'Evil' Hindu Practices

[Shambhu]

Symbolically marrying a tree promotes untouchability!

This one is right there between:

Eating butterscotch icecream decreases the radar signature of Charlie class submarines

and

Switching phone companies gives your sister-in-law a cold

[Guest]

Shambhu, see more:
One 'rational, enlightened' psecular comments on the Express India's article about Aish's business, stating:
http://www.expressindia.com/messages.php?newsid=80762
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->its really bold step a social activist has taken against bachan Pariwara. Such acts <b>promoting social evils</b> should not be encouraged .It is not expected from family of such repute ,they should exhibit socially responsible behaviour .When today world is moving forward we are still engrossed with useless things.<b>Such actions shopuld not be allowed in modern &progressive India.</b> So Ash come forward and apologiose to India and say good bye to stupid things as we all have resposibility to free India from social evils and make our country proud .<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->The vocal psecular fascists are alive and well in India, dictating that Hindus <i>should not be allowed</i> to do Hindu things that don't hurt anyone (not the trees either) in 'modern and progressive India'.
When the majority is Hindu, even the intolerants - the pseculars and christians and islamics - enjoy equal rights (though at present, thanks to the anti-Hindu government, they get far more than merely equal rights). But if any of them were to become the majority, they will never give Hindus equal rights. Its because of their intolerant christoislamic mentality.

And marrying a tree and a vigraham is supposed to be a social evil or promoting such? No, being a christoislamic missionary or a maoist militant is a social evil and promotes evil. Marrying a tree is harmless, in this case it is apparently even beneficial.

[ramana]

Oh My gosh! On Nov 30 in the Indian Movies thread I said

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->While at it anyone watching the Rai- Bachan marriage moves? <b>They will have significant impact on the social mores</b>.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Looks like it hit the nail on the head. Folks need to know something. Amitabh Bachan is a product of an elite school Doon School. His parents were very famous and traditional people. Like most elite he had become DIE with his hobnobbing with secular politicians like Rajiv Gandhi and Amar Singh etc. His wife is an MP from Samajwadi Party.

In fact in 1997 he refused to light a lamp at a function saying that is a Hindu ritual and it was widely reported. In other words Amitabh Bachan is an icon of Modern India.

However his re-emergence from close to bankruptcy and near death have made him shed his Modern outlook and he returned to his traditionalist roots. At Tirupati temple he donated a very expensive jewel for the idol. In case of his son's marriage he is ensuring all the tradtions are being followed and I felt it would make an impact on social mores when an iconic figure comes back to the fold. Hence my remark. Nowadays even Amar Singh is attending Kumbh Mela and sees Durga Ma in Hema Malini's dance!

So the chatterati have decided to strike while they can, before the tide turns and sweeps them, with this nusiance case to draw attention to themselves.

My next prediction is the berating of evil South Indians who want to keep the land together and prevent rapprochment with TSP!

[Guest]

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Amitabh Bachan is a product of an elite school Doon School.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
He is a product of Nainital's Sherwood College and Kirori Mal College, Delhi University.

[Guest]

<!--QuoteBegin-ramana+Feb 12 2007, 10:14 PM-->QUOTE(ramana @ Feb 12 2007, 10:14 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->My next prediction is the berating of evil South Indians who want to keep the land together and prevent rapprochment with TSP!
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Other then punjab I dont think such gimmicks will fly. This dudette is just looking for quick notoriety. I forget the name of movie with Nicole Kidman - one where she arranges her boyfriend to shoot her husband to be on TV - reminds me of her.

[ramana]

Which dudette are you talking about?

As regards the other remark remember you heard it first from me.

Also could you change the title as it is jarring and smacks of self goal and by calling traditional practises by such aname it legitimizes the charge of the secularwadi.

[Guest]

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->A <b>lawyer called Shruti Singh</b> has filed a PIL (public interest litigation) in the Patna High Court against Ash, as her actions only promote untouchability, an existing social evil in the country<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Shruti Singh is the dudette.

