Attack in Mumbai -2

12-23-2008, 04:21 AM

Mumbai police submit report on Karkare's deathQUOTEIn its report, the police states that neither of the four bullets found on Karkare's body were police bullets. The report further suggests that Karkare's death had nothing to do with the Malegaon blast probe, which he was heading prior to his death.

12-23-2008, 04:31 AM

Why the CIA does not want Dawood in Indian handsQUOTEKasab told his interrogators that his team had set out from Karachi, Pakistan, on a ship belonging to Dawood Ibrahim, the MV Alpha. They then hijacked an Indian fishing trawler, the Kuber, to pass through Indian territorial waters to elude the Navy and Coast Guard that were boarding and searching suspect ships.

Although the MV Alpha was subsequently found and seized by the Indian Navy, there have been few, if any, developments about this aspect of the investigation in press accounts, such as whether it has been confirmed or not that the ship was owned by Ibrahim.

Upon arriving off the coast near the city, they were received by inflatable rubber dinghies that had been arranged by an associate of Ibrahim's in Mumbai.
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At least two other Indians were also connected to the attacks, Mukhtar Ahmed and Tausef Rahman. They were arrested for their role in obtaining SIM cards used in the cell phones of the terrorists. Ahmed, according to Indian officials, had in fact been recruited by a special counter-insurgency police task force as an undercover operative. His exact role is still being investigated.

One of the SIM cards used was possibly purchased from New Jersey. Investigators are looking into this potential link to the US, as well.

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Investigative journalist Wayne Madsen similarly reported that according to intelligence sources, Ibrahim is a CIA asset, both as a veteran of the mujahedeen war and in a continuing connection with his casino and drug trade operations in Kathmandu, Nepal. A deal had been made earlier this year to have Pakistan hand Ibrahim over to India, but the CIA was fearful that this would lead to too many of its dirty secrets coming to light, including the criminal activities of high level personnel within the agency.

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Although designated as a major international terrorist by the US, media reports in India have characterised the US's past interest in seeing Ibrahim handed over as less than enthusiastic. Former Indian deputy prime minister L K Advani [Images] wrote in his memoir, My Country, My Life, that he made a great effort to get Pakistan to hand over Ibrahim, and met with then US secretary of state Colin Powell and then national security advisor Condoleezza Rice [Images] (now secretary of state) to pressure Pakistan to do so. But he was informed by Powell that Pakistan would hand over Ibrahim only "with some strings attached" and that then Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf [Images] would need more time before doing so.

12-24-2008, 09:24 AM

'The Mumbai attack is not an India-Pakistan issue'

12-24-2008, 09:33 PM

Stop talks with Pak, explore all options: BJP tells govt
QUOTE"The BJP calls for immediately stopping all the bilateral engagements with Pakistan including illusionary peace and trade talks. The illusion entertained by Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan Singh that Pakistan is also a victim of terror and there must be a joint mechanism of investigation has already caused enough damage to us," the resolution adopted by the office-bearers said <!--emo& Big Grin

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12-25-2008, 09:26 AM

Jamaat slams Chidambaram for denying probe in Karkare's deathQUOTEM M Khan, president of Jammat units of Andhra Pradesh and Orissa, said there was nothing wrong in Antulay asking for a probe into the police officers' 'suspicious' deaths.

12-26-2008, 07:41 AM

QUOTE What went wrong: The inside story
Shishir Gupta
The Intelligence failure in the run-up to the November 26 attacks and the crossed wires during the 60-hour siege: Shishir Gupta reconstructs

A day after P Chidambaram took over as the Union Home Minister, National Security Advisor M K Narayanan, Home Secretary Madhukar Gupta, Intelligence Bureau Director P C Haldar and Maharashtra Director General of Police A K Roy met in his chamber to discuss the Mumbai Terror attacks. Roy is said to have told them that the public was âextremely angryâ and that India should militarily retaliate against Pakistan in order to teach them a lesson.

Later that evening, the top bureaucrats, without the minister, assembled again in Gupta's room. With the NSA listening, Roy asked Haldar why the November 20 intelligence alert on a Lashkar-e-Toiba ship, given to the Coast Guard and Naval Headquarters, was not passed on to the Mumbai Police. Haldar bluntly replied that the Mumbai Police could do nothing on the high seas, clearly indicating that the Navy and the Coast Guard had failed to deliver.

