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Precisely. Google for McCain and Hagee and wonder as to why that is not an issue? Could be because we know McCain's a politician and disappointed that Barak's the same?
05-03-2008, 07:11 AM
(This post was last modified: 05-03-2008, 07:16 AM by Shambhu.)
Hannity's show tonight is about Black Lib Theology. Some guy who is chief of all reverends or something just came on and said BLT is rooted in Marxism (shot of Communist Manifesto).
In March 07 JW had teleconferenced to the Hannity show. The title under the screen read "(can't remember)..secessionist movement". (They just showed snips of that show).
Now thet are talking of Nicaraguan churches. They are saying they have jeebus in the form of a sandinista soldier in those churches.
Titus, why hast thou forsaken me?!
Labels can be misleading. otherwise Dalai Lama would be a communist and Vietnamese nationalists would be anti-buddhist. The only distinction that is important is the one between ideology (anyone who engages in "values" terminology) and the heathen framework.
They are doing switch over from d'souza sepoy type to arundhati sepoy type. This is what the obama phenomenon is all about.
Obamaâs âRace Neutralâ Strategy Unravels of its Own Contradictions
Shambhu,
I was also watching same programme, want to add more. Basically they are saying it is Marxism, communism, anti-Christ, anti-catholic movement. Promote violence against White race. They are considering this anti-white, non Christian movement started in Latin America.
These commie leaders are always rich. Rev Wright drive 2 Benz, 12000 sq ft house, and 12 million dollar credit line.
Let me start my Church, sorry its my retirement programme, I can give firey sermon. <!--emo&  --><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Viren+May 3 2008, 05:26 AM-->QUOTE(Viren @ May 3 2008, 05:26 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Discussion in Club 700 or Black Church is no different. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Precisely. Google for McCain and Hagee and wonder as to why that is not an issue? Could be because we know McCain's a politician and disappointed that Barak's the same?
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Hagee is not McCain preacher or McCain sat in pew for 20 years and wrote a book whose title was inspired by his spiritual Adviser. Hagee is not a part of campaign but Rev. Wright was part of Campaign. It is all together different.
Crowd which is supporting Obama is very scary, tactics he had used to win election is fraud. His campaign made wrong Robo-call. Some from his campaign called residence in NC. During discussion caller told them you are racist because you are not supporting Obama, Person said yes call me racist or whatever I am going to vote HRC. If you go to any blog hijacked by Obamabots, you will get real feel what is coming.
Today, they had caught duplicate ballot papers in Salem, NC. I am not surprised why lot of electronic machine fails in Black area and Obama take extension in those voting area and forced them for paper ballot.
Some are saying paper ballot can be verified by paper water sign. Nobody knows do they check every ballot for water sign. Or some people just stuff papers in ballot box.
Caucus fraud
Level of fraud is mind boggling. Last time this level of fraud took place some during JFK Presidential election.
I am thinking to write letters to Carter, Kerry, Biden, Hagel with advise, first fix your election then visit other countries as Election monitors.
BO wins Guam by 7 votes. I guess delegates get split 2-2.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->9:30 a.m. Guam â Herbie Perez, Democrat Party Nominating Committee Chairperson, says officials will look over the large amount of âspoiledâ ballots in the coming days. At issue is small margin of victory for Senator Barack Obama. He beat his rival Senator Hillary Clinton by 7 votes,<b> but well over 500 ballots were deemed invalid during the tabulation process</b>. Perez says she will not certify the results because the Committee needs to ensure all were properly identified as âspoiled.â She says officials from the Party and representatives from both candidates will meet probably Monday or Tuesday to address that issue.
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Shambhu,
as usual, something fishy, lets see what comes out from this.
BO spend big chunk of money, he had fully paid offices and caucaus experts on ground shipped from US mainland. <!--emo&  --><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Same thing happened in other caucus election.
Good, I hope this issue keeps him on defensive akong with the dozen or so that are already out there and takes time out of his useless sermonizing.
Also, it looks like BO has a history of dodging tough votes; and the bills he does pass are actually other senators' bills with BO being jsut a tack-on.
They are saying ballots just disappeared/thrown into dustbin. What a fraud ?
Now BO's wife is saying he is tired of fighting with Hillary and boiling, he just controling himself. he is waiting to fight with McCain.