The title is ok - it has 'evil' in scarequotes.

[Guest]

<!--QuoteBegin-rajesh_g+Feb 13 2007, 03:01 AM-->QUOTE(rajesh_g @ Feb 13 2007, 03:01 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-ramana+Feb 12 2007, 10:14 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ramana @ Feb 12 2007, 10:14 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->My next prediction is the berating of evil South Indians who want to keep the land together and prevent rapprochment with TSP!
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Other then punjab I dont think such gimmicks will fly. This dudette is just looking for quick notoriety. I forget the name of movie with Nicole Kidman - one where she arranges her boyfriend to shoot her husband to be on TV - reminds me of her.
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TO DIE FOR. That is the name of the movie. <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

[Guest]

Commie article tells the truth! Christists and Moh'dans richer but more archaic
See Rajeev's comment on TOI article which stated <i>Even in matter of dowry, <b>Christians lead the tally with 80%</b> families following it. <b>Muslims tag along at 76%</b>. Though less, Hindus too are yet to rid themselves of the social evil with 52% still under its grip.</i>

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Please note: Christists and Muslims are the main perpetuators of dowry -- not hindus who take dowry only 50% of the times! Was'nt dowry a custom in "those evil hindoos"??

Hypocrisy: Hallowed be thy name!
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[dhu]

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Ayodhya police gear up to stop ‘Jal Samadhi’

The Ayodhya police has woken up to curb the practice of Jal Samadhi during Ram Navami. The festival, which began on Sunday, will go on till April 14.

The age-old custom of Jal Samadhi has its roots in the Hindu mythology - Lord Ram was supposed to have immersed himself in river Saryu. Thereafter, the belief sprang that anyone who ends life in the river is granted a place in heaven.

Though there are no official figures of the actual number of deaths that have taken place, according to locals, this is a long-standing custom, which is followed even today.

Raj Kumar Tiwari, a local guide in Ayodhya, said: "Every year during Ramnavami Mela, some elderly men and women try to commit suicide by "Jal Samadhi". In most cases, they are people abandoned by their children and have no one to look after them."

The Ayodhya police have now drawn up a list of do's and dont’s. According to the Superintendent of Police, GN Khanna: "From Sunday, which marks the beginning of Ramnavami festival, we have deployed a heavy contingent of water police on all ghats, and this force will keep a 24-hour vigil. Besides, we have also cordoned off the danger zone of the river with nets and ropes. We have established high beam lights and searchlights on the riverside to keep a watch during the night."

The Senior Superintendent of Police (SSP), Faizabad, RKS Rathore, told The Indian Express: "Flood Company of Provincial Armed Constabulary has been deployed in all river areas of Ayodhya. Apart from this, all security personnel deployed in the city have also been directed to stay alert."<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

[Husky]

<!--QuoteBegin-dhu+Apr 7 2008, 11:40 AM-->QUOTE(dhu @ Apr 7 2008, 11:40 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Ayodhya police gear up to stop ‘Jal Samadhi’

The Ayodhya police has woken up to curb the practice of Jal Samadhi during Ram Navami. The festival, which began on Sunday, will go on till April 14.

The age-old custom of Jal Samadhi has its roots in the Hindu mythology - Lord Ram was supposed to have immersed himself in river Saryu. Thereafter, the belief sprang that anyone who ends life in the river is granted a place in heaven.
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->[right][snapback]80426[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->Another intance of how christobritish laws against Hindus committing suicide is still in effect. They can't bear that we'll attain Moksha and that they can't do anything about it. We must be alive for them to convert-or-kill us. At least the islamics couldn't stop Jauhar. But Sonia Goonda and her mini-goondas in the police force will try. Make no mistake, though presented as secular, this is not 'secular' action they're taking, as it's christo-mindset's psecular action against Hinduism.

