Attack in Mumbai -2

Husky · (This post was last modified: 12-07-2008, 10:30 AM by Husky.)

QUOTE(Mudy @ Dec 7 2008, 09:18 AM)Pakistan listens to India, to take action against LeT: Report[right][snapback]91514[/snapback][/right]Let me guess. All this means India will do nothing and will leave it to TSP to prevent itself from launching its terrorist attacks, leaving TSP's ISI and army to disband its own ISI and army. Because Pukestan and their bosses are so trustworthy.
And look at the absolutely terrible punishment awaiting them if they refuse: TSP will be branded Terrorist State of Pakistan. OMGs. (Although that *was* its name already.) And look how the proposed punishment is just so much worse than what the people attacked in Mumbai had to undergo. Is it fair to TSP I ask you? The punishment should fit the crime, shouldn't it? Poor terrorist Pukestan. Perhaps we should declare a moment of silence to mourn for the islamic jihadis of TSP and Indian islamiterrorists.

And it is also time for placing deep trust in US since it has so obviously immensely 'helped' in preparing India's 'befitting' response to the recent attacks (and also a deep thanks to them for their efforts in retaining Ford Foundation stooge MKN in the prime position of NSA in our country, simply wonderful achievement). Hindus should really be chirruping "US is our dear ally, we trust them blindlee", but I see that the song is not yet composed. While the melody can be the same as "Land of the Free/Home of the brave" - appropriate since we are a colonee again now (Nuke Steal) - I think the honour of penning the lyrics ought to go to Javed Mr Azmi Akthar (BTW, why is islamoterrorist Shabana wearing a Hindu sari in that pic <img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /> ).

news.in.msn.com/international/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1716658
QUOTEPakistan hosting terrorists, using them against India: EU
December 7, 2008

Saturday, December 06,2008

New Delhi: In a stinging indictment of Pakistan, the European Parliament has said there is âconfirmed evidenceâ about the country hosting several terrorist groups like the Lashkar-e-Taiba and âcriminal mastermindâ Dawood Ibrahim and using them as âan instrument of terrorismâ against India.

Against the backdrop of the Mumbai attacks, the Parliament of the 27-nation grouping asked Pakistan to take urgent action to âtransform its polityâ to prevent the âcontinuing calls for violent jihad against its neighbours and its partners.â

The Parliament, in a declaration adopted in Brussels yesterday, said, âDespite having a democratic government, there is confirmed evidence of Pakistan hosting several terrorist groups and using them as an instrument of terrorism, particularly against India.â

It further said, âDespite Pakistanâs claim of participating in the war against terror, it continues to host terrorist leaders of the Khalistani Movement, Hizb-uld Mujahideen, Lashkar-e-Taiba and criminal masterminds like Dawood Ibrahim, who live and operate freely.â The declaration - âTerrorists operating from the soil of Pakistanâ - reflects the recognition in the world that Pakistan continues to sponsor terrorism directed against India despite Islamabadâs continuous denials.

It also ânailsâ Pakistanâs lies that Dawood Ibrahim, whom the US has declared as âinternational terroristâ, is not in Pakistan.

The European Parliament has asked Pakistan to âstop all cross-border infiltrationâ and take immediate action to extradite to India âleaders of Khalistan (groups) and other terrorist groups who acknowledge their role in terrorist activities in India.â These observations come as a shot in the arm for India which has been asking Pakistan to hand over the chiefs of LeT, Hizb-ul Mujahideen and other terrorist groups besides Dawood but without any success.

Even after the Mumbai attacks, India has demanded that LeT chief Hafiz Mohd Saeed, Dawood and other 18 most wanted faces of terror be handed over to this country for their terror activities.
Pakistan, however, insists that there is no evidence about their involvement in any crimes in India.

The European Parliament said the madrassas in Pakistan âcontinue to provide cadres for terrorist groups, including Al Qaida,â and asked the government of the country to take immediate measures to reform the teaching imparted in such educational institutes.

