Verses, a controversial book on the origins of the Quran.

Then came the "unclothed sex" fatwa that annuls the marriage of a couple who take off all their clothes when having sex,

while the third banned the Japanese Pokemon games because they encourage gambling, which is forbidden in Islam.

In fourth place was the fatwa issued by some Pakistani chieftains that polio vaccines are a Western conspiracy to spread infertility amongst Muslims.

In another poll conducted by IslamOnline.com, the breastfeeding fatwa edged out the fatwa on flogging journalists issued by Al-Azhar's Grand Imam Sheikh Sayed Tantawi and the sacredness of the prophet's urine by Egypt's Mufti Sheikh Ali Gomaa.

Gomaa's statement that the prophet's apostles used to seek blessing by drinking his urine was no less provocative. Gomaa actually cited an incident when a woman drank the urine and the prophet told her "this stomach of yours will never see hell."

In May, Dr. Ezzat Atiya, head of Hadith (Prophetic Tradition) Department at Al-Azhar University, told AlArabiya.net that <b>women should breastfeed their male co-workers so they can be alone in a closed office space.

“Breastfeeding an adult man five times makes it legal for the woman to sit alone with that man at a closed workplace. This way, the woman can take off her veil in front of her work-mate without being in violation of Islamic rulings," </b>Atiya said.
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[Guest]

Centre's advice: Deploy Muslims in Muslim areas
Sumit Pande / CNN-IBN

Thu, Sep 06, 2007

<i>BANKING ON FAITH: Govt's move is an indication that it needs a large share of Muslim vote in case of a mid-term poll.</i>

New Delhi: The Congress-led UPA government on Wednesday played the biggest Muslim card so far.

In a clear indication that it needs a large share of the Muslim vote in case of a mid-term poll, the Government is now asking states to deploy more Muslim policemen, teachers and health workers in Muslim dominated areas. This is particularly in context where there is great deal of public hearing.

So, an election-bound coalition is perhaps preparing for the inevitable by putting Sachar Panel recommendations on a fast track.

The Department of Personnel and Training (DoPT) has written a letter to all state governments and union territories that there should be more Muslim policemen, teachers and health workers.

“This is not unprecedented. Even during Indira Gandhi's time such letters were written to chief ministers however it’s another thing that they were not followed,” Member Secretary of the Sachar Commission, Abu Saleh Sharif said.

That’s not all, DoPT has also directed Union Home, Health and Human Resource Development ministries to frame guidelines for these postings in minority dominated areas.

Although Home, Health and Education appointments are a prerogative of state governments and the advisory is not binding but political overtones are quite evident.

“They are trying to nutralise the effect of the nuclear deal row with the Left,” BJP Spokesperson Ravi Shankar Prasad said.

The Government has so far accepted 72 out of the 76 recommendations by the Sachar Panel.

The Government has however, rejected recommendation to have a caste based census and the other contentious issue of Muslim reservations has been put on a backburner.

But it’s also a clear enough indication that a strategy is being worked upon to counter Left allegations on the Congress of being pro-imperialist after a bitter stand-off over the Indo-US nuclear deal.

[Shambhu]

Just saw a clip of bigot southern baptist minister Huckabee talking about how how Islamofascism originated with Saeed Qutb.."Islam is not the problem"....Presidential wanabee Huckabee, what about Muhammed? He led a saintly life, right?

Huck and all republican xtian bigots (whether in the closet or out and out hate-preachers) need to stay in their churches. Not that dems are much better, but they are not so pro-missionary. (all other considerations are secondary as far as I am concerned).

[Guest]

Democrats are ready to give ticket to Barack <b>Hussein </b>Obama. <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
People are clueless, I think after they will get elected, then during On Job Training when they will get briefing on Middle East, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Maladives, then they will understand what is Islam, as our great hero Bush learnt in Sept 2001.

[Guest]

<b>Boy scout saves leader of the Maldives </b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->COLOMBO, Sri Lanka - The president of the Maldives was saved from assassination Tuesday when a boy scout grabbed the knife of an attacker who had jumped out of a crowd greeting the leader, an official said.

President Maumoon Abdul Gayoom was not hurt, but his shirt was ripped when the attacker tried to stab him before the boy and security guards intervened during the event on the small island of Horafushi, said government spokesman Mohammad Shareef.

"This fellow in the crowd with a knife in his hand attempted to stab the president in his stomach," Shareef said by telephone from Male, the capital. "But a 15-year-old boy came in the way, and grabbed the knife. One brave boy saved the president's life."

The scout was identified as <b>Mohamed Jaisham Ibrahim</b>, who had lined up to welcome Gayoom, according to the president's Web site.

The boy was injured in the hand by the knife. "His wound was stitched but later he complained that he could not move some of his fingers, so he was flown by a sea plane to Male," Shareef said.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Maladives was not fanatic enough according to Sunni Paki standards. This is very serious for India and rest of civilized world.
Never heard Jaisham as muslim name.