Christians will write (forged) poetry and prose about how their non-existent martyrs died and embellish these pathetic Liars' Tales (do click there and read, I thought it was hilarious and shocking - is there ever an end to christolying?) And their missionary loonatics today will proudly repeat tales of meaningless martyrdom (anyone ever read their bragging stories/movies about nasty missionaries being cannibalised by tribe X, Y and Z? Compare with journalist N. Lewis's work "The Missionaries", who put the actual events across on who really did what to whom.)
Even now, many western missionaries still go out looking for dangerous-sounding missionary adventures/situations, with the idea that if they are 'tested' by their testing gawd with such a far-fetched situation, they may bwavely have died for the 'glory' of their non-existent chwist. They are infatuated with their 'oh woe is me, murdered-victim' stories where the 'innocent' missionary got done in by the 'evil inconvertibles'.

For all their morbid fascination of and premature pre-occupation with death, there's one thing they can't allow. By gawd, they can't bear Hindus going away peacefully of their own choice: suicide by the Heathen is BANNED. How dare the Hindoo die, peacefully, not by christoislamicommunist sword! Only the holy christo may kill him/her if they can't convert the person. How dare the Hindoos escape from jeebusjehovallah's non-existent hellish heaven and equally hellish-sounding hell by getting Moksha? Argues christoislamicommunist: "Die you scoundrel Hindoo, but not by your own choice and in your own way! That is UNETHICAL; only if christoislamicommunists murder you is it ethical."
Yeah, Hindus heard them the first time when they invaded our space as the christoBritish and christoPortuguese and made their lame christo laws.

[acharya]

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qi...30134251AAyJtHR

Is the Indian Culture racist?
I saw on the news that some indian's father hired a hitman to kill a pregant? I think? black women b.c...well she's black.
I was thinking on how in the hindi movies my mom watches they're all lightskinned indians, never brown at all. India is the number one buyer of skin lightening products, and it seems their whole culture is obessed with light skin.
anyway back to question, do you think the indian culture is racist?

Additional Details

5 hours ago
no not like that, I mean towards darker people like blacks, or fellow indians.
they seem to only embrace light skinned people.

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Topic: Indian Culture

Expert: Amit Shastri
Date: 9/5/2006
Subject: Racism?

Question
My ex-boyfriend dumped me a couple months ago and I am still confused about his reasons. He is Indian and I am biracial (Asian & White.) We dated for over two years. He just now is telling me that he can't date me anymore because he knows that he cannot be with me forever (since I am not Indian.) He claims that it is part of the Indian culture that Indian people only marry other Indian people. Is this really a part of Indian culture? If this is true, wouldn't this be considered racist?

Answer
Hello Claire,

Well, to be honest you are better off without a guy like your ex boyfriend. Not only is he racially prejudiced, but I suspect his feelings for you weren't genuine. I apologize for these sweeping conclusions, but there might be a grain of truth in these. Think about it.

In India marriage is a complex thing. It is an important institution whose clout has not diminished even in these modern times. There are several castes and sub castes in our country , and people generally tend to marry within their caste. Inter caste marriages are frowned upon. Please bear in mind that we are a modern country deeply rooted in tradition.

However, things are gradually changing in India. What surprises me is that Indians abroad are still clinging to these parochial tendencies.

It is perfectly acceptable for Indians to marry people from other races. Refusal to do this is, as you correctly say, racist. Indians are the most racist of all people in the whole wide world. Period.



http://en.allexperts.com/q/Indian-Cultur...Racism.htm

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http://sujaiblog.blogspot.com/2008/06/in...acism.html

[Guest]

Raksha Bandhan - A hindrance for development of Women society?

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Raksha Bandhan – A hindrance For Development Of Women Society?