The Declaration said Pakistanâs secret service ISI is âclosely aligned to Taliban and Al-Qaida and is protecting them from international peace forces.â

The Parliament asked Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari to monitor these matters personally.

â PTI

Husky · 12-07-2008, 11:49 AM

QUOTE(Husky @ Dec 7 2008, 10:22 AM)news.in.msn.com/international/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1716658
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTEPakistan hosting terrorists, using them against India: EU
December 7, 2008[right][snapback]91519[/snapback][/right]</div>Found via http://janamejayan.wordpress.com/2008/
which also has comments

12-07-2008, 12:36 PM

Hamid Gul talking about n-attack on India 1987 during Rajeev Gandhi.
Kel Tak- 30 November 2008 (Part 3/4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KHCRHGD0bY

We will smoke Bangalore IT - Hamid Gul
Kel Tak- 30 November 2008 (Part 4/4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA-9CC41_...re=related

Shambhu · (This post was last modified: 12-08-2008, 03:44 AM by Shambhu.)

In case you come across any suspicious activity, any suspicious movement or have any information to tell to the Anti-Terror Squad (ATS),please take a
note of the new ALL INDIA TOLL-FREE Terror Help-line "1090".

Your city's Police or Anti-Terror squad will take action as quickly as possible. Remember that this single number 1090 is valid all over India
This is a toll free number and can be dialed from mobile phones also. Moreover, the identity of the caller will be kept a secret.

Let us make each and every citizen of India aware about this facility.

Please forward this to as many people as possible.

*****Edit: THe site I got this off now says it was a prank email to them. So please disregard..*******

12-07-2008, 11:18 PM

Deepak Chopra's Delusion
by Babu Suseelan

12-07-2008, 11:46 PM

Always a pleasure when undercover operatives/informants are exposed thru press briefings.

QUOTE Facts about Mumbai attack suspects in India
Reuters - Police forged ahead on Sunday with their investigation into the Mumbai attacks which killed 171 people last week. Four men are in custody, only one of them from Pakistan, which is where India says the attack originated.

Here are some facts about the suspects and the roles they are accused of playing:

MOHAMED AJMAL KASAB: For India, the 21-year-old is the smoking gun proving a Pakistani hand in the attacks. Kasab is the only survivor of the 10 gunmen who attacked Mumbai sites last week, and is the prime source for Indian investigators. Captured wearing a t-shirt emblazoned with the Versace designer label outside the main train station in Mumbai, the baby-faced gunman, and an accomplice who was shot dead, had fired AK-47s inside and killed around 50 people. He told investigators he comes from Faridkot in Pakistan's Punjab region. Recruited by the Laskhar-e-Taiba (LeT) militant group, he was given a year of commando training in Pakistan by a former Pakistani military officer, he told interrogators. LeT is on U.S. and Indian terrorist lists, and Kasab told police the gunmen took orders by phone from two LeT operations chiefs. One, Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi, was designated a terrorist by the United States in May. India says the other, Yusuf Muzammil, is the head of LeT's anti-India operations. Police had identified their captive by other aliases including Azav Amir Kasav, but have officially identified him as Mohammed Ajmal Kasab. Kasab is the Urdu word for butcher, which police say was his father's profession. They say it is not clear whether it is his real name.

TAUSIF RAHMAN: Police arrested the clerk from Kolkata after tracing back to him the mobile phone cards used by the attackers. Rehman used a dead relative's identity documents to acquire the 22 mobile phone cards, which he later sold to Mukhtar Ahmed. He has been charged with conspiracy and forgery. He was arrested after Kasab and police say he helped them catch Ahmed, who was in New Delhi.

MUKHTAR AHMED: A native of Indian Kashmir, arrested on Friday. Soon after his arrest, Kashmir police said he had been their informant in an informal anti-militant network for years and had recently been hired formally as constable, a low-ranking job. They were investigating whether he may have been on undercover duty when he passed the mobile phone cards to the attackers. Police have not said how he did that. He had worked as a street vendor and three-wheel-taxi driver in Kolkata for a time. He started helping police after his brother was killed by Muslim militants in Kashmir, Kashmir police said.