Another titbit -
In Indiana, Republican who had changed party for this primary waiting for instructions from Rush, which side to vote under "Operation Chaos". <!--emo&:clapping--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/clap.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='clap.gif' /><!--endemo-->
McCain-Jindal?
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Maybe thatâs why, in separate conversations last week, <b>no fewer than four McCain staffers and advisers mentioned as a possible vice-presidential pick the 36-year-old Louisiana governor, Bobby Jindal. Theyâre tempted by the idea of picking someone so young, with real accomplishments and a strong reformist streak</b>.
It might also be a way to confront the issue of McCainâs age (71), which private polls and focus groups suggest could be a real problem. A Jindal pick would implicitly acknowledge the questions and raise the ante. The message would be: âYou want generational change? You can get it with McCain-Jindal â without risking a liberal and inexperienced Obama as commander in chief.â I would add that it was after McCain spent considerable time with Jindal in New Orleans recently, and reportedly found him, as he has before, personally engaging and intellectually impressive, that the campaignâs informal name-dropping of Jindal began.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Of course, Bill Kristol hasn't got anything right in past 7 years.
Jindal will be another Obama. I think they are confusing with skin color, somebody please tell crystal Jindal parents are from India not Africa.
Any bets for tomorrow ?
IN - Hillary 5-9%
NC - Hillary 1-2% very close
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Just heard on MSNBC that HRC's internal tracking shows that she is gaining ground in NW IN (the region that is flooded with Chicago radio and TV).
At this stage we don't have accurate feel about Research Triangle in NC (Raliegh, Durham, Cary) This area is basically 19% liberals and majority of them are white. They call themselves liberals so lot of pollsters are presuming they will vote for Obama, but my gut feeling and after talking to couple of people they may say they will vote for Obama but in ballot vote for Hillary. After Wright issue, Obama is no longer electable in GE. So sane democrats will vote for Hillary, better chance.
Other factor which is not in news, Bill Clinton blanketing NC rural, which can bring both White and Black votes. Hillary need only 15-20% black votes to pull this off or liberals 10-15%.
My own assesment based on call response it is neck to neck but undecided are 16%. If you are interested to make free calls on her behalf, I can hook you up.
In IN, Chicago area will come for Hillary, because of Rezko trial, rural population is voting based on race. Indianpolis will go for Obama because of Black population. But his number is going down in Black community after Wright issue. Black leaders are pitching with code language, but it may not work. Outcome may not be 95% blacks voting for Obama. I think this time it may be in 80s.
Today Steve Wonder is singing for Obama in IN.
<b>ID law could depress black turnout in Ind. </b> link
So felon and Chicago bus can't vote this time
Michelle Obama's whining..IMO this b**** thinks BO should be handed the presidency with fries and a medium coke. The "bar" it seems, keeps getting higher and higher for BO. Awww!!
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=OWI1Z...Zjg4Yjc3NmVjZTI
New preacher in Obama's church.
Listen to his Black liberation theology.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL4dHoOj5Fk&e
05-07-2008, 02:44 AM
(This post was last modified: 05-07-2008, 02:51 AM by Shambhu.)
CNN exit polls:
Was wright an important issue on the way you voted?
50-50 Yes-No
In both IN and NC.
Yes people voted HRC
No people voted BO
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HRC leads among people who said they were affected by "recession" (in IN)
05-07-2008, 09:18 AM
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IN - Hillary 5-9%
NC - Hillary 1-2% very close
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Results up till now: NC - Barack Obama - By about 14%
(Counties around Duke, UNC, research triangle etc - where most of Indians live - BO got 70 to75% of the votes )
Indiana - is still too close to call according to CNN etc - difference less than 2%,( Lake County still to be counted and diff is less than 20K)
(IU, ND, Purdue ... all places, Obama has done very well indeed)
Obama will be Dukakis re-run, students/liberals motivated. I am not sure how corrupt Michael Dukakis primary campaign was, only he did pull last moment stunt but Obama campaign is highly corrupt. I hope GOP is watching, will take action or will protect its own candidate.
I can only say, Indian elections are very clean and Indian polling officersâ very honest people. Indian Democracy is hands down very honest. Indian Election Commission do marvelous job.
We complain about Gundu-gardi etc. But that is not even 1 on scale of 100.
I salute Indian democratic process.
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