By Pardeep

28 July, 2008
Countercurrents.org

Raksha Bandhan, Hindu festival (now infiltrated to all other religions) is coming near & I sat down to recall that two years back I had opposed openly (which actually I am doing from childhood at my home) this festival for many reasons. Two years back I had got many replies from friends those opposed me on this (except one reply from friend named Mukesh Kumar), i.e. they were in favor of celebrating this festival thinking this festival is more than a Hindu festival. So this time I’ll make some points more clear those might have been left last time.


First point there is no historical background of festival. (If some lady tied a thread on some other king’s wrist & he won, that’s just a fiction, not history!! Nor a simple thread can make someone to win). There is a chanting of holy mantra in Hinduism


Yena baddho Balee raajaa daanavendro mahaabalah |
Tena twaam anubadhnaami rakshe maa chala maa chala ||


It means, “I am tying a Raksha to you, similar to the one tied to Bali, the powerful king of the demons. Oh Raksha, be firm, do not waver.” How this simple, annually recurring act of tying the Rakhi on one’s wrist can evoke such strong and intense emotions in a person is indeed surprising & interesting that NASA should take some project over this!! Ohh... I think we should tie 5-6 Rakhis to the each & every army men at front so as they all become strong…!! (Or they be firm, don’t waver while raping innocent girls, women as happened in Kashmir & north eastern states)


This is common notion set (set by Brahmins) in the minds of people that relation of Brother-Sister is pure love, effective etc but it’s not true as more than 80% of world don’t celebrate this festival & they are strong enough than Indians (here consider under nutrition people also). On the one hand when Indian people don’t accept a girl child, (consider sex ratio here) women society faces discrimination in all respects but afterward thinking of festivals like Raksha Bandhan, Women’s Empowerment Day seems to be funny!!


When sister ties a thread on the wrist of brother & asks him to protect her in difficulties. Don’t all you think this it's showing or impelling that women society is not capable/eligible for protecting herself & she always needs a help. Isn’t it showing that the women society is inferior & can’t help own-self? (Here also consider what Manu Smrti says “Before marriage women should be under protection of father, after marriage under protection of husband, after death of husband she should be under protection of children,” i.e. she is never free & can’t do anything on her own will.) After few days of Raksha Bandhan here comes the “Bhaiya Dhuj” festival, on this day sister prays for long life of brother. But there is no such festival on the day when brother will pray for sister’s long life. Isn’t it a best way to keep women society down always & not to give many chances for growth?

If women society still needs her brothers to protect her from her husband or if she still looks at the face of brother to get help, this shows nothing but the lack of confidence & sense of inferiority complex caused by society only; henceforth I’ll say there is no meaning of women empowerment (forget about Dalit women) then, which many women organizations are claiming loudly!! Raksha Bandhan is itself a Bandhan (hindrance) for development of women society.


This festival is celebrated in many parts of India under different names; this is known as Narial Poornima or Coconut Full Moon in Mumbai’s famous beaches. Coconuts are thrown into the sea to propitiate (calm down) the Sea God, Varuna. This is the height of stupidity in Hinduism!!


Now rationally thinking is a special day needed to pour all the love, care, attachment? Do we need a special day like Rakhi for sister, mother’s day for mother, and father’s day for father or Valentine day for girlfriend-boyfrien d? (it shouldn’t be considered my opposition to “V-Day” is due to its western origin, likewise RSS, VHP people do without knowing what does western culture means; wearing jeans, coats, ties & opposing western culture seems funny, isn’t it?) Poor people spend at least 100’s of rupees on Rakhi’s, albeit of the fact that they can hardly afford to celebrate money wasting occasions like Diwali, Dushara, Rakhi but still these mental slaves are willing to celebrate and as a consequences be more credited with loads of money to be repaid back . These all are the beautiful carved tactics of businessmen & pundit-pujaris to earn money & to trap poor illiterate innocent people .all these businessman’s are not from the downtrodden communities, these are all Baniyas, Thakurs, Rajputs etc. All these people are highly educated but the fact is only downtrodden the untouchables are illiterate. On “Shivratri” give milk to pundit-pujaris, on “Diwali” give sweets to pundit-pujaris, on “Holi” give “bhang” to drink. All these are nothing but the tactics so as the business of temples keeps ongoing… Wake up friends!!!