FAIM ANSARI: The 26-year-old Mumbai native has been in jail in Uttar Pradesh since February, when he was arrested carrying maps with a number of Mumbai landmarks highlighted, several of which were attacked last week. Police say he told them he was trained by LeT after being recruited in Dubai, and almost certainly reconnoitred Mumbai during the planning of the assault. Sometime before February, he returned from Pakistan to India with the assumed name of Sahil Pawaskar, which he used to enrol in a computer school in Mumbai. He rented an apartment near the stock exchange building, which was marked on his maps and may have been a target. Uttar Pradesh police said Mumbai police returned him to them long ago and only now are coming to question him. The facts of his arrest only emerged last week, and were the first sign of Indian complicity.

12-08-2008, 05:43 AM

They are just foolish, everyone is racing to come in front of TV.

12-08-2008, 05:56 AM

QUOTENothing will be the same again
pioneer.com
Arun Nehru
We have a failure at all levels of governance and this only reflects the reality of the situation, both at the Centre and in the States. We all become wiser due to hindsight. The facts as they are unfolding are frightening and what we see is not a failure of intelligence but a failure of governance. I have some experience in this field having served as Internal Security Minister and later as a senior Cabinet Minister and a member of the Cabinet Committee on Political Affairs and I think it is necessary for all concerned to understand the system. Technically, this was not a failure of R&AW or Intelligence Bureau as enough intelligence inputs were provided by the two agencies before the 26/11 attacks in Mumbai took place.

This was a failure of the CCPA/CCS which is chaired by the Prime Minister and comprises senior Ministers, including the Minister for Foreign Affairs, the Defence and Home Ministers and also the National Security Adviser, who coordinates all external and internal intelligence. The Prime Minister and the NSA have access to all intelligence reports at initial stage and then through CCPA/CCS the others are consulted to formulate a coherent response to national security crisis like the one in Mumbai.

The Home Minister and the Maharashtra Chief Minister have been sacked. But clearly this was a decision-aking failure in the top echelons of the Government. If sacking people were the solution then everyone from top to bottom in the present Government should be sacked. But this will hardly solve anything. In theory we have all kinds of systems in place to tackle situations like Mumbai. But unfortunately in emergency situations none of them works.

The security forces, be they the Maharashtra Police with their antique weapons, the NSG commandos, the Army and the Navy or for that matter the security specialists and the hotel staff at the Taj Mahal Palace and the Oberoi- Trident, all worked miracles and saved many lives. In such situations time is very critical and every second counts and I am shocked that the NSG commandos took nine hours to reach their destination as no aircraft was ready!

The public anger at the lapses in security is palpable and it is time for the Union and State Governments to act on a war-footing and divert trained security personnel from VIP duties to protect public places (aircraft, trains, airports, stations, hotels, etc). It is shocking and sad that we suffer heavier casualties due to internal and external acts of terror more than any country apart from Iraq. Over the past three decades we have suffered over 1,00,000 casualties and every person killed is a VVIP to his family and friends. 

There are many genuine security requirements but security is often given for âpoliticalâ purposes and as a entitlement of rank and this must change. VVIPs and VIPs along with their family members will only invite shame and ridicule from the public and may well face a social boycott if things continue the way they are. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has announced many plans for strengthening and enlarging our security forces but does anyone know how long it takes to train 500 commandos? It is good to plan for the future but it will take over a year or more for these forces to be inducted into service.

But we have to deal with the situation that prevails now and there is no other option but to withdraw NSG commandos from VIP duties. This is urgent and should be done instantly. The NSG was never raised for protecting our politicians and therefore must revert to their original role as a crack commando unit.