The alerts sent by the IB in the past three years to the Mumbai Police and the action taken were again discussed threadbare at a meeting in Nagpur on December 19 between Roy, newly sworn in Maharashtra Chief Minister Ashok Chavan and State Home Minister Jayant Patil. There was concurrence on the need to have a high-level inquiry, which could be headed by R D Pradhan, who was home secretary under former prime minister Rajiv Gandhi, with V Balachandran, former special secretary of the Research and Analysis Wing, and Ajit Nimbalkar, former Maharashtra chief secretary, as members.

What is evident in the flurry of meetings, from New Delhi to Nagpur, is the growing realisation that on November 26 night, all systems that could have prevented a 26/11 failed.

INTELLIGENCE

Even on the morning of 26/11, a communication asking for activation of 10 SIM cards was picked up by the R&AW on the Bangladesh border. Intelligence agencies failed to decipher its significance. At 9.21 pm, the attack began

IB chief Haldar and his R&AW counterpart Ashok Chaturvedi failed to act on the top-secret alert (see the scanned document below) sent to then Maharashtra DG P S Pasricha on November 20, 2007. Haldar wrote to Pasricha that reliable inputs indicated that the LeT was planning a major terrorist strike and the action might involve âfidayeen attack, stand-off firing and use of grenadesâ. Even though the exact target had not been disclosed, he added, the operation could involve taking hostages. Asking the DG to sensitise his officers, Haldar promised to revert âas soon asâ more information was available. Even as Special Director, Multi-Agency Centre (MAC), Haldar had written to Pasricha on August 7, 2006, and given details of specific targets in Maharashtra.

However, Haldar never reverted back to Pasricha, despite the promise, till four days after the Marriot Hotel bombing in Islamabad. On September 20, 2008, Joint Director (MAC) IB Ashok Prasad alerted the Maharashtra DG (the scanned document on top) that the LeT was planning an attack in Mumbai and identified Taj Mahal Palace Hotel, Vallabbhai Patel Stadium, Sea Rock or Taj Land's End Hotel, Mumbai Juhu airfield and JW Marriot Hotel as likely targets.

The scene now shifted to Delhi and the US, through established intelligence channels, alerted R&AW Joint Secretary A K Dashmana in a November 18, 2008, meeting that an LeT ship was trying to infiltrate into Indian waters. It also gave latitudinal and longitudinal coordinates of the vessel. This input was passed on to the IB for dissemination to the respective agencies. Joint Director Prabhakar Alok forwarded the input to the Naval Headquarters and the Coast Guard for action.

While the Naval Headquarters never passed on the intelligence to its sword-arm, the Western Navy, the Coast Guard launched a search for the suspected LeT vessel on November 21 dawn. As the provided coordinates by the US Intelligence put the vessel 20-30 miles south of Karachi, the Coast Guard never found the ship. Its officers not only wrote a letter to IB Joint Director Alok but also called him up in a bid to get more intelligence. Alok promised to revert, but like his boss never did.

Even on the morning of 26/11, a communication asking for activation of 10 SIM cards was picked up by the R&AW on the Bangladesh border. Intelligence agencies failed to decipher its significance. At 9.21 pm, the attack began, with Ajmal Kasab and Ismail Khan opening fire at the CST Terminus. The Mumbai Police top brass was at the time making their way to Oberoi Trident to attend a wedding.

POLICE

A price was paid for the division of authority between the Mumbai Police Commissioner, who was absent from the command centre, and the DG, who is in-charge of the state but not the city

Almost around the same time, there was another high-level meeting on at another place in the city. The then Maharashtra Anti-Terrorism Squad Chief Hemant Karkare, DG Roy and the then state Home Minister R R Patil were discussing the sensitive Malegaon blast investigation. Around 9 pm, they called it a day. Karkare called up home to say he would be back in time for dinner, while Roy left to pick up his wife for the Trident wedding.