[ramana]

I wanted to post this yesterday but forum troubles delayed it.


Google Books- Islam_Beliefs and Institutions- Henri Lammens
Please read and get educated.

[shamu]

<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Jan 9 2008, 12:09 AM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Jan 9 2008, 12:09 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Never heard Jaisham as muslim name.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Jaish-E-Muhammad

[ramana]

Could be cross posted but is more relevant here.

op-Ed in Pioneer, 9 Jan., 2008
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Islam versus Islam

Prafull Goradia

Benazir Bhutto's assassination underlines <b>ongoing civil war between Islamists and civil Muslims</b>

The assassination of Banazir Bhutto is yet another episode in <b>the civil war between the comprehensive Islamists and the civil Muslims in Pakistan. To the former, life is Islam first and Islam last. To the latter, there is more to life than the scriptures ordained; religion is only the lifeline between man and Allah. </b>

Mohammed Ali Jinnah should be credited with indicating what a civil Muslim should be, in his famous speech to the Constituent Assembly at Karachi on August 11, 1947: "You are free; you are free to go to your temples, you are free to go to your mosques or to any other places of worship in the state of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion or caste or creed -- that has nothing to do with the business of the state".

Whether it is President Pervez Musharraf, or the military establishment or Mr Nawaz Sharif or the legatees of Benazir Bhutto, and all those who would like to lead a normal life, regardless of their political preference, should all be united in this conviction. The soldier, as distinct from the mujahid, falls on the side of the military establishment.

In Pakistan, however, there is a problem. The Baluch sepoy may be in sympathy with regional separatism, the Pathan or the Pushtoon soldier may be partly or wholly charmed by the Islamists, whether represented by Taliban or Al Qaeda. <b>This means that the Pakistan Army is not all on the same side in the ongoing civil war.</b>

<b>Pakistan is in many ways the centre of the Muslim universe.</b> There is Iran in the north-west, Arabia in the west, India to the south, Bangla-desh, Indonesia, Malaysia, etc, are in the east. <b>There are two faces of the Islam, the comprehensive and the civil so equably divided. The destiny of Islam hangs in balance on the dusty plains of West Punjab and on the hot sands of Sindh. On the outcome will depend whether most Muslims of the world will have the opportunity to enjoy a free normal life or whether they will be condemned figuratively into the burqa.</b>

<b>However, this is not the first time that Islam has fought Islam. </b>Within 50 years of the ascension of Prophet Mohammed, the first decisive intra-Islamic battle was fought -- on October 10, 680, on the plane of Karballa situated about 50 miles from Baghdad. The Shias lost their entire holy family headed by Husain ibn-Ali and his brother, Hasan. The bloody clash at Karballa was the acme of a ruthless tussle between the sons of the fourth and the fifth Caliph.

Hazrat Ali was a cousin as well as son-in-law of Mohammed. He and his followers believed that the Caliph or the representative of the Prophet should necessarily be a blood descendant of Mohammed. Ali became the fourth Caliph, but unfortunately he was murdered in 661 AD. Muawiyah was old but ambitious and persuaded Ali's son Husain to allow him to get the opportunity of being the successor. After him Husain would be the consensus choice. The situation was so manoeuvred that on the death of Muawiyah, his son Yazid was made the Caliph.

Husain and his supporters could not forgive the breach of promise which eventually led to the fateful battle of Karballa. <b>Those who remained faithful to the memory of Ali and Husain became the Shias, while others are called Sunnis. </b>The bad blood between the two denominations of Islam spews periodically whether on the streets of Lucknow or in the mosques of Pakistan.

<b>Earlier Pakistan's ulema had displayed intolerance to the extent of expelling Ahmadiyas from the fold of Islam. The reason given was that the sect's founder, Mirza Ghulam Ahmed (1839-1908) claimed to be the Mahdi or the expected messiah.</b>

Since 2004, Iraq has witnessed the most violent clashes between the Shias and Sunnis since Karballa. Admittedly, for centuries, the area bristled with suppressed Shia frustration. Although they have been a majority whether around Baghdad or Basra, it was the Arab Sunnis who ruled all the way until Saddam Hussein was overthrown by US troops in 2003. Neighbouring Iran, which is entirely Shia, was able to do little to help its Iraqi brethren. Iran is also oil rich and so is jealous of Saudi Arabia. <b>Apart from the Shia Sunni syndrome, the Arab Sheikhs or monarchs abhor an electoral Iran. Without a monarchy in place, Iran is potentially a radical state which could upset or overthrow the opulent status quo of West Asia.</b>

The monarchies are about the only countries which appear stable or free from an Islam versus Islam conflict. Egypt is ruled by Nasserites who are bitterly opposed to the extremist Muslim Brotherhood. <b>In Algeria, there was a civil war which began in 1991 when Islamists attacked the Government forces. By 2002, when the fighting finally ended, two lakh lives had been lost. President Abdelaziz Boutaflika, elected in 1999, led the victory of the civil elements and the defeat of the Islamists.</b>

Decades earlier, <b>Turkey</b> had witnessed a big blow to the orthodoxy at the hands of those Muslims who saw a future only in Europeanisation. Yet, 80 years later, <b>it is not certain that Turkish politics will not be lured by Islamism</b>.