We have seen many miracles in Mumbai. The heroism of the Mumbai Police personnel at the Chhattrapati Shivaji Terminus, who held their ground in spite of suffering fatalities and saved hundreds of lives by fighting the terrorists with obsolete .303 rifles and service revolvers, is truly praise-worthy. The course of events could have been very different if they had been better equipped.

US President-elect Barack Obama had stated his objectives on fighting terrorism very clearly during his election campaign and his observation that India has the right to defend its sovereignty has been echoed by present US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. Even Foreign Minister Pranab Mukherjee has, in a few firm words, delivered the right message to Pakistan.

The initial reaction from the latter has been one of bravado laced with hysteria and the guilt is clearly visible. The evidence regarding Pakistanâs involvement in the Mumbai massacre is irrefutable. The response of Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari will indicate the extent of his authority over the rouge elements within the Pakistani Army and the ISI. There is no questioning the latterâs links with the Taliban and the Al Qaeda. The terror camps in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir and elsewhere in Pakistan continue to mushroom and their existence is no secret.

No Government in India can exist any further on the goodwill of the international community. The US and their agencies are well aware that the billions of dollars in aid that is being provided to Pakistan to fight terrorism has been diverted and there is clear evidence that the Indian embassy in Kabul was bombed with ISI involvement.

We along with the global community cannot allow things to deteriorate any further and action is inevitable unless Pakistan takes some immediate corrective actions.

The six Assembly elections are over and initial reports suggest that the BJP stands to win in Delhi, Madhya Pradesh and Chhattisgarh. In Rajasthan it can swing in either direction. I have little information on Mizoram and in Jammu & Kashmir, but I feel that the National Conference will emerge as the single largest party in the latter.

It is a tribute to Indian democracy that despite the tragedy in Mumbai the democratic process was not interrupted and the resolve of the people was evident in the high polling figures in almost all the States.

We have the Lok Sabha election election coming up in April next year and this will be independent of the six Assembly elections just conducted. As a result all political parties and their leaders will have to regain the confidence of the voters and leadership skills and ability may well prevail over caste and communal considerations. Change is in the air and none of us will be the same after 26/11.

12-08-2008, 06:06 AM

QUOTEPak dismiss report on 48-hr deadline set by India to act
PTI | Islamabad
Pakistan today distanced itself from a report that said it had agreed to a 48-hour deadline set by India and the US to act against LeT, saying Islamabad do not have to respond to each and every "provocative statement or comment" in media.

"We do not have to respond to each and every provocative statement or comment in the media," Presidential spokesman Farhatullah Babar said when asked about the report in the Washington Post that Pakistan had agreed to a 48-hour deadline to act against the LeT and to arrest at least three Pakistanis who Indian authorities say are linked to the November 26 attacks.

Babar said the Pakistan government had already made its position very clear in the wake of the attacks in Mumbai by offering to cooperate with India in probing the incident.

President Asif Ali Zardari has offered to assist India in probing the incident and pledged to act against any Pakistani national found to be linked to the attacks.

Foreign Office spokesman Mohammad Sadiq could not be reached for comments.

The Post quoted an unnamed Pakistani official as saying that India had asked Pakistan to arrest and hand over LeT commander Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhwi and former Inter-Services Intelligence agency chief Lt Gen (retired) Hamid Gul in connection with the probe into the attacks that killed nearly 200 people.

~~Pandyan~~ · 12-08-2008, 06:27 AM

Bitch-slapped.

12-08-2008, 06:32 AM

QUOTE(Pandyan @ Dec 8 2008, 06:27 AM)Bitch-slapped.
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It was foolishness of Indian Govt, who are using media to divert attention from current Mumbai incidence by planting these type of stories.
First , Diaper Singh is without spine, he mumbles and noone can make out what he is saying. One should never throw time limit when you don't have spine to enforce it.

G.Subramaniam · 12-08-2008, 02:53 PM

Green Flags in muslim slums in Mumbai
during Mumbai terrorist attack?