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[Pandyan]

Pardeep sounds like a Sikh name. Typical anti-Hindu tactics. All anti-Hindu elements, (Sikhs included) coalescing as Communists and attacking Hindu customs. Maybe someone should remind this hair bear and his community to end their killing of unborn female babies. How's that for female empowerment?

[Guest]

Pandyan, some of the people who write at that site are born brahmins. But the biggest bigots and self loathing sickos. No point blaming any other communities, some people are like that onlee man.

This 'Pradeep' I can imagine must have been deprived of a normal childhood, imagine growing up without any birthday all because there are bhooka nanga bhikaris out. Or no Diwali ladoos or kites to fly on Sankranti etc etc..
My guess on his loathing for Rakhi: some girl he was hitting on ambushed him with a Rakhi <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' /><!--endemo-->

While this guy has his frozen bile for hindu rituals, I have absolutely no doubts that he's the type who'll be first to show up for some savory kebabs and firnis on Id day and stuffs his stockings on X'mas eve.

[shamu]

Pardeep could be a closet Xian. EJs are active in Punjab.

[Guest]

Word goes around that it could be one Pardeep S Attri. Putting 2 and 2 together from something I read, he might have been writing at dalistan.org. I can not confirm if the information is true.

[Guest]

<!--QuoteBegin-Viren+Jul 29 2008, 10:39 PM-->QUOTE(Viren @ Jul 29 2008, 10:39 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Pandyan, some of the people who write at that site are born brahmins.
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Isn't the leadership of Commies filled by born-brahmins. I don't think we should look at the community or caste - sikhs, brahmins, dalits etc. What is evident that people across communities have been brain-washed. So no point in saying a Sikh is doing this, or a commie-brahmin or frustrated dalit is spinning these articles.

Discrediting the author is not going to help us, discrediting their nonsense will help us.

[Husky]

Countercurrents is an openly communist site - many of the (in)famous Indian communist circle write there. The rest are at one of their other watering holes - like communalist-wombat or something.

Hindu and communist is mutually exclusive, when someone becomes a (christoislami)communist they cease to be a Hindu. I am presuming the same is true for Sikhs. <b>ADDED:</b> That is, that anyone who becomes a christoislamicommunist cannot be a Sikh.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Discrediting the author is not going to help us, discrediting their nonsense will help us.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Though I don't know anything about this Purdaheep, I find that in general, the two kinds of discrediting are the same thing: if an author subscribes to a scary ideology and has written ideologically-inspired nonsense before, it makes full sense for me to ignore every piece of dribble they write after that (until they dump their terrorist ideology completely). Otherwise it's like saying one has to evaluate each speech of OBL for profundity after the initial ones where he islamically threatened the unconverted. We already know inanity is going to flow. These kinds of people discredit themselves when they write/speak their usual nonsense, we merely have the right to put them on our ignore list once we recognise their tired old pattern/arguments/song. "Oh no, it's the same lame twat talking again, Mute."

[Guest]

Husky:
If an author writes 10 pieces, and 8 out of them are nonsense; one can conclude that the author does not have any sense. But we can not ignore that even in those 8 pieces, there might be one or two items that the author could have got it right.
What happens when we ignore is that those assertions remains unchallenged, and they become the talking points for the cherry-pickers.

There is danger in ignoring and retaliating, we ought to do them both judiciously. We can not just ignore everything or attempt to retaliate every point - a balance must be reached.

For example in the not-to-be-named place, a question was posed

"do you see any other religion devaluing and denigrating their
fellow human beings more than Hindu religion?"

As you can imagine, a lot was said before this, right from the favorite casteism, to pouring lead into the ears thingy that we so often hear, manu smriti yada yada.

We ought to step up against the smear campaign.