While they were on their way to the hotel, Roy got a call from a friend at Masala Kraft restaurant in the Taj Palace Hotel saying that there was firing outside. The DG immediately alerted DCP (Zone I) Vishwas Nagre Patil to reach the spot and take control as it could be gang warfare. The friend again called up, and this time the DG could hear the continuous burst of fire on the phone. Roy decided to give up the plan to go to the wedding and returned to the headquarters. Here all top state officials except that of the Mumbai Police were watching the action on TV in his room, along with Home Minister Patil.

Roy called up the Mumbai Police Commissionerâs control room, only to find that Joint Commissioner (Crime) Rakesh Maria handling the operations and Police Commissioner Hasan Gafoor were not there. By now, reports of firing were pouring in from CST Terminus, Cama Hospital, Taj Palace, Nariman House and Trident Hotel. With Gafoor parked inside his car outside the Trident, the command and control of Mumbai Police response had collapsed, with few ready to take orders from Maria and Roy not in charge of the city.

The city and the country paid heavily for the division of authority between the Mumbai Police Commissioner and the DG on that day as the two for the past decade have had a separate police communication network, budget and operational control. Even the annual confidential report of the Mumbai Police Commissioner is written by State Additional Chief Secretary and not by the State DG.

The decision to withdraw AK-47 assault rifles from the police inspectors, taken by Roy as Mumbai Police Commissioner three years ago, also proved disastrous. All that the Mumbai Police had in response to the LeT's artillery was assault fire and grenades of World War II vintage, .303 Lee Enfield rifles, .38 bore revolvers, 9 mm pistols and lathis.

Only Additional Commissioner Ashok Kamte had got an AK-47 issued from police armoury that day. When he came face to face with the terrorists along with encounter specialist Vijay Salaskar and Karkare, he fired twice at Kasab but missed narrowly. Not wearing the state-of-the-art bullet-proof headgear he had got from Kosovo, he was shot dead along with his two colleagues. It was around midnight that Maria and Roy realised the situation had got out of control. Maharashtra Chief Secretary Johny Joseph was requested to seek commandos and the NSG for help.

Given the cost of the breakdown of coordination that day, the state Government is now mulling putting the Mumbai Police Commissioner under the direct control of the state DG. This was given in-principle clearance at the meeting in Nagpur last week, but will become operational only after the three-member inquiry committee has submitted its report.

So, on 26/11, barring constable Tukaram Omble, who took Kasabâs five bullets in his chest to arrest him, and a handful of officers, the Mumbai Police was found woefully wanting. This set the stage for the Army, Naval Commandos (MARCOS) and the NSG to enter the theatre of operations.

ARMY, NAVY AND NSG

Marcos first refused to enter the hotels without state authorisation, then claimed to have killed two terrorists inside Taj within hours of starting operations. That information was totally false

The first to be called for commando help was Mumbai Sub-Area Commander Major General R K Hooda, who in turn informed the Maharashtra Government that he did not have any Army commandos with him. So what the public saw in the early hours were only Army footsoldiers on peripheral duties and not crack troops.

On November 26 midnight, Joseph called up Western Naval Commander J S Bedi for marine commandos as well as NSG Director J K Dutt in Delhi. It took another two hours for MARCOS to finally arrive. Although the Navy denies it, MARCOS refused to enter the Taj or Trident without written authorisation from the state Government. After the matter was sorted, two columns (seven each) of MARCOS entered the Taj and the Trident complexes. With the NSG team headed by a Brigadier still on its way, having had to arrange an IL-76 aircraft from Chandigarh to fly them and then Union Home Minister Shivraj Patil, the MARCOS made it officially known that they had killed two terrorists at the Taj complex between 4-4.30 am.

This information was totally false and it is still not clear whether the MARCOS engaged the enemy directly on that day. The NSG landed at 4.20 am on November 27 and took over the operation at 9 am as the MARCOS refused to function under the NSG Brigadier. In fact Army and Navy officers further complicated matters by going live on TV channels while the fire-fight was on. Southern Army Commander Noble Thamburaj talked about a dozen terrorists being present in the Taj to the media even though he had no direct knowledge of the operations. General Hooda, the Sub-Area Commander, played to the gallery while the MARCOS projected itself as Rambo.

Neither did NSA Narayanan, who was out at a party that fateful day, nor the then chief minister took matters in their control. Shivraj Patil was in Mumbai only for a few hours during which he announced that terrorists had run away. A month after the Mumbai massacre, during which IB operational chief D K Sinha and R&AW Joint Secretary J S Khanna were in constant touch, a number of questions remain unanswered:

â¢ Identity of the local contacts of the terrorists who helped the LeT identify the targets, including Nariman House? Past three year records of all the Taj and Trident Hotel employees have revealed nothing.

â¢ Is there an al-Qaeda link to the Lashkar attack as for the first time Jews were slaughtered?

â¢ Identity and location of the controller talking to the two Taj Palace terrorists? The controller virtually gave away his location when the terrorist asked him, âWahan kitne baaje hain?â The VOIP call was traced to West Virginia and then lost.

â¢ Were there 15 terrorists in total with five following up in another boat? The hunt is still on. The track back device in the used GPS was set for K T Bandar near Karachi.

â¢ Who is the owner of ship Al Hussaini?

12-26-2008, 11:46 PM

GIVE PEACE A CHANCEâ¦by Narayanan Komerath
QUOTETo appear in âStrategic Research Reviewâ Vol. 3,No.1, 2009
Abstract
The fact that global terrorism emanates from Pakistan is well established. This article uses the visible evidence of sustained, pervasive complicity and control by state entities to debunk the notion that ânon-state actorsâ outside the reach of the Pakistani state control global terrorism.
The role of the Pakistani state is to protect and profit from the terrorist enterprise, rather than to confront it. Foreign aid has gone mostly to benefit the personal interests of the Army leadership and to strengthen the state in shielding terrorist enterprise against external action.
The cognitive dissonance in the reports of Pakistan Army battle deaths at the Afghan frontier is easily resolved when one considers the Punjabi-dominated Pakistan government and Armyâs history and policy of repressing the rights and aspirations of Sindh, Balochistan, Pakhtoonistan and Balwaristan. The concentricity of âAl Qaedaâ and the Pakistani state is clear. To eradicate terrorism and bring about peace, the Islamic Republic of Pakistan must be broken into at least five independent provinces, too intent on protecting themselves from each other to be exporting terrorism. The removal of the central government would also remove the
protection that the global terrorist enterprise enjoys under Pakistani sovereignty. Options short of total war are explored to achieve the objective of bringing about lasting peace.
Read more...
GIVE PEACE A CHANCEâ¦

12-27-2008, 12:45 AM

QUOTE(ramana @ Dec 20 2008, 01:29 AM)Meanwhile

Support for Antualy builds in Pakistan

Headline is misleading. What it means is TSP is taking Anutaly' line and claiming he is right.
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Folks, no one should be surprised by rants of A R Antulay - one time CM of Maharashtra who had to quit because (then) Bombay Court convicted him of extortion.

Back in 2006..during the 7/11 train bombings, this nitwit speculated that Hindus were posing as Muslims and carrying out attacks. Read..
Pak hand, says NSA; Arjun, Antulay have a different take
QUOTEnd Minority Affairs Minister A R Antulay cited reports that a mystery blast in Maharashtraâs Nanded in April was orchestrated by Hindus posing as Muslims.
This senile fool speaks from him behind since mouth's jammed with foot.

12-27-2008, 03:23 AM

interview of an ex MARCO on teh commando operations
It's not ten people as they are saying, some people have got away

Shambhu · 12-27-2008, 05:25 AM

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Re 447:

Kudos to N3 for yet another article. This one is more user-friendly, containing a lot of BRFisms which will keep the reader engaged. All this strategery stuff is too dry for the average yindoo, hence the need to be very liberal with the use of spices!! Keeps them engaged.

I hope someone at NSA actually reads this article...the US will be far wiser and richer if they read N3...

Por favor:
Can anyone make this article into a cut-pastable link?
There are many blogs whose audience needs to see this article.

dhu · 12-27-2008, 08:30 AM

Afzal and Ajmal: 1947 revisited 
Sandhya Jain
23 Dec 2008

Afzal Guru of India, convicted for his role in the attack on Parliament on December 13, 2001, and Ajmal Amir Kasab of Pakistan, seen striking terror at Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminal on November 26, 2008, are the symbols of twenty-first century jihad against India.

Besides a common commitment to jihad, their separate acts of aggression against an India perceived as Hindu, establish the reality of a universal Ummah determined to subjugate all to Islam. This is why Pakistan and Bangladesh â given a share of Hindu ancestral territory after bloody violence in the mid-twentieth century â have failed to evolve as viable States and have repeatedly returned to unleash mayhem on a non-threatening mother country, despite persistent failures to win overt or covert wars.

The Afzal-Ajmal cases prove Partition was no solution to the British Raj-instigated communal formula, and that the spectre of 1947 will remain with us until we assert our identity as a vibrant Hindu nation that can shrivel its oppressors. A viable Indian riposte will therefore have to await the rise of a political leadership that recognizes âsecularismâ as a dirty word, and does not kowtow to the Western masterminds of our current woes.

No words can adequately condemn the UPAâs shameless outsourcing of the task of chastising Islamabad to Washington and London, or BJPâs acquiescence of this surrender of sovereignty. The revelation of Dr. Amar Singhâs generosity towards the Clinton Foundation â a sharp contrast to the dud cheque he gave late Inspector M.C. Sharmaâs family â completes the picture of a supine India where secular and minority-communal forces readily collaborate to hurt Hindu sensibilities.

Poignant instances of this partnership today centre round some of the most flagrant instances of jihad in recent times, viz., the Parliament attack, the Batla House encounter, the Mumbai massacre; a thread of perversity pervades all.

Secularists were quick to recover from the shock of the attack on Parliament, and mounted a puissant defence of those accused in the conspiracy. The judicial process that followed saw the release of Delhi University lecturer S.A.R. Geelani (hailed by the human rights jholawallahs), but conferred death penalty upon Afzal Guru. This was loudly reviled by Hindu-baiters, who lamented the âinadequate defenceâ given to the convict, and even published a tome with articles by leading legal luminaries, faulting the entire judicial proceeding.

This eminently un-sellable book featured prominently in a current affairs programme on television. I made just one point â when leading jurists were convinced of his innocence, there was no bar on any of them coming forward to defend the accused to their satisfaction. They cannot sit on the fence and later castigate the legal process.

Now, seven years later, Afzal remains unrepentant, and the Indian State cannot find the courage to hang him due to votebank considerations. Grief-stricken families of police constables who sacrificed their lives to defend Parliament have returned the gold medals to the government in anger; this scandalous regime has kept the medals, and refused to hang the jihadi.

Hindus, enraged after Mumbai, are clamouring for justice. Citizen activists have collected over 1200 signatures on a petition to the President regarding public sentiment that terrorists be shown no mercy; to date Rashtrapati Bhavan has not granted us an appointment. The President was quick to meet a Christian delegation after the murder of Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati in Kandhamal, Orissa, earlier this year, but never tried to meet his orphaned bhaktas. The Hindu Jagruti Sabha had previously submitted 18000 signatures to then President APJ Abdul Kalam regarding Afzal Guru.

Meanwhile, after bomb blasts in Varanasi, Faizabad and Lucknow two years ago, public opinion asserted itself in the form of local bar associations refusing to defend the accused in these trials. This compelled Muslim lawyers to come forward to defend those accused of jihad, and face the attendant public odium.

A piquant situation currently prevails over the defence of Ajmal Kasab, Mumbaiâs lone surviving terrorist. The most distinguished jurists, with status in international human rights circles, will not like to defend him personally because corporate clients may melt away due to a desperately-brewing sense of victimhood among the rich and affluent. Some of these advocates have loftily condemned local bar associations for roughing up accused in emotionally sensitive cases.

Kasab killed three of Mumbaiâs top police officers before he was captured; he was engaged in an act of war against the Indian nation. While there can be no dispute that he must have an advocate to represent him, an inflamed public opinion is determined to ensure that no non-Muslim lawyer defends him. Many are of the view that the Mumbai commando attack should be treated as a war crime against India, because all terrorists were Pakistani nationals, trained, armed, and sent across by the ubiquitous ISI. In other words, the State of Pakistan used non-State actors to wage aggression against unarmed civilians in India.

Jihad is a foreign ideology; its objective is world dominion. Islam made impressive strides in the early centuries of its birth. But in the modern period, most Muslim nations lack the ability to defend themselves, and modern jihad has been a tool whereby the West controls both Muslim and non-Muslim societies. The ISIâs Western patrons are well-known; its local cells in India are part of the same axis that once partitioned the country. Only an overtly conscious Hindu Rashtra can tackle this menace. This applies equally to the issue of conversions, which remain a foreign policy objective of the Christian West.

Minority Affairs minister A.R. Antulayâs questioning the martyrdom of ATS police officers Hemant Karkare, Ashok Kamte and Vijay Salaskar continues a trend begun in October, when even the death of Inspector M.C. Sharma in the Batla House encounter in Delhiâs Jamia Nagar did not deter West-looking viragos from making wild allegations against the deceased. Immediately the Jamia Millia Vice Chancellor espoused the cause of students accused of involvement in the encounter; many community and secular voices supported the âfake encounterâ theory. Jamia thus marked the emergence of a dangerous trend among a section of Indiaâs articulate Muslim elite â to deny violence; to confront the law; and to affront Hindu sentiment. The atmosphere is reminiscent of 1947, only this time Hindus will not heed the peddlers of non-action.

12-30-2008, 02:18 AM

QUOTEPromoting the wrong ideas
pioneer.com
Shridhar Pant
Apropos Mr N Jamal Ansariâs article, âFor Mumbai blame BJPâ (December 18), the writer was at his best in justifying that Hindutva forces are fanning Islamism by obfuscating facts.

With the confession of Ajmal Amir Kasab, the lone terrorist caught alive in the 26/11 attacks, that he had shot down Maharashtra ATS chief Hemant Karkare and his colleagues, and with the Pakistani media and former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif confirming that Kasab belongs to Faridkot in Pakistan, one cannot simply put a veil on the facts and cast redundant doubts on these evidences.

Interestingly, the day Mr Ansariâs article was published, Minority Affairs Minister AR Antulay expressed his twisted version of the Mumbai attacks in Parliament. Later in the day, several Muslim organisations lent support to Mr Antulayâs ridiculous conspiracy.

With regard to Mr Ansariâs view that Hindus and Zionists are behind the Mumbai attacks, something that the Pakistani media has also been dishing out, this only further strengthens the belief that there is an international Islamic conspiracy to perpetuate terrorism in India. Also, with respect to the point about the formation of a Hindu rashtra I am at a loss to understand if there can be an Islamic rashtra in Pakistan and Bangladesh, why should Mr Ansari feel offended by a Hindu rashtra? It is well known all over the world that Islam may mean peace within the religion but hostility towards non-believers. India is secular because of its Hindu majority that embraces people from other faiths.

Will Mr Ansari answer why ethnic cleaning was carried out in Pakistan at time of partition and is in process now in Bangladesh? If the Islamist organisations are weak and negligible then how come a small 40 hectare piece of land was denied to the Sri Amarnath Shrine Board while over Rs 500 crore are spent on subsidising the Haj pilgrimage? How come Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said that minorities should have the first claim on the countryâs resources?

In fact, it is the Hindu organisations that are weak and, therefore, neglected. It is now gradually being realised that the Hindu community is still in deep slumber. They need to be reminded of what Albert Einstein said, âthe world (in present context read India) is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of the people who donât do anything about it.â

Let Hindus read and re-read their Vedas, the Ramayan, the Mahabharat and stand up united to resist injustice and restore dharma.

12-30-2008, 02:32 AM

30 days past, our vipers are slowly crawling out of the nest..I present to you one such snippet..
http://www. tehelka.com/story_main40.asp?filename=Ne131208death_of.asp
Tarun Tejpal of Tehelka says ....
QUOTELet's be clear we are not in a crisis because the Taj Hotel was gutted. We are in a crisis because six years after 2,000 Muslims were slaughtered in Gujarat there is still no sign of justice. 
Someone mind responding to this crapola?

12-30-2008, 03:33 AM

Deepak Chopra came out and blamed USA's Iraq policy.
A Roy came out with Kashmir policy
Moron Singh came out with Pakistan is also victim of terrorism

List of loons are growing, these loons were waiting for riots after Mumbai attack now they have to wait for another one.

12-30-2008, 11:30 PM

Michael Ramirez of www.ibdeditorials.com is Pulitzer Prizer winner for this year. His work on Mumbai.
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12-31-2008, 02:46 AM

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Forget CIA, a lot of Indian politicians would be exposed if Dawood's apprehended. The list is countless ... one from 2005 we have Govinda hugging Dawood a little before '93, same Govinda who was given ticket by Congress and currently serving MP from a Mumbai constituency.

G.Subramaniam · 12-31-2008, 09:46 AM

Attn Ramana
Shiv wanted this info

Muslims gloat over mumbai attack

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/195176.php

November 28, 2008
American Muslims Justify, Equivocate Mumbai Massacre [UPDATED, Bumped]

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Samir Khan emerges from his parents' house in Charlotte, NC

Our nemesis Samir Khan [aka, "inshallahshaheed"] over at the "Ignored Puzzle Pieces of Knowledge" is talking about the Mumbai massacre over at this blog. I don't think long time readers will be shocked that he offers no words of condemnation. Only equivocation and justification.

The crux of his argument is the same used by Salafist extremists of his ilk in their routine justification of al Qaeda and Taliban attacks on civilians: okay, so, you people kill innocent Muslims all the time. Classic equivocation.

Not content with equivocating, he then goes on to say why the Mumbai attacks might be justified. First, he goes to the general argument that violence is never justified:

We wouldnât take the words of Maulana Mahmood ul-Hasan Qasmi very seriously since he made a blunder when he said, âIslam never teaches anyoneâs to take somebodyâs life.â He was upset at the idea of Deccan Mujahideen retaliating for his honor.

He then goes on to justify this particular massacre as legitimate if it brings the world's attention to the plight of Muslims in India:

All in all, it could just be that the Indian Muslims need that massive international media recognition so that their demands are met and at the same time, make the Indian population realize that the Hindu Massacres upon the Muslims is an ongoing threat and it needs to be solved now. Sure, the situation may appear extreme in isolation, but when put in context, one can acknowledge the history of this conflict and how the Muslims of India have always been the âunderdogs.â

Classy.

Joseph Cohen greets Mahmoud Ahmadinejad at Columbia

Next, let's see what Jewish convert to Islam Joseph Cohen [aka, Youssef al-Khattab] has to say about the attack. Unlike his friend Samir Khan, who in the post above claims the attacks are the result of Indian policies, Cohen claims the attacks are the result of American policies.

You'll notice that Cohen says that he doesn't condone the Mumbai attacks, but then also goes out of his way to say the neither does he denounce it.

Pretty bad, eh? Just to clarify his non-condemnation, this exchange takes place on Cohen's YouTube page:

Politically Slow: You're NOT denouncing it?

RevolutionMuslimCom: Nope

But not as bad as the comments other Muslims have made on his blog. For instance "Salafiyyah" from Nigeria who it seems thinks Cohen is not strong enough in his support for the Indian massacre. Or Omar who proclaims:

Allahu akbar...May Allah aid and guide the mujahideen and help every other muslim male support the ummah of Muhammad(saws)

Or Bilal who claims to be from Britain and identifies himself with the followers of Omar Bakri Muhammad with the website islam4uk.com:

It was pleasantly refreshing to hear they targeted Chabad Lubavitch. Allah will destroy His enemies wherever they are in the world. You will know when the Muslims have ignited in an insurrection when there is blood on the streets of London and New York like there is blood on the streets of Fallujah (and Mumbai). There is nowhere they can hide from the wrath of Allah and His soldiers.

Or Abu Aisha who, like Ayman al-Zawahiri, seems to be a Malcolm X fan:

The crimes of the kuffaar are coming back to haunt them. its chicken come home to roose

Islam: Religion of Peace.

Is it really so hard just to say: we unequivocally condemn the murders in Mumbai?

UPDATE: Via Stable Hand, just when you thought it couldn't get worse, from Joseph Cohen's forum: Happy Thanksgiving: USA Blood Pudding Stuffing, dead jews in Bombay today, God Willing

It is good to Give Thanks that jews may very well die as brother Bilal pointed out as the jewish from Crown Heights Brooklyn had set up occupation in that city as well and is now under threat of death in this lovely lovely and happy episode of a Thanksgivings Day adventure. Williamsburg and Crown Heights in New York are so well guarded even by their own Chasid jew police besides New York's police, and what with the islands and limited on and off access and the bridges you almost cannot imagine that a God Damned jew can be killed there. I'm glad they came to Bomb bay to hopefully, God Willing, be killed in it.

Oh, God........

01-01-2009, 01:01 AM

Force divider
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The mandatory back-patting and self-congratulations over, the Mumbai Police top brass is now faced with uncomfortable questions about the quality of their leadership.

The announcement was made after the Shiv Sena and the BJP demanded removal of Roy and Gafoor, along with Home Secretary Chitkala Zutshi. The three have been squarely blamed for the alleged lapses. Despite the pointed fingers, the Mumbai Police is a divided house. One would expect that this crisis would have come as a wake-up call for the police force and their political masters, but the intense infighting and one-upmanship indicates that any kind of change is a long way off.
Be it Gafoorâs refusal to cooperate with the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) team, which was left hanging for three days, or keeping the Anti-Terror Squad (ATS) out of investigations, or even leaking their âheroic footageâ during operations, the Mumbai Police has left no stone unturned in bungling. All attempts to reach the commissioner and the DG failed as they refused to take calls or respond to faxes.

Senior officers attribute the leadership crisis to the politicisation of the force and the rift between the DG and the commissioner, which intensified during Royâs tenure as commissioner of Mumbai. This battle is now beginning to impact the investigations with the ATS probing only the CST attacks.
Since its inception in July 2004, all terror attacks in the state, except 26/11, have been investigated by this special squad. However, since the squad comes under the DG, itâs getting a raw deal. Says former DGP of Maharashtra Arvind Inamdar, âIdeally, the investigations should have been given to the ATS. However, since 2000, the Mumbai commissioner of Police started reporting to the home minister and home secretary instead of the DG. This goes against the concept of one force and one leader.â
Says Nitin Gadkari, BJP general secretary, Maharashtra: âThe ruling parties want to appoint their officers as district SPs to get their work done. The state DGP A.N. Roy works under the influence of Sharad Pawar, so he never worked with the chief minister.â
It didnât help matters that while Mumbai was battling terrorists, the appointment of the DG was being contested in the Bombay High Court.
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The division between the office of Mumbai police chief and the DG became apparent when the action shifted to Maharashtra Police headquarters, as Roy coordinated with the chief secretary and the Home Ministry for deployment of the National Security Guard, which effectively led to a division in the force.
It is the failure of leadership that is more disconcerting. As the crisis peaked after the first couple of hours, Gafoor camped outside the Trident-Oberoi in his Honda City, along with Additional Commissioner (Armed Police) Raja E. Pawar and Additional Commissioner (Protection and Security) Vinay M. Kargaonkar. Several senior officers were not even consulted. Captain Anurag Grover, formerly with the 21 PARA (Special Forces) and an eyewitness to the operations at the Trident, says: âThere was lack of coordination between agencies that were placed inside and outside the hotel. The heads of the multiple agencies didnât even have their telephone numbers or radio frequencies.â
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The biggest criticism that is being levelled against the police commissioner is that he sat with his coterie outside the Trident, waiting for the armed forces to arrive, refusing to engage with senior IPS officers.

01-01-2009, 01:06 AM

Maharashtra police commandos were ordered to kill Kasab
QUOTEMaharashtra Police commandos were ordered to eliminate Mohammad Ajmal Amir Iman aka Kasab soon after he was captured at Girgaum Chowpatty on November 26, sources revealed.
However, the commandos could not do so because by the time the order came, they had almost reached the hospital where Kasab was to be treated for his wounds, sources said.
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01-01-2009, 12:31 PM

Why they want to kill Kasab?
Only reason I see, Pawar, Patil and Manmohan SIngh trying to protect Pakistan and link Hindus.

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