12-08-2008, 09:48 PM

QUOTE(G.Subramaniam @ Dec 8 2008, 02:53 PM)Green Flags in muslim slums in Mumbai
during Mumbai terrorist attack?
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Yes, as reported by Sobha De and others.
New Delhi is filled by congress new vote bank Bangla Deshi illegals, they have started building mosques in every corner in New Delhi. Sheila Dixit's son-in-law who is Muslim is encouraging this effort ofcourse supported by Babus.

12-08-2008, 09:49 PM

By today afternoon, 48 hours will be over, lets see how Moron Singh and jokers of MEA will react.

ramana · 12-08-2008, 10:28 PM

X-posted...

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12-08-2008, 11:31 PM

Not sure when time will come, what will be first reaction, duck or run.

12-09-2008, 01:00 AM

QUOTE'Kasav wants to write letter to parents saying he was misled'
pioneer.com
PTI | Mumbai
The lone terrorist captured in the November 26-28 terror strikes here, Ajmal Amir Kasav, has told the police he wants to write a letter to his parents in Pakistan saying he was "misled" by the terrorist group, a senior police official said today.

"He (Ajmal) expressed his desire to write a letter to his parents. He wants to write the letter saying he was misled by the group," Joint Commissioner of Police (Crime) Rakesh Maria said.

"Ajmal told us this two days ago and we are examining it," he said. Ajmal, who allegedly hails from Pakistan's Punjab province, was among the group of ten terrorists who killed 183 people during the multiple attacks.

While Ajmal, who is reportedly in early twenties, was nabbed near Girgaum howpatty, the nine others were killed by security forces.

Police officials said this was Ajmal's first operation while some of the others had participated in terror attacks earlier.
This is will help Roys, Chatterjees, Testa to free nice guy Kasav, how remorse full he is, so sweet. They should start sending love letters to him. <!--emo& Big Grin

--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' />

I have started my countdown to free Kasav petition and Hallmark cards for Kasav.

12-09-2008, 01:03 AM

QUOTESome 'positive steps' from Pak, need for more cooperation: US
Pioneer.com
PTI | Washington
Pakistan has taken "some positive steps" since the Mumbai terror strikes, but should continue cooperation with India and the US to prevent possible "follow-on attacks", the White House said today.

"I think there is no doubt that Pakistan has taken some positive steps," spokeswoman Dana Perino said hours after the Pakistani security forces arrested alleged Mumbai terror mastermind and Lashker-e-Toiba commander Zakiur Rehman Lakhwi and eight other militants.

"It's critically important now, is that we continue to work together, the Indians, the Pakistanis, the United States and our allies to prevent follow-on attacks after the attacks in Mumbai," she said.

Asked whether the US had intelligence on more such strikes, Perino said: "I wouldn't say that." "It's always a concern once you have a terrorist attack that one of the things that you want to learn as quickly as possible is all the information you can get in order to prevent follow-on attacks," she said.

"We know that's how some of these terrorists plan," Perino added. 

Now Moron Singh will say, See I told you "Inaction is itself an action"
Now Moron SIngh had to do nothing, now Delhi had elected Congress, now see what will be next score?

12-09-2008, 02:12 AM

Will not hand over Dawood, Memon, Masood, says PakistanQUOTEPakistan today rejected India's demand to hand over three terrorists and criminals, including underworld don Dawood Ibrahim [Images], saying that action would be taken against individuals found involved in terrorist activities under Pakistani law.

Islamabad's [Images] response to a demarche from India seeking the handing over of the three came hours after security forces launched a crackdown on Lashker-e-Toiba, arresting suspected Mumbai attack mastermind Zakiur Rehman Lakhwi and eight other militants.


As expected, another slap on Moron Singh face, now tells us what Moron Singh and jokers MEA will do 48 hrs timeline had expired.

12-09-2008, 02:20 AM

Are we heading to being a failed State?

Yes, Anti-India Congress Party is destroying India.

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