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[Guest]

Now we have three/four nutcase area out of India to worry, they are Pakistan, Bangladesh, Maldives, and Chechnya. They are surrounding India, any civil war or war between sect or Jihad will effect India. Radical Mullah take over is certain, Pakistan Mullah will decide new world order. India is already entered in mullah game by dhimmitude attitude of current government. India had lost it again.
In this region death toll his already over lakh and will go up in many folds in future.

[Shambhu]

The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) made a decision about a man who had intercourse with his wife's slave-girl as follows. If he forced her, she is free, and he shall give her mistress a slave-girl similar to her; if she asked him to have intercourse voluntarily, she will belong to him, and he shall give her mistress a slave-girl similar to her.
http://ibloga.blogspot.com/

[Guest]

<b>UN Gag Order</b>

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->By Joseph Klein
FrontPageMagazine.com | Friday, January 11, 2008

The Islamic propaganda machine has turned Western democratic values inside out to the Islamists’ advantage. <b>Cloaking themselves in the rhetoric of multiculturalism and tolerance, Islamists succeeded in getting the United Nations General Assembly to pass a resolution late last year condemning the defamation of religions – but the only religion mentioned in the resolution was Islam.</b> This follows in the wake of a declaration by the UN “expert” on racism, who told the UN Human Rights Council last September that “Islamophobia today is the most serious form of religious defamation” and constituted a threat to world peace.

This was payback time for those insulting Danish cartoons that so upset the Islamic world and led to the very specter of violence in the name of Islam that the cartoons were meant to critique in the first place. Totally ignored were all the cartoons, editorials and television programs in Muslim countries that regularly promote hatred of Jews, Christians, and members of other faiths.

Playing on “enlightened” Westerners’ guilt and their fear of being branded Islamophobes, the Islamists managed to silence any vigorous defense of the virtues of free expression and freedom of conscience. Next the Islamists intend to leverage their UN resolution to pressure Western countries into adopting blasphemy statutes aimed at protecting their religion from “hurtful” or “defamatory” remarks of any kind. A spokesperson for the Organization of Islamic Conference, the 57-member state group that pushed for the defamation resolution, said last March that there is “a dire need to fill the judicial vacuum of deficiency in dealing with the question of respect for religions” and demanded “effective and legally binding measures for combating defamation of all religions.” In their conception of “Truth,” since Islam is the only true religion and Islam forbids Muslims to criticize their religion in any way, it would simply make no sense to allow the lesser among us who are infidels to show any disrespect to Islam.

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[Bodhi]

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->LONDON: Felix-Browne, 51, who told TOI she met 27-year-old Omar Osama bin Laden in September, only to marry him seven months later "for love", says her new husband is being forced to eke out an ignominious living as a scrap metal dealer.

"What can he do? He arrived in Saudi Arabia without a riyal in his pocket. And he can't get a job. He has no money."

The answer, claims the new Mrs bin Laden, may be for Omar to start a new business in Britain, "with my help...possibly under my name if he can't use his".

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->she insists, it was a courtship "like that of any Islamic couple...always with a chaperone". <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Omar Osama, she says is "a beautiful person – his heart is pure, he is pious, quiet, a true gentleman and he is my best friend". <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

In footsteps of his Prophet.

[Guest]

<!--QuoteBegin-Bodhi+Jan 18 2008, 08:03 PM-->QUOTE(Bodhi @ Jan 18 2008, 08:03 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->LONDON: Felix-Browne, 51, who told TOI she met 27-year-old Omar Osama bin Laden in September, only to marry him seven months later "for love", says her new husband is being forced to eke out an ignominious living as a scrap metal dealer.

"What can he do? He arrived in Saudi Arabia without a riyal in his pocket. And he can't get a job. He has no money."

The answer, claims the new Mrs bin Laden, may be for Omar to start a new business in Britain, "with my help...possibly under my name if he can't use his".

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Omar Osama, she says is "a beautiful person – his heart is pure, he is pious, quiet, a true gentleman and he is my best friend". <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

In footsteps of his Prophet.
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Awwwwwwwwwwwwww.. When is bollywood gonna make a mushy mushy movie out of this love story.... <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

[Guest]

Mahesh Bhatt, Tejpal and Rakesh Sharma are working on script. They are working on location in Godhara, as you know Modi and riots scene are must for this movie.
Pooja Bhatt and Teesta will perform item dance. M.F. Hussain will perform OBL role. Arjun Singh woman's father, Sachar as marriage organizer. ManMohan Singh will perform Imam